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Cottage Grove Public Services Commission Meeting 7-15-2024

Cottage Grove City CouncilSunday, March 16, 2025
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I am going to call the meeting to order pledge allegiance please I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all roll call thank you approval of the agenda I move the agenda so move second second second all in favor say I I unanimous decision motion passes um I can't see approval of minutes I make a motion to approve second I'll second all in favor say I hi hi unanimous vote um it passes and let's move right on to open Forum if there is any none seeing none we are going to move on to presentations and so we're going to start right away with the construction updates with Ryan I guess lucky lucky thank you chair members of the commission so as I like to every year in the summer give an update on a lot of our current construction projects let you know how they're going in town but also touch on some of our big ones that we have upcoming and kind of the progress that we're making on those so I'll kind of talk about a lot of road projects first then I'll move into our water treatment plan projects towards the end first one I want to talk about is East Point Douglas and Jamaica Avenue this was our big two-year project I've got two screens here kind of showing all the areas of work um obviously the main Jamaica Avenue and East Point Douglas intersection we uh completed uh last year um you can see the roundabout kind of in pink that was our first phase we started this year that went really well even with all the rain they're able to get that done actually a little bit early and got that open before the 4th of July and then they moved into phase four as we call it that's that area behind Target where due to the road conditions and how old it was it needed to be a total reconstruct um and the challenge with that was is the corridor is narrow enough there was just no way to legally have two lanes of traffic with the construction going on so you notice we had that one-way traffic flow which was better than it was when the roundabout was being worked on but still a little confusing uh they're actually wrapping up the first phase of that one-way traffic and then towards the end of this month they'll be switching to um the second phase and building the other half of East Point Douglas Road um and at the same time they're going to be working on a Mill and overlay of East Point Douglas Road in the blue um that section is just not as old the curbs in a lot better shape overall um so we can do a Mill and overlay kind of in front of you know Menards and down to the town homes there so that'll wrap up sometime in September and then the project will be uh complete so we're all very excited for that hey Ryan real quick um I noticed too they took all the our lights down along there are they replacing them with new ones then they are yes that's a good question commissioner they are upgrading to kind of that new standard we have of a overhead I call it kind of a cobra head style but a little more decorative style light um that you see around the East Point Jamaica intersection they actually match what's on 80th Street uh between Keat and Jamaica uh moving on we've got our South District Street and utility project so that's the area highlighted in blue is the actual project that's happening this year um you can see other roads uh that labeled hund Street ideal Avenue those were done the previous two years and hund and fif Street as well as a new road you can see towards the bottom of the screen um that was also complete two years ago um with the South District Street and utility improvements the main kind of X we call it where3 Hadley and HTH all realign that's following that County Southwest arterial study that I've maybe talked about some in the past where hund street is a city street right now but long term that's going to be turned over to the county um because they don't have any County roads in the southern powder Cottage Grove and they want to have a county road that serves this area meets all the county you know kind of higher volume standards and such as this area develops that'll also provide access down to gcloud Island which is obviously future guided County Regional Parks so um doing this kind of big X and realignment is it's it's tough there's a lot of Road closers with it um but it's really important from a traffic flow standpoint all the right angles and stop signs are not conducive to a county road so um you know kind of of a challenge this summer right now for existence um for example Hadley's closed north of H Street um and then in the next couple weeks they have to make that tie in of the new H 100th to the old H hundredth so actually that'll be closed with a detour down on 105th so just a lot of a lot of detours a lot of challenges but we're appreciate everyone kind of living through it this summer as we do the best we can and with some of these closures it just lets the work be done so much faster we looked at trying to do more bypass lanes and you spend a lot of money on those and it can drag the project out almost longer than a full construction season so um we felt some of these detours enclosur were the the better way to do that project so there's also a lot of development happening down here this is where the North Point development is new development called greymont Village um kind of right around that X where it says propos 100 Street that's where the uh a new apartment uh called norhart uh was approved so a lot of new development that'll use these new roadways another smaller one that uh is a good safety Improvement I would say down at River Oaks that um I think I touched on briefly last year and this will start construction very soon is the restricted Crossing U-turn intersection improvements it's a city-led project um mostly funded by mindat though actually uh through several grants and such that we're able to get from them um to orient yourself on the North side is actually River Oaks and the bottom right is zivic Garden Center so right now you've got that median that has the full access and this is um some people call it a j turn you see a lot on Highway 52 um this is a lot more compact sometimes on Highway 52 those u-turns are pretty far removed a quarter mile or more these are you know fairly close to the current intersection and um what it does is it'll it it prevents that just full cross through movement but you still have the u-turns on either end so people can make the Motions they need to make to go north or south um it doesn't you know necessarily increase you know the capacity right it doesn't make gaps for folks on the 61 but eliminates those right angle movements and right angle crashes which are by far the most severe type of crashes um that that can have at these high speeds so um it really it removes those and yes you're pulling out into traffic but you're going with traffic then right so um if someone were to make an error in that judgment right it's a more of a rear end style crash if there is an accident so um much less severe um pretty much across the board uh and it it really can help I mean in some ways improve um flow getting out because you know if you leave River Oaks after a big event everyone wants to wait to take a left so it just backs up now you can't take a left so really people are forced just to take that right and then make the U-turn so you can actually see that traffic start to flow a little better as well so um so that's a major Improvement as well Ryan that exit coming out of the golf course there yep are you going to have a curbing put in just to separate the inbound and outbound and kind of coax them to the right uh so I think good question commissioner it was more of a uh just striping um but with that where I put the X on there that's where that median is being filled in so it actually be continuous just grass median so um I think that's what they're looking at is more that type of situation so sweet yeah this is a this is a game changer for that intersection yep no I mean it was really good we were happy that mindat was supportive uh we were able to get the Grant and actually the project um just due to different things out of our control was going to be more expensive and they they actually wored an additional 300,000 so there's about a million dollars in grant funding for this project so fantas very excited about that uh kind of a smaller one but still always important is our 2024 pavment management this is our neighborhood reconstruct that we like to do every year um this is in the prestige Estates neighborhood um north side of 8th between Jamaica and Keat kind of right in the middle there so total reconstruct new curb new pavement moving along pretty well uh the curb is complete um and half the paving was done and they were doing Paving here today so looking to wrap that up probably sometime early August I would say so moving pretty well um and before I talk about County 1900 I'll just mention Jamaica didn't really it's just a middle and overl not a great figure to show but we have our Jamaica Avenue mid overlay happening um traffic's been flipped to the other side and if everything goes well with weather hoping to have that complete you know end of July into early August as well so that'll be a nice