All right. And now call the Wednesday, December 3rd, special school board meeting back to order. Member clerk, will you please take the roll call of attendance? >> Sure. All right. Member Tyson >> here. >> Member Rebeline >> here. >> Member Corkran >> here. >> Member Christensen >> here. >> Member Antonson is here and member Castle >> here. >> Everybody's here. >> All right. We're back in session and we have a full quorum. So um at the October or at the October at the November 20th uh board meeting we had decided on this process where we would break into two committees to determine up to five finalists. Each committee would select up to two finalists a piece. Um we've now concluded that work after finalizing the interviews. The first committee that we organized was member Tyson, member Christensen and member Corkran with member Corkran chairing that committee. So, I guess I will turn it over to member Corkran and ask who are your nominees? >> I guess I was cheering. Um, our [laughter] our two nominees are Jim Smith and Andy Corna. >> All right. And then uh the second committee was member Castle, member Antonson, and myself. And I chaired that committee. And our finalists were um Mr. Dobenzinski and Mr. Tuat. So with that, we have um five total finalists. And just a reminder to those in the audience, u Mrs. Durango was named a finalist um even though she was unable to interview this evening um due to the fact that she was the next highest vote getter in the 2024 election. All right. And I just want to make sure I get these names right. Okay. So, for tomorrow night, I will move to accept the following individuals as additional finalists for the appointment to fill the current board vacancy. Um, Mr. Jim Smith, Mr. Andy Cornia, Mr. Daniel Tuat, and Mr. Scott Dazinski. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on that? All right, just for clarification, that brings us to five total finalists uh because we did name um Mrs. Durango um in the resolution on the 20th. Any other questions, discussions? >> Um can I ask about next steps for tomorrow night? Like how are we going to proceed with >> making or >> We were just talking about that. Yeah, we were just trying to figure >> Yeah, I we didn't really talk about next steps, so I just was wondering how that worked. >> So, I'll start with what's on the proposed agenda. And what we declared in the resolution is we we did call for the special order of business on the December 4th board meeting to be the selection of the applicant to fill the board vacancy. I've thought of a number of different ways that we could go through this um from having all [snorts] six of us here site who would be our preferred candidate to um and maybe that will narrow things down. Maybe we'll be down to four or three after we do that and then working through that process uh with some discussion. But uh once I feel that we finally made a consensus, uh we do need to um finalize that with a resolution. So everything prior to the resolution is simply a discussion uh tomorrow night. So, we could have several rounds of voting that aren't done through motions, but are similar to when we elect schoolboard officers >> where we're simply kind of giving support for but not making an official vote until the resolution is in place. So, so the only official vote that we would have tomorrow night would be on the finalized resolution once we've identified somebody that we feel can at least receive a majority of support. >> Could you clarify that? That sure confused me. >> Yeah. >> So, did you say that we don't go the resolution is written before we vote? >> No, that the re that the resolution is the only official act that we would take. Prior to that, we may have a lot of dialogue back and forth where we might have a show of hands on saying, well, I would support candidate A. Um, other board members would support candidate B to help us narrow it down. >> And are we voting to narrow it down? We could if we get to a certain point where we see that, you know, one or two candidates aren't um going to meet a majority, we could make a motion to eliminate them from the the selection process or we could just choose informally to ignore them from the selection process and focus on the other candidates that have support behind them. Um so we we really that the our options are wide open. Um, >> so you're saying there'll just be discussion and hand w hand raising >> un unless we decide we'd like to do something further like if we want to take an official motion on each candidate to eliminate them. >> But uh we did define a resolution on the 20th that we would make a pick from one of these five names. >> So then we should define a scope of time perhaps to do the discussion kind of like we did for the interviews. We said 3 minutes, 20 minutes total. Um, >> well, can we keep Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. >> Sure. >> So, I don't know if that makes sense. >> Well, I if we don't agree is what you're saying, it could go on, >> right? I mean, we we have a full agenda and sit here all night. >> Do we stick to the two talking points, the rules for inputs here? >> No, I don't think so. I mean, this is very important. people want to know. >> Do we want to settle this motion accepting these finalists and then maybe talk a little bit about um how tomorrow night will go? >> Sure. >> All right. Is there any other discussion on accepting the finalists? >> Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> Those opposed. >> Okay, that motion carries. So, we do have our finalists now. Um yeah, I'm I'm wide open to ideas on how we want to address tomorrow night. Member Corkiny, do you have any ideas? I I just don't want it to go on for hours. I mean, because we're going to have a lot on the agenda and, you know, I think we need to do a time limit of some sort or some criteria. I just don't know what that is. Um, how many motions do we make? Is there a limit? Is there I don't know. Do we whittle it down to two? I mean, we'd have to have some procedure. >> Yeah, we do. I I mean, I think there does have to be some whittling down. And that's why I was saying like, do we stick to the the two? We have a discussion, you know, I mean, times for the rules just so we can move things along until it comes to the I mean, >> yeah, I Yeah, that's my >> If member Christensen feels very strongly about it, I'm not trying to >> No. Can't not, you know. >> Well, I just think um I mean, I appreciate coming up with, you know, different ideas of how to go about this, but I do think that two speaking rule has been somewhat um controversial. people have said that they don't feel like their vote is being heard or their voices are being heard if we're representing people if you can only speak twice. And I just feel like this is, you know, really important and I feel that we should be able to speak freely, >> you know, on that point. I I agree and and actually the limitations on