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[0:03] Welcome to the Grovecast, a municipal
[0:06] podcast hosted by the city of Cottage
[0:08] Grove. We are here to demystify city
[0:11] government, make it more accessible to
[0:13] you, while also showcasing the real
[0:16] human beings who work every day
[0:18] providing services to our residents. As
[0:21] always, I'm your co-host, uh, Phil
[0:23] Jensent, the city's communications
[0:25] manager.
[0:25] >> Hey everyone, and I'm Emily Schmidz,
[0:27] the, uh, co-host as well. the city's
[0:30] community development director.
[0:31] >> You're the co-host.
[0:32] >> I am.
[0:32] >> You're still the co-host.
[0:33] >> Still.
[0:34] >> You still You keep coming back. So,
[0:35] thank you for that.
[0:36] >> Yeah, I think it's a whole year. Phil,
[0:37] [laughter]
[0:38] >> has it been a year?
[0:39] >> I don't know.
[0:40] >> I think we're at episode eight or nine
[0:41] or something. I jumped the gun a little
[0:43] bit. No, it's close. We're close.
[0:44] >> Close. Yeah. Time flies when you're
[0:46] having fun. It has been fun.
[0:47] >> We talked to some awesome people, Phil.
[0:49] >> We really have. We've had some good
[0:50] episodes. I think we're going to have a
[0:51] really good episode today, if I can say
[0:53] so myself.
[0:54] >> Don't spoil it too quick.
[0:56] >> So, thank you for, you know, coming
[0:57] back, Emily. Thanks to everyone who's
[0:59] been listening and sending in questions
[1:01] and what have you. We do really
[1:02] appreciate it.
[1:03] >> Yeah, send more questions. That's more
[1:04] because then you know that folks are
[1:06] really listening, Phil. I mean, we're
[1:07] entertaining, but
[1:09] >> we'd like to think so.
[1:10] >> We'd like to think so. You know, it'd be
[1:12] fun to, you know, chat about everybody's
[1:14] >> I completely agree.
[1:15] >> Very serious questions.
[1:16] >> Completely agree. And speaking of which,
[1:17] almost a year. We're getting near the
[1:20] end of the year as we record this. It's
[1:22] before the holidays, right? as it as
[1:24] this episode comes out. I think it'll be
[1:25] early January, but nevertheless,
[1:27] >> holiday food. What do you think, Emily?
[1:29] What's your favorite like holiday snack
[1:32] or treat or food or whatever?
[1:34] >> Oh, dear. Well, I a lot of things. Um,
[1:39] >> just all of it.
[1:40] >> I over a recent holiday, I had a uh corn
[1:44] casserole.
[1:46] >> Never had it before. No clue. I'll never
[1:48] go back. It's like it's corn and
[1:51] cornbread in this casserole dish. Our
[1:54] guest is nodding. I can't wait to hear
[1:56] if he really does know what this is.
[1:58] >> He's like, "Give me the recipe."
[1:59] >> Yeah, it was so good. So, that was my
[2:02] favorite.
[2:03] >> I love that.
[2:04] >> But I'm
[2:05] I'm not particular.
[2:06] >> I think you'll find support in these in
[2:08] this neck of the woods for a cornbased
[2:11] >> holiday dish.
[2:11] >> Midwest corn, you know. Yeah, totally.
[2:14] >> Mine's like a you know the cookies with
[2:16] the um the Hershey's kiss in the middle.
[2:18] >> Oh, yeah. I love those. Yeah.
[2:19] >> I can't get enough of them.
[2:20] >> Well, that's the There are two biters,
[2:21] so you can't just have one. You got
[2:23] five, you know.
[2:24] >> Yeah.
[2:25] >> A couple every few minutes.
[2:26] >> It's fine. Just tide you over.
[2:28] >> It's one time a year. We're
[2:29] [clears throat] all fine. Yeah. Don't
[2:30] come to us with your health questions
[2:32] cuz we can't help you.
[2:33] >> Completely correct. That's not We're not
[2:34] here to talk about health. We're here to
[2:36] talk about government services,
[2:37] >> right?
[2:37] >> So, yes.
[2:38] >> So, here we are. So, without much
[2:40] further ado,
[2:41] >> drum roll, please.
