[music] Let's call the Shakp City Councilmeeting to order for May 5th, 2026. If you could please take the role.>> Council member Delaney >> here.>> Council member Whiting >> here.>> Council member Contreres >> here.>> Council member Laura >> here. Mayor Layman here. Item numberthree, if you'll join us for the pledge of>> allegiance to the flag of the United States ofAmerica and to the republic for it stands, one nation under God,indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Item number four, approval of theagenda. Any changes to the agenda? >> Yes, Mr. Mayor. We have several fromstaff. Item 5D, the salary adjustment. The item memo was updated to clarifythat making the change to council member salaries will also eliminate the currentpractice of additional city funded compensation for liaison and otheraffiliated group meetings. Item 5L, the joint powers agreement hada resolution uh number was changed from 067 to 072and finally 11C is pulled and will be coming at a later date.>> Does anything change in 5 L with the resolution number change?>> Is that no sir or 5J? 5 L >> 5 L>> 5 L >> right does any The memo from staff said5J but it's actually 5 L >> 5 L>> does anything change in >> just the number>> okay >> so it's got to change and 11 C>> 11C will be coming later >> will be rem deleted for from the agendadeleted and coming back correct Correct. >> Okay. Changes from councel.>> Mr. Delaney, >> I'd like to pull five.>> It's the agenda. >> Oh, sorry. Thank you,>> Mr. White. >> I'll make a motion to approve the agendaas modified as >> second.>> Second by councelor Contrarus. Discussion on the agenda.>> Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed.>> Agenda is adopted. Item number five, consent agenda. Mr. Delaney,>> I'd like to pull 5D. >> 5D. Delta. >> Any other Mr. Whiting?>> I had 5D and 5N. >> Nancy 5 Nancy. Any other changes from council?Let's get a motion in a second. >> Mr. Delaney,>> I'll make a motion >> to approve>> through the consent agenda >> as>> as uh agreed >> modified. Modified. Yes. Okay.>> Second by contrarus. Mr. Reynolds, will you read the consent, please?>> Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, members of council, these are the consent agenda items forTuesday, May 5th of 2026. 5A is a civic rec recreation software renewal. 5Bdeclares forfeited vehicle as surplus property. 5C is the Shockby St. Francis2025 bonds amendment, which was requested by the borrower. 5E approves aspecial event permit and a temporary liquor license for ALS in the alley. 5Fawards contracts for the 2026 safe routes to school infrastructureimprovements project. 5G awards a contract for the LionsParking lot improvements. 5H approves plans and authorizes biddingfor the Quarry Lake erosion restoration project. 5 approves plans and authorizesbidding for the Boiling Springs drainage improvement project.5J approves on sale and Sunday liquor licenses for L uh before uh the newowners of Aries. 5K approves two temporary liquor licenses for theShockby Lions Club and Foundation softball tournament. 5L is the jointpowers agreement with the BCA for prosecuting services. 5M is surplusproperty. 5 is a special event permit and temporary liquor license for JCIShaki. 5P is the 2026 annual roadway crack sealproject. 5Q approves the 20 April 21st, 2026 city council minutes. 5R is the JoeSchleeper Stadium electrical panel upgrade project. 5S is an Arbor Day propproclamation and 5T is a contract with Stantech for South Shockby AU update.>> Thank you, Mr. Reynolds. Any discussion on the motion? Discussion seeing none,all in favor say I. I opposed. Motion passes. >> Item number six, public comment. Ifyou're here for an item that is not on the council agenda, now would be thetime to step up to the table. We'd love to hear your comments. So, if you'rehere for an item not on our agenda, anybody here for an item not on ouragenda? Seeing none items removed from con from from theconsent agenda. First item is 5D removed by councelorDelaney. >> Councelor Delaney, floor is yours.>> Okay, I agree and disagree with some of this. Um I know we're trying to get tomidpoint, but we set midpoint. We set up for for staff and that's for recruitingand retention. Um all council were aware of the salary when we ran for office.that wasn't the reason we ran. Um, from what I could pull from the internet, ifyou look at comparable cities, we're probably about seventh. And that'slooking at Maplewood at a population of 43,000 down in Roseville, population36,000. I mean, that's I think reasonable and okay.>> Can you pull your microphone up, please? >> I'm sorry. I think that's reasonable andokay based on looking at those cities. And again, I for midpoint, that's whatwe again target for staff. I mean, some I agree with if we want to pull the umfiling the PDM and rolling that into the current and then putting a cola onthere, I think that would be sufficient, but pushing all the way up $3,000, Ithink that's a little excessive for the work we do. So, I mean, that's myreasoning. >> Okay. Um,other comments, Mr. Reynolds?>> Yeah, I couldn't disagree with Councelor Delaney more. Uh the the the whole pointof having comparable cities uh and having a midpoint for salary is thatwe're benchmarking marking ourselves with these comp comparable cities on awhole range of issues. And frankly the job that you individuals do,you do not get compensated enough period. And and the reality is is whatwe want to do is to make sure that we're at the midpoint so we're not at thebottom. And we don't want people who can't afford to take time uh to not runfor council. And you know, it's it's it's it's a small stipened. You probablyget a quarter an hour when it comes down to it based upon all the things you doand the time involved. So, uh as a as a city administrator, I think this iscritical to uh ensuring that our council uh is appropriately compensated.Well, I won't even say that we're we're compensating youth what we can dopolitically, frankly, because it's the same as we do for staff. And if it wasup to me, it would be higher because I frankly think the value is worth that.But that being said, uh uh we don't want to be at the bottom of the pile. And Ifully understand it. It's tough to vote on something where you're givingyourself a raise, but you're not because the reality is this doesn't go intoeffect until 2027. and three of you up for elected office before then. So,>> thank you, Mr. Mr. Whiting. >> Uh, first off, I wanted to bring thisoff because, you know, we are talking about our pay and I think that should betransparent and not put through on the consent uh agenda items. Um, the otherthing is, um, you know, we want to we want to talkabout the raise here that we're talking about. It's about our council pay. Um,so the one concern I have, um, we're not raising the mayor's pay, eventhough it may have looked the, uh, sufficient or to the midpoint of others,but, uh, I think if the council gets a raise, I think the mayor should as well.Um the other concerns I have uh is that weare reducing the or taking away the pdium uh for other liaison appointments.Um I also think the mayor should have that component. You know we we are notdoing this for the pay. None of us I can hope I can speak for all of us and saythat we didn't sign up for this. We didn't run for election for the pay. Umand as Mr. Mr. Reynolds mentioned uh we don't want folks that can't afford to torun to be a part of this. Uh one of us does get paid for their liaison. Therest of us don't. And I know uh when I have to leave work that costs money. Ihave to take off time from work to to do it. So it's about equity. It's aboutfairness. When I'm speaking to the PDM concern, umit's a stipen. It's a little token to take off some time to go to a meetingfor the city, but I think that should still be part of it. I I could go eitherway on the pay increase. I think it's uh important to keep it up because in thepast we've fallen behind and nobody wanted to be that council member thatraised the pay. Well, I'm not up for reelection, so I can talk about this atthis point, I guess, in time. So, um I would make a motion to adopt so we canopen up discussion a little more. Adopt ordinance uh uh 02026-012 modifying the city counsycity code section 31.04 04 pertaining to the salaries of the mayor and councilmembers increasing the annual salary for council members from 9,000 to 12,500and then I would add increasing the mayor's salary from 14,380 to 18,380and continuing to add the pdium at $75 per per event and include the mayor inthat. >> I'll second it for discussion.Okay, we have a motion and a second. Discussion.Discussion. Councelor Contrus, did you have something?>> Um, I mean, like councelor Wayne said, we're not here for the money. I know.Um, but it is I guess I don't know why you wouldn'tget a raise or I mean the the the mayor's section isn't I didn't>> Well, the staff reports that it's already the midpoint to comparables.>> It's higher than the midpoint. >> Oh, okay. And again, the whole purposeof doing this is to keep us at the midpoint. Um, andyou know, the mayor would be the one person that would not be at themidpoint. So, it would be even higher than it is now if we were to do that.It's your call. Obviously, >> the I guess when I read this, first ofall, I'm not I'm not interested in I I think the increase is too much. Um thequestion I have first off is what is the average PDM per yearum by council members? Does staff know that answer?>> We do not have that information because we did not get the question before themeeting and could compile that information.>> Okay. And councelor Whiting, you said you don't get a PDM when you're servingon the MVTA. When you go to that meeting,>> I don't get an extra pay. >> You should you should be getting>> I get a pdeium. Yes. >> Okay. because I thought I heard you sayyou don't get a PDM. >> No, I didn't say that.>> Okay. Um, one minute, Mr. Lara. Figured my finish my comments here. Uh, I thinkit's 3500 in one shot is is too large. Uh, trying to compromise a little here.Uh, I'm not interested in my in the mayor pay increasing even though it'snot for me. It's for the next mayor because it's in the ballpark of where itshould be. Um, but I do think if we're going to get ridof the prediums that we should take what the average pdiums received are andincorporated into the increase. Um, but the thing really missing that I'dreally like to see is I'd like to see a a yearly uh colaconsistent with the staff's increase, cost of living increases,just automatic because that would take care of this lag thing that keepshappening every so many years. Um, you know, if if ifstaff is getting a three and a half, then it should be three and a half forcouncil members. If staff is getting a five, it should be a five for councilmembers. Uh, and it should just be baked right into the policy. And that wouldsomewhat keep it consistent and kind of take away the political aspects of it.Um, I'm certainly I certainly think 3500 is [clears throat] too much of anincrease all at once. I'd be willing to compromise on that number, but I'd alsolike to see a cola put into it. And my own experience, turning in the pdiumsis a pain in the butt, >> and it's a pain in the butt for staff,>> you know, and so I don't really I I honestly I can say that I rarely turnthem in. I think maybe I've turned in six or eight in four years. I'm guessingit might be more than that, but it's pretty low. I don't usually turn them inbecause it's just >> forget.>> I forget. >> It's It's just [laughter]>> I was under the impression you you didn't get the PDM.>> I do for Yes, I do. for the things that I'm actually the mayor gets pert>> that I'm actually appointed to. That would be the uhmunicipal legislative commission and uh there's just a few others, but um like Isaid, a lot of times I don't turn anything in.>> The the amount of time that staff spends on this is probably in excess of thisvery small $3,000. I mean, this item is inconsequentialfrom a budgetary perspective. >> This can this can be handled by yourcurrent budget. Yeah. So, I was looking at uh I don'tknow, raise it a thousand, put in a cola, um leave the mayor out of itbecause that's already where it needs to be and uh whatever you want to do withthe pdiums. I I don't I think whatever we raise it by should be consistent withwhat the loss of pdeium would be. That's my thoughts. Mr. Lara, you had>> uh you asked what um the pdium is and how much it would be a year. Um it's$50. I know what it is. I'm asking what the average turned in by council is.