uh Improvement in that condition the runting was very bad on that road way to the point where we had a hard time even plowing it in the winter because of it snow that got left behind in those ruts so very happy to have that project done uh right in front of us we've got County 19 and hund Street realignment uh this is a major project we're working on with the county it's about $47 million project um to date we've received $14 million in Grant funds for it and we have requests in for an additional about 2122 uh through the federal government and then there's about 11 million between the county and City CIP so really looking for that final 21 22 million in grant funding to round out this project could start construction in 2026 there's probably some that we want to do and money we'd like to expend that year into 2027 and you know wrapping up potentially in 2028 so it is a two-year plus project it's very large and this is that whole realignment of hund Street uh to go directly from the Jamaica Avenue and 100th intersection right over to The Interchange of Highway 61 and in County County 19 in that direction so uh everything in purple just if you're wondering what that color is there that's 3M land that we're working with them on that you know they could you know either develop themselves or or actually sell for development with the with the construction of these roadways so that's what the purple areas are highlighted and with this we'd realign kind of slightly Miller Road and uh County 19 and then we'd also on the top there that road coming in is an extension of the West Point Douglas frontage road so that comes out of the Jamaica roundabout right now kind of dead ends by public works so that would actually continue down 200 Street and just real quickly I want to just show we actually created an animation so we're able to take the County's design profile and actually create an animation that shows what the roadway is going to look like so so it kind of shows the project area and we kind of fly into the uh Western uh extent of the project so right at the Jamaica Avenue intersection and you can see the old 100 Street alignment here's the new alignment look East um with the new bridge off in the distance so um really this you know this is looking to support new development and existing businesses in the area both right because the jamaic have intersection interchange has a lot of challenges opens up over 500 Acres of new land in the immediate area um for development with good access to the highway um this is part of the Mississippi River uh Regional Trail or Mississippi River Trail Corridor so we'll have new obviously separated trails along this new roadway and then here's the new road section as you go east um you can see where Miller road ties in here that'll continue to go down to 3M um but the biggest part of the project is this bridge over the railroad tracks which also crosses a major gas line and the mech conso sewer that serves the whole East Metro so big bridge um just a construction alone is $10 million so um that's a huge safety Improvement for this area to have that Crossing be a new intersection with Innovation Road and then we end at a roundabout at the at the interchange so that's what we're trying to accomplish it's a huge project um always going for new grants it's a big undertaking so that animation was very nice yeah and what's really cool is with the actual profile uh the cad profiles and Google Earth imagery it's it's so slick we didn't have to fly a drone through anything it's it's quite for what you get it's very simple to create so it's amazing what you can do with technology and it it helps show a lot more what we're doing as much as an engineer I love this little layout on the on the on the screen here that really gives life to the project so I was actually getting ready to pull up Google Maps to figure out where that was so that was that was key yeah we we also did that because even with the grants you know we're submitting for these grants with the federal government this we actually submit this profile that animation as well so it can help them see what we're trying to accomplish wow so Switching gears real quick as I wrap up uh talk about some of our water projects and a lot going on on this on this picture here but really all I want to highlight is um we have a whole bunch of interim treatment plants right that continue to provide City with water that meets all of the healthbase values all of the new EPA values that came out this year so um we have two additional ones um you can see some pictures on the side um those kind of metal building those are two additional ones that we've recently constructed that'll have some more information on but also those two red boxes uh the one that's kind of in the southern part of the screen that says LZ wtp so that's our low Zone water treatment plant that's a permanent treatment plant that's under construction right right now um will'll complete next year and there's another one up by the central fire station that I'll talk about that's our second permanent treatment plant um but also down by that low Zone treatment plant which is right by the intersection of 110th Street in ideal uh we have a new office building for part of our public work staff being constructed next to it um so first with those two new we call them the interim treatment plants right they're continuing to serve our city uh with fully treated water um just in a much more costeffective structure the actual treatment on the inside matches exactly what we would do in in a permanent facility and we're actually going to move these vessels into our permanent treatment plants so we're not wasting them we're and it's all funded for by the state and through 3M right but we want to be very you know good with those dollars right that's still public money that we need to be very cost conscious of so these are at our well 9 and well 11 uh Wells and they uh just actually became operational here in May um well n is if you've gone to the archery range behind the fire station there's that little road that snakes down it's right along that road and then w 11 is right across the park parking lot from the splash pad um so if you see that metal building that's what that is and this is a new technology for Minnesota of ion exchange so it's the first time ion exchange has been used for past treatment in the state of Minnesota um we actually did a pilot study a big pilot study um three years ago funded by the 3M settlement to prove this technology out so um this building is about half the cost of if we would have had to have done a GAC treatment plant like we had been doing in this temporary scale so very excited to have that up and running and it's working very well for our city that low Zone treatment plant that's the first of our permanent treatment plants you can see some construction photos here from over the winter there's obviously no snow over the winter so we were able to keep building it uh right through the That season so that worked out well the bottom image is just a rendering of what it's going to look like when it's complete and that'll be operational in uh May of 2025 so a little less than a year from now and right next to it is that new office building so this is for our utility and Engineering divisions of Public Works um this has been in the work separately for a while because we are completely out of space at our facility um and this was the most practical way to relocate some of the divisions because it'll be right by that treatment plant so it'll work really well with the utility division um and the engineering division just works a lot with them so that was another easier division to move that actually off out a city hall and that freed up space at City Hall so on the bottom is a rendering then the top is a picture I took um last week so kind of that same view and how it's coming together so very excited to get that building open and operational over the winter and then in the future we would move all the public works and parks there this was built to expand to accommodate the whole department you know over time and lastly that intermediate Zone treatment plan so this is our second of two permanent treatment plants that'll serve our community uh it's going to go right behind uh the central fire station um kind of north of those water towers so um this is going to be a very similar facility to what is being built down by 110th Street just larger because it is um about two and a half times the the capacity for treatment um and this will serve everything kind of north and east of Highway 61 uh doing our final design right now we just got all the grant funding from the state to do that and we look to start construction next spring and that'll be a full two-year build so it would be spring of 2027 that would actually be uh completed and here's just a rendering of what that one will look like um obviously it's more in a residential area we're trying to you know within reason have it pretty decently aesthetically pleasing and we're really mimicking the fire station architecture architecture is what we're trying to do uh with this facility um it's obviously a big building you know going into an area with homes we're very aware of that so we're trying to really focus the design to minimize that impact uh anything with semis not having to back up right