[2:42] >> With us today is a very uh special
[2:45] guest. very happy to have you join us is
[2:48] fire chief John Pritchard. Chief
[2:50] Pritchard,
[2:51] >> welcome.
[2:52] >> Hi. Thank you for having me. How you
[2:54] doing today?
[2:54] >> Absolutely.
[2:55] >> I'm doing very well. And I'm actually
[2:56] going to one up Phil's um with the
[2:58] Hershey Kiss.
[3:00] >> You can actually really up your game
[3:01] with those. It's the same cookie dough,
[3:03] but you put either a Rolo or a peanut
[3:05] butter cup in there.
[3:06] >> Peanut butter cup is the move.
[3:07] >> And that's if you really want to up your
[3:10] holiday game and holiday cookie game.
[3:12] >> Incredible. And what I think I just
[3:13] heard from our guest, Phil, uh, is that
[3:16] he'll be bringing us some to try.
[3:19] >> Well, I didn't hear that, but I'm
[3:20] hearing you say that. So, John,
[3:22] >> I'm pretty sure that's what I heard some
[3:23] cookies if my mother makes enough of
[3:25] [laughter] them and they can get through
[3:26] our family. I can bring you some in on
[3:29] maybe we can celebrate Boxing Day on the
[3:30] 26th with some of those cookies.
[3:32] >> Happy to do so.
[3:33] >> When you said oneup, I thought actually
[3:34] you were going to try to find a way to
[3:35] combine the corn dish and the cookie.
[3:38] Well, actually,
[3:39] >> like a cornbread based Hershey's Kiss
[3:41] cookie, which sounds disgusting.
[3:43] >> I hear that's the next Oreo flavor
[3:45] they're going to try. So, we'll see how
[3:46] that goes out for everybody.
[3:48] >> No. [laughter]
[3:49] >> Oh,
[3:49] >> well, they did do candy corn, so I guess
[3:51] they are in the realm of that way. It's
[3:54] not far off. Okay. Okay.
[3:56] >> Coming soon to shelves in quarter one of
[3:58] 2026. [laughter]
[3:59] >> Right. Right. I'm so curious, Phil.
[4:02] John, in your position, a fire chief. I
[4:05] mean, just an esteemed position. But if
[4:08] you could have a superpower, and you
[4:10] can't say I'd put out all the fires. No.
[4:13] What is your superpower truly that you
[4:16] would choose?
[4:18] >> Oh, boy. I
[4:19] >> Oh, we stumped him already.
[4:21] >> You've already stumped me. Um,
[4:22] >> he's going to say Aquaman so that he can
[4:24] put
[4:24] >> Aquaires.
[4:25] >> Hey, I'll take it.
[4:26] >> I think it would be to be in multiple
[4:28] places at once.
[4:30] >> Yeah. And maybe that's a good one for
[4:32] all folks that work in government or
[4:34] truly
[4:35] >> life. That's an answer we've heard
[4:37] before.
[4:37] >> Oh, really? Okay. So, good. That's a
[4:39] common.
[4:40] >> We're all thinking it, John.
[4:41] >> Good. So, we won't have to debrief my
[4:42] therapist as long next month. So, um
[4:45] >> Yeah. And I think the coolest part of
[4:47] that and especially for the fire service
[4:49] is we do so many different things
[4:51] whether it's it's just not going to you
[4:53] know if somebody's home is on fire we're
[4:55] providing health promotion, health
[4:57] prevention, teaching people CPR,
[5:00] learning water rescue in case somebody
[5:02] has a water accident or just getting
[5:05] somebody to the hospital in an ambulance
[5:07] and right
[5:07] >> some days you want you got to train in
[5:09] all that sort of stuff. So, if I could
[5:11] be in multiple classes at one time,
[5:13] right, that'd be really, you know, ideal
[5:15] for us. Or just plug in a USB port to
[5:17] the back of my head and download all
[5:18] that information. [laughter]
[5:20] Kind of like the Matrix. Now, we're in
[5:21] the Matrix.
[5:22] >> Yeah. So, um
[5:23] >> so it's and truly to be in all those
[5:26] places and of course, you know, be a
[5:28] good father and all that pieces and um
[5:30] outside of work. That would truly be the
[5:32] superpower I'd love to have. So,
[5:34] >> it would solve all our problems, John.
