recorded and we should be getting started here. All right, let's get started. Are we all ready? Yep. >> Call a Shaky City Council meeting for Tuesday, July 15th, 2025 to order. If the clerk could please take the role. >> Council member Delaney >> here. >> Council member Whitney >> here. >> Council member Contras here. >> Council member Lara >> here. >> Mayor Layman >> here. Item number three, if you want to join us for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge >> algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Item number four, approval of the agenda. Any changes to the agenda? >> No. >> Sir, >> I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. >> Second. >> Seconded by councelor Contrarus. Discussion on the motion. Discussion seeing none. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number five, consent agenda. I'll just point out that some of this says 5A, 5B. The packet says 6A, 6B, but they're all the same. So, any changes to the consent >> from staff, sir? >> Council wishes of council. Councelor Contrarus, >> I'll make a motion to um approve the consent agenda. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second that. >> Motion and second, Mr. Reynolds, will you read the consent, please? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members of council, these are the consent agenda items for Tuesday, July 15th of 2025. 5A authorizes a final acceptance and payment for the West End lift station and force main project. 5B is a resignation of the fire chief. 5C authorizes disposal of surplus forfeited property. 5D approves the wetland replacement plan for the rich richland court development improvements. 5e declares one vehicle as surplus property and authorizes its proper disposal. 5F is a donation of fire safety materials. 5G is an audit engagement letter with ABDO for the years ending December 31st of 2025 and 2026. 5H authorizes public works to exceed their staffing levels. 5 authorizes final acceptance and payment for the CSH78 pedestrian underpass improvements at Zumbro Avenue. 5J approves a special event permit and a temporary liquor license for the Shockby Chamber of Commerce. 5K approves the City Council meeting minutes for June 17th of 2025. 5L is a Centerpoint Energy's community safety grant award. 5M is a donation of fitness equipment. 5N approves a an updated Rhythm on the Rail special event permit and temporary liquor license for the Shockby Chamber. and 50 is resolution R2025-079 changing the city council regular meeting dates on August 5th and November 5th. >> Thank you, Mr. Reynolds. We do have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion? Discussion. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number six, public comment. If you are here for an item that is not on the council agenda and would like to address the city council, now would be the time to do that. If you please step up to the microphone if you're here for an item not on our agenda. Seeing none, item seven, business removed from the consent. There was none. General business 8A, ordinance amending city code section 111.02 related to fence construction. Mr. Kursky, when you're ready, sir. 2. >> Good evening, mayor and council. So, we're bringing back this uh text amendment of city code section 111-.02. So, the city staff is requesting section 111.02 be repealed and replaced to accommodate the multiple changes. This item was originally he heard by the city council on May 6. Since that meeting, the recommended changes were incorporated and reviewed by the city attorney. So, the proposed ordinance clarifies the application requirements, including written notorized permission from an adjacent property owner or owners if a fence is proposed to be constructed on the property line or physically connecting. Removes the requirement for a permit to repair a fence, creates the def definition for opaque, clarifies prohibited materials, and then requires chain link fences to have a top rail. Uh, also clarifies a temporary plastic snow fence up to four feet in height can be placed out um from October 1st to April 1st. Explains maximum height of four feet for fences in the structure setback in the Shorland overlay district and no fence allowed below the 100-year high water level of a lake, stream, river, wetland, wetland buffer, or storm water basin without permission from the city engineer or his design design. Reduces the appeal period from 30 to 15 days. removes language requiring review by the city's HPAC. Changes are proposed to provide clear direction on construction and placement requirements and the ordinance would be effect upon approval and publication and staff's recommending adopting the ordinance. >> Thank you, Mr. Kerski. Questions of staff? >> Mr. Lara, >> Mr. Kursky, where is this going to be published? I believe I'll defer to the clerk, but I believe it's our new publishing. >> Uh, it'll be the new parade times. >> Yep. >> Are we still allowed to put it on our website and such? >> Uh, yes. So, it it gets put on the website 10 days prior and then upon um approval it goes to the new Prague Times for publishing. >> Thank you. >> Our ordinance book. Right. Qu >> other questions of staff. wishes of councel, Mr. Whiting. >> No, it looks like um we've addressed and I'm trying to find it exactly the verbiage of on the property line that I was looking at. Not sure which bullet. Um >> do you have the version that was on the table tonight? The red line version. >> That's better. I'll find it that way. >> Um I'll help you. Let's >> I know we uh going through it. I I we got I did get that online um and looked at it was a lot uh easier than the one in the packet. But >> item two on the red line version. >> Yeah. And I guess the only question is that I ran into this, you know, I was running uh putting my own fence and I didn't have any satellite communications to make sure that I was right up to that property line because I was going to utilize that space. But that property line is also a one inch oneinch post. Now, unless the city is going to be giving back that onein strip around everybody's property and giving back the taxes on it, I'm suggesting that that's kind of our uh chalking the field for our staff saying you got an inch if it's within that inch because those those pipes in the old town are an inch wide. What is the property line? You know, but I was that close. Well, but even I would say even with the property line, almost all property lines, including my own, mine is a five and five. There's five on this side of the property line and five on a neighbor's side of the property line. That is the easement, drainage easement in my case. >> But this fence line, you can go right up to the property line. >> Right. >> So, I'm just shocking the field for staff. Is that where is that line? Is it right touching it or is it over it? Is it in the middle of that one inch line? Um, just uh just wanted to put that comment out there before I uh >> Can we treat it like a stop sign? >> Recommended inconvenience. >> Which side of that one inch? >> Just a recommended inconvenience. >> Uh, so I'll make a motion to before we move on to too much discussion. Uh, make a motion to adopt ordinance 02025 TAC 010 amending title 11 of the city code repealing the and replacing section 111.02 related to fence construction and placement regulations appeal period and publication by summary. >> Second. Is >> there a second to the motion? Second. >> Mr. Delaney seconds the motion. Discussion on the motion. Discussion. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. Motion passes. All right. I got to find my other one here. This a little bit mixed up tonight. Okay. Item 8B, ordinance amending city code section 130.04 related to livestock and poultry. Minister Kirsty, >> mayor and councel. So this is amendment um title 13 chapter 130 section 130.04 other animals. So staff was asked to review the regulations related to animals specifically livestock and poultry regarding the two types and quantities allowed to be kept in residential zoning districts and also seasonal sales stands. The proposed ordinance creates a new definition of livestock, clarifies up to five henchments are allowed in SRR, PRD, R1A, R1B, R1C, and R2 zoning districts. And there's a maximum coupe size and maximum run size. Modifies the hen chicken definition to poultry to allow the following ducks, geese, guinea fowl, quail, and feeasants in addition to hen chickens in the RR zoning district. And restricts the number of poultry and and coupe run structures in RR based on lot size. You can see here if you're 0.1 to 0.99, you can have a maximum of five. If you have an acre more, you can have 12. clarifies that seasonal sales stands for the sale of honey or related bee products shall comply with section 151.07 and they're allowed in seasonal sales stands. Planning commission received the ordinance as anformational item at their June 5th meeting. Public hearing is not required because the ordinance is not part of the zoning. >> Thank you, Mr. Kursky. Uh for clarification and transparency, we had on the table the ordinance and this is item 8B. In your packet is the original under 11B. Okay. Any questions of staff? Questions for staff? Mr. Lara, >> I'll make a motion >> to adopt ordinance um 02025-016 amending title uh what is that? Title 8 of the city code section >> um >> 13 total >> 13 don't know my room numerals uh 1304 to modify the definition of hens chickens to poultry lives define livestock clarify the number of poultry allowed in residential zoning districts >> I'll second it >> motion by Mr. Lara seconded by councelor Contrarus Mr. reporting. >> There was someone uh and I believe was from our community that had some issues with our ordinance. Did they have a chance to review it and uh uh make all their corrections? Uh were they all heard? >> So, mayor and councel that individual on the planning commission so it was heard and >> okay, >> some comments we can't make everybody happy if I I put this in perspective today. So, we're about 20,000 acres or 31.1 square miles. There's 4.8 87 acres of rural residential 4.87 square miles of rural residential in the city about half of which in the are in the SMSC's hands but that's still a lot of mileage. So you have to look at we have a lot of rural residential which is large homes on big lots that don't really care about some of this and then we do have some other large lots where they do agriculture. So we're trying to reach a happy medium here. I understand that's >> I think the issue was seasonal sales >> and mayor and council that's addressed in the next >> ordinance. Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions of staff on this topic? >> N good. >> We have a motion and a second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. 8 C. Ordinance amending city code section 151.002 002 and 151007 K related to agricultural uses and seasonal sales stands. Mr. Kursky, mayor and council, as you mentioned, this is an ordinance regarding um definitions in the table and agriculture uses in the rural residential zoning district seasonal sales stands. So staff was asked to review the regulations surrounding agricultural uses and seasonal sale sales stands in the rural residential RR zoning district. Existing ordinance language allows agricultural uses and seasonal sale stands as a permitted use in the agricultural preservation district only. Seasonal sale stands when in the principal use of property is agricultural is allowed with the cup in the rural residential zoning district. Seasonal stands are allowed in most of the commercial zoning districts. So this creates new definitions for agricultural use for crops, agricultural use for livestock and agricultural use for livestock and poultry. So this will be the new table. So it will be an accessory use in rural residential um sewer rural residential and the other um agricultural uses are allowed in all of the residential districts except for R3, R4 and PO >> provided they have a primary structure on the property. >> Mayor, that's correct. And that's true with all these. You have to have a primary structure if you're running seasonal sales in those zones. And then in um we're allowing they're permitted already in agricultural and so we're going to allow them as an accessory use um seasonal sales stands in the rural residential and seasonal sales stands when the principal use of the property is agricultural is allowed in egg and also in rural residential. Um let's see what else it's also amend amends table 151.007K 007K table of uses for commercial industrial districts to clarify between farm produced farm produced and non-farm produced items. So, seasonal sales, um, you know, we have in most of our commercial districts now, you'll see them. The hardware store that used to be over behind city hall had seasonal sales. Cub has seasonal sales. So, we've now um clarified that and it's an accessory use in all the commercial districts. >> We can still buy our sweet corn and >> stuff in the parking lots, what they're selling. >> Awesome. Okay. So planning commission held a public hearing on June 5th recommended approval with suggestion to consider adding language to clarify that vegetables and nursery plants are allowed and to consider a different naming convention for the originally proposed agriculture use no livestock which staff has done. Okay. Questions for staff, questions, wishes of councel, councelor contrars. >> Motion to adopt ordinance um 020 uh 25-017 amending city code section 151.002 and151.007k. >> Second. >> Second. >> He seconds the motion. Discussion on the motion. Mr. Whiting? Nope. No discussion today. >> Going to ask if this addresses the original concerns of the res. >> I think it I think it did specifically is about the sales of the uh honey. >> Okay. >> Support. >> All right. Anything else? Any discussion on the motion? >> All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item 8 D, also known as 11D, presentation. County county highway 17 expansion project presentation by Scott County, Mr. Jordan. Uh, good evening, Mr. Mayor and council members. Uh this is a follow-up to the presentation that I provided to this council at the end of 2024 on the Scott County Highway 17 expansion project. Uh since that last presentation, uh Scott County and the city of Shakabe and Prior Lake have worked really closely together to uh continue to refine the design of the corridor. Uh in addition, there was a public openhouse that was held earlier this spring meeting with area residents. I know a lot of members from the council attended that uh open house as well. So tonight, Adam Jessen, uh, Scott County, uh, assistant highway engineer, will be here to present the project, give you a little bit more details and where we're at today. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Thank you. >> All right. Good evening, mayor and council members. Uh, thank you. Thank you for having me here. Uh, my name is Adam Jessen. I'm the assistant county engineer for Scott County. Uh our county engineer Tony Winnicki unfortunately uh was is laid up in on the east coast uh with the storms going on over there. He was out there for a wedding and um is hopefully in route right now uh back here to Minnesota. So uh I'm here and we also have uh Nate Thomas, our project manager, as well as Justin Sebins who's our consultant uh traffic engineer here to help. So um I'll jump into it. uh our agenda here for what I'll go through. Um talk a little bit about uh the background information on Scott Countyy's transportation network. Um how highway 17 fits within that um and as well as kind of our principal arterial systems specifically within our transportation network. Um building off of that, we there was a corridor study uh done on 17 and 13 as it continues to the south um back in 2009. So I'll talk a little bit about that uh that quarter study and how it laid the groundwork for this project. Um and then I will uh get into the uh project itself that we're proposing uh including the discussion at the open house and the refinements that have made to the layout um as a result of that. Uh and then I will finish up talking about the uh schedule for the project as well as the cost sharing elements. >> Would would you prefer that we hold our comments until you're done or can we ask comments as you go? >> I'm okay either way. Um, I think there's I do have quite a few slides, so there's a