>> Um I would say 600 a year by me. >> Okay.>> I haven't found one in many years. I haven't found>> 400 a quarter. >> I would I would be willing to go like a1,200 increase and then put a cola into it. and the cola would be whatever theyearly staff increase is. >> I don't know what the rest of councilis. We do have a motion and a second on the floor. So, >> council, what are you thinking?>> I have no opinion either way, >> Mr. Wedding.>> I can restate my motion to address what we talked about. I still think thatsince one of our council members does receive a paycheck for their liaison,somehow that needs to be compensated for it for fairness and equity for the restof the council members that still take the time to do their liaison. Rememberwhen we started this, there was people that weren't going to their liaisonappointments. So, um that is an issue with the utility and ifthe utility wants to address that, they can address it. It's not I don't havethe ability you don't have the ability to do anything about that. That's athat's a utility decision. They pay all of their>> We do have the ability to do something about that tonight. Right here, rightnow, we're talking about equity and fairness.>> Let's talk about that because I want to know more about that. Is is our utilityleazison not getting the pdeium? >> They don't get the PDM. I don't>> I do not get pdeium. I get paid by the utility. I don't I don't take a pdeiumfrom the city for that. Yeah, I I think there's a conflict of interest in that.I think it should be a pdeium. Uh I don't think it should be getting paidfrom being a council member and getting paid as a commissioner.>> This would, if I may, Mr. Mayor, this would balance it a little bit with apdeium for the council members since council member Delaney does not take apdeium because he's paid for being on the public utility. So I think thepdeium is appropriate for the rest of the council members and yourself fordoing our appointed liaison duties. You know it takes me an hour to get to mineand I have to leave work an hour and a half early,>> right? >> So um that's cost costs me money. Um soI I think you know I'm I'm going to do it but uh I think it's a little tokencompensation. You know I don't charge for mileage or anything like that aswell. And that's why we're trying to increase the the rate to cover.>> No, we're trying to keep increase the rate to keep up with our, you know,comparable cities, >> right?>> So that's So I would be willing to uh restate my motion taking your raise outsince you're not interested in that. I thought it'd be equitable to do that.>> It's really for the next mayor. So >> the next mayor, it might be you uh orwhoever, but uh so I would restate the motion leaving the compensation asstated in the document because I think that's fair and equitable and includeand I'll change it to the $50 pdeium and not change the council the mayor'spay and restate that as a motion.>> Is that any different than the original motion? Yeah, I took out the $4,000increase for the mayor. Oh, >> and $25 off the pdium.>> Okay. Is the seconder okay with the amendment?>> Yeah. >> Yes.>> Okay. Discussion on the amended motion. >> State the predium piece again. Missingit. >> So, the pium would remain the same. Ihad stated $75 pdium for council member appointee leaison meetings slashmeetings. I'll change that to $50 as it was so it stays the same uh and keep thepay for council members the same because I think that keeps us at the midpointand we're not having this argument every we don't like to have it every coupleyears so we do it every few longer than that. Let me see if I got this right.>> Mr. Thompson >> uh Mr. Mr. Mayor, just so we're clear,[clears throat] the motion, as I understand, is to adoptordinance uh 202612 as presented in the packet, which wouldleave the mayor's salary at 15,000 and raise the salary of council persons to12,500 effective January 1st, 2027.>> It would keep the piums at 50. >> Yeah, the piums are not not actuallypart of this ordinance. That's why I want>> So, we're amending we're amending the the motion. There was a table,>> but it's not it's the the pdiums are not part of the ordinance,>> right? >> But is a motion to keep the pdium thesame at $50? >> Yes, because it was stated that that wasclarifying the motion. If you want to see what was presented,>> so so no change in the predium and adopt ordinance. Correct.>> 2026 12 that was in the packet. That's the motion.>> That's my understanding. Yes. Okay. And I didn't hear anything about a colayearly. Um, so >> you want to add that as an amendment? Ithink >> No, no, I'm uh I'll just vote againstit. I I still think it's too much of a increase at once. I don't think it Ithink there's a lot that could be saved with the pdiums and staff time and thepain that it is to deal with them. And uh uh all of this could be avoided byhaving the cost of living increase in it every year. So, councelor Contrarus.>> So, we Okay, just so I am understanding. So, we will the way the motion the wayyou're stating it, um, councelor Whiting, the raise will go to 1250, butstill continue with the pdeium. >> Yeah.>> I mean, I'm okay with taking the predium off if we're doing that, you know, theraise. >> Are you withdrawing your second? >> I think I am. I I yeah I think I'drather save the the I mean since we are doing that raise.>> Okay. So yeah, >> now we're back to square one. We do nothave a second to the motion. So >> I think the way it was stated was justjust fine. >> Oh, you're you're>> Yeah, the the way it was it was it was without the original without thepredium. Yeah. >> Okay. So>> I will just say that one of us is going to get paid for their liaison and therest of us aren't then. >> But that wouldn't have changed anyways.>> But we got a pdeium. >> But again, that's an issue that we can't>> you know that's we can adjust it right here.>> Yes. >> Just getting the the predium is that>> and that I'm not the first utility commissioner from this board. So, Iwon't be the last utility commissioner from this board. So,>> well, just for the record, when I served on a utility, I didn't get paidanything. I didn't get a pdeium or any pay from>> Neither did I. Y >> So, that's a change that the utilitymust have made. And we should probably talk to them about changing that becausethat's absolutely not fair. I agree with you. So,>> all right. Where we at? What do we want to do? >> I don't know. Do we need to come back toit? >> Yeah, there's nothing on the floor rightnow. I'm I'm still at increasing it by a,000 or,500 forcouncil members. Don't increase the mayors and uh put a cost put a pdeiumnot a pdeium a cost of living adjustment equal yearly equal to what staffreceives. And if you if you want to keep the 50per DM because it's a lower dollar amount, that's fine. [clears throat]>> No, I can. >> Some of us some of us just don't turnthem in because it's not worth it. >> I don't turn mine in. So,>> Mr. Whiting, >> I'll make a motion to adopt ordinance02026 tax 012 modifying the Shakapi city codesection 31.04 04 pertaining to the salaries of the mayor and city councilmembers increasing the annual salary for council members from 9,000 to 12,500. >> It'll second it.>> Okay. So now there's no PDM. >> I I'll add the addition of a have stafflook at a cola. >> There's no pdeium in this, right?>> No pdeium. >> Okay. And there's no cola. All right.No, >> I just I just added that if you if youagree with that. >> Well, that's where we were a minute ago.No, I just added it to the motion. So, the the ordinance with a cola adjustmentadjusted by staff >> for Okay,>> that is equal to the city staff members. >> Okay, Mr. Lara,>> just so I'm understanding this correctly, it instead of being nine,it'd be 10 >> 10 five.>> It'd be 125 >> 12. No, for but you're what you're prowhat you're proposing. Yes, it'd be 105 um>> plus uh the 3% >> plus whatever the cola is yearly fromthat staff gets >> no pdeium.>> No pdeium, >> but I could go either way with thepdeium. I'm not If you want to have a pdeium, that's fine, too.>> But the one Jay, Mr. Whiting, councelor Whiting was keep it at>> keeping it as >> with the cola. I mean, yeah, we can be in the I mean,like I said, the whole reason why we're talking about this is because there isthat leg and if we don't do a 3% or add a colas part to it, we're just going tobe doing this every so many years anyways and it's just and to be honest,this is a really awkward conversation to be talking about um our pay um in frontof >> y>> the public. Um >> I can amend my motion and second what umcouncelor Whiting said adding the cola. >> Okay. So, Well, on the>> Mr. Thompson, >> Mr. Mayor, we're not going to be able toWe can give direction to staff to come back with a cola, but we can't draftthat language tonight because it has to be drafted in a way that it's effectiveon January 1st, 2027 and every year thereafter. That's we we need I wouldneed more time to draft that type of ordinance if the direction from thecouncil is to put a colon in. We I don't think we can correct that tonight. So,do you want to give direction to staff to bring this back atwhat dollar amount? >> As stated with the cola as adjusted towhat the city staff collect on an annual basis.>> Okay. So, Jay wants the 125. Is there three that support that?>> That's fine. >> Is there three that would support 105?>> Who all supports 105? me up. Delaney, where you at?[cough and clears throat] >> If it will eliminate PDM at the 105.>> So, >> you're on 105. I'm on 105. He's on 105.Where you at? >> 125.>> You're at 125. Okay. So, we have three for 105. How many are in favor of adding a yearlycola to the policy? >> One, two, three, four. PDMS $50 per leazison meeting attended.Who's in favor for that? Fair. >> You're in favor of that?>> I'm okay with that. >> Sure.>> Fine. >> You four for that.Uh DMs. All right. So the direction to staff would be to bring this back at 105a yearly cost of living increase consistent with what staff receives andprediums for leaison that they're you're appointed to are wequestions from staff good with where we're at? I mean understood understoodwhere we're at. >> Got it, Mr. Mayor.>> Thank you. 5D.Uh, the next one that was removed from consent was 5N, snowplowing ice controlpolicy, Mr. Whiting. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, yeah, what adifference a word makes. Um, let me draw your attention to page six of seven,section 14. So many of our uhcity citizens have uh plantings in their boulevard. Um they might put chachkisout there. Uh this by changing the words from is not permitted from permitted tonot permitted tells our citizens that no, you can no longer put flowers inyour boulevard. You can no longer put anything in your boulevard. And I knowfrom walking around this community that a lot of people have that. I understandthat this document also says that if the city does damage to that that they'renot responsible, but that's a big change. Um, it's underlandscaping. >> They're adding uh landscaping includingnursery and inanimate materials that are installed or encroach on the city'sowned right of way goes from permitted to not permitted.But the owners are assumes all risk damage is what it said. But now it saysand the owner assumes all risk damage. >> So I'm thinking popup uh library boxes,>> anything library boxes, flowers, uh you know, native plantings. Umsome people have uh gardens all the way out to the the street. Of course, youknow, they're going to get hit by a plow or whatever they might happen, but thischanges it. There you go. >> I'm on page six of seven, page 99,item number section 14, landscaping. >> So, that concerns me if we're going tobe uh I know we don't enforce a lot of our ordinances, but uh if we started allof a sudden telling people they can't put their gardens or their bushes orwhatever they have in their boulevard or that's going to be a problem.That's a good sign. >> One of the issues that we continue tohave problems with is when we push snow, we push it in places that damage thingsthat people have in the rightway. The rightway is the city right ofway. And uhyou know, the whole point is to say, okay, you're not allowed to do this, butif you do it and it gets damaged, you're responsible for it. We don't haveride-of-way police that go around and say, "Oh, you got a daisy in therideway." Uh, but you know, when you could,I guess we could. >> Well, it's we're not going to spend thatkind of money to have somebody going up and down every single street. And>> so, can we word it so that they assume responsibility?