[5:36] Wouldn't that be great? But I think he
[5:37] alluded to what we're so curious about,
[5:40] Phil.
[5:40] >> Right. I mean, there's a lot going on.
[5:42] There's a lot to do.
[5:43] >> Yeah.
[5:43] >> A lot of things you have to track and
[5:45] plates that are in the air. And it does
[5:47] actually make a lot of sense now that
[5:49] I'm thinking about it. Every time we ask
[5:50] this question,
[5:51] >> people give us the same a very similar
[5:54] version of that answer, if not literally
[5:55] that exact answer. Yeah.
[5:57] >> Because it there it's it's a council
[5:58] member, it's a mayor, it's a fire chief,
[5:59] police chief, or whoever it is,
[6:01] >> the community, a resident, you know,
[6:03] >> you know, they've got a lot going on and
[6:04] they got to be in a lot of places. So,
[6:06] speaking of all of that, Chief
[6:08] Pritchard, um I I I am guessing most
[6:11] people when they hear about a fire
[6:12] chief, they kind of they kind of conjure
[6:14] up familiar images of firefighters and
[6:16] structure fires and things like that,
[6:18] fire engines, but you know, for those
[6:19] who may not know, uh what does a fire
[6:22] chief do?
[6:24] >> Great question. So, first of all, I
[6:26] don't have a great mustache, so that's
[6:28] typically probably one of the
[6:29] stereotypes of a fire chief. So, um
[6:32] >> So, that's not a prerequisite.
[6:33] >> That's not a prerequisite. So, um,
[6:35] mustache care isn't one of my daily
[6:37] tasks. [laughter] Maybe one day, but
[6:39] I've been given bad feedback about any
[6:41] attempts to grow a mustache. So,
[6:43] >> uh, so the best we'll
[6:45] >> have strengths and weaknesses,
[6:46] >> you know, we can try, right? I mean,
[6:48] [clears throat] I've tried.
[6:50] >> Um,
[6:51] >> there's some pictures out there maybe,
[6:52] but I wouldn't recommend looking for
[6:54] them. So [laughter] a lot so uh a lot of
[6:58] our you know and that's the best part of
[7:00] the fire chief job I think is just the
[7:02] strategic planning
[7:03] >> is looking at how can we best serve the
[7:06] community what other things can we do
[7:08] and and a lot of that goes back to the
[7:11] whole superpower. How can we be multiple
[7:13] places at once? So it's starting to plan
[7:15] that. So for example a couple years ago
[7:17] we did a home safety program. That was
[7:18] part of our strategic plan to make us
[7:20] safer. Our number one goal is to prevent
[7:22] fires, not to put them out,
[7:24] >> right?
[7:24] >> So we hopefully, you know, almost put
[7:26] ourselves out of business because a
[7:28] house fire is devastating.
[7:30] >> And that is all about planning like when
[7:32] does that come in? What resources do we
[7:34] need for that? And that's actually
[7:36] exciting part of my job. It's a lot of
[7:38] Excel spreadsheets, a lot of research, a
[7:40] lot of um making things digestible for
[7:44] folks. But that is the fun part. It's
[7:46] about that creativity about thinking of
[7:48] new ways to serve our community and we
[7:51] get to do that on a daily basis. Um,
[7:53] some of the other things I call maybe
[7:55] the more mundane things but probably
[7:56] just as important. We got to make sure,
[7:58] >> you know, people's payroll is, you know,
[8:02] all those steps are in place for that.
[8:04] Um, I would argue that's probably one of
[8:05] the top three for our firefighters to
[8:07] make sure that [laughter] like
[8:08] >> payroll is done. um of course the emails
[8:11] and all those sort of things, but really
[8:13] that strategic planning and that's a
[8:14] daily process. It's building up things
[8:17] one by one, getting us to the right
[8:19] spot, you know, getting the input from
[8:21] our firefighters of where they're at,
[8:23] what they love to do to better serve our
[8:26] community. And you know, I could
[8:29] probably go through all the, like I
[8:31] said, more mundane things, but that's
[8:32] truly exciting part. And anytime we're
[8:34] looking forward or looking what we how
[8:36] we can better
[8:37] >> do things for folks, that's really the
[8:39] exciting and the part that truly is what
[8:42] I love about this job. That's awesome.