that we have drive-thru for everything um and really any type of deliveries being on the far East side of the building away from the home so really on a day-to-day there's maybe one or two Public Works pickups that come and go and like those semis for change outs of of the treatment media this will be an ion exchange treatment plant kind of like our new temporary ones that's like once every six years they come so it'll be a larger building but it's going to be very you know quiet and and hopefully a good neighbor uh for those homes there so with that it's the last of my updates for you any questions before I pass along to the next item all right seeing no questions sounds good we will move on to the next presentation which is going to be the 2024 annual use of force presentation evening Commissioners sta U thank you for giving me the time to talk about last year's annual use Force report um as you know we've been doing this for a handful of years I think this is the fourth year that we've done this typically this happens um in the winter spring season but we postpone this presentation um so that we could uh tackle the the police and fire department strategic plans because those were more pressing issues so um we'll spend a few minutes talking about last year's use of force so I I'm not going to paraphrase uh everything from the chief's message but I do want to emphasize um our Department's profound commitment for Community safety uh Progressive policies and tactics Innovative training and state the fact that we are well ahead of the reform reform curve we've been there for a number of years um typically things that you're seeing in the media and from politicians uh about changes and reforms to U police policies practices we've done 5 to 10 years ago and that's been a consistent theme in cottage grow for at least a decade now so things like um Crisis Intervention training deescalation U bars on certain tactics um we did that years and years ago so well ahead of the reform curve on those things um as you know things are changing very rapidly in law enforcement and so we're striving to be a very agile adaptive resilient agency and um be very Innovative and everchanging in the way we train and and coach and and our officers and it's all about um being accountable to the community and emphasizing safety for all community members and our officers as well so uh won't go over mission statement and vision as you know uh these are brand new to our department with our new strategic plan and I just want to emphasize the fact that our use of force program and this report and doing things like what we're doing tonight uh having these forums with the community members fits very well into our strategic plan it's very important for us to have these listening sessions excuse me um and educate and listen to the public and adapt to what the public wants from us so we feel like we have a um a very good recipe for Success when it comes to our tactics and training and our use Force program uh and what we're doing here tonight is a very important piece of that puzzle right as a mentioned to the commission before we're looking at the commission to be um our citizen advisory uh panel um we want to bring things to you bring information to you bring ideas to you and and you be that sounding board from the community back to us and tell us whe whether this is a good idea or not and so tonight I'm bringing to you uh statistics and information about our use of force from last year and really I'm hopeful that you can give me some of your thoughts and guidance um just for those who don't know um and the listening audience when there is a use of force incident um our officers are required to report that through a series of mechanisms um the sergeant will also respond to the scene and do a investigation uh when that call has completed the officers um go through reporting sequence where they report all the information that's would then feed into our USF Force database Sergeant does a QA on that and then um all that information along with things like reports and Squad video and the whole package and goes to use of force Review Committee and every single use of force that happens in C Grove is reviewed by this committee on a quarterly basis and so during that review um we're doing things like deciding whether the use of force is reasonable within policy whether there's any equipment or training or policy issues and we're looking at every single use of force um with a a lens of was this preventable could we do this better uh would different piece of equipment or a different tactic change the outcome and make it safer um reduce liability things like that so we're really looking at every use of force under a microscope and trying to minimize the uh frequency that we use Force so after that use of force Review Committee um does their analysis um all that statistical information gets fed into a real-time dashboard so we have access to literally any question you could ask about um location time frequency race uh injuries whatever you want to know uh we can um provide you real time information about that so getting into last year's statistics I'll just uh give it some context as you know our City's population is growing rapidly along with that our call volume is um Rising drastically so in the purple line you can see our population uh showing a slow steady incline uh in the the lime green color I'm sorry in the the light blue color you can see how drastically our calls for service increased last year um despite that um our crime rate is in a steady decline so to me that says we're doing something right so as St we had a little over 43,000 calls for service last year uh that's everything from calls we get from dispatch to our proactive checks of businesses Parks vacation checks that's encompass ing of every single thing we did last year out of that 43,000 plus calls for service we only had 82 um incidents that involve any amount of force at all and just for your information um we report very minimal amounts of force I should say we require officers to report very minimal uses of force whereas other departments um they don't require their officers to report until um higher thresholds and so we're capturing more of those incidents and more of that statistical data uh out of those 82 incidents there were 103 people involved so as you can imagine um sometimes we're dealing with multiple people so we might do a felony stop on a vehicle um and point our Firearms at four people in that vehicle so that's how we can get more people than incidents so uh on on this graph you can see our call volume uh steadily increasing over the last about 7 years but despite that um our number of us of force is remaining very stable so you'd expect and what you see in some other communities as is that as the call volume goes up the uses of force follow that Trend uh but over the last decade here we've really been emphasizing things um like deescalation uh Crisis Intervention training changing our tactics um and those are things that are keeping our um incidents of use of force down and like I said every time we have an incident we're looking at it through the lens of how can we prevent this in the future right the sheer fact is we can't ever reach zero um using force is just uh an aspect of our job that's um going to happen sometimes sometimes we have to use Force um so it's not completely avoidable but there's plenty of opportunity to avoid use of force in some situations so we strive to achieve that this graph shows that um about 2/3 of our use of force is in response to a call that we're dispatched to so it's not something that we we're self-initiating right we're not um policing uh aggressively with an overzealous nature that's been resulting in a lot of use of force these are instance that we're getting called to we kind of just dealt the cards that were dealt and we have to deal with it um to make sure that the um victims witnesses as community members are safe some of the demographic you can see on the graph on the left that about 2third of the people that um we use Force against are not kage Grove residents and so what we've learned over the last about five years is that um about two-thirds of our crime is not committed by people who live in Cottage Grove um our belief is that uh some of the people who are prone to Crime View the suburbs as a soft target they come here to commit retail thre theft and um pray upon our community and so um naturally they're drawn to our attention and often times they end up having Force used against them um so um that kind of feeds into the the data regarding race and so you can see that we've got a pretty good dispersion that closely mirrors the demographic uh U composition of our community not quite but it's it's not a direct translation because as I just said the people that we're using Force against aren't our community members so we can't make that one toone comparison or Apples to Apples comparison right because we have to take into account that these people that we're using Force against um are not from our community so I don't put a whole lot of of emphasis or or um stock on that statistic or that graph just because I know that um it's not showing that we're using Force disproportionately against anyone particular race um third graph shows that what we've already known drugs alcohol mental illness