good chance that I may cover it in the presentation, but I will. >> The problem is it's always hard to go back for us because we get multiple questions that might stack up. So, let's just ask as we go, council. Okay. >> Yep. >> Good. >> That works for me. >> Okay. So, starting out, uh, this is, uh, Scott Countyy's functional classification map from our 2040 comprehensive plan. Uh, the project area is circled in purple there, kind of in the, um, the center of, uh, the northern part of the county. uh and the red lines in particular I'll draw your attention to are the uh principal arterials at the time of the study. Uh since that time the uh western segment of 42 um has uh been designated as a principal arterial as well as highway 17 from 42 to the north up to 169. Um and 21 has been removed as a principal arterial. So, a couple changes from this time uh to today and uh specifically noting that uh 17 north of this project area is now a principal arterial. Um going to the next slide. So, this is also from our comprehensive plan. This is uh our proposed future uh principal arterial uh or sorry, our uh future functional class uh which includes our principal arterials again shown in red. Um you can see uh 17 going through the uh 17 and 13 going through the center of the county north to south. Um highway 8 is as well is a is a new one there. East east east and west across the county. And then trunk highway 19 on the south. >> Do excuse me. Do do we have a pointer that you can use? >> Let's see. Is it the screen button? Oh yeah. Oh, doesn't work on the TV. It doesn't look >> How do we get it onto the monitor? Is there a mouse that I can >> you can use that you can see if I do this? >> There you go. Thank you. >> See that? Okay. >> Proceed. >> So, um, thank you, mayor. So, this, uh, purple circle again is our project area. Um, Highway 17 is running north and south through the center of the county. Um, designated as a future principal arterial. Um, and just to talk a little bit about 17 in particular and why that is, uh, designated as a principal arterial in the future. Um it's pretty unique um in the county running continuously from from north to south. Um it also uh has a lot of connections to Highway 169, obviously St. Francis Hospital, Regional Parks, uh a lot of entertainment venues. Uh and really the the spacing that you can just see from this visual, um it makes a lot of sense. We've got obviously 35 on the east side and 169 on the west side and this kind of go goes right through the middle there. And just talk a little bit about principal arterials too. you know, they do include 35 and 169 which are kind of that expressway freeway type of roadway facility. Um, but you know, it also includes something like 42 and and 17 which maybe are a step down from that. But still the priority is on uh mobility and safety on those corridors and really get making um efficient trips through the through the county. Um, and the last thing I'll point out on 17 in terms of kind of its unique position to serve as a principal arterial is it it actually touches every one of the other uh principal terriers other than 35 um on this map. So, you know, from 169 to 78 um 42 8 and and 19 it's it uh touches all of those which is a a key component of a principal arterial. All right. So uh having that understanding of of this as a principal arterial uh roadway we the quarter study was uh adopted in 2009 providing that long-term vision to to convert this roadway to a principal arterial. Um it had various segments of projects uh to to achieve that vision. Um and it addressed the needs for projects through 2030 and then also some recommendations to preserve right ofway uh into the future beyond that. Uh one other thing that was mentioned in the 2009 study uh was a supporting roadway network which is uh very critical for principal arterial. Um because the that facility is very focused on mobility and and moving cars along there. You there's a need to have uh roadways adjoining that to uh provide that local connectivity to destinations. And so there's obviously a lot of these yellow lines are thoughts of supporting roadway networks that could happen uh in that 2009 study. And um we'll have more on this later in the presentation. I guess the one thing I'll mention is let me go back to that. Jennifer Lane is one road um on the west side of 17 um north of 42. In 2015 there was a a county construction project on 17 to upgrade that segment. Um and uh Jennifer Lane was constructed at that time um which did provide a good local connection and helped mitigate the loss of access on that as part of that project. Um I kind of cover this on the map so I'll skip over this briefly but again this is just why 17 is is important as a principal arterial. Um and just to mention that that corridor study uh obviously uh was produced in in uh coordination with our partners along the corridor um Shakipi, Prior Lake, uh the townships and and Midnut as well. So our project area uh falls within segment B of the corridor study. Um the quarter study recommended uh a four-lane facility with intersection improvements um grade separation at at 14 and 82. um the ADTS which is the daily uh daily daily traffic um that's anticipated uh in the study in 2030 is much higher than what is what we're seeing out there today. So that's um where I'll talk later about how we're trying to rightsize this project um based on the development that has has actually occurred to this to this point and is expected in the future. um it does identify some some criteria for access management um and trying to get it to that future uh principal arterial. Uh so a little more background uh moving on from the corridor study we have started to implement these projects over the course of the last um 15 years. Um so there in particular the red, yellow and blue projects were uh completed in a span of 5 years um from 2011 to 2015 and those did uh upgrade 17 to a four-lane uh road and uh manage the accesses along that as well. Um yes. So jumping into that um that middle segment of those three projects I just identified was this 2015 project. Um this is the one that I mentioned that had Jennifer Lane constructed as part of it. Um this figure is really just to show prior to the project. The red dots are access points on to 17. And then the figure on the on the left, sorry, the figure on the right is uh post project the access points on to 17. So reducing that from 21 to four and that's again to to really meet the needs of a principal arterial which are mobility and and safety and um mitigating that with the uh local road construction of Jennifer Lane to um still have local connectivity. Um and this really has resulted in a safe and highly functioning um principal arterial in in this area. Again this this section has been converted officially to a principal arterial and um functions very well today. all the folks that live to the south of here um can can use this roadway to get um to a lot of destinations to the north and we're trying to achieve those same goals here on this next phase to the south. All right, so that's my preamble. This brings us to our pro the project um that we're uh planned for 2027. Um and our goal with that project is to design a safe uh mobility corridor consistent with the corridor study and uh achieving that principal arterial um criteria. Um, as I mentioned, we do want to rightsize this project. The traffic volumes in this segment of the of the uh roadway of the corridor are not as high as was forecasted in the corridor study. And that has been a process that we've gone through with the PMT as Alex mentioned. um you know the city of Shaki city of Parl Lake the Shakpi Medwalkan Sue are all on that um project management team and we've worked together to uh starting with a visioning process and and to layout development and through um the public process as well um get to where we are today with the layout and uh what that project entails is is a four-lane divi divided highway. Uh it does include improvements at uh highway 82 and highway 14. um those are not grade separated as proposed with this project. Um however, as I'll show in a future slide, there's opportunity to convert those to to some grade