[8:43] >> And then and then, you know, and for the
[8:46] folks out there, I mean, as the
[8:48] community development director, my team,
[8:49] it continues to grow this city, right?
[8:52] And so John and I, you know, have to
[8:54] work together from a strategic planning
[8:56] perspective as the community grows to
[8:58] his point. How do we continue to serve?
[9:00] Uh, you know, more importantly from, you
[9:02] know, the public safety perspective. Uh,
[9:06] there's more people, there's more
[9:07] infrastructure, all the things. And I'm
[9:10] so, you know, John, I know a little bit
[9:11] about your background, but maybe folks
[9:13] don't. And I don't know if you hit on
[9:14] this yet, but it's not only your team
[9:17] isn't, you know, simply just
[9:18] firefighters, right? You know,
[9:21] >> paramedics, first responders, etc. Um,
[9:24] your background is pretty cool. And how
[9:27] did you end up
[9:29] as a fire chief?
[9:31] >> So, this is the um I almost dread this
[9:34] question sometimes because I'm like,
[9:36] well, and it's cuz I'm excited to talk
[9:38] about it because it's kind of a cool
[9:39] path,
[9:40] >> but it also tends to put people to sleep
[9:42] because it's like this long windy road
[9:44] there. So,
[9:45] >> maybe I'll start at the beginning.
[9:47] >> Oh boy. How long [laughter] do we have,
[9:48] Phil? in 19 in 1982 at Northwest
[9:53] um [laughter]
[9:54] >> a young man was born to the world um
[9:58] >> and he grew up
[9:58] >> and he grew up to be in story over um
[10:02] that was fun so no um it's funny I
[10:06] always talk about like what I wanted to
[10:08] be in high school I wanted to be a a
[10:10] lawyer and focus on constitutional law
[10:12] and really the goal of that was to you
[10:14] know I wanted to do good for people and
[10:16] you know I got really excited about
[10:18] that. But then I kind of ran into
[10:20] medicine. I took an EMT class in high
[10:23] school and I'm like, I love this. This
[10:25] is such a great way to serve folks. And
[10:27] from there, I got somebody to talk to me
[10:30] into high school to go to firefighting
[10:32] classes at night. So before I graduated
[10:34] high school, I was a certified
[10:36] firefighter and I got my EMT
[10:38] certification
[10:39] >> which is pretty cool. Really to have
[10:41] those.
[10:41] >> Before you graduate?
[10:42] >> Yeah. Before I graduated high school.
[10:43] >> That part I didn't know. That's wild.
[10:45] >> So I did that all my senior year. I also
[10:47] had to catch up on some other classes
[10:49] which a lot of other people you know you
[10:50] got
[10:50] >> priorities were
[10:52] >> there's some teachers out there right
[10:52] now are like what the heck
[10:54] >> missain there's some people that are
[10:56] probably surprised that like oh he
[10:58] actually went to college
[10:59] >> he figured it out
[11:00] >> yeah like
[11:01] >> well he turned out good so
[11:02] >> I'm sure some people lost some bets
[11:03] along the way but you know um and so I
[11:06] started a local fire department in OIO
[11:08] Minnesota and and again the more I did
[11:10] it the more I fell in love with it and I
[11:12] actually early in my career pursued some
[11:14] full-time opportunities but didn't
[11:16] really have much interest in leaving
[11:17] Minnesota and there just weren't many
[11:19] fire jobs at that or full-time
[11:21] firefighter jobs out there. So, I joined
[11:24] a um
[11:26] I started a job at a local emergency
[11:28] department in um is Mercy Hospital in
[11:31] Rapids and like I love medicine. I
[11:34] love helping people and then again the
[11:36] emergency medicine the variety of it and
[11:39] and that led me to go to nursing school
[11:42] and during this time I was still working
[11:43] as like what we call paid on call
[11:45] firefighter volunteer firefighter other
[11:47] folks might know it as and
[11:49] >> went to nursing school um and just
[11:51] always had this love for firefighting
[11:53] but then of course I love nursing I love
[11:55] >> taking care of folks um with that and
[11:58] then I forgot to add the other part um
[12:00] actually did a graduate program where I
[12:01] was able to become a nurse and get a
[12:03] master's degree together. But for my
[12:04] undergrad, I did history and sociology.