are a huge contributor to um use of force and so um we're doing things with our community impact team to reduce that effect right we're out there in the community trying to mitigate the amount and and problematic nature of drug and alcohol abuse doing putting a lot of emphasis on mental illness homelessness things like that so all right so now getting into some of the particulars um this is showing the prevalence of the different forms of unarmed tactics and so starting on the left you can see escort hold going all the way to the right where you'd see a higher level of force which would be striking striking um and so naturally we're using those lower levels of force more often than the more harsh form forms of force like striking um and that is in line with our training we want officers to use the minimal amount of force necessary to control the situation so I'm really happy when I see this graph that we're using those lesser lesser forms of force more often than the higher levels of force same thing with our intermediate levels of force right this is our taser pepper ball 40 mm OC sprays and batons um we're using the the safest levels Force more often than we're using those forms of force that are going to most likely cause injury um don't be freaked out by the number of taser uses um as you'll see here in a moment those are um threatened or displayed uses of forces so even when an officer pulls out his taser and says do X Y and Z or I'm going to use my Taser those are reported as an actual use of force and so out of that 25 uses of the taser you'll see that um 20 of those were actual threats so we only used the taser five times last year so pepper ball is a very successful tool that we implemented a couple years ago you're seeing that um being used more and more often with a lot of success and the beauty of the pepper ball is that it's a very very safe tool and in fact it's our only non-lethal uh form of force so very safe very effective and you're seeing that used more and more often baton hasn't been used in nearly two decades and so this year uh we implemented a change where we're actually giving our officers the opportunity to decide not to carry that anymore so about half our officers decided to ditch that and you'll see um in a later slide what they're replacing that with so when I talked about the pepper ball the thing that I like about that is it gives us a lot of options right so of course we have the option to impact the person with that pepper projectile but there are a lot of other options right I can shoot the floor the ceiling the wall around them and expose them to that chemical irritant um I can do warning shots um there's a lot of options besides just impacting the person and so our officers are trained and Coach to start with those um safer and lower levels of force before they impact a person unless it's absolutely necessary and so what you're seeing on this slide is that um we didn't impact anybody at all last year right we did area saturation which means we shot around them we used a lot of threats and displays of that that tool um so and then lastly on the right you see the pepper ball blast I'll save that discussion for a little bit later that's a new tool that we just implemented again 40mm impact um we didn't actually deploy that at all last year we took it out of the car maybe threatened it or had it available to us but we didn't impact anybody with that Kines um we use the canine a lot as a search and tracking tool but we did not have any apprehensions or bite last year of course um there are times where we take the dog out we might make its present known we may threaten its use but we didn't actually have any apprehensions last year but you can see how often is being used to um search wooded areas buildings things of that nature so very useful I have a question do you are any of these business related or workplace violence related or are they all nonb business um all the above okay so the numbers that you're seeing would be representative of everything from workplace um public venues and private residences and if you had specific questions I'd be happy to jot that down and I can go ahead and dig that data mind that out so so this references our um enhan restraints and so when somebody is continues to be non- compliant combative resistant um uh do things that would cause self injury or injury to others after they've been handcuffed we have a number of ways that we can um control them so one of them being a spit Hood so they're not spitting at people we can put a hobble restraint on now when I say hobble hobble restraint um that conjures up an image of somebody being hog tied in a prone position that's not what we're using that for we were strain their their feet together at the anch and then when we put them in a squad car that leash is then secured in such a way that they can't kick out windows and and injure themselves when they're in the back of the car we would never ever hogtie somebody put them in a prone position especially for transport so last two that reference software restraint and sedation those aren't functions of the police department those are ems functions that the ambulance crew would do but they are um they are uh techniques or situations that police department and the EMS Department um face a lot of liability a lot of scrutiny under so we track those and report on those as well so stop restraints would be when you put somebody on the stretcher in the ambulance um there's soft handcuffs essentially that bind their hands to the side of the stretcher and then as a last resort we use chemical sedation so they're given a medication to sedate them put them in a coma to state for lack of better words so that they can't harm themselves or somebody else on the way to the hospital so we seeing those being used fairly frequently like I explained to you last year um we've had a couple individuals in our community in group home settings who are um responsible for the bulk of these situations um we're starting to get a handle on that the one primary person juvenile that we're having a problem with last year has since left um so we're not dealing with him um but there are a couple people that we deal with on a repeated basis um that we have to use self restraints chemical restraints things like that so but we try our very very hardest not to use this or to be very smart about how we use these these situations so this um is talking about um Pursuits and use of force in and around Pursuits last year we had 19 Pursuits which thankfully is down from the previous year 2022 we reported 32 is Pursuits if my memory serves me correctly so last year we had about 19 Pursuits we only had to use Stop Sticks once um use the pit maneuver three times and then what you're seeing here is the blocking maneuver and so this is a new technique that we implemented last year where we're trying to mitigate the threat to the community that Pursuits cause and we're doing that by essentially sacrificing our squads um we're making intentional contact with the fleeing vehicle or a vehicle that we think might flee um blocking it in with physical contact at low speed causing minimal damage and preventing that vehicle from fleeing and so we're using this in situations where we might find a stolen vehicle that's in a Walmart parking lot rather than waiting for that vehicle to leave get on Highway 61 and then activate our lights um and giving the opportunity that offender the opportunity to flee we'll just block it in in the in the parking lot and don't ever ever give them the opportunity to flee so we're also using this at the end of Pursuits and so when they um surrender crack uh get spun out in a pit maneuver we're using this vehicle to block using this technique to block them in so they can't resume their flight so so quick question I think we were presented at one time that the police department has drones and that we follow so our Pursuits part of a drone follow too then these numbers were seeing no um this is nothing to do with drones and in fact we're not using our drones at all to um track or pursue people with people who flee in a vehicle with our drone we're using uh um State patrols planes and helicopters for that so if somebody's fleeing on foot we would certainly use a drone for that though our drones we can't get them launched in time or and they simply can't fly fast enough to keep up with the fleeing vehicle as you know deadly force incidents are very rare thankfully we haven't had one since 2019 uh however our officers were kind of remotely involved uh in an incident in Woodbury here within the last couple months our officers were not the actual officers who use deadly force so therefore you're not seeing it in in these statistics but in cotage Grove a cage Grove officer has not used has not used deadly force since 2019 um and so despite what the media and um some politicians and that public narrative says deadly force is very very very rare uh I'm not saying that um doesn't mean it's not very impactful on the community it's not something we should try to mitigate uh the effects of um I'm just simply trying to educate it's extremely extremely rare So as you can see on the bottom of the slide um 0.057% of any calls for service um results in any use of deadly force our tactics training um practices uh result in a high level of safety so last last year we only