separation in the future that's that's accommodated with this design. Um the project also includes some access management in terms of uh existing driveways along 17 in this area and then also with the secondary intersections at Eaglewood, Norton, and Marsha. Um the project has a very large uh trail component to it, which is I think very exciting. Um I I'll have a slide on that later on. Um and it does include some local road connections similar to that Jennifer Lane um project to help mitigate um some of the access management and uh continue to have that local roadway network um to support the principal arterial. And again, this is planned for 2027 construction. So this is the layout. I understand it's probably a little hard to see at this scale and we do have some some slides that zoom in a bit on that. So, I think I will skip ahead to the next one, which is just zooming in on the northern portion of the of the project. So, um this is Highway 17, uh running across the left to right of the screen. Uh County Road 42 is um just off the screen to the right there. That's the start of those ramps for that great separated intersection. Um and then as we go south from 42, we have Marshall Lane and then Norton um Avenue there and then ultimately the roundabout at Highway 14. Um so some things just to talk to what what the layout looked like prior to the open house and then what we have presented to you here today. Um the primary feedback that we heard from from the uh the folks who live in this area was around um impacts to their access to 17. And um what was proposed at that meeting had a uh right in right out at Norton Avenue. So they could uh as it implies there that they could exit um to the north and they could um come in uh from the south. And at Marsha, we had proposed a 3/4 intersection which uh allows for the left in, the right in, and the right out. It does not allow for the left out to go northbound on 17. Uh as a result of the feedback at the meeting, um we are proposing to can change that Norton intersection to a 3/4 intersection to match what's at Marsha there. And um so it does allow that left in um alleviates some concerns with travel times to Norton but also with emergency response to to Norton. Um and it also really u mitigates some of the concerns that we heard from Marsha in terms of outofdirection travel. Um as previously proposed for them to go northbound on 17 they needed to take take a right onto 17, go down to the roundabout, do a U-turn and head north. Um, in this case, they uh can just make that U-turn at Norton. So, that cuts that um a little more than in half um in terms of that out of direction travel um down to less than a quarter mile. >> Okay, let's hold up here and and see if there's questions on this portion. If you could watch walk me through Norton. >> Mhm. >> They can't come out and make a left. Correct. >> Uh correct. >> So, if they want to go south, they're going to go north to where to turn around. >> M Mr. Mayor, thank you for the question. and they would um turn right onto 17 and then they would uh do a U-turn at Marsha. Um >> could you use your point pointer? >> I can. Sorry, I'm forgetting to do that. Use the mouse. >> Your mouse. Yeah. >> Um here we go. Okay. So, if you're on Nordon and you want to go southbound, you would take a right onto 17 and then do a Uturn here at Marsha to to head south. >> Okay. And if you wanted to if you were coming from the north going south, you could make a left into Norton. >> Correct. And if you're coming from the south, you got a right in. And if you're coming out of Norton, you got a right out. >> Correct. >> Okay. Now, let's go over the Marshia Drive and explain that one to us. >> Yep. So, pretty similar there for Marshia. If you're leaving your house and you're heading south, you can just take a right turn and and head south on 17. Uh if you're coming home um from from the north, uh you can just take a right into Marsha Lane. If you're coming home from the south on 17, you can take that left turn into Marshall Lane. If you're coming from your house and you're heading to the north, you would need to take a right turn on to 17 and do a U-turn at Norton to head north. That's a little less than a/4 mile uh out of direction travel for that. Now, the other thing that's proposed with this layout, and I might just skip a couple slides ahead so we can talk about that since it relates, is we're proposing this local road connection. So to get the bearings um this road here is the very northern portion of that Marsha neighborhood uh the wine and acres neighborhood. Um this is 29th Avenue which is currently a right in off of off of 17 into that neighborhood. So, we're proposing to construct a roadway from the uh the end of that Marsha neighborhood, the north end, up to Blue Heron Trail, which connects into Wooduck Trail and to Jennifer Lane that was constructed in the previous segment. And so, it would create a continuous road network um from Marsha up to 7 County Road 78. >> Um this does a couple of things. Um it's pretty similar travel times for for them from today to uh from what they do today to take a left out at Marsha to to take this route. Um it's slightly longer for them to go down to Norton and do the U-turn than it is to to go this way depending on where you live within that neighborhood. Of course, you know, there's there's kind of a dividing line probably on what's most convenient for folks. But it does provide them alternatives and multiple points of entry and exit uh from the neighborhood, which I think is is just a good practice. Um, and it also, um, provides them, there's an opportunity there. If you, say you have a young driver or or something like that, you you could take these back roads all the way up to 78, you just have to take a right turn onto 78 and then you're at the signal of 17 and 78 and then you're able to take that left turn onto 17 at a signal. Um, which I think is, you know, would be a safe route to go as well. So there it it's not that one route is necessarily the right way. It probably depends on where you live in the neighborhood, but the idea is to give them multiple options. Um, and so that is definitely I think very relevant to the to the Marshia access. Sorry, I got a little little derailed from your question. >> That's that's good questions up to this point. >> And what's the timeline on that local street construction and where's the funding source? >> Yep. Our intent is to construct that with the project. It's possible that we have multiple letings just because we are getting started a little later with that one. But um to speak to the overall project, I think we're probably looking at a a one and a half construction seasons, maybe two construction seasons to do this full project. So somewhere within that timeline, we would want to construct that uh that local road. U we're planning to fund that uh local road 100% with our um our sales tax, the the Scott County sales tax. So um ultimately it would become a city street and so there would be, you know, it would be owned by the city. there be maintenance for the city on the road long term, but the initial construction cost and the right ofway costs the county would provide as part of our sales tax. >> Okay, >> other questions on this northern segment of the project? The the last thing I'll mention is um the layout that was proposed at the open house um had uh necked the 17 down to a two-lane section through through this uh area. And that's again us trying to work through that right sizing of the project. Um the volumes may not be quite there for the fourlane in this area, but this is our time. We have the the dollars now and the the the project now to get it done. All that's not the primary reason I would say for for this change to four lanes. Um there's there's a couple one is that the roundabouts uh we're constructing these uh bypass lanes which I can get into more on a on a future slide, but they they're multi-lane roundabouts. They um have two lanes coming out of them in each direction. So we were already building four lanes there. We'd have to neck it down to two lanes through this kind of Norton Marsha area and then it has to go back out to two lanes in each