>> It already is worded that they assume responsibility. Mr. Mayor,[clears throat] we're good. still. >> So now it's just saying that it's notpermitted and they still assume responsibility.>> Mr. Whiting, if if we if we all we'd have to take is>> not >> iswe could actually take not permitted out completely them two words and say theowner assumes all risk for any damages to anything in the easement.>> I'm okay with that. Period. Well, but the problem is you're going to getpeople putting sheds and things like that on the easement,>> but this is salting. >> Yeah, this is we're we're talking about>> snow removal here. >> And we're talking about landscaping. UhI don't see a shed on the rightway as landscaping.>> Are you talking in the back of the um alleys?>> You're going to have landscaping sheds. I'll put money on it right now. >> So, it reads landscaping includingnursery and inanimate materials that are installed or encroach on the city zoneright away. And we're talking about the salting and snow plowing policy.>> Correct. [clears throat] >> So, that's my concern. I I hate to say it, but most of my frontyard is city rightaway since you narrow it up the street. I basically wouldn'tbe able to use my front yard for anythingunder the Nothing's permitted. What do we have a I think we got a birdbath there and [cough] flower baskets and whatnot.>> I was I'm surprised how far back it comes when he narrowed the street up.Mhm. >> It's it's the policy does not rest onthis small. I mean feel free to strike that and we'll continue to deal with theissue as we have been u for decades now. [sighs] I'll make that motion. >> M Mr. Thompson, do we need to send thisback or can we modify it? >> No, Miss May, you can approve it withjust striking without making the changes to article14. Just leave it as is and adopt all the other ones.>> Yeah, this is just a policy. This is not an ordinance,>> right? Okay, Mr. Whiting. >> I'll make a motion to approve the city'ssnow plowing and ice control policy with a modification to section 14 underlandscaping currently on our agenda page 99 and remove the changes to section 14.>> And let's make sure we're clear on the change.Sorry about that. >> So, it's adding the word not. So that'sremoved. >> And uh they're changing but to andjust putting it back to and. >> We're striking not. We're striking andand returning it to but. >> That's correct. Sorry. Yeah. >> All right. Soif we have a second I think I've got a >> second. We do have a second fromcouncelor Delaney. So now let's look at this from a standpoint of they tear upthe rightway putting in the fiber and the owner has to assume all risk forthat damage. Now mayor mayor and council are rightwaypermits would dictate who's responsible for the restoration for work done undera rightaway permit. The homeowner would not be responsible for that.>> Okay. And does does the does this hold enough teeth, Mr. Thompson? since thisis specifically related to snow and ice removal on the streets from snow plowingum that you're not going to be allowed toput a shed in the city right away. >> Uh Mr. May Council, I'll defer a littlebit to staff on this, but I don't think a shed is inanimate materials. I don'tthink that's what that phrase means. I I'm guessing it means>> other things that are like landscaping but are not right that>> I don't know it might mean >> gravel or I'm not gravel but I don'tknow I don't think I would not put a I would not call those shed materials>> it's a structure so it's fine >> okaydiscussion on the motion motion was councelor whiting seconded bycouncelor Delaney discussion on the motionseeing none All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number eight, public hearing 8A.Gravel pit tiff 22. Mr. Whiting. >> Make a motion to open a public hearing.>> Is there a second to second by councelor Contrarus? Discussion on the motion. Allin favor say I. I. Opposed. Public hearing is now open. >> Mr. Kursky, the floor is yours. Whenyou're ready. >> Thank you, mayor. Just hang one second.Lost power. Mayor, if you could delay it and go tothe next item, I'll come back. I got to get a power cord.>> All right. >> Thank you.>> Uh we do have a public hearing that we opened. So, we will hold the publichearing open. >> Correct. [snorts]uh and move to 8B and come back to 8A. >> Oh, we might have it.>> Oh, never mind. >> So, item 8 8B is a resolution certifyingassessments for delinquent police false alarm and mowing bills. Mr. Reinhardt is uh city financialdirector. >> Okay, now we got to switch it back tothis. Uh good evening, mayor and council uh members. Uh tonight we have a publichearing on uh special >> one minute. Let me open a public hearingfor that. Mr. Whiting. >> Uh I'll revise my public opening thepublic hearing to this opening of the public hearing.>> Make that motion. >> We have a motion in a second. Mr.Thompson, can can we revise the original or can we have two publicities open atthe same time? You can have I don't revise the original one. Just open a newpublic hearing. >> All right. We'll make we'll make amotion to open the public hearing. >> Four>> for the delinquent uh certifying assessments for delinquent police andfalse police police false alarms and mowing bills.>> Is there a second? >> Second.>> Second by councelor Contrarus. Discussion on the motion.All in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. Public hearing for our seconditem assessment hearings for delinquent is open.Mr. Reinhawk, the floor is yours. >> Yep. Uh good evening, mayor and councilmembers. Uh as I mentioned, tonight we have a public hearing on unpaid billsfor city services. I did provide a listing with the council packet uh thatincluded two false alarms and five lawnmowing charges. Uh the total amountof these charges is 1,400. Uh this is a process we go through once or twice ayear uh to certify these unpaid charges to the property owners uh taxes as asallowed by Minnesota statute 429. Uh following approval of the delinquentassessments, a $25 uh administrative service charge will be added to each ofthese accounts. Uh the admin charge covers our costs associated with uhcertifying these delinquent accounts. Uh property owners will have until June 6uh to pay the assessment interest free. Uh following that, the assessments willbear an interest rate of 6%. Uh we will provide a second uh courtesy letternotifying the property owners of their assessment following this uh publichearing. Uh staff is uh recommending uh certifying uh the assessments for ofdelinquent bills. Um just the remaining actions tonight would be to receivecomments from the public. Um motion to close the public hearing and thenconsideration of resolution 20263 which is a resolution uh ordering thecertification of unpaid uh false alarms and mowing bills for collection withpayable 2027 property taxes. And um staff has not received any writtenobjections. questions of staff.I have two. Uh first question, and I'm pretty sure I know the answer, butit's good to have the public know this too, but the charge that we're levyingfor the services rendered on the false alarm is comes out of our um feeschedule. Correct. >> Correct.>> And the lawnmowing, is that build on an hourly basis of from the fee schedule oris that also set in a fee schedule? Um, I think that would be based on uhthe charge that we get for hiring that >> third party to come out there and mowthat property. >> Okay. And the other question that hardto answer, I'm sure, but it's I'm curious as to what some of theseproperties are continuous and continuous and continuous.>> Do we know why that's happening? >> Um, well, it would vary for each each ofthese properties. They probably all have unique circumstances, but usually umwell I shouldn't say usually, but sometimes it's um maybe the homeownermoved away or maybe there typically vacant properties at the time when we'remowing it and they're not being upkept whatever that particular.>> I think there's one property that I've I've seen for a couple of years now.It's always consistent and I was wonderingmaybe I should have the city just mow mine. Is it cost effective for me to dothat? >> No, I won't do that. I kind of like Ienjoy that. >> Well, they own the rightway. They shoulduh your boulevard, >> right?>> Should do the boulevards, >> right? Um any questions for staff?Okay. This is a public hearing. If you're here for this item, now would bethe time to come forward. We'd love to hear your comments.If you're here for an assessment for delinquentfalse alarms or mowing, now would be the time to be heard. Is there anybody herefor this item? >> I see none. Mr. Lara,>> I make a motion to close the public hearing.>> Is there a second? >> Second.>> Seconded by Mr. Delaney. Motion made by Mr. Lara.>> Discussion on the motion. >> All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motionpasses. Public hearing is closed. Wishes of councel.Mr. Delaney. >> I'll make a motion to adopt resolutionR2026-063, certifying assessment for >> Is there a second to the motion?>> Mr. Lara the motion. Motion maker was councelor Delaney.>> Discussion on the motion. >> No discussion. All in favor say I. I.opposed. Motion passes. All right, we will move back to item 8A.Public hearing is open. And if you're ready, Mr. Kursky for>> Yes, Mayor. Thank you for your patience there. First, I'd like to introduceRebecca Kurtz, who's our new representative from Ellers, who um foryears we've been using Baker Tilly, but we've switched and she is our newrepresentative on the account and has been working on this project. So she'llbe here if there are any specific uh tax increment financing questions.So this is the Shakabe gravel pit redevelopment. This was Shakabe gravelback in the early 1980s. Much different looking than it lookstoday. This was [clears throat] excuse me inthe year 2000 uh when they were actively mining away in the pit. And this is whatit looks like today. Some of you remember these pictures. Um,a lot of residential right up against it. Uh, pretty significant falloff fromour road of up to 80 ft. And you can see here the how deep thepit really is. So, a little history. Pit was opened byanother entity in the 1980s. U, you all saw a concept plan in 2019 forresidential and industrial. Council approved a tiff plan in November of2024. The developers uh actually four of them abandoned the project because ofrisks. City completed a braw um study in 2025 which identified areas of unstablenot suitable soils. Uh they did not find any major contamination areas, just somepockets of contaminated materials. This was the plan you looked at back in2019. Up in the corner were two large industrial buildings, some residentialand some ponding. Uh this is the plan the city worked on.Uh we went to the legislature to get the uh legislation passedand this is the plan we have today. So currently the plan is a minimum of a$600 million investment um in order to generate the tiff. It hasspecial legislation from the state that expires at the end of the year if u tiffdistrict is not created. It does include the new 24 acre park, 155 single familyhomes, 74 detached town homes, 110 attached town homes, 530 plusapartments, a grocery store, approximately 100,000 square feet ofmedical and office space, and about 60,000 square feet of retail andrestaurants. This is kind of the more specific planthat you all approved. We have a preliminary plat done. Uh the newdeveloper has been working with its uh consultants and has made a few suggestedchanges. This is the park that was included. Bigger view of the project. And again, uh, one of the benefits ofworking on this project, we've been working with Shakabe Public Utilities,they did purchase the Hawkins property, which, uh, was a parcel that wasoriginally included in the TIFF, we removed from the TIFF. That will betheir new location for their water treatment facility. They'll also run allof their water line supply lines through the project. um stay out of CountyHighway 83 and Eagle Creek by running them through the neighborhood andthrough some of our trail system to get them to the site. The other benefit isum by keeping the lake in the design we had, it was uh they