had five minor injuries to the subjects and those five minor injuries also include things like um they weren't actually hurt but they wanted to see a medic or our policy requires them to be checked out by Medic or they required some Decon so for example when we use pepper ball um our officers are required to do some decontamination to mitigate the prolonged effects of the pepper ball and they're required to be checked out by a paramedic and so that's going to be represented in this five minor injuries right we um didn't have any uh subjects that required transport or any significant Medical in medical treatment likewise uh we didn't have any real significant injuries to our officers uh we had one twisted ankle that resulted in a few hours lost so a very safe year for everybody involved which we're very proud of so when our use of force Review Committee takes a look at these incidents right first of all they looking at is this reasonable and is it within policy 100% of those incidents were deemed reasonable and within policy five of them were identified as opportunities to improve whether it was a training issue tactics um doing a better report things like that we didn't have any of those cases that were referred to command for internal affairs investigations and once again I'm proud to say I think this is the 30 in a row zero citizen complaints regarding use of force which um I don't no another agency that can report that same that same number I can't tell you how um how Monumental and important and hard to achieve that is right um when we're using force on on people in the community it's not something that they're happy about and so even if we do everything right they're very very likely to call and complain um or have ideas of how we could do it better and so for three years in a row to say that we haven't had any assistent complaints is a true Testament to the fact that we're doing everything right and our officers are doing this in a very professional manner so some of the themes to sum this up um force in general is very seldomly used deadly force is extremely rare um most of the time we're resolving these incidents with deescalation and CIT strategies or the mere threat or display of of um Force being used our injury rates are very low which indicate our tactics and training are very effective um and our officers are doing a great job they're making great decisions they're being very professional and um they're doing it um in a way that represents the department very very well question so far yes ma'am I have a question not related to use of force but the call volume seems like it really went up in 2023 any themes or any is that something you guys are digging into to understand why sure there's a couple things that contri to that um one is our community is growing and so naturally that's just going to generate more calls for service um probably the most significant reason there was a huge jump is we um really stressed uh or emphasized our officers to do a better job of documenting the work that they've been doing for years and years and so we've gotten over the years they got kind of lack about logging in their park checks and their business checks and their Community engagement um they were doing the work they just weren't hit the keystrokes to give themselves in the in our department credit for the work they're doing and so we really stress we want you to log the stuff and so that represents the bulk of that jump okay makes sense thank you not a question but just a comment as a commissioner and a resident it just put your mind at e that you guys are doing such a great job and just want to applaud you and the whole team of of our officers and the work they're doing and the thing that I heard too is you're looking for improvement too even though you could rest on your laurels right now pretty pretty St substantially but you're not you're constantly looking for process Improvement and that's important so thank you so much for that Absolutely I'll make sure I bring that message back to the guys and gals anything else before we change gears a little bit and talk about training all right so our use of force program and their our use of force statistics wouldn't be so good if it wasn't for our training program thanks to the support of our city leaders um with the hero Center and the amount of time and money and resources that we have dedicated to training um that's the only reason that we can um have that I can report these numbers to you is because we have the time the money the resources to invest in training all right statistically we know that agencies that don't invest in training um pay more in lawsuits and liability and injuries in the long run right if you invest on invest on the front end on training you can mitigate those numbers so our goal is to exceed the Minnesota post board standards promote professionalism and professional development make sure that our officers are very proficient in their duties right there's some um skill sets that you don't have time to look up right um there's some information that we don't have time to look look up there are lives on the line um when we're called upon to rescue a hostage they need to be very very skilled and knowledgeable about how to do that when those tactics are appropriate um and so those are perishable skills right so we need to practice those throughout the year even though we don't actually do real life hostage rescues very often but when we're called upon public demands that we're go at our jobs right that requires training time um also there are those um lower lower stress lower priority issues um that that the officers need to understand to they need to essentially know every law every statute uh every ordinance um when the public calls us there they expect us to know all of that stuff um and that requires training for our officers to stay fresh and current on that uh and our practices and laws are constantly constantly changing year to year to year and so again requires a lot of training time so our goal is basically to provide the best service to our citizens that we possibly can can knowing that lives are at stake uh there's a lot of liability there's a lot of safety at risk um so this past year we really wanted to emphasize leadership development uh we had a lot of turnover this last year we had a lot of promotions a lot of people in new roles just a lot of growth and a lot of newness in the department this last year and so with that we we've devoted a lot of time to um Everybody understanding their roles and responsibilities and developing those new leaders in their in their roles we continue to emphasize risk mitigation and deescalation uh as I talked about we implemented uh a lot of tactics and training surrounding Vehicles what we noticed in 2022 is that a lot of our close calls and injuries and liability was in and around vehicles um pursu suits and use of force around Vehicles things like that and so we put a lot a lot of emphasis this past year on making that safer and smarter and so a lot of this is is pretty redundant from the last year um so I won't focus any time on that but as you can see from this chart you can see that at a bare minimum our officers are getting 92 hours of inservice training per year um and on the right you can see how the those numbers are um devoted right it's not 92 hours of shooting and wrestling it's everything from mental health health awareness to officer Wellness to First Aid to anything you can think of um and so as I said 92 hours is the minimum the officers have an opportunity to go to professional development leadership trainings external courses and so on average our officers are doing a about 150 to 200 hours of of training per year um and then if you're in special he's of course you know like an officer who's a swap member might be doing 500 hours of training per year so as I said uh we gave officers the opportunity to drop their baton this past year and most of them now are carrying the pepper ball blast in its place so this is based on the pepper ball system but it does not shoot a um spherical ball that contains uh a pepper powder it just shoots a cloud of pepper powder right it's got an effective range of about 10 feet it can be used at a one foot standoff it's really intended to as a self-defense tool so if somebody's attacking me um I can pull this thing out deploy it shoot a p cloud of pava into their face and deter them uh it could be also be used to buy me time space and distance because we know that um where we don't want to be in a position where I'm close to an offender who's attacking me and I don't have time to think about my options and um I need to make a snap decision under stress and so this gives me the opportunity to use this create some time time distance and separation and um either get away from the problem or use my tools and brain to control the problem in a smarter way uh so one of the things that we uh have been working on recently through we work through the budget process is getting new tasers so taser informed us at the end of 24 that our current tasers will no longer be supported uh after 2025 and so um we're working with Council to hopefully secure the funding to get new tasers in 2025 um I'll leave it at that we also did get or invest in robots and drones so again we're trying not to put officers in positions where they're