[12:07] So, again, really driven to that. So, I
[12:09] love seeing like when Emily talks about
[12:11] different housing opportunities and all
[12:13] that stuff, that just speaks to my heart
[12:14] about a lot of the stuff that I
[12:16] >> kind of really embraced um in my studies
[12:20] and just in some of my, you know,
[12:21] worldviews. But then it all kind of came
[12:24] together. I moved to the east metro um
[12:26] and I joined White Bear Lake Fire
[12:28] Department and they had an ambulance
[12:30] service. So, I always loved EMS, but I
[12:32] was always on the receiving side of it,
[12:34] like working in an ED as an ER tech or
[12:36] working as an ER nurse, which I started
[12:38] doing in um 2013 at one of the large
[12:42] trauma centers. I'm like, this EMS
[12:44] stuff's pretty cool. So, White Bear Lake
[12:46] gave me the opportunity to go to
[12:47] paramedic school. And um actually,
[12:50] little joke, we call it the zero to her
[12:52] program cuz at Kraton University in
[12:54] Nebraska in Omaha, you can go there as a
[12:57] nurse and they you take a couple weeks
[12:59] there. They get you up to the paramedic
[13:01] level, do some clinicals, and you can
[13:03] get your paramedic if you're a nurse
[13:04] within about 4 months.
[13:06] >> Oh, no kidding.
[13:07] >> So, we do kid. It's like cuz you know,
[13:09] of course, paramedics make fun of
[13:10] nurses. So, we're like the zero to hero
[13:12] program. Like, yeah, it's fitting. You
[13:13] know, that's how I felt. Um,
[13:16] >> like, can you not call me a zero,
[13:17] though? With that, you know, maybe the
[13:19] rebrand.
[13:20] >> That's part of the fire EMS service. You
[13:22] take a few jabs here and there. Yeah.
[13:24] >> Um and then I became a paramedic and
[13:27] working on the ambulance and then that
[13:29] really I think then I worked in
[13:31] leadership at um regions and one of the
[13:34] pieces um that I really wanted more of
[13:36] was just more of that community
[13:38] involvement because in a hospital you're
[13:39] you're taking care of the community but
[13:42] you're not like in the community and
[13:44] that's what really drove me and
[13:46] >> and it really and as you know of course
[13:48] you're like what does this look like for
[13:50] me and then just the best opportunity
[13:52] ever came up with Cottage Grove um fire
[13:56] was kind of restructuring. They wanted
[13:58] somebody to come in who had that
[13:59] paramedic background and also a fire
[14:02] background to really go how can we
[14:04] better provide EMS services. I was very
[14:06] fortunate to get hired as a deputy chief
[14:08] in 2019
[14:10] and it just filled all those things for
[14:12] me like my interest in um that community
[14:15] involvement being in the community um
[14:19] the firefighting ambulances and just all
[14:22] those things. And I felt it was just
[14:23] like this perfect accumulation of
[14:26] >> right
[14:26] >> all those things that I truly have
[14:28] passion for. And ever since uh worked as
[14:31] a deputy chief for four years here, got
[14:33] promoted to fire chief at the end of
[14:35] 2023 and
[14:37] >> it all fell into place.
[14:38] >> It just all fell into place and
[14:39] >> totally
[14:40] >> and I'm reminded about that sometimes
[14:41] like oh that kind of worked out for you.
[14:44] Absolutely. Yeah. So, and sometimes the
[14:45] paths take you there. And I think it's
[14:47] so important for folks to know, you
[14:48] mentioned, right? I mean, your sole
[14:50] purpose is to provide care to the
[14:52] community and have that emergency
[14:54] response. And it's it
[14:57] >> it's not that easy. You got to plan for
[14:59] that. You have to be prepared. There's
[15:01] systems in place. I mean, you're
[15:02] constantly evaluating how can we be
[15:04] better? How can we be more efficient to
[15:07] make sure this community is safe? I
[15:08] mean,
[15:09] >> that's huge.