were able to reducethe amount of soils that need to be brought in.So this is the new kind of concept plan the developers looked at. Um, one of thethings staff has pointed out, we're probably going to where the apartmentsare in the middle there, flip that road around so it does not come off therotary road. So that would be a new public street that basically will have aloop road around the interior. Here's kind of a view of uh what they'reworking on right now. The biggest change here is a newroad that comes by Spucks Water Treatment Plant, comes down that hill.um all the other developers basically had figured that was going to be toodifficult to do. They've worked with their engineer and feel it's reallynecessary for the success of the retail particularly the grocery store to havethat access road um coming down from the main road. Some additional renderings that they'vecompleted. They've had significant interest in the retail area. We're stillworking with them on locating a grocery store. So, this is the view coming down thatnew road with the grocery store on your right and then the retail down below.So, if you remember, um, County Highway 83 drops 17 ft from the proposed accesspoint on the county road down to the corner. So, one of the things that thisallows um fewer retaining walls, but a better access point for the commercialarea. And this is a proposed office building.They're working with some potential medical office users.So, uh, right now looking at flipping and certifying the 4 million cubic yardscurrently in the site, uh, 2627, importing somewhere between 400,000 anda million cubic yards of new fill for 26 27 and 28, letting the site settlebetween 27 and 28. Beginning the construction of publicinfrastructure in 2028, constructing the public lake and stormwater pond from 27 through 29. building the city park from 27 to 28 and thenworking on building the project out over five to 10 years depending on themarket. They do have a uh letter of intent with a home builder who would doall of the products. That was one of their concerns. A lot of the homebuilders did not want to build town homes for instance or the detached townhomes. They have located a home builder who's willing to do all of the products.So tonight uh what we need to do is resend the tax incrementing plan taxincrement finance plan from 2024 adopt a new plan uh modify the city's interfundloan and then you'll see a contract for private development probably in July andstaff will be working with the developer uh ongoing on the commercial and retailtenants. >> Thank you. Questions for staff Mr.Whiting? So, we always knew there was going to be risks and we always knewthere was soil concerns. Um, did that change with the Brarawinspection or did it just certify it? >> Mayor and Council, I think it certifiedit. Um, and that's we didn't have that complete study done, but I think it justbasically certified that there were some pretty significant problems. The corneralong Eagle Creek, um the far corners would be the western corner has about 50ft of unstable soils up against those residential areas. So that for sure isgoing to have to come out and get either reused as top soil in the park or justtaken off site. I think one of the concerns even for the current developeris that as they get into it, you're not going to know whether you need the 400or the million until you really start moving soil around. Right now, there arenot that many projects going on in the Twin Cities. And you know, with the costof diesel right now, hauling soil is gets pretty expensive. The average truckI think is about 20 cubic yards. So, if you think about the thousands of trucksyou'll need to make even the 400,000 cubic yards, if it gets to a million,that number goes up exponentially. Plus, they're going to just have to waitlonger to try and find that fill. Um, they're actually taking in some fillright now that became available. Kind of at risk with because they haven't closedon the property yet because it's available and they need to stockpile onthe site because when it's available, you got to take it or go somewhere else.If I can continue. I got a couple more. Um, new developer. Did any of the I knowwe talked about the retail, but did the size of the public space change any? Didthe park get smaller? >> No. Mayor and council parks identical.The only thing that's really changed is they have done some retail development.The former company that was involved in it has since moved on and they tookanother look at it and said there's a that secondary road from talking toother retailers is absolutely critical. that road that comes down past thegrocery store because if you're a grocery store, you're driving down theroad and you'd be like, "How do I get there?" And so, you know, there are anumber of sites in the city when I first moved here, I was like, "How do you getto that spot?" They didn't feel they'd be able to attract any tenants. Um,particularly with a new project, unless they had that secondary road.>> I think it'd be important for fire safety, too. Getting a big truck inthere. Um, now what we're talking about tonight is changing the tiff to a soilstiff. Mayor Con always was a soil stiff. It's just a special category of soiltiffs that was passed by the legislature. It's the same tiff that wehad. >> Same tiff, just updating it uh for thenew developer or >> mayor and council. The big change is Ithink the original uh developer, if you remember, this started back in 2022, Ithink when they took it on. Um their estimate was a investment of about $350million. And that's why they couldn't make the numbers work because presentvalue of the tiff back then was about $19 million and no bank, no investorwould would do the project. So the second guy came in who was similar toour current developer and that it was a family office but the father wanted todo the deal but the two sons are going to inherit the company said we're notwilling to risk the whole company on this. I think the current developerhas done a project already here in Shaki. He did the amphitheater. He'sworked with engineering staff, with Shakabe public utilities, with ourstaff, the building staff. He feels pretty comfortable. It's still a bigrisk and he understands that, but I think he believes this is a reallycritical site that's either going to be a big hole or it's going to be aspectacular project for the city and he's rolling to roll the dice.>> Okay. Thank you, >> Mr. Delaney.>> Just a quick question. So the the tiff that we're I guess rescending that was$66 million for projected interest cost totals and this one's now.>> Council member, can you speak into >> Yeah. In a microphone, please.>> Sorry. >> Thank you.>> Just pull it up a little bit. There you go.>> So the original tiff was $66 million for projected project and interest costtotal. And so we're now changing that to 110 million.>> So So mayor and council again, the original value of the investment wasabout $350 million. an hour over 600. And again, the tiff really depends onthe developer building it out. It's not money we're giving them. It's moneythey're paying into the tax income and fund that they get back twice a year.So, if the project comes in at $500 million, that number will drop. I mean,it's in their best interest to get better quality building and productbecause it's going to help them recoup their risk. And I think that's why hewent with a home builder that has a really good reputation that's willing todo a different product for this site that they haven't done anywhere in theTwin Cities because they saw the opportunity. I think that's why he'sbeen out aggressively pursuing some retailers that want to come into thismarket that, you know, we're kind of retail site shy right at the moment.This is the last big site because I think he needs to get that number. Ithink the other thing is the number originallythe developer couldn't even recoup the reclamation costs at at that value andthat's why the last three developers walk because it's a big risk. I meanyou've got to put all that cash up front and it could be five or six years beforeyou get any return. >> Thanks. Thank you.>> More questions of staff before I have my laundry list.All right. First question. The last information I could find on this was theScott County lumber uh were shocking the appellet court and I think that was 83.Maybe it was 83. I've >> early 80s. Yep.>> Yeah. And uh that document says they were they were they were only to to minedown 10 to 25 ft. You're telling me it's 80t deep?>> Yeah. >> So first question is how does thathappen? Second is they were supposed to reclaim the property and they didn't. Sowhy are we not holding the property owner accountable to what they weresupposed to be doing? >> So mayor and council and I've had thediscussion with the city attorney can chime in because you read that case. Thecity lost that case and so >> the case we lost was not giving them apermit. They accepted their permit with conditions including 20 additionalconditions. >> So the city turned their permit down>> and the appellet court said we had to give them a permit.>> Yes. They accept they accepted our permit with conditions and including theadditional 20 conditions. >> And mayor and council, since that time,there's been other permits before you um that have been litigated. Andif you look at that original picture, they were just mining that corner. Inorder to mine the next section of land, they had to come back to the citycouncil and way before my time and some of your time, but they got a permit forthat. So then the next question is since thewhoever I don't know if it was the property owner or whoever the miningcompany was um they they basically dug a hole in thisproperty made money on selling the aggregate and then stepped back and saidnow this is somebody else's problem. Mayor and council, the state legislstate legislature changed the law after a lot of these mines that now you haveto reclaim them. But Apple Valley, Shakape, um three or four other citieshave all faced the same problem where Duckabe hole, but there was no fund setaside. The new law says if you're mining, it's got to be put back andreclaimed. That is not the current law. >> Okay. So, why wouldn't wetry to use the federal environmental uhwhat's the what's the name of that new law that was just passed? It's a federalenvironmental waiver for housing act on this project. Why wouldn't we bringthe state down and say here's what you created?We'll wait for you guys to help fix it. >> Mayor and council, I think you can dowhatever you want. Your choice is do you get a 600 plus million dollar investmentthe site cleaned up the payments back to that person basically are only caused bytheir development or do you leave a big hole?>> We could put a trillion dollar investment on that property until thedebt is paid off. Uh it it serves no benefit to to the taxpayers of Shaki.So, mayor and council, in year 20, that 600 million, which will then probably bea billion comes on the tax roles, >> right? But in until that happens, we'regoing to be supplying plow trucks, fire. They're not going to be paying into thefull-time fire department that we're we're now restructured and creating.They're not going to pay into any equipment fund or any capitalimprovement. Matter of fact, the roads that are going to be put in, by the timethis is over with, them roads will have so many improvements done and they wouldnot have paid anything into the capital improvement fund like the rest of thetaxpayers do. They won't be paying for any city services.And I don't see where the benefit to a taxpayers are is until 25 years, 20 25years later. >> So, and again, mayor and council, it'sworth about $5 million now in the tax roles. So you'll get 20 years of taxeson $5 million versus in year 21 you'll get taxes on about a billion dollars>> in what year? >> Year 2021 this comes back on the taxrules. The other thing is >> 2021 was five years ago.>> No, in 21 years. Sorry, in 21 years you get a billion dollars in the tax ro.Other thing is that for instance at Canterbury if there's any specialacceptance for for instance from the school district tiff properties stillpay that. So, >> well,>> the school district captured when they had to pass a new bond, they capturedthat value and they're paying, for instance, the>> beyond our tiff money, the triple crown apartments pay $400,000 a year towardsother assessments, >> but are we not capturing the county andthe school districts taxes over the next 21 years also? So these entities will beproviding services like the >> city may council only their existingtaxes. If there's any special levies they pass for additional revenue orcapital those go on the property. >> Right. They just passed a levy that thatwouldn't be included because this wasn't created.