In Harm's Way or we need to make decisions in close proximity with time compression um so we'll put technology in there to scout a um location out or communicate with that offender or subject um and that's just safer for everybody involved this is a pepper ball pistol uh so our csos and reserves were formerly carrying tasers we decided that the taser is not the best tool for them taser is really a control tool versus a self-defense tool and so we decided that this pepper ball pistol would be a better um self-defense tool for them so they've been equipped and trained with this tool um we haven't had any deployments yet I don't expect to have very many of these um ever I mean we don't I can't think of a single taser deployment um from our Reserve or CSO programs ever so I think this will be very much the same probably will never have a deployment if we do it would be very few but it gives them an option to defend themselves if they if they find themselves in that situation so to kind of wrap up everything we've been talking about I'd like to just um bring your attention to this incident um where it talks about our officers being uh demonstrating the best tactics best practices having great equipment great training um working well as a team and having a very good outcome without all the things we've been talking about tonight this could have had a very different outcome all we were called to an address where family was calling 911 saying their family member was experiencing a mental illness or Mental Health crisis and he's threatening to kill family so our Patrol officers arrived uh very quickly and evacuated the family members to safety and at that point once the family members are out and there's nobody else In Harm's Way we can really slow down that incident um focus on creating time distance space and negotiating with that subject and using our CIT skills and that's exactly what we did um we we made contact with the the subject who is inside try to use our negotiation skills we even had SWAT negotiators come try to talk this person out of the house meanwhile our officers are using things like robots drones Shields pepper ball 40 mm um to have all those plans in place if we needed them um after a lengthy period of time we realized that due to this individual's U severe mental health crisis we weren't going to be able to talk him out of the house and so we implemented a tactical plan using pepper ball to coax him out of the house and so that's what we did we used the pepper ball he surrendered peacefully and then we got him into custody and got him to the hospital where he needed to be to get care so great outcome for everybody involved um great demonstration of all these tools and tactics in policies that we have to have a great safe outcome real quick I'll talk about SWAT as you know we have a multi-jurisdictional SWAT team that comprises about 70 to 80 members throughout the county it's a tier two SWAT team um tier one being the highest um so we're a tier two tier T excuse me tier 2 SWAT team that's capable of everything including hostage rescues so the theme continues here where um our call volume is increasing annually uh the major reason for that is is SWAT U made a decision about two years ago to do a lot more proactive work meaning we're um getting involved in community events so rather than responding reactively when there's a problem we're deploying proactively to make sure or to try to prevent uh problems so for example at Strawberry Fest you see SWAT officers there at Lumberjack days and still out you're seeing uh SWAT there to try and deter any problems but also we're engag in the community and learning from the community teaching the community um recruiting uh it's a great opportunity for SWAT to get out there and engage with the community so um what you're seeing there are 64 missions last year u a large number of those were those security missions or or Community engagement missions so in fact 22 of them were qrf 24 or PR PR events um very few of them were traditional swap missions um five warrant Services one hostage rescue six bar I'm sorry zero barricaded individuals and three Mutual Aid calls where we're called to henpen county or Dakota County to help them out so really only less than 10 traditional swap missions whereas in past years you would see you know the neighborhood of 20 to 30 and that's um again we're teaching our our officers to deescalate a lot of these situations or not doing those high-risk search warrants that were very typical for SWAT to do in the past we're finding smarter ways to get those people into custody we're giving our Patrol officers the tools and training to resolve a lot of these situations safely that would otherwise have been swap missions in the past so you're seeing those traditional swap missions decrease we didn't do any noock nighttime search warrants last year um we do still Reserve that ability to do those for very very high risk situations um but uh we did not have any last year and in the past years um there have been very few of those because we're doing things like surrounding call outs where we'll show up to a search warrant surround the house use negotiators to call the subject out to us rather than doing those high-risk Dynamic search warrants that aren't safe or smart for anybody so like I mentioned earlier our SWAT officers are getting a lot of training uh that's by virtue of ntoa Standards they're getting at minimally 190 hours of SWAT training per year to stay proficient in all those high-risk skills and and knowledge um we did order a brand new armored vehicle so now we're going to have three armored vehicles in Washington County so as you know Washington County poses some geographical challenges with its shape um it's very difficult to cover that County with our current um two armored vehicles Les the response times are just not satisfactory so Sheriff's Office purchased a new bear cap which will be here uh by the end of the year hopefully and so we'll have three pieces of of armor in the vehicle to respond sooner um one of the kind of unique things that we're doing is our negotiators and our Tech operators are being cross trained as tactical operators so what we found is as we try to use our negotiation skills and Cit it was sucking our negotiators closer and closer to the problem where historically they would be in a command post or a trailer or someplace offsite communicating with the subjects um in order to talk to some of these individuals they're having to be too close to the problem um which causes some potential problems obviously and so we wanted to give them all the tools training skills to uh be comfortable in this situation so we're cross trining them as if they were tactical operators um but their primary focus is still negotiations or operating drones robots things like that lot of information I try to summarize it as much as possible but I'd love to hear some of your thoughts or feedback guidance for the robots do they have certain kind of like I guess training or programming that they go through too or how are they the operators Yeah well yeah cuz you said there's drones and robots right so I don't really know what to picture when you say a robot so I just don't know sure how that works yeah so we have um quite a number of different robots so some being very small from you know smaller than a shoe box to some being as big as this Podium and they give us different capabilities the small ones basically we can drive into a situation and just get uh get get to see what's in there but we can't interact with the environment besides just seeing um we do have some that can do two-way communication so we can drive that robot in there have two-way Visual and two-way communication where we can talk to a person um from a safe distance we have others that we can drive in that have manipulator arms that can grab things lift things carry things you know do all the things that you see on the movies so um and um yes to operate any and all of those there's different degrees of training that our operators go through so same thing for the drones we have drones that are meant to be outside we have drones are meant to be inside to to fly combined spaces and uh operators are trained to fly those as well so they're not like self-operated it's always somebody doing nothing they're always operated by a person okay yep and then I also had one more question too um for the fireball pistol I mean the fireball P pepperall pepper ball piz look like Fireball no um how will that be placed like I guess I know there's going to be training for that but there's also been um you know I thought I grabbed my Taser but I grabbed my gun and that's kind of the same you know structure is that something that is kind of like being focused on or how are they placed on the same side or like how does that work and so for that very reason our sworn officers our police officers will never carry a pepper ball pistol um only our non-sworn officers so our csos and our reserves because they don't carry a pistol so they'll be carrying that on their duty belt on their strong side um it's very brightly marked as you know it's yellow it doesn't look like a a fire but there we've there will never be an opportunity for an officer to use that we've we've written that into our policy that the sworn officers won't even pick up that pepper ball pistol