direction at 42 to get your movements at those ramps. So it was kind of a small section we were left with that we were doing two lanes and it's you know maybe we should just knock that out. And kind of the final tipping point on that was um you know utilizing these U-turn maneuvers, having that extra lane there um for extra room for overturning um and uh acceleration and that kind of thing was was also an added benefit of of having the uh fourlane section through this segment. So that was a change since the open house. >> Questions? >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. Um the this is the southern segment of the project. So, I'm just going to go back and real quick. This is Highway 14 and Highway 17. Oop, wrong way. Now, I'm really going to confuse everyone. Highway 14 and 17. Uh, and now this is that same 14 and 17 intersection. So, we're This is the next segment to the south. Um, the local road in this area is Eaglewood Lane. This is their oneway in and out um from uh onto 17. It's proposed as a right and right out. That's the same as we had it at the open house. Uh we did not receive strong uh push back on that at the open house. It it is pretty reasonable as they're situated between the two roundabouts. They um so just to walk through those same kind of movements. If they're leaving their house and they're heading south, they can take a right uh out freely. If they are heading to the north, they take a right, do a U-turn at the roundabout, and head north. Um and then similarly, when they're coming home, um if they're coming home from the north, they can just take a right into the neighborhood. If they're coming home from the south, they would go up to the roundabout at 14, do a U-turn, and and go in >> and that distance >> about a quarter mile and either way. >> Okay. >> And I will show um another local road that we're proposing to construct with this project. Um what we're proposing to construct this time is the blue, and I understand this is probably a little hard to see, but um this blue dashed line. Um this is Highway 14. This is our uh Highway 17 here in the bottom right corner. That Eaglewood intersection is is kind of right here just off the page. And so we're proposing a new intersection on on 14 um that would come down here and feed into this is Bridge Crossing, which is what Eaglewood turns into within the neighborhood. And it provide a a back exit for um for that neighborhood to get out to the west on 14 if they want. Um, it also does kind of align with with long-term um development here to the south in in Prior Lake. Um, this goes down to 160th Street. Again, we're not proposing to build this green segment right now. We're just proposing to build the blue. But, um, once this green is constructed, that gets you down to 160th. And you could see another phase down to Highway 12. And there's a lot of development going on down there with Parker Lake. Um, and so having this kind of uh trying to trying to establish this footprint for a local road network. um to the west of 17 uh is kind of the intent with this one, but it does serve the added benefit of a of another back way out for the the folks in Eaglewood. >> Would you be able to make a left on 14 coming out of there? >> Yes, you would. >> Okay. And who owns the property on both sides of that road? >> Um so this uh segment here is uh owned by the Shakib Medwalkan and Sue. Um, so that's that portion. And then um this neighbor it's Clement Hagen is the last name of this property owner. So we are starting to reach out with all of these um proposed local road connections. We are in the process of reaching out to those uh property owners that would be affected by this. Um we have not made contact with all of them at this time. So I'll I'll be transparent about that. Um and I'll talk uh with with this one in particular as well. There there are two property owners um uh Julie Welch and then uh Jeff Bolt uh in here and then the county does own this uh property here which you know again going back to that corridor study this is one of the lines that was was drawn on that map and and we did purchase this property kind of with this in mind uh a number of years ago. So, two property is owners on this one. Um, and on this one, there's uh mainly one. There is I probably some some impact to to this smaller property here as well. >> And you're building that with sales tax dollars as well. >> Correct. >> Right away. Midwalk going to donate right away. >> That's the hope. We're working with them on it. They're definitely um part of the conversation. Other questions? >> Continue. Um, so I think that's kind of the layout. I'll bump quick back to the full view. Um, just to show south of 82. Um, you know, the project kind of tapers down to to 160th. That's that's kind of our tie-in point. Those are those storage sheds that the SMC has constructed if you're familiar with that as a landmark. Um, so that's the kind of the extent of the project at this time. Again, the quarter study discusses this going further to the south. Um we are looking at um putting a roundabout at Highway 17 and Highway 12 to the to the south of here in the same timing as this project that's in in Prior Lake and Township. >> Sorry, >> 12 or 13. >> Uh 12. Uh high yeah highway 17 and highway 12. And then Mindot has proposed a project or they're in the process of scoping a project at Highway 17, Highway 13, Highway 282, kind of that that funky intersection there. um they're proposing it sounds like likely a roundabout in the 2029 2030 time frame. So um that those are kind of some upcoming projects to the south of here. All right, pass through these exhibits. So, just to you've probably heard this from Alex um maybe at his pre previous presentation, but just to touch on it quickly with the roundabout design at these um at the two intersections. Um what we uh are proposing is on the left to be constructed now. It's a roundabout with a bypass lane. Um taking advantage of the three-leg orientation of these intersections uh affords us the opportunity to have a bypass lane in in one direction at each of these um at each of the intersections. So at here at 82 that is in the southbound direction um that uh if you you if you're going straight on 17 you can just bypass the roundabout entirely. Otherwise you go on the interior lane and you make your maneuver as as you would. Um so that that's that. And then on the right is shown kind of the future vision and how we could achieve that um hopefully with with minimal cost in in the future. Um and that we could build one bridge. Um, so we've already got the southbound uh bypass constructed. Now we need to bypass that northbound so that they can stay out of the intersection. And so we would build a bridge to take the northbound movement up and over the roundabout so that they can continue um you know without having to navigate an intersection. And uh if you're trying to turn onto 82, you would go into the roundabout still as kind of almost like an interchange ramp junction. Um, so we think this is a good way to rightsize the project, uh, build what's needed now, but also kind of set us up for the future if and when, uh, the traffic out there dictates that. And this is just the same exhibit at um, 14. Um, and again here, what we're constructing today has this northbound bypass lane, so you can entirely bypass the intersection going northbound um, or you can enter the roundabout if you're trying to interact with Highway 14. And similarly, we would build a bridge in the future to grade separate the southbound movement. Sorry. Okay. I think, you know, I got one slide on this, but I think this is a really important topic as well with the project is the the trails that are going to be constructed. Um, I'm going to focus on the figure on the right, which is uh what's being constructed with the project. The dark blue lines or or black they look like on the screen um are the trails being constructed with the project. Um it's uh along 82 um both sides of 17 um north of 82. Uh we are constructing this gap uh from 17 and then along the south side of 42 42 um which is a which is a current gap in the system. Um and we are proposing a uh pedestrian uh underpass at uh crossing 