>> Correct. >> Okay. So they wouldn't be paying on thatlevy >> any future levy.>> Right. um at a time when the school districthas got unfunded mandates from the state and the county isgetting thrown under under the bus by the state basically for human services,social service programs and stuff and they're picking up them cost. Uh and nowthey're going to pick up these services to this development for the next 25years. Same with the school, same with the city, and receive no revenue forthat service. So the rest of us are going to have to pay more to these otherentities for these services for 20 years.>> So mayor and council, the school district benefits because the morestudents that they get paid by student. That's where they state funding perpupil student dollars, but that's not their only funding source. They getproperty taxes and everybody in shock knows that they pay their property taxestwice a year. >> Mr. Delaney,>> did we get feedback from Scott County and the school district on this? Did weget feedback from Scott County and school district on this tiff change?>> Mayor and council both this time and the first time and neither the county northe school district school district objected. >> Mr. Whiting,>> here's my counter to your conversation. Uh 20 years of a big hole in the ground,one kid falls off an 80 foot cliff. We'd be happy to pay that.>> It's not our property. >> So, um with that, um are you throughwith your presentation? It's pre you're premature. It's a public hearing, sowe're going to hear from the audience. >> Oh, yeah.>> Any other questions for staff? If you are here for this topic, it is apublic hearing. We'd love to hear from the public on the topic at hand. Ifthere's anybody here that would like to speak on this matter,please come on forward. Anybody?Seeing none, Mr. Make a motion to close the public hearing.>> Is there a second? Mr. Lara. >> Discussion on the motion.>> All in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. Mr. Whiting.>> So even with private property, if a kid falls off that hill,>> that's not our >> It's worth our It's still a uh it'sstill a concern for us as uh leaders of this community. So with that, I make amotion to approve resolution R2026-074, rescending the resolution numberR2024-17 and approving a tax increment financingplan for tax increment financing soil deficiency district number 22 andmodified redevelopment plan for the Minnesota River Valley Housing andRedevelopment Project number one. >> I'll second it.>> Is it second by councelor Contrarus discussion on the motion?>> I do have a comment. So, we're talking about the city giving, you know, thepermits and allowing this to pretty much happen. So, I think um of course beforeour time and I think this is our time to fix it and I I know and I understand Icompletely understand what you say and and but Mr. Kursky just said we're stillgoing to get the you know the taxes from what the value is currently. Yes. in 20years when it's worth a billion or whatever it's worth and and this isgoing to be phases. It's not going to be, you know, it's not all going tohappen because we still need all that, you know, dirt to set and all thatstuff, but it's the time for us to take care of it. And there are many um thingslike Mr. Whiting said that can happen and yes, they're they're not ourresponsibility, but I don't we're talking about lives that something couldhappen, you know. So I feel this is the moment for us to take someresponsibility and get this I mean there's someone who is willing to investinto it you know and and and take care of it. So I mean it's his money so>> they're getting reimbured for their investment off the taxes future taxesfrom the property >> right but you got to look you need toinvest to to to eventually in time take those fruits back. I mean, you don'tjust go and pick something. You have to, you know, plow the ground and put thetree in and then one day when it grows, you get the fruits back. So, it's likewe that's what we're doing right now. I don't understand. Sorry. That that'sjust >> You don't understand personalresponsibility. Somebody dug a great big hole in somebody else. We gave them totake care of it. We could say, "No, we don't have we don't have any obligationto do this. We're not we're not required to do this." We could say, "Nope, we'renot doing this. the property owner is going to sit on this property and say,"I can't sell it." Um, he's going to pay $8,500 a a year in taxes for the next 25years until the tiff district is paid off. His taxes are frozen. They willnever go up while everybody else's goes up. And this is extremely risky rightnow. The timing is couldn't be worse. So, but it is what it is. You know, Iunderstand where your vision is. We just have different worldviews and that'sfine. Um, it is what it is and that's why councils and bodies, commissionbodies and so on are made up of multiple members. The majority does its thing andand that's uh, you know, if the voters don't like it, they that's theirprerogative. So, all right, we do have a motion and a second.Any other discussion? Discussion. All in favor say I. I.>> All opposed. I. Motion pass three to two. All right. So that will bring us to item11A. Caught me off guard. We went from 8B to11A. 11 A is park and recreation annual report presentation.>> You missed number nine. >> PDA meeting. Oh, >> yes I did.All right. A motion to recess for economic development authority would bein order. Mr. Lara. >> So moved.>> Is there a second? >> Second.>> Second by Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion.>> Seeing none, all in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. Motion passes.>> Going to call to order the Tuesday, May 5th, 2026 meeting of the ShakabeEconomic Development Authority. Uh, please make note of the roleand we'll move on to item number two, approval of the agenda,>> member Layman. >> I'll make a motion to approve theagenda. >> Second.>> A motion and a second. Uh, all those in favor say I.>> I. >> I.>> We have an agenda. All right. We're going to move on to uhitem number three, consent business. Member Layman.>> I'll move the consent business. >> Second. Uh we have a motion and a secondthat includes the approval of the EDA meeting minutes. Uh any discussion ofthose meeting minutes? Discussion. Discussion. All those in favor say I. I.>> Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. We are on to item number four, generalbusiness. It's a change order from Gendler for additional views andexpansions of the Canterbury Study Area. Mr.>> Kursky. >> Sorry, I went too fast. [laughter] warming up.We do have the packet uh items in our packet if we have to go forward. I love technology, especially when itdoesn't work. All right. You have the packet.>> Do you want to put it under the camera? I mean, I can loan you my uh my uhagenda item if you want to put it on the camera.>> Oh, I have a zip. Hang on. >> Yeah. It's in the cloud. It's just a stormynight. >> Satellites.>> That's [laughter] right. >> What's the name of that chain that goesover Starlink? >> Starlink. Yeah, I haven't seen that, butI've seen pictures of it. Okay. There we go.>> There we go. I apologize. >> Okay. Sorry.>> All right. Continue >> technology.So, um we did work with Canterbury and Gendzor and Hunden partners on the firstphase. So, this was their visioning for uh Canterbury Park. So, they looked at acreating a multi-season entertainment hub, all day everyday activity, a placefor big moments, looking at horse racing as a unifying concept in transformingand honoring the past. So kind of here were some of the itemsthey looked at and how uh they could be combined. So one of the items we alreadyhave a major entertainment anchor with the amphitheater and one of the thingswe need is a destination hotels. They looked at a spa and medium banquetfacility and what could complement that. And then these are the themes that theyworked on. So looking at insta collectors, cultural chasers, night outcrowd, um pamper crew, leisure loyalists, night out players, um socialweekenders. So how do we get people to come to Shakape? Um and spend more thanjust a moment here. So these were some of the things theylooked at is art festivals, movie nights, watch parties, curling festival,winter lights festival, yoga in the plaza, local brewery festival. So these are some of the they looked atother things from the Hunden report. So, howthey could activate the space and one of the things was we already have an 800plus um car park that was built for the amphitheater that if you remember fromour agreement when the amphitheater is not using that that is um free citypublic parking. How do we take advantage of that and make this really a walkableneighborhood? So, this is the site we're talking abouthere. Um, it's basically 28 plus acres includingthe parking lot. Here's the amphitheater. What we're talking abouttonight then is extending kind of the vision to complete this area because aswe've been talking to people, everybody's asking what happens to thebarns, what happens here, how can we create a bigger anchor in the corner. Sothat would be the last phase of the Gendler contract.So here it looked at circulation and then here it's really not that farto walk. So five minute walk basically that's a 10-minute walk and that's a 15minute walk. So get to the next. So these were thenumbers that um Hunden partners came up with that could be served in the marketin two phases. So looking at the project as two phases. Phase uh one would havesome parking temporarily. Phase two parking over here. So, this is what thesite renders out as. So, this is the existing um city-owned parking lot.There's the amphitheater. So, you have a major anchor in the middle, which wouldbe a destination hotel, office buildings around the outside with some mixed use,and then multifamily housing. Because one of the things I think Hundenlearned, and what we've all learned is without a regular kind of boots on theground here, these type of spaces can't survive. There's nobody going out on aTuesday night to dinner or a bar or restaurant or an event unless you havepeople actually living here. So really creating a different type of experiencehere with a hotel that's just basically not currently in the market.So this was the phase one kind of concept. Another big piece was honoringthe horse history. So, um, Randy Samson, you know, has been involved in thistrack for many years. He bought in, I think, pretty quickly to how do we honorthe tradition of, you know, horses being a Canterbury and kind of bring it intothe neighborhood and make it an attraction. This is kind of project built out.We get to some images. So, these were some of the things they looked at, youknow, in the horse racing trade. colors, um, some of the activity that occurs,you know, how can you generate that kind of idea with the big screen, um, thatthey have at Canterbury and then public spaces, you know,looking at some precedents nationwide that have been pretty successful. How dowe incorporate those into Canterbury? And how do we have an architecture thatdoesn't basically mimic Canterbury, but really represents some kind of newmaterials, but also honors kind of the past of the brick history in Shakipi.So, here's kind of how the vision took shape.They did add in a little extra roof to the amphitheater, but umI think the next piece is going to look kind of at this corner and then all theway down to the practice track. Um because we do have space for additionalbarns in this area. And I think everyone's dream is this is not thehighest and best use here to really continue this project down.But walkable Main Street was one of the big drivers. And then this is kind ofthe big aha moment. Um, so this would be a new uh best-in-class hotel with apublic plaza here, a hall over here that would have other events, a food hall.Um, but basically a big gathering space and could show football games, horseracing, like the Kentucky Derby could have been up on this big screen thispast weekend. >> And again, settingWe have a really cool video that we could play, but it won't play in here.Um, but bringing the horses kind of into events and parties. So, one of thethings we've talked about is if there's a groom's men night out or bridal partynight out, bringing them over here, engaging them in the horse area. Thiswas a wedding that they proposed and then really making it a year-rounddestination. And so being able to convert that plaza, this is a hill thatwas a sitting hill during the summertime, could be a sledding hill, anice rink potentially, um, one of the Christmas marts, you know, booths alongthe back, really making this a destination location. They took a lot ofideas from Title Town in Green Bay, which is kind of a similar site, butthey really densified it by including kind of a larger hotel and moreresidential. And so, basically, this is kind of whatit would look like at night. So, again, the next phase is going to really comein on this corner and then look at the rest of this real estate. Happy to answer questions. Oh yeah, go ahead, Mr. Layman.