they're prohibited by policy from using it I would just think that would be hard like it's such a quick decision like how to you know oh gosh what did I grab so yeah that's a real thing and so we don't want our officers carrying both pistol and pepper ball pistol I like that thank you yeah that was gonna be one of my that was exactly my question is um our officers still using tasers and if no were they going to replace them with the pepper ball pistol so the answer is no I got that but yep that's great news yep um and then one more quick question regarding the SWAT thing that you just went over um you said you had 64 record-breaking missions which is fantastic but what I didn't know is were they real events or were they practice events or were they Partnerships with other communities those are all real events um let's see let's go back to that slide so I can site stats so 24 of those were public relations events so they invited us to come to talk to the Boy Scouts or um they wanted us to do a recruiting table at Park High School for their career day that would be a PR event um the qrf event is more of a security mission where um we're invited to be there you know three four operators will be there for a Strawberry Fest to try and deter or respond to any problems that happen um so 46 out of those events were proactive in nature not real incidents um six of those were hostage rescue or warrant service things of that nature so excellent sounds like you guys had a great year last year yeah those are the years we like to see where we can get out engage with the community and not respond to problems that's a great year thank you well done congratulations anybody else any other questions no thanks for the data and the transparency and I really appreciate the balanced approach of safety for the community as well as for your officer so it's really good to see great thank you I EO that thank you for your passion to keep our community safe it's much appreciated thank you actually just came up with something uh the new barcat uh have you guys determined like pre-staging locations yet so let's still up to some discussion um the thought is one the brand new one one will be at the Sheriff's Office of course uh cuz they're buying it uh the old Bearcat which is probably going to be refurbished the thought is that's going to go to the Forest Lake Hugo area and then we'll keep our M wrap for now and so there's some discussion um and so wiggle room how we're going to move those chest pieces around um but that's the initial thought so cool I just wasn't sure if we needed to start having some foresight for facilities to store this thing or I wish I would love to have the Bearcat but we'll see we ready to shift gears talk about hunting maps we are ready to talk about let's move right into hunting maps all right so before you you'll have a memo that has the recommendations on it sorry I'm struggling to find my I'll get there just grab my thumb drive it be easier that [Applause] way as I'm doing this I'll try to multitask and talk it'll so so the memo recommends the changes to the archery map oh that's it great thank you right betov it's all right so this is the 2425 hunting seasons archery map which you see displayed here and uh it has the recommended changes already made to it um I also have available the 23 24 hunting map so the previous version if you so wish to see and compare the changes but essentially um the planning department has recommended um a couple changes so first we're removing uh parcel of land in the southwest portion of the city uh which is adjacent to the dnr's um land at about 103rd in Hadley we're moving two Parcels of land at 90th in Kats and small piece of land by H Glenn farms in East Point Douglas Road another small portion by Highway 61 and Kimber Avenue and two Parcels in the north part of of the city near 65th Street and so um the police department is is um in support of these recommendations if you so wish to discuss them or um identify these a little bit closer on the map we can work through that um do you wish to have that discussion at this time or you want to just go ahead with that recommendation can I just ask is it primarily because of development or because of requests from homeowners it's all development related um so some of this has been rezoned or now it's too close to um you know something got developed on the adjacent parcel so now it's too close things like that sure um I should also say that um there hasn't been any significant changes to our hunting ordinances um as you can see from the memo there no hunting related complaints last year we did have a couple complaints of I'm hearing gunshots throughout the town um we did have one complaint that an arrow ended up in my yard but they weren't hunting related uh so zero hunting complaints last year so our ordinances are um very effective doing what they're supposed to do um our hunting map is doing what it's supposed to do so we don't see any reason at this point to make any significant changes other than those um five minor changes that I outlined can you Circle the areas that you just mentioned that you're going to remove or something it was hard for me to track that as fast as you said it so first one is right down here at 103d in Hadley is this triangular pink shaped portion um so there's no archery currently or is that is this a proposed map so this both so um formerly there was hunting allowed in this triangular area so last year you could hunt there and we're proposing now that there should not be hunting there okay so the pink is what we're proposing okay got it and 90th and Keats which would be right in that area right in okay here is there was a couple spots where you could hunt B but okay so but there's still six little yellow plots right there too is that okay yeah so those are what no you're good Dave you know so they can hunt on their own land sure obviously can't go hunt on property without I'm good with that I just figure out why we move some but not others but they're private residents okay hope Glenn and East Point uh see so right down in this area and I apologize I don't know the exact parcel the general area is good and 65th it' be up higher yeah yeah right up in here somewhere okay yeah thank you for that I can check that way and then so this is what we just talked about is related to archery we're not recommending any changes to the Firearms map so we don't I don't see any reason to to change that based on the development or future plans at this point so I'm okay with moving forward with that recommendation ready any other questions okay all in favor of adop I'll make a motion that we accept the hunting maps as been presented this evening I'll second all in favor say I I any questions thank you for unanimous decision so moved thank you all right so we are up um thank you that for that we are up to commission comments any comments questions concerns for the commission want to bring forth okay that means staff reports and I saw Gary getting pretty ansy you want to go first this this okay great good good evening everyone good evening uh so the big thing we got the thin overlay started about two weeks ago we're out in Old Cottage Grove off of 77 Street kind of by the old fire station there um a lot of pleased residents pretty much finished up them three streets off 77 that were in pretty bad shape uh we're looking this year about putting down about 2,000 tons in that process um we have two interns that have started ashbo treatment they got roughly about 450 trees to treat they do roughly about 30 a day uh we got two sweepers out sweeping the business district so anytime it hasn't been raining they've been out uh mowing we got the big tractor you probably seen out like rural areas so he can only make one pass back again that's kind of been limited with the amount of rain but we're getting caught up on that and then our storm water guys are they're in catch basins that hat actually have cement rings in them under that metal grate you see so they're doing what's called a tuck pointing process and that's between the Rings they tuck point mud in there and that prevents big cave-ins that can cause the road to cave in and up to a $5,000 process to get that thing back in and they can get in and out in about 20 minutes per catch Basin so that's the highlights of the street department and Forestry and storm any questions for me all right thank you thank you up next do you want to go around yeah I think I covered all the road and project updates but there's one other Public Works update I would like to add um that's related to our lead service line inventory project so um a little while back the Federal EPA had revised or lead Caper rules that required every water supplier in the country to inventory every Water Service connected to their water system really looking for lead service lines now what interesting in cage Grove is we we know we do not have lead service lines um just from our experience and and really how new of a city we are um but the challenge is is you have to have proof of that either through construction specifications a city ordinance um what is it 1981 lead was just banned right so you know after that everything would not be lead but there's about 1300 homes that were built between 1958 and 1961 that were before our city ordinance went into place requiring coer services and uh