17 at 14. Um we have the county has a project programmed uh within the next five years to construct uh the next phase of our Marryiam Junction Trail which is uh you know under construction right now but uh the continuence of that would be along uh highway 14 uh all the way from 169 over here to 17. Um, and so kind of with this project and that project in tandem, um, you can go all the way from on down 82, you can go to Murphy Hanhan and then you can take that trail all the way over to downtown Carver via the Mariam Junction Trail and the Big Woods Trail. So, um, I think this is a big improvement for the folks that live in the immediate area just in terms of having trails outside of their house on 17 compared to being on the shoulder. These are going to be quite a ways away from the roadway. They'll be pretty pretty nice facilities to bike on. They'll um for the most part be 10 foot trails within the project area as the regional trails will be. Um so good improvement to the immediate area but also fills some pretty critical gaps for us in our larger regional trail network. Uh project timeline uh we're kind of here at the uh the crux of preliminary design and final design. That's what we would like to um you know get approval from from the city is that you're kind of on board with our concept and that we we should uh move ahead with final design uh and rightaway acquisition. Uh we're looking to construct this beginning in 2027. As I mentioned, I expect that construction to continue into 2028. Um so that's the timeline. And then my final slide here is just on the cost participation. So this is a county transportation sales tax funded project. Um the county funding responsibilities will be all of the county highway um construction as well as the right of way. Um that is different than our typical cost participation policy because it is a sales tax. So the city would typically have a share of that. Um but with it being a sales tax project that is 100% county. Uh we will also as I mentioned um fund the uh local road connections and the rightway needed for those. Um and then kind of jump into the city bucket here with the trails. Um per the cost participation policy, uh the city would typically be responsible for 50% of the trails. Um uh those would be normally an 8ft trail. So a lot of the trails in this project are 10 ft since they're part of a regional trail system. So um essentially that comes down to a 60/40 split on the trails is what we're proposing for this project. The county would pay 60% and the the uh city would pay 40%. Um, you're paying for four feet of that trail. We're paying for >> Is that the actual trail cost or land acquisition? Also, >> trail cost. >> Okay. >> Yep. Not not right away. Um, we're we're uh back up to the county bucket. Um, the design and construction admin will be uh county responsibility. The uh I should have mentioned while I was on the trails, the pedestrian tunnel, we have that one pedestrian tunnel proposed uh on uh crossing 17 at 14. So that would fall into that uh 40 6040 cost share. Similarly with the trails um and then uh going down to the city bucket um the like I mentioned those local roads that would be constructed would ultimately become um city streets and and would fall into the city's ownership and maintenance. Um and uh we just have a bullet there at the end that again we're we're looking for um some municipal consent here at the layout approval stage to move forward. That is what I have. I've got my my boss's contact info on here, but certainly Alex has mine as well as as Nate, our project manager. So, we'd be happy to answer questions at any time, but uh for the moment, I will stand for questions. Thank you for this opportunity. >> Thank you, sir. Questions? Now would be the time to really get into the details. >> Oh, that's we'll leave that for you, but I'll start with a question. Go ahead. >> No, actually more of a comment, but >> um I guess the question could be how much extra time did you put into this project? because when we first saw this is uh there were some concerns and uh first of all I want to say I appreciate uh all the work you have done >> and the county has done uh the homeowners were concerned and I think this is a balance and uh with the added road construction for the uh uh interior roads I guess I'll call them uh I think it's it's a better balance so um I appreciate what you've done with Thank you. Thank you, mayor and council member. >> Anybody else? >> Councelor Contrers, >> half comment, half concern, uh question. So, um I I did get like um a question was the homeowners who are still looking at it. Will you guys bring it back to them or is this the final place you're bringing it? >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, mayor and council member that I had intended to to mention that. So, we did so we had the open house uh a couple months ago and uh we had a follow-up meeting with the folks on on Norton um last week u to kind of present that that left in to them. That was I would say very well received. That was one of the more positive public meetings that that I've been a part of honestly. Um um so that was that was good. And now we are uh intending to have a another uh we need to have another meeting with with Marcia as well to kind of communicate these changes. But we we do see that with that local road, there's we also are engaging the two property owners that it affects, but it also affects the neighborhood to the north. You know, the folks on Blue Heron Court um on Wooduck, there's there's not a lot of additional traffic probably generated there, but there's some additional traffic, especially for the folks that are on a culde-sac right now. And that that would change. So, um we have a need to engage with everyone from the Marshia neighborhood, the two property owners, and then the neighborhood in the north. I see that as one I think we could do that as one meeting kind of to talk about that local road connection. Um so that's that's a next step for us. Um and then uh we will be uh participating in public engagement for the 17 and 12 project as well that I mentioned that's that's down in Prior Lake. But um those are kind of our our next steps from a from a public engagement process. >> Thank you. >> Any anybody else? Okay. I have a flurry so I waited waited till last. Um, one resident in Norton Drive had a concern uh with the original version of pulling a boat coming out of Norton, making a right, and now going down to Marcia and making a U-turn to go south. >> Yep. >> And it's really hard to gauge the size on this screen with what you've showed us, >> right? >> Will that movement be possible? >> Yeah, it's definitely going to Thank Thank you for the question, Mayor. Um the it's definitely going to depend on like exactly what what their boat is and we we've run some turning templates for various configurations. Um my the best thing that I would say is you know depending on the frequency >> I would say a standard size boat or maybe a utility trailer behind a pickup truck, >> right? Yeah, we do have the the two um the two through lanes for you know so that's a little extra wide and then we have a good size shoulder. So I think it accommodates a lot of movements. Uh we definitely have seen that it accommodates a uh a school bus. Um, I think again depending on the frequency that somebody's pulling it, I would probably just recommend that they take another route around. Um, not that it doesn't accommodate it, but just um, from a safety standpoint doing that U-turn. It I would recommend that if somebody's on Norton that they go up to 42 and then route down Stemer Ridge to to 82 or again depending on where they're where they're exactly headed and how frequently they make that maneuver. But um, that yeah, that's kind of the best I can answer that question. But you mentioned there's two lanes and a shoulder which should be adequate enough in my my thoughts. >> I agree. Sometimes our um software that we use to to emulate these things is a little overly conservative is what I'll say. So um it it can accommodate a school bus for sure but by by a long margin fire >> I assume a fire truck too then. >> Fire truck. Yeah. Yep. >> Okay. >> Yep. And