[15:10] >> And and that that focus on EMS, too. I
[15:12] mean, it makes a lot of sense. Some
[15:13] people may know, some some people may
[15:14] not that
[15:15] >> there is a balance there. Yeah,
[15:16] >> there's a balance and also your calls
[15:18] for service on a yearly basis to things
[15:20] like structure fires is obviously
[15:23] incredibly important. I mean, that's
[15:24] maybe somebody's worst day of their
[15:25] life. Heaven forbid if that something
[15:27] happens,
[15:28] >> but then your calls for those versus
[15:30] calls for medical. I mean, the the
[15:32] medical calls far exceed and outweigh,
[15:35] >> you know, structure fires. And so that
[15:37] focus on EMS is obviously incredibly
[15:39] important uh in the within the balance
[15:42] of the whole department
[15:43] >> very much. And that is it's it is the
[15:46] balance because it goes back to um I
[15:49] really love that superhero question
[15:50] because now I'm thinking like every
[15:51] [laughter] way I answer this now it's
[15:53] like we have to you know especially
[15:55] since our folks are firefighter
[15:57] paramedics they have to be elite level
[16:00] firefighters but also elite level
[16:02] medical providers. And now the medical
[16:05] part is kind of nice because they get
[16:08] that daily experience but at the same
[16:10] time we have to train for that less
[16:11] frequent right
[16:12] >> fire and it's just every day it's how do
[16:15] we how are we elite level providers and
[16:18] firefighters
[16:19] >> to best serve folks and that's a lot of
[16:21] work day in and day out to make that
[16:23] happen. Right.
[16:24] >> Yeah. Um, John kind of alluded to it,
[16:28] but what's something someone may not
[16:30] know about your position and what you
[16:33] do?
[16:35] Or maybe it's obvious. Is it obvious?
[16:39] >> No, I think a lot of it it's,
[16:43] you know, I think when you think about a
[16:45] fire chief or firefighter, it's like
[16:47] driving the truck or what truck goes out
[16:49] first. M
[16:50] >> but it's truly I think to what you
[16:51] alluded to is how do you balance all
[16:53] these things that you do because I mean
[16:56] for example like we have a very high
[16:58] standard for training and certification
[17:01] everything a frontline [snorts]
[17:02] firefighter might have like over a dozen
[17:05] certifications of things and that's from
[17:08] anywhere from being certified to pro you
[17:11] know be a firefighter and paramedic
[17:13] certified to drive a fire truck and
[17:15] operate a fire truck water rescue like
[17:18] how do I run a scene and I think That's
[17:20] what pe folks maybe underestimate is how
[17:24] much training and
[17:26] >> and um
[17:29] engagement we have to get in folks and
[17:31] also just how we have to invest in folks
[17:33] to make them that way cuz when you see
[17:35] that firefighter paramedic roll up
[17:37] >> yep
[17:38] >> into your home. I mean, that's thousands
[17:40] of hours of training, thousand hours of
[17:42] practice, and literally have that like
[17:44] elite level person show up while they
[17:46] might have a smile on their face and
[17:47] you're like, "Oh, that's a, you know,"
[17:48] or, "Hey, cool mustache." You know, it's
[17:50] like
[17:51] >> that's a more behind that.
[17:53] >> Yeah. And it's a lot of work to get
[17:54] there.
[17:55] >> And we're specialized.
[17:56] >> Yeah, absolutely. And which kind of
[17:58] dovetails into what I was maybe just
[18:00] going to say is like
[18:01] >> a fire department in 2025 or a fire
[18:04] department in 2026 I am assuming looks
[18:07] and operates a lot different than a fire
[18:09] department
[18:10] >> even 5 years ago but let alone 10 15 20
[18:13] years ago
[18:14] >> and you've touched on a lot of that
[18:15] already of like kind of the transition
[18:17] and how things have
[18:18] >> shifted a little bit.
[18:19] >> Yeah. And that is, you know, and we see
[18:21] one of the hardest parts in fire
[18:23] departments that we've been faced with
[18:24] was the how do we staff differently
[18:27] because traditionally fire departments,
[18:29] especially in the suburbs, we're staff
[18:31] with what we call paid on call. You
[18:33] carry a pager, you get paid a little
[18:35] amount or as volunteers, but you know,
[18:38] think of all the things we just talked
[18:39] about,
[18:40] >> right?
[18:40] >> How do you work a full-time job, take
[18:43] care of a family, and then have all
[18:44] these certifications? So, that's been
[18:46] one of our biggest challenges. be
[18:47] trained and prepared for all, you know,
[18:49] and we see it all over the suburbs right
[18:51] now as we make this transition. And
[18:53] they're they're difficult transitions.