>> Thank you, Mr. President. U question. We'reare we going to really I mean we really need to take a look at traffic the firstseason with the amphitheater. Um>> so let me just jump forward because I have one more comment, mayor. So as partof this they need to do an AU. So, um, we'll be bringing that back to you oncewe get a final proposal from SRF, who did the original traffic study for theamphitheater. They plan on doing traffic counts during on a day when Canterburyboth has live racing and a soldout concert. They're going to look at thetraffic patterns. >> Well, I'm I'm kind of, Mr. President,I'm kind of looking at it from two aspects. one iswhat's being proposed and how it functions at the same time that thetrack and amphitheater is going on and then because really in the winter timewhen the other two things aren't happening I it's not an issue. So Ireally think it's going to be the peak winter or summertime. Yeah, that's that's really my concern.And we don't really know until we get through a season of concerts at theamphitheater. And I know there's going to be some bugs. That's kind ofexpected, but it's just a lot of capacity all at once.Any else questions of staff? >> I guess I didn't expect all thismultifamily. Um, but understanding that this is aentertainment district, a social district, uh, I still remember what thevice president of Goodwill said when he came, "Where's my where's my rooftops?"You know, you need people >> to create a a saturation for retail anduh, for all of these other spaces. Now, the hotel is going to be driving itself,I think, but that's a lot of multifamily in there. Um, I understand it, but itwasn't what I envisioned. Um, >> so, so, mayor and council, the otherthing is on that multifamily, and we I'll have to send you a link to thevideo because it showed us better. Um, there's retail and restaurants on thefirst floor. So, the multif family is above that on a podium. And it's not asmuch as you think. So, if you think triple crown is about 620 units, it'sabout similar over the entire site. >> Okay. So I think one of the thingsthey're going to look at kind of that phase is do you do a second hotel kindof as the next phase because the first hotel I think particularly when there'smultiple events going on it's going to fill up. I think it's only 150 rooms. So>> no that that makes a definitely makes a difference to the commissioner layman.>> Mr. President, what's do we know what the size and capacity of the hotel is inthis concept plan? >> It's about 150 rooms. chamber will like that.>> Well, I mean for for what's out there, you're right. We're going to need morehotel space at house. >> Yeah, but I think this isn't going to bephased and it's going to develop over time and multif family could be changedto a hotel in that situation and talking about the next site over too.>> Uh, anybody else have any comments or concerns? >> What's the wishes of the commission?Commissioner Contrarus. >> Thank you. U president. Um I'd like tomake a motion to approve change order with Gendler for 55,000 with the costsplit 50/50 with Canterbury Development. >> I'll second motion on the floor.Seconded by Commissioner Lara. Uh discussion. Commissioner Layman.>> Mr. President, is it 110,5 will be the city's portion and 55 willbe um Canterbury Developments portion or the total?Total split 50/50. >> Okay.>> More discussion. Discussion. Discussion. All those infavor say I. >> I.>> Any opposed? >> All right. Congratulations. We got a newplan. Uh, all right. We got another great item on the agenda tonight. Uh,4B. Mr. Kurski. [clears throat] I'll make a motion to open the publichearing. >> Mr. Lara, thank you. We have a motion tosecond to open the public hearing. It is public hearing.>> Uh any discussion, discussion, discussion. All those in favor say I. I.>> Any opposed? >> All right. We have our public hearingopen. Mr. Kursky, >> chair and commissioners, samepresentation you just saw two minutes ago. We just um typically bring it tothe city council and the EDA and we've done that historically.Commissioner Layman, you want repeat or comment?>> I already made my comments. I think it's very risky and it's>> this is a public hearing. Is there anybody would like to make comment onthis uh TIFF presentation? Get one more two more chances publichearing. It's your time to talk about this uh discussion on the the TIFFdistrict for the quarry. One more chance. Public hearing. Allright. What's the wishes of the council? Commissioner Contrarus.>> Make a motion to close the public hearing.>> Motion is seconded by Commissioner Delaney. Uh discussion. Discussion.Discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? We are clo public hearingis closed. What is the wishes of the commission? Commissioner Contrarus. Makea motion to adopt resolution number E2026-00002rescending resolution number E 2024-006 and approving the tax incrementfinancing soil deficiency plan for district number 22 and the modifiedredevelopment plan for the Minnesota River Valley Housing and RedevelopmentProject number one. >> I'll second.>> We have a motion and a second. Uh any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. Allthose in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? I>> passes 3 to two. We are on to item 4 C amendment to the interfund loan for tiffdistrict 22. Mr. Kurski uh president and commission members. Uhso the uh the agenda item is basically a resolution to amend the interfer fundloan from 300,000 to 600,000 for the gravel pit tiff which was just recentlyapproved. Uh so this would allow us to reimburse um any staff time anyconsultant time between now and when we get um receive our first t tax incrementwith tax increment funds. >> So a follow-up item from the discussionwe just had. Any questions of staff? Commissioner Layman.>> Mr. President. Um, in the memo it says you're adding you're increasing this toto 600,000 authorization and to be paid withEDA general fund or other eligible sources. So, what would other eligiblesources be? um really could be any any city fund,but we um the intention would be to spend the money upfront out of the EDAfund and then re be reimbursed um back to the EDA from the TIFF admin.So interfan structured would be 10%or 7% interest if it was an inner fund loan.>> Um that that is correct. >> And what inner funds would that be?Okay. So, it would be the gravel pit tiff. So, tiff 22 and the EDA.So, >> the the original expenses would come outof the EDA since we don't have increment at this point in time.>> Right. >> Um but when we receive increment in 20302031 once it starts generating increment that would be then reimbured to the EDA.>> Right. But when when it says inter fund loan I'm thinking ofstorm water fund, sewer fund. Um, well that it would be the EDAgeneral fund. >> Do you happen to know how much is in theEDA general fund? >> Um, not off the top of my head, but >> any further questions?Mr. Delaney, you had a question? >> I think it might have been answered. Iwas curious. The money to pay this back is>> I think it's already been been answered. Yeah.>> Any uh further questions of staff? >> What's the wishes of the body?>> Commissioner Lara, >> I make a motion to approve resolutionE2026-003 authorizing the additional interfundloan and increasing the total authorization to 600,000.>> Second. >> A motion and a second. Uh discussion.Discussion. Discussion. All those in favor say I. I.>> I. Opposed. >> I.>> Passes four to one. All right. Next on our agenda is the EDAbill list. Is there any questions about the bills?>> None for me. >> None. >> Seeing none, we'll move on. Umlook for a motion to adjurnn to June 2nd, 2026 at 7 p.m. CommissionerContrarus, >> I'll make that motion to adjurnn to June2nd, 20 26 at 7 p.m. >> A motion.>> I'll second >> and a second. Uh all those in favor sayI. >> I. Please stand adjourn.>> Thank you. >> All right. We'll reconvene the Shakicity council meeting now and we will move to 11A park and wreck annual reportpresentation and if it takes a couple of minutes toI'll tell you what, let's take a short recess and that'll give you time to makesure the technology is up to speed. >> I'll make a motion to recess for 10minutes. >> Second.>> Seconded by councelor Contrarus. Discussion. All in favor say I.>> I. opposed. Motion passes. We're in recess for 10 minutes. Item 11A, park and recck annual reportpresentation by a park and recck director director.>> Good evening, mayor and council members. Um, tonight I am here to give you ourannual report for the parks and recreation department for 2025. Um, so when I look back as I was puttingthis together, I really kind of articulated that 2025 was a year ofgrowth and change for the parks and recreation department. It was the yearthat we made intentional change to ensure long-term financialsustainability, service quality, and system resilience through variousdifferent policies that we brought forward to council. uh standardoperating procedures that we developed to help us internally um and ultimatelyset our department up for long-term success no matter who holds whatpositions in it. So, one thing I have to highlight firstis last year we opened the newly renovated Sand Venture Aquatic Park. Umwe almost didn't open it on time. We had some pretty challenging issues right aswe were getting ready to open, but fortunately we're able to open on timeand get everything fixed. Um, one thing that we did in 2025, we we brought itforward to council in 2024, but we um significantly changed the pricingstructure of San Venture. Um, we simplified daily admission and made it aresident and non-resident fee, which we had never had the resident andnon-resident fee before. Um, and we increased the prices of our seasonpasses and our punch cards fairly significantly because we hadn't had anincrease in so long. Um, so knowing that that was going to be potential a littlebit of a sticker shock to our residents, one thing we did was we offered a 25%off for 2025 uh pirate day promotion at the community center on April 25th. Um,the goal of this was to get the resident and the residents and the communitycommunity excited about San Venture opening. give them this opportunity toget this great discount to come utilize the facility. And that day, we sold$117,25 worth of season passes and punch cards,which achieved 31% of our revenue target for 2025 in that single day. Um, so thatkicked us off for a successful season right away. Um that day we sold 893season passes and punch cards combined. Um which was 138% increase um from 2023since we were not open in 2024. So I felt like that really set the stageknowing that the community was excited about this pool to reopen. Um, SandVenture ended its 2025 season achieving a cost recovery percentage of 61%.Which is very unique for outdoor pools. Usually, it's significantly lower. Um,having Tommy's Malt Shop as our partner operating the concessions just created alot less staff time in that operation and community members and residents andeven non-residents that visited the pool had I think just a better high qualityconcession option which was awesome as well. Um, Sand Venture was featured onShane Wells, Kristen Stewart and Ian Leader news segments um, last year. Sodespite our rainy June, I think we had 16 or 17 rain days um last season, theour inaugural [snorts] season of therenovated pool went very well. All right, so you