and then uh looking at the trail plan, you show regional trails and local trails and the local trails going down to 12 um into Prior Lake territory. And does Prior Lake have a plan to pick up on that trail? >> That I don't know. Nate, do you have any other I I don't know. I can look into that for sure. >> Okay. and and I you know just just looking at this it shows the regional trail um going down Howard Lake and down uh 150th 14 and I got to tell you just my glancing is the blue lines seem to be more regional and the green lines seem to be more local. Um but that's just the way I'm looking at it. >> Normally a local trails will keep you kind of close and regional take you farther out >> for sure. And I'm looking at this and the green is keeping you kind of close and the the blue is taking you farther out into other jurisdictions. >> I think there's a little bit of both. Yeah. Um >> it's deceiving because it's not showing you where they connect to the regional trail. >> I think a bigger picture view of that is good and ultimately it's this this area ties into our big woods trail which is which is a large trail loop and then it ties into that Mariam Junction trail that I mentioned. Those are the two regional trails. >> I agree this figure isn't necessary. bigger point I'm making is if the trail going down uh past 282 to 12 doesn't connect with nothing >> we don't want to send people down to a dead end. >> Got it. >> So we need to take a good look at that. Maybe that's >> maybe now now is not the right time for that. >> Yep. >> Until we're coordinated with Prior Lake so that actually connects. >> Makes sense. >> Um and then I just a comment overall comment. I I know that the the county with a principal alterial is trying to move traffic in a safe manner. I get it. We all get in our cars and we have somewhere to be in 15 minutes and it's 10 miles away and we get on the the beine and try to get there with uninterrupted travel. Um so I totally get that part. But on the same token, you know, we're battling with how do we these podes of houses? How do we have local accesses too? And that was really the big concern at the time. Um, so I I think some of that has been addressed pretty well. Appreciate that. Uh, obviously you must listen to a lot of comments at that open house. Uh, my last question would just be generic to our staff, um, engineering and anybody else of working with Scott County on this particular plan. Any thoughts and questions that you might have that we're not thinking of at the moment? Mr. Reynolds, you want to lead us off or does our engineer want to? I I think that um city staff certainly appreciates the hard work that the county has done in regard to this plan. I think there were significance concerns from staff, from residents uh uh with the initial plan. Uh we've talked about it internally. We appreciate the hard work and this is something certainly from a staff perspective that we can support. >> Okay. Anything to add from our city engineer, Mr. Jordan? >> Uh no, mayor and councel. I think uh city administrator Reynolds spoke well for us. Uh Scott County has been an excellent partner to uh listen to the feedback that's been shared, not only from council, from the residents, and from our uh city engineering staff, and we've worked together to come up with a plan that I think we all can support. >> Okay. All right. Any other questions from council of any staff members? Good. Thank you very much for your presentation. >> Thank you for your time tonight. >> Need anything officially out of us? >> No, sir. This will come back to you um later this year for your ultimate uh local approval. >> All righty. Thank you, sir. >> Talk about the trail size again. >> Yeah. >> Work them over a little bit. >> Why do they need 10 feet? >> Thanks, county. Really appreciate you guys' work. >> Thank you. >> Uh item number nine, leazison administration reports. Mr. Lara, are you first? >> Sure, I can go. Um, so attended the League of Minnesota Cities Conference at the end of June for the first time. Um, learned a lot. It was just it was nice to um just sit and be around other cities and hear like what are their problems and what what what are their residents talking about and then it also makes you appreciate the things we have uh a lot. So um yeah, it was a really good experience. Um, so looking forward to hopefully getting more involved with the league themselves and then also attending next year. So >> you can sign up online, create a password and all that stuff and you can go in and you can get all kinds of educational data and you can do it right from the comfort of your living room if you like on your Zoom thing and all that. >> Yeah, it was really good information. So >> So I would encourage that because as a member we pay for that service and it's free of charge. So >> that's all I have. >> Thank you, council contrar. Thank you, mayor. I don't have an actual liaison report, but I did also attend um the Minnesota League conferences and that very educational. Yeah. Thank you, >> Mr. Whiting. Kind of a quiet summer a little bit. Uh uh MBTA is planning a tour of the amphitheater and I want to thank staff for working with them. We're going to bring out one of those new carriage coaches that we're going to be traveling around uh Canterbury and uh take the our board uh through uh with some other uh members uh some other group uh through the amphitheater tours. So, it was great to coordinate with staff. So, I appreciate that. >> Very good, Mr. Delaney. >> Like we had a long time since the last meeting. >> As far as uh Shakook utility updates, um AMI is getting closer to finishing up for our city, which is good. I think they had 4 418 482 remaining mixture of water and electric meters to install. They're literally going door to door in some cases to get residents to who haven't responded in a while to to kind of let them know that we're here. A lot of a lot of times they're basically just come on in and get it done since you're knocking on the door and you're >> you're here with the equipment. So get it done. Um went to legislative updates. I think I went to at least three of these this past uh past month. Uh first is MMUA. A lot of great information. Uh the one takeaway I I think is the uh EV I think there's the fees going from 75 per year to 200 per year and they're adding a 5 cent per kilowatt charge. So if you're uh it's almost it's trying to mimic the gas tax. So you know that that's right >> coming but there was a whole lot of other good stuff. Um 169 coalition we're returning back to the original dues. I think just after co they dropped the dues to half and we need to return. are letting all the organizations membership know that'll happen next year. Um they're looking for a new fiduciary uh if I got that right. Fiduciary agent. Uh the current one is um retiring and they're trying to see if a city or wants to take that on. Uh let's see. Um >> are they looking for a city to take that on? >> Correct. >> And are you asking if our city is interested in taking that on? >> Oh, well each each of the members are going to go back and ask their city if they want to take that on. So yeah, I haven't had that discussion yet. So >> Okay. who >> a fiduciary uh agent basically they >> No, for what organization? >> Uh 169. >> Oh, okay. >> You're you're welcome to do that if you good. >> Um let's see. Uh Timothy S SWCTC as a transportation 169 uh corridor uh member and I they're doing a lot of great stuff over there. Um I love what they're doing with the bees. Um, I didn't bring that here, but they were putting some more more uh habitats over by the arborum and I thought that was really exciting as part of one of their construction activities. So, I thought that was pretty cool. I'm a bee fan if you don't know that, by the way. Um, legislative updates. Um, Representative Bberg, uh, Senator Pratt had their leg legislative updates this past week. I think I dropped off some literature in case you want to take a look at that. Um there was a meet and greet or at least a presentation from a former council member Winford Russell from uh Brooklyn Park. Uh wow was great discussion. Got a chance to meet one of our >> current Met council members