[18:55] They're it's a lot of investment, not
[18:57] just financially, but time, effort, and
[19:00] a lot of changes that go on. And that's
[19:03] actually one of the things in Cottage
[19:04] Grove we've been working really hard on
[19:06] to do that kind of that transition cuz
[19:09] to your point, um, Phil, 5 years ago,
[19:12] very different. Um, I'm honestly and
[19:16] genuinely it's it's better. We provide a
[19:18] better service, but it's been tons of
[19:20] work to do that. And I think what helps
[19:22] more than anything, especially in
[19:23] Cottage Grove, is the support we get
[19:25] from the community. has been so
[19:28] >> just I mean
[19:29] >> I don't think that folks and I'm not a
[19:31] big like you know thank you for your
[19:33] service type of person you know but I
[19:35] mean just when people come out to our
[19:36] events or genuinely engage with us or
[19:39] when we did our um fire prevention
[19:41] program when people just invited us into
[19:43] their homes
[19:44] >> to let us look at their smoke alarms
[19:45] which is a very like vulnerable
[19:48] experience.
[19:49] >> Yeah. It's into their personal space,
[19:50] right? But they understand the value and
[19:53] they trust your team
[19:55] >> that what they're doing is
[19:57] >> incredibly beneficial.
[19:59] >> You've got our backs. You're going to
[20:00] make sure we're
[20:00] >> totally safe and prepared.
[20:03] >> So, so Chief Pritchard, with that, um,
[20:05] you know, we're we're nearing the end of
[20:07] the time here. It goes by quickly.
[20:08] >> Well, and I talk a lot, too, so it's all
[20:11] great. We knew it, John. [laughter]
[20:13] >> Like, we don't talk a lot. the people
[20:14] who are hosting the podcast.
[20:17] [laughter]
[20:18] >> Um just just I mean maybe you've already
[20:20] mentioned it mentioned it but is there
[20:22] anything in particular that you are um
[20:24] you know particularly fond of in your
[20:26] career either in Cottage Grove or or
[20:29] just in general? I think the there's two
[20:32] moments or well I go one to co and co
[20:36] was more than a moment right I think
[20:38] that's an era now we can all fair say
[20:40] but when our team stepped up and we did
[20:43] the vaccinate we did um mobile testing
[20:46] clinics to give people access to co
[20:48] testing and then we helped out with
[20:50] vaccinations with um Washington County
[20:51] Public Health
[20:53] >> and it wasn't just that our paramedics
[20:54] and EMTs stepped up to help I mean and
[20:57] it was overwhelming support from our
[20:59] department. But what our city did, I
[21:02] remember our city administrator,
[21:04] Jennifer Levit, I said, "Jennifer, I
[21:06] have this crazy idea on how we can help
[21:08] with this."
[21:10] >> And she's like, "All right, let's make
[21:11] this happen." And she brought in all the
[21:13] departments. And literally, that was a
[21:14] city-wide effort on how we could support
[21:16] a lot of those pieces.
[21:18] >> And just watching that um partnership,
[21:22] that just unrelenting like we're going
[21:24] to serve the community the best we can
[21:26] was just and it is humbling. It was
[21:29] pride inducing and just the
[21:32] >> all the emotion and truly the access we
[21:34] gave to folks was the most important
[21:36] part because that was lacking early in
[21:38] the pandemic. So if I you know pin
[21:40] something that is literally what I'm
[21:42] most proud of with and there's a lot
[21:45] there's a long list because we have such
[21:46] a great fire department and city but
[21:48] that truly is what I saw in that moment
[21:50] when truly that's what the world needed
[21:52] and we needed.
[21:53] >> Yeah.
[21:53] >> And you didn't know that I mean
[21:55] initially. No, no. It was like I said
[21:57] >> and all of a sudden here's this problem.
[21:59] >> Yeah. And that was funny because it was
[22:01] >> three, four months into my tenure here.
[22:04] >> Wow. So,
[22:05] >> welcome to cottage.
[22:08] Exactly. So, a lot of people like,
[22:09] "Yeah, crazy idea. Let's see what he
[22:11] comes up with." And
[22:12] >> Well, what a way to adapt and respond to
[22:14] the to the need of the moment, you know?
[22:16] >> Absolutely. Yeah. That's so cool.