all have probably seenthis slide before. uh Bill Egan and I I think it was about this time last yearpresented on the progress for our uh various accreditation efforts. So forparks and recreation that's our CAPRPA accreditation which stands for thecommission um for agencies oh gosh a commission foraccredited park and recreation agencies. Uh so when we presented this to um youall last last year, I think it was in April, we were still working on our selfassessment that was completed and submitted in January of 2025.Our Kapper team reviewed it. They got us feedback. We provided them additionalinformation. And so we are actually today and tomorrow, our Kapper team ishere um for our on-site visit. Um, so I just want to take a moment and recognizeour three team members. Um, our CAPRPA review team is all volunteers. Theyvolunteer their time uh to the our national agency to come out and performthese reviews and review all the material beforehand.Um, so at its core, Kappa accreditation is about ensuring we're operating at thehighest standards in how we plan, manage our resources, and ultimately serve ourcommunity. It's industry best practices. Um, the work that I'm going to continueto talk about that we worked on through 2025 from our policies and procedures toour department restructure was done intentionally to align with thesestandards and strengthen how we operate long term and how we ultimately serveour community. Through this process, we've demonstrated compliance withapproximately 96% of the Kapper standards, which reflects a very highlevel of operational alignment. Most importantly, this work greater ins orensures greater accountability um both to the council and our community, moreconsistent service delivery, and a strong stewardship of public resources.It has been a true team effort, not just within our parks and recreationdepartment, but the city as a whole, uh, finance, HR, public works, engineering,planning and development. Today, we spent a good portion of our day um,touring the various uh, recreation facilities and our parks,public works department, and city hall. So, it's really truly been about settingthe groundwork for long-term sustainability and to ensure ourultimately our community and our residents that we are operatingwithin the best practices. So, one of the things that we did in2025 was we developed quite a few policies.These were all the various policies that were brought forward to uh the councillast year. Um our comprehensive revenue policy that sets strategic pricing forhow we price our programs and services. We brought forward the outdoor facilityuse policy, our temporary advertising and sponsorship. um our recreationprogram plan, which is a day-to-day document on how we operationalizoperationalize our park and recreation master plan and really helps staff atall levels of the parks and recreation department implement those initiativeson a day-to-day basis. We put together a community center fee structure to putsome more strategy and consistency with our pricing. Um, again, that'll be amulti-year plan to get us to where we ultimatelyneed to be. And then the modification andenhancement of city facilities. That's ultimately a city-wide policy, but theparks and recreation department had a pretty significant part in putting thattogether. And that has streamlined operations not only for parks andrecreation, but for public works, planning and development, andengineering. So that's been a huge um thing that has just made staff time moreefficient and more efficient process for our residents. Um some other things we worked on in2025 more on the standard operating procedure development. We worked onputting together a succession plan, which this just outlines when variouspositions in our department are going to be out of the office, whether it's for avacation or a long-term leave, who steps into that that role in the interim, andmaking sure that that person is trained and cross-trained and knows what to doin the event that that happens. kind of on that same playing field, wehave our procedures and operations handbook, which just outlines how staffare expected to operate in our department and handle things on aday-to-day basis. A lot of the stuff that's in this handbook is also in theemployee handbook, but we go through things like basic customer serviceexpectations um and all of that in that handbook aswell. So, that's been hugely helpful when we're onboarding new staff members,whether it's part-time or full-time. And then we had we modified ouremergency action plan uh to encompass the new sand venture layout, thecommunity center, and the ice arena. And then finally, we put together ourprograms and events weather procedures. As you all know, in Minnesota, weathercan change on a dime. Um, so this just put together some guiding practices forstaff to determine how to handle outdoor programs in various weather situations. All right. And one of the big thingsthat we did towards the end of 2025 was we did a departmental restructure at themanagement level. This came to council on our very last meeting um in Decemberand then went into effect on January 12th of this year. So what this reallydid is it took the same resources that we were already utilizing from astaffing structure and rearranged it to provide more support for the staff belowthem and ensuring that each major facility and division within ourdepartment has a dedicated manager. And it's now May, which is crazy, but we'vebeen in this structure for a little less than half a year. And the difference hasbeen tremendous. Um, I meet with staff that are not my direct reports once aquarter and the feedback I'm getting is that they're feeling more supported.They know who to go to and coupled with our succession plan. When we havesomeone out, they then also know who their next point of contact is. Um, aspart of this, we also establish an assistant director position. um whichjust helps for like if I'm out of the office or in a meeting there's someoneelse that's clearly the next person to go to. So this has been it ensures thatevery area of our department has leadership support and accountability todeliver these highquality services that we want to make sure that we aredelivering to our community. All right. So now we're going to talknumbers. Um, in 2024, the overall cost recovery for our department was about51%. In 2025, that came up to 62%.Our goal with our comprehensive revenue policy and how we price our services isto ultimately get to 75%. So, while we're a little ways from there, we'remaking good progress towards that goal. Um, and just for comparison,um, according to the National Park and Recreation Recreation Association,the average for park and wreck departments is a 27% cost recovery. Soeven though we're not quite to that 75% goal yet, um, we're significantly aboveaverage with regards to cost recovery, which just signals, you know,that we're very financially responsible.in our practices as far as pricing our programs and services, monitoringexpenses and all of that. Okay. So, taking us away from thenumbers for a little bit, I just want to highlight some programs and differentthings that happened in 2025 that I think make a community impact. Um, so2025 was the first year that we implemented what we call our parkpassport program. This is a free program for residents um over the summer and thegoal is to really get our community out into our parks and to explore andexperience the all the various different park amenities that Shakipi has tooffer. Um so that was a very popular program that happened first year waslast year. We're planning to do it again and we already have I think 50 peoplesigned up for it. Um we partnered with the um schooldistrict and we had a CAPS intern um this last session and Emma who was ourCAPS intern really worked on putting together a umformational packet aboutparks and recreation, the community center, umeverything it has to offer. And then the goal was to partner with um realators tohave them give this packet to new residents when they purchase a home sothat they immediately have that information and they can start gettinginvolved. Um this is we just wrapped up our third year of our AOA resource fairwhich is a free event um to our active older adults. We bring in vendors fromum [clears throat] different city departments to the county to uhbusinesses like All Saints. We have estate planning and various otherservices and it's free for them to attend and just get like a wealth ofinformation. Um our AOA program coordinator started this in 2025 andit's only gotten increasingly popular. it just our one for 2026um just just completed um last week. So that's a great event that we're offeringas well. We opened um alongside our planning and development department inengineering and public works. two new parks in 2025 are Jackson Commons Parkand the Mary'stown um dog agility course, which the formal grand openingwill be this Saturday um at 10:30 along with our Bark in the Park event. Andfinally, we brought back our very long long ago event, which was ourJacko'Lantern 5K. Um, and it was very rainy and very cold, but it was a greatevent and something that we're really excited to continue and bring back. So, as we look into 2026, one of our biggoals is to hopefully get receive our Kappa accreditation. Um, and once ifwe're able to achieve that, we're not done. So, accreditation is every fiveyears. So, making sure that we're staying up on the practices that we haveimplemented um in order to achieve that accreditation will be key. Making surethat as the community grows that we expand our programs and servicesstrategically, that we're consistently monitoring our revenues and ourexpenditures to making sure that we're moving that cost recovery goal in theright direction. Um, and that we're doing so with strategic and consistentprocesses in order to do that. And then lastly, to ensure that we'realways continuing to align with the best practices of our industry. I feel likethat is the best way for us to serve our community and to give them a park andrecreation department and various offerings that they can be proud of. Andthat is all I have for you today. Um, and I'm happy to stand for questions.>> Questions of staff? >> Mr. Whiting? Not a question, but I justwant to congratulate you on your cost recovery being over double what thenational average is and moving towards that. Uh, you know, it's not meant toit's a it's a civic it's a project, I guess. It's a parks and wreck from thecity. It's not meant to be a you know, a cost center for us, I guess. So, uh umso congratulations on moving towards that direction. So, thank you.>> Any other questions of staff? questions. >> Uh you mentioned your three uh CAPRPArepresentatives. Are any of them here tonight?>> Yes. So we have Austin, Katie, [clears throat] and Tez in the back.Austin comes to us from Indianapolis. Um Katie is from Virginia and Tez is fromAtlanta. So the Minnesota weather delivered today as we were out and aboutin the parks. >> Welcome.>> Yeah, welcome to Shaki. I hope you enjoyed your time here and uh if youhave any questions for us, don't feel feel free to reach out. Um the questionI have for uh Kelsey is [snorts] are we able to get information from them also?What's going on in other areas? Not Shockby, but outside of Shock, whatdifferent things different people are doing.>> We can um we can certainly put something together um to give you a littlecomparison. Um, our self assessment is actually up on our city website. So,anyone can go up onto our website under recreation and look at what we what thestandard is, what we submitted for evidence of compliance. But I'd be happyto work with them to put something together to give you a comparison to>> Well, I guess what I'm kind of asking is I'm guessing and I don't know this thisis maybe their area, but other parts of the countries might have differentrecreational things. >> Yes, absolutely. than than our climateand you know what trends are they seeing in different areas some areas around usuh that are kind of similar in weather patternsum I I'm just it's a curiosity thing more than anything else so but is that ais that something that we get out of being a part of this process?>> Yes, absolutely. >> Okay.