those three uh neighborhoods uh southside of High 61 um you know in that Thompson Grove neighborhood and one of the Thompson Grove Estates kind of by Armstrong Elementary uh we know their copper water services many of our employees live there we just we know what's in place but you have to have proof um and unfortunately the construction specs were by a different company um not the engineer bonus T that the city signed on with in 1961 so we have to physically do survey inspections to show that so a lot of communities did a a kind of self-completed survey process so residents in those areas received a letter few weeks ago with just a QR code and it's very simple goes right to a GIS database that we created they just put their address um and then show a picture of their service line shows that it's copper which we know it is and that's completed so um about 100 150 of those have been completed we're sending out another letter asking for residents to do the survey with another twoe window um but at that point we will have to com work to complete them all ourselves with our own staff so um a little bit of a of effort for our utility department um but it's it's the requirement we're still better off you know cities like St Paul have over 100,000 surveys services and they've been doing this for years to try and document those so so we'll get through it but if you hear about this letter that folks are receiving I know when they got it a few folks thought it was is this legitimate what is this right um even though we have all of our information on there it is the city of K Grove asking for this for about those 1300 homes so if you know someone who who asked you about that it is a survey we're looking for them to complete so that's my only update perfect thank you how many did you get back right now we're at about 150 so we're hoping with our second round letter if we can get to three or 400 um we're we're trying to get as many as we could without our staff but it will be very quick we're actually planning to probably just start while we do our metor appointments and things like that we're doing them naturally uh to check more off but we'll just start you know either calling folks are just going door too and seeing if they're available because it'll take us about 2 minutes to to complete it so very quick so yeah that QR code idea whoever that was was fantastic I don't know if he stole it from somebody else or who who generated that but that's Dynamite idea yeah it was actually really slick where our Administration team could develop the code and our own GIS staff could create the database and it feeds right into a database that the state is looking for so it'll go right to to them basically so very very quick and efficient so nice work yes and Mr Peterson all right so i' gave you a copy of our Core 2 newsletter and so feel free to review that digest that send any questions concerns my way I'll just highlight a couple of the U major things um so as you know we implemented the new strategic plans we're making tons of of progress on that and by all metrics and measures officers are in Department are doing a great job with all those goals and and uh strategic plans um really proud to say that we had four CPR AED saves in the last quarter so our Patrol officers saved four lives with with a rapid response with CPR and AED in the last quarter and um excited to say that uh we just posted for a our embedded social worker position so that's going to be a a great addition to our community impact team and that's going to really uh help uh address some of these Community issues like homelessness and chemical and alcoholism and and things mental illness things like that so um that was kind of the missing link of our community impact team and so getting that person on board is going to be a great asset along those same lines um we're really close to um implementing a therapy service canine and so we're putting together the final pieces of that so A couple funding and policy and acquisition pieces and so I'm about 90% sure that that's going to happen uh early in 25 so that'll be super exciting and then obviously you know this is uh our uh busy season for Community engagement in special events and so our officers are have been out hitting all those smaller events you know lemonade stands and playing in the park and things like that on a constant basis all day long but we're also um planning and and engaged in those bigger events like Strawberry Fest and our upcoming events like night to night and things like that so super busy engaging with the public uh some upcoming events we've got night toite on August 6th we have a cge Grove open house on September 16th and there also a Citizens Academy that's starting in October so if you know anybody who wants to learn more about the Department engag with the Department um we're still looking for some people to to fill that Citizens Academy out how do you sign up for the Citizens Academy either uh follow the link from our website or any of our social media or call one of our community impact team members or really just talk to anybody and we'll we'll get them hooked up so thank you but like I said there's tons of really good information in this newsletter so when you get a chance to digest that I'm sure you'll have some questions comments you can feel free to direct those my way anytime thank you thank you any other questions all right we will move on to council comments good evening everyone and uh so one of the things I'll say is that uh in terms of activity and and you guys have got the presentations too and we got both the fire and the police department strategic plans at Council and had very good discussions and they were received very well so it was excellent job that uh that was done and uh so uh good work um also I guess uh one of the other things that we're working on budget right now a lot so there's a lot of that activity uh also we just uh uh appreciate kind of response back but we just put out an offer for new uh new Communications uh manager and so forth so if there's things that you think would be better on how we communicate uh to the public or internally uh you know definitely now's a good time to kind of get some of those comments in uh you know talk to your your peers and your network and and everything else and and just see what there's there's certain things that people would like to see to uh to get better more complete communication because even sometimes when we think that we're we're doing a good job of communication you know you you talk to somebody say oh gosh I never heard about that right but so uh anything that we can do to improve that would be great um let's see oh the other thing talking about communication uh I think you all should have received recently the uh uh the water quality report and you know I kind of look through it looked pretty good and everything but definitely if if you have any feedback or comments related to to that and how we might be you know again better ways to communicate uh things to the public and so forth uh you know that'd be great to get feedback on so um did I forget anything else Ryan that was critical no a couple times I've tried to go take the the crisscross Road and it's it's just not ready yet but um so you guys have any questions for me all right there you go this I do this may not a Cottage Grove question um but the construction that's going on in 61 that they're preparing for with expect delays what what are they doing thanks ran yep that's a good question so as you head north I'm assuming you're talking about into Newport towards 494 so that's just some concrete pavement repairs so if you remember in ctage Grove last year it was much more extensive but we were down to one lane for probably a couple months um just some smaller repairs they had to do um to the concrete pavement so it was just last weekend then this coming weekend assuming the weather cooperates is when they'll be doing it so it was down to one lane over this past weekend you probably saw um so it is on the weekend so that helps minimize that traffic delay and then if everything goes well they'll do the same next weekend and then wrap up that work so that's huge that's great we did uh we did reach out to M that because the signs just said starts July 12th expect delays and that's very open-ended know what it was yeah so it was work on 80th Street though right before you got to 61 that that was part of that work was it or was that was separate yep that was a separate thing which I think caused a lot of people pain confusion so that wasn't related the other the other thing is being done on nights you know over week or over weekends right yep that's correct yeah but then correct mot did redo um that was a Mot job up because they own that 80 Street bridge and then the interchanges there um which that pavement was in terrible condition so they finally fixed that um but I know it was very painful for that day half during the day while they did that work um that's a little bit of a Band-Aid the city is going to be redoing the rest of 80th in 2026 and they're going to fully redo those interchanges as well um but the pavement was just so poor they had to do something so y thank you thank you hearing no other questions can I have a motion to adjourn I'll move that rejourn I second all in favor say hi hi unanimous vote meeting adjourned