[22:17] >> Um, so really fast, and I'm shifting
[22:21] here really quick because I have to
[22:23] know. I have to
[22:24] >> I have to know. John, what is your
[22:27] favorite food? Your go-to, your your
[22:31] comfort, your I'm starving. This is what
[22:34] I'm going to have.
[22:34] >> And why is it the corn Oreo?
[22:36] >> And [laughter] why is it the corn Oreo?
[22:39] That was a similar question we had of
[22:41] our public safety director. Why cereal?
[22:44] What? Okay.
[22:44] >> No, that's that's game. That's game
[22:47] right there. Cereal. But
[22:48] >> I we would we wouldn't judge.
[22:50] >> No. Um, peanut butter and jelly
[22:53] sandwich.
[22:53] >> That is fantastic.
[22:54] >> That is literally the jam, I guess I can
[22:57] say. But that is Yeah. Sorry.
[23:00] >> Well, that's all the time we got for
[23:01] [laughter] you.
[23:02] >> Too bad you don't have like the wamp
[23:04] wamp like [laughter]
[23:07] >> bar. But
[23:08] >> folks, he's funny. I got to give it to
[23:10] him.
[23:10] >> Oh boy.
[23:11] >> I try. He tries hard. Like the mustache.
[23:13] I try.
[23:14] >> Peanut butter jelly. Is it Is it just
[23:16] white bread, peanut butter, and jelly?
[23:18] Uh, I'm the wheat bread person. So, you
[23:20] know,
[23:20] >> John makes healthy jelly.
[23:21] >> Crunchy peanut butter. What are we
[23:23] talking?
[23:23] >> No. No. It's the um It's the natural
[23:26] peanut butter. Got it. And with
[23:28] >> You know what? I was a I dabbled in
[23:31] other jellies, but good oldfashioned
[23:32] grape jelly is where you go.
[23:34] >> I've dabbled.
[23:34] >> I dabbled. You know, I found my home.
[23:36] >> I had a raspberry phase, but I went back
[23:39] to grape and that's where it is.
[23:41] >> Okay.
[23:41] >> Oh, this is excellent. Well, so anybody
[23:43] out there who wants to know how to uh
[23:45] just give a little pat on the back,
[23:47] bring [laughter]
[23:48] >> Chief Pritchard to PB&J on wheat bread
[23:50] with grape
[23:51] >> or even Uncrustable to become a
[23:53] >> in a pinch
[23:54] >> niche favorite of mine. So
[23:55] >> incredible. Those are on the special
[23:57] days. This is great. [laughter]
[23:58] >> I love it so much.
[23:59] >> This is fantastic. A
[24:00] >> real take behind the curve.
[24:01] >> Even if you don't deth, I'll find a way
[24:03] to get them ready to eat in a [laughter]
[24:04] few hours. So
[24:05] >> Sean, no.
[24:07] >> I got to draw a line somewhere.
[24:08] [laughter]
[24:12] Well,
[24:13] >> oh, Phil, he does good work.
[24:14] >> That unintentionally became a very great
[24:16] segue to end the episode.
[24:18] >> It [laughter] did. We got to move on,
[24:19] Phil.
[24:19] >> Which isn't why we're ending, but
[24:21] >> I find those offramps pretty quickly.
[24:23] So, [laughter]
[24:23] >> Well, I appreciate that. You You helped
[24:25] you helped our job out.
[24:26] >> Uh, well, John, Chief Pritchard, thank
[24:29] you so much for joining us. I know that
[24:31] uh in your fascinating and honestly
[24:34] really cool career and history and your
[24:36] story, you probably never were like, I
[24:37] know one day I want to be on a podcast
[24:39] as a part of my job. So, I do appreciate
[24:41] it's a little outside of the box and you
[24:42] got a lot going on. So, thank you.
[24:44] >> No, thank you. And actually being on a
[24:45] morning show was a career goal of mine.
[24:47] So, I'm going to
[24:48] >> I'm going to check the box on that one
[24:50] for this.
[24:50] >> Check that lifeless box, Phil.
[24:53] >> Add it to the LinkedIn. Yes. [laughter]
[24:55] >> Look what we've done.
[24:58] Well, Chief Richard, thank you. Uh
[25:00] Emily, thank you as always and thank you
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