>> Um I actually didn't know this but talking to them today. So, when youvolunteer to be a CAPRA um reviewer, you don't get to review an agency within thestate that you live in. So, they strategically place you or send you to alocation that you don't live in, which I didn't know and thought that was veryinteresting. >> It is. I mean, I'm just curious, what'sthe big big recreational things in California?>> Yep. you know, >> kind of for California, but>> I know some of that might be surfing, right? They got the they got the ocean,but >> yes, and I would say pickle ball'sprobably popular everywhere. I'd go out on a limb to say that today. Um 10 yearsago, maybe not, but today I would. >> Well, I I hope I hope they enjoyedthemselves in Shockby. We certainly have a lot to offer. We're we're verydiversified with our offerings and we're constantly, you know, taking a look ateverything and trying to stay up with the trends for sure. Um, it's died downa little bit on the trend craze, but it always seems to pop up and new things,you know. >> Yes.>> Mr. I didn't think of a question. So, with your kappa review, they'll supplyus with a report on where we exceeded where we might need to work on thingslike that. Will you be coming back and presenting that to us then? Yes, I will.So, um they're going to wrap up their visit tomorrow. So, then they compile areport and they send it off to um the staff within NRPA that does CAPRA andthen at the end of September, we will go to what they call um a CAPA hearingwhere they will talk about where our our strengths are in our self- assessmentand areas for improvement. Um so, once we have that, then I will come back inthe next council meeting. I will put that on the agenda and we can do apresentation on that. >> We can decide if we make that publicthen. [laughter] >> Nice.>> Well, very nice work. Uh, thanks for coming. We appreciate it. Love to enjoyyour feedback and I'm sure you're gathering some information from whatwe're doing here that you can use elsewhere also. So, good uh good stuffgoing on. >> Thank you very much.>> Thank you. Thank you very much. Just want to make sure I didn't log backinto >> Okay. F11B final plat of High View Park, sixth edition. >> I recognize this parcel.>> Yeah. He's getting good on those powerful.>> Go ahead, sir. Floor is yours. >> Mayor and council, again, this is thefinal plat of High View Park 6th edition. Fourstar USA Real Estate Groupowner and applicant has proposed the final plat of High View Park 6th editionlocated south of County State Highway 78 and west of Zumbro Avenue. This is thesixth phase of the development consisting of 29 single family homes.Four stars partner with Dear Horton and the home starts have been strong withHigh View Park subdivision. Their proposal is consistent with the compplan guiding and zoning density requirements and the developer wouldpropose homes compliant with the design and performance standards for the R1Bzoning district. So this is the final plat.You can see they've already graded it out under their preliminary plat. Soright now they're final platting that insert a area which is that 29 homes.So here is the actual final plat. So we ask you approve resolutionR2026-71 approving the final plat of High ViewPark 6th edition. >> Any changes from the preliminary plat?>> No sir. >> Questions for staff? Wishes of councel. >> Mr. Whiting.>> Make a motion to approve resolution R 20226 tax 071 approving the final plotof park sixth edition. >> Is there a second? Councelor Contrarus.>> Thank you. >> Discussion on the motion.>> Discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all in favor say I.>> Opposed. >> Motion passes. Thank you, Mr. Kursky.Item 11 C was removed from the agenda and we'll come back at a future meeting.12 leazison reports. Um I think I started here last time, didn't I? Sowe'll start over here. Mr. Delaney. >> Okay.Sh public utility commission. They are financial audit completed. Itkicked off on 12 January and concluded on 20 March. There were no findings anda little exciting here. For the ninth successive year, our utility receivedthe certificate of excellence and reliability.Uh that's uh we consistently outperform other utilities. I believe we have aboutan 18.52 minute average interruption per customer. Most utilities have about 119minutes. So we're definitely there. Um they take a proactive approach towardreducing the out the outings outages um whether it's through the wildlife,vegetation or or weather. Um pretty much they have a pole inspection program. umalso have an active tree trimming policy. So, congratulations to ourutility for continuing to provide this outstanding service and achieving thisreli reliability benchmark year after year. Um other than that, the uh citycleanup day, that's always a great event. Residents enjoy it. It's uh somewish that would come later in the day. Usually, there's a big pile up in themorning, but some are wising up to showing up later to beat the earlymorning rush. And this Thursday, National Day of Prayer, um if you'reparticipating, there's all kind of events in the area. So that's it.>> Mr. Dwighty, >> thank you. On Wednesday the 29th, we hadthe MVTA meeting. Um we discussed uh moving forward on our uh becoming adirect recipient from the federal government rather than take our chunkfrom Met Council. So that's moving forward. We also had a title six reportuh that has to do with equity in transit. So, um, things like, uh, youknow, not putting the worst buses in the poorest neighborhoods, things like that.It's all equity and shared. Uh, takes a look at complaints and concerns againstTitle Six. And we, uh, ended up doing pretty well on that. Um, we're also, wealso discussed the transportation network pilot for our uh, connectservice. That's the on call service. So, um, what we're going to be piloting, andthis has not been approved yet. It's coming back in our next meeting. But uhutilizing Uber and Lyft when the time for getting the connect reaches acertain point in you know a length of time where it's going to be a concernmaybe it's 20 minutes or something it would auto the system wouldautomatically dispatch a Uber or lift driver and uh be subsidized throughthat. >> So how would you hand are they going toscreen if it's somebody with a mobility issue?>> That would be that would have to be part of it. Yeah. mobility issues would haveto be handled with the the services that can handle that. Um, but if it's just ageneral connect ride, uh once you start getting into a 45 minute to an hourride, then it becomes more burdensome and people aren't going to use theservice. Um, so then we'll be looking at that pilot and seeing if it was of valueuh uh to the to the service and helps maintain the service. Uh and it also uhtakes away a little bit of the argument from the Uber and Lift drivers uh thatthe MVTA connect is taking work away from them if we partner with them.>> Who would be be the would they be subcontracted by MVTA? So who would bethe ultimate responsible party? >> It would be uh I mean depending on theyou know if you're talking about a driver situation.>> Well I call we can do >> I call MBTA for the ride. They send mean Uber or a Lyft. Is the Uber or the Lift the responsibleparty or is MVTA the respons same costs too. So you wouldn't bepaying the full cost but it would be within thatgeneral area of the MVTA connect. So uh this is just a pilot program taking alook at how we can uh reduce some of those weight times.>> Fill the gaps. >> Yep. Exactly. Fill the gaps. We also hada wrership report that showed a increase in connect service up 19.54%over last year. So that's good. Um we had a uh included in that wrershipreport was our partnerships um for different concerts. There's a whole listof concerts we uh helped to work with. Minnesota United uh Vikings golfersshakabe Lions Ice golf they had a a bus out there for that. So, they're doing alot within the the cities and communities that we're in umto help some of those uh concerns that we have for in need of transit. I dohave the annual report. If anybody's interested in taking a look at that or Ican leave that with staff and uh that's about all I have.>> All right. If you could get a copy of that to staff, that'd be great. I'd liketo read it over. Uh councelor Contrarus. >> Thank you, mayor. My only um report iscleanup day. That was a great success. So that was really good.>> Thanks for your awesome free labor, Mr. Lara.>> Uh same. I uh attended the cleanup day on the 25th. It was not sunny. It wasrainy as per so lied to. We were deceived>> in my section. It was sunny and 70°. I don't know where you guys were.[laughter] >> It's underneath the water.>> But it's always good to see a great turnout for that. Um the complimentsthat we get as cars come through just hearing their feedback of thank you fordoing this. This is great. Um, so it's it's just yeah, it's a great event toget out and uh talk to a bunch of different people. So>> mine is uh HOA bill was approved at the state andyou know a couple of calls from some of our representatives and senators andstuff and really we don't have the direct concerns of HOAs that othershave. the the concerns that we do have I raised and they were included in thebill. And our concerns are really that if if if you have an HOA development andthey're building private streets or a community structure of some sort,outdoor pool, whatever, that's that's available not only for the HOAcommunity, but for the general public, then uh they have to have the the fundsavailable to maintain them uh them structures or them them outdoorthings that uh everybody can use. The other problem was same with the roads. Imean, we've all seen seen it in the past where you have private roads and theycome forward after the road's 30 years old and shot and find out they got torebuild it and they didn't save up for it and now they want to now they wantcity streets all of a sudden. Uh both of them issues were addressed in the bill.So, I was pretty pretty happy of that. Um they're trying to give a lot morerights to the homeowners at the same time. Uh they did put some stuff inabout meeting structure, uh documentation of budgeting, these typesof things that you would expect to to be there anyway, right? Um so that's good.They laid some framework down. I haven't found out yet where the electric bikebill is and how that's moving forward. I we certainly would like to see someimprovements on that. Um and we'll see. There's talk of possibly a licensing ofsome sort, kind of like a bicycle to where there's your opportunity when youget that licensing to give that educational piece on what you have andwhere it can be used and how it can be used and what the rules are. I thinkthere is some confusion out there about that. So, keeping a handle on some ofthat stuff and that's the extent of my report for today.Anything else, Mr. Reynolds? >> Nothing for me, sir. 12A city bill list.>> No questions. >> The turbo is more expensive than theturbo actuator. Um 11Bthere's a bill in there for a turbo actuator. 1,300 bucks. And that's uh>> it's probably a heavier piece of equipment. The uh turbos themselves arepretty spendy. >> Um they can't have another turbo.>> Yeah. Um 12B news and announcements.>> Who did it last time? >> I'll take one.>> Go ahead. >> Uh Sand Venture sale Friday, thisFriday, May 8th. Get 10% off season passes and punch cards online and at thecommunity center all day. Pick up a scratch off ticket in person at thecommunity center for a chance to win even more discounts.>> Nice. Councelor Contrers. >> Yep. Bark in the park. Um the ShakabeParks and Recreation Department annual Bark in the park event will be happeningin conjunction with the grand opening of the Mary's Town Agility Park on uhSaturday, May 9th from 10 to noon. This uh free event will celebrate theofficial opening of Shakupi's newest dog park. Dogs are welcome and encouraged toattend with their owners as well. >> Very good. Cer waiting.Shakabe Social District is open on May 1st, 2026. The Shakabe Social Districtofficially reopened for the season. >> All right, grab your cups. Hit the road.The sidewalks. >> Mine Mind the rules. Hand uh here. Well,>> if you want to look at it, go ahead. >> All right. Can I give staff? Then>> give it to staff. Yeah. >> All right. Um item 13. Any otherbusiness? wishes councel Mr. Anybody>> make a motion to adjourn to May 19th 2026 at 7 p.m.>> Second by Mr. Lara, he had his hand up earlier.>> Oh, sorry. Fine. >> Discussion hearing none. [snorts] All infavor say I. >> I.>> Opposed. Motion passes. We're adjourned. >> Thanks everyone.