Chai Lee. Good discussion with him and some other council members. So that was pretty good. And that's all the excitement. >> Very good. A lot of lot of projects going down south 169. uh Jordan prior to Jordan and some more accidents. So obviously them safety issues are still there. That's why the projects are happening. >> Uh my report June 18th, I went to the Met Council meeting in Chaza, talked with both chair Zel and our commissioner Deb Barber and also met a northern part um council member met council member. June 24th was a shock metawakatan sue community's Dakota Prairie grand opening and ribbon cutting for their new recycle center on 41 just crossed tracks. Um state-of-the-art facility. It's like 70 75% of Minnesota's recyclable is our capacity. So that's uh pretty amazing actually. Um June 26 was Jim Jim Davis's in our inspection department retirement. Came down and told him thank you for all the decades of service to Shakipi. Um July 7th I I attended the legislative update. July 10th, can uh county um county meeting with staff uh sand venture tour for the county folks that were in attendance. And uh old stories about from way back when from some of those folks. That was kind of cool. June 15th, uh today was uh NP direct ribbon cutting down on 120 Home Street. different kind of uh model. Kind of a cool model. Uh nurse practitioners along with other services um right downtown. That's going to be it's kind of a cool model. It almost reminds me of going back to when they had the standalone doctor's offices for the little things. You know, you they can actually practice medicine. They're they're between a reg registered nurse and a full-fledged doctor. So they can do the >> located 120 Home Street. Okay. >> That would have been the old Paul's bike shop in that neck of the woods there. So, Mr. Reynolds, you have a report? >> Uh, nothing for me, sir. >> Very good. Any other staff member reports that you want? Nope. Good. City bill list. Questions on the bill list? >> No questions. >> No. >> 9B. News and announcements. Who's got the news and the announcements? >> We have take the first one. Um, it is time to register for night to unite. This is an annual summer tradition that uh we as a council would like to attend with our police and fire department. We like to go party hop if you may. Uh it's whether it's a backyard barbecue, block party, or a simple chat in your front yard. The goal is to bring people together, strengthen our community bonds. Please register your party at shockpn.gov night um between or you have until the 21st of July. Um you can request a visit from police officers, firefighters, and other city representatives. >> And I think that happens August 5th, correct? >> August 5th. Yep. >> Okay. Council contriers. >> Yep. Hubert Park performance series. The Hubert Park performances. They include free music and entertainment. Thursdays, June through August at Huber Park. The events run from 7 to 9:00 p.m. No registration is required. Bring a chair or a blanket to sit on. >> Salsa del Soul this Thursday. >> Thursday. Y >> very good, >> Mr. Whiting. >> All right. Rhythm on the Rails concert series takes place Wednesdays from 6:00 p.m. to 900 p.m. downtown Shakape. Rhythm on the Rails is a free six week concert series running uh from June 18th through the first week in August. Who's playing this week? Do we know? >> It is the >> De Leopard Tribute Band. And I don't remember what their name is. >> Okay. Something. Well, I guess that's where we're going to be on Wednesday, >> but it's not Leopard. It's Deaf uh I can't remember either, but that that's going to be >> We'll find out. All right. >> They're all good, >> Mr. Delaney. >> Okay. Annual street project reminder. Information on annual street projects such as silk coating and pavement rejuvenation can be found on the city's website at wwagshackbymin.gov. Thank you. All great things happening. And I will just say that the seal coating and pavement work is only going to show you shockp. There's county, state, feds, and everybody else doing projects all over the state of Minnesota. You can't go anywhere without seeing it. But we'll show you where shock pees are. >> Yep. >> All right. Nobody talks to each other. >> Item number 10. Any other business? >> I'll go first. >> Um I would like to submit for uh future discussion that um the uh Mary'stown Dog Park be renamed in honor of the Melissa and Dar Hartman Hortman um family. Um >> yes, I'd like to submit that for future discussion. >> Is there for that possibility? There is a process. >> Yeah, we have a policy on that and I'll h I'll have to take a look at that and um have to submit the application with the justification for it as well. >> Sure. >> It would probably be easier in my opinion if it was somebody from our area. Um I get what you're saying though. >> It was I should say let me clarify it was or I was approached um and petitioned to um bring that up. So, um, I could go back to that person and some once I know the steps and process. >> Yeah, I I don't think I don't think it would be eligible in our current policy. Now, council can always change that, but uh I'll pull the policy tomorrow morning and let and I'll send something out to everyone so you can take a look. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other items, Mr. Delaney? >> So, I know we're going through the the kind of pay studies and um how often does staff get evaluated? That's one of the questions I had. Is that like a yearly evaluation or >> and I guess I guess would that be all of our staff, our administrative staff, our department heads, >> you know, just I didn't know if we had that answer. I mean, outside of um here, I know my current employer, I get evaluated every 12 months, >> right? >> We get one review. When was the last time we reviewed you? >> Uh last year. Uh and we're actually currently working on that right now. Um we're trying something different this time around and we'll get that to you as soon as we have it nailed down. >> Okay. >> And then for department heads, they're um reviewed by >> administration. >> Correct. >> And that is done on what kind of a time period? >> That's actually done through our process which is also a yearly process. >> And then department heads do their department employees. And what is that? Is that a yearly or >> That's also a yearly. Okay. And I'm sorry, what is the name of our program? >> NEOGV. >> NEOGV. It's done, it's all automated through our NEOGV program. And um so quite literally we'll have dates that pop up on when we have to achieve things as leadership and then we plug it in >> and then we set the the scale as far as the lower employees, as far as the union, you know, during the union negotiations that they're hit the scales as far as their rates, right? And then it comes down Yeah, we do the steps and all that stuff, but the actual performance performance part is done by their supervisor. Their >> performance and compensation are two different things. Uh uh performance is something that's done with at the staff level. Compensation. We are done with the compensation uh program. Uh our study we're having some issues with uh our equity our equity report. Uh and actually it won't even be by this. It'll be once uh the fire department has finalized their unionization activities. We're very concerned that it's going to throw us out of compliance with uh the state's equity process, which is interesting because they have designated certain jobs as female jobs and certain jobs as male jobs, which I think is exceptionally misogynistic. But what do I know? uh and we will get punished if those female jobs are paid less than the male jobs. And so we are struggling with that and have been working with the state uh and you know obviously nothing will move forward until we've got that worked out. >> Okay. Any other questions? Other any other business? >> No. >> No. We can either have a motion to adjurnn a motion to August 6th. That's the day after the night to unite. It's a Wednesday, uh 2025 at 7 p.m. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Seconded by Mr. Lara. >> Yes. >> Discussion on the motion. Discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. We arejoured.