limitations on speech only apply to official motions on the table and and that that's why I'm suggesting that we do not have an official motion on the table until we feel that we've at least re uh reached a majority consensus >> at that point in time the official motion would come out. >> Well, we could still establish a time parameter. I I agree. Otherwise, it could be. >> How do we handle a time parameter then if we don't have a consensus at the end of the time limit? >> Well, we could um go to the agenda and then come back >> because we have declared this as the special order of business for tomorrow night. >> Yeah. But it still doesn't have to come to fruition. There's no >> before anything else. Yeah. Actually, the the special order of business is declarative in the sense that it must be resolved prior to continuing with any other board of business. >> I'm not familiar with your special order of business. >> No, I've never heard that term. I didn't hear that in the >> Is it on the agenda or >> let me grab it? Um, so if we look at the minutes for tomorrow night, >> you two have talked because Mark knows that >> No, that's the basic rule. I'm trying to rack my brain now. >> Let's look at the agenda. So we uh >> the order of business was or the resolution concluded the final point in the resolution was to um the special order of business of adopting a resolution naming one of the selected finalists to fill the seat vacated by former member Hagglund shall be scheduled to take place at the November 4th, 2025 board meeting. >> Okay, so we go to the rules. Um a special order any special order any um any unfinished special orders um are taken in sequence beginning with the special order that was pending when the meeting adjourned if adjourned with one of the um while one was pending and continue with the remaining unfinished special orders in the order that they were made. Um, no regular business actually occurs with a special order of business on the table until it is disposed of. >> And who and who put the that exact wording into who made that motion? >> Uh, we unanimously accepted that resolution. >> Whose motion was it? >> Um, I made the motion of the resolution. >> The person who knows Robert's rules of order the most made that. And then why is the motion stated [clears throat] as that on our agenda >> for tomorrow >> in board book? I don't believe it is stated as that. >> Special order >> under special business is the first action item for tomorrow night is item 7.1 selection to have application to build board vacancy in accordance to the resolution that was passed on the 20th. >> Okay. But it isn't stated with that wording. Um, it is it is labeled as special business. >> Is there which is different than how you're saying it? >> You're saying special order of business. >> Well, special business and special order of business are the same thing. >> So, we can't >> not to me. >> So, we can't conduct the rest of the meeting until that's resolved. >> Correct. >> Is that what that >> was over a barrel with that? >> That was the resolution that we passed on November 20th. Yes. >> Okay. And like member Christensen said, you made the motion. >> Yes. H >> interesting. Well, >> is there any is there any >> of the meeting? >> I would offer to the board that if >> if there is a >> an impass or >> a tie >> um and more time is needed for discussion or in order to move forward with the business, I believe a motion could be made to move beyond the special order table then. >> Totally. motion to table to move forward to the other business and then circle back. >> A motion to table a special order of business can be made but it needs to be accepted by twothirds majority of the board. >> And are you Dr. Massie talking about a motion within the same meeting to table and then come? What I'm speaking [clears throat] to is if there's a a a point in time through this process where the board can't come [clears throat] to a unanimous choice >> to table that mot that that that agenda item to proceed with the other business on the agenda >> and that's correct >> with the intent of circle suggest >> yeah me too >> that could be a pathway >> and I would I would just stress with the board that in addition to this item tomorrow, we have >> the approval of >> uh the 26 >> tax levy >> which is due which must be done before the end of December. >> Um which and the acceptance of the audit as well. >> Yep. >> Yep. Very important business to get done and >> Yep. So now you've strangle holded everything. The board unanimously decided on the special order of business >> and you made the motion. >> So, can we >> But I don't care. I can be here overnight. I'll just bring my pajamas, my slippers, my cot. >> I think we have five really good applicants here. I'm not worried. >> Can we Can we put a limit on it? I mean, we say one hour. >> You have a in the truth in taxation starts at six, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> so that has to happen first and then we have our 7 o'clock. >> Oh, yeah. >> Wait. >> Yeah. No, that the board meeting uh will take place immediately following the truth and taxation. >> So, we could be started at >> 6:30 6:45. It depends on what time uh >> the listening session and then >> Yeah. Are the reports going to build? >> Um yeah. So being that we're not taking any official action, the way that the proposed agenda is built right now is to uh the call of order um attendance approve the agenda. We have the listening session report and green cards. Um then we have positive happenings and then we have reports that include workshops and conferences, the city of Force Lake, MSBA, uh Dr. Massie superintendent report and then we move immediately into the special order of business. But prior to the special order of business, um it would be out of order for any motions to take place. >> Prior to we get to the special order of business or prior to >> to resolving it. >> Yeah. >> So I get I mean I don't understand why we would want to table anything. I think that if we want to get to work and figure this out, like we should really make a hard effort to do that tomorrow. And >> well, bring your pajamas. >> And like I said, I think we got I think we've got five really good names and it's just a matter of coming to consensus on one of them >> and uh we get that approved and then we move on with the rest of the business for the evening. So, we can't can we at least have a time limit on it because I feel like it it could be long and a really late meeting for all of us. So, I >> we we can't put a time limit on it without waving the rules that we agreed to on the 20th. >> A time limit on tomorrow evening's meeting. >> Well, on the the discussion if we can't come to consensus after one hour, >> we can always call the question. Yeah. >> Can we can we >> Yeah, we'll call the question over and over and over. >> Okay. and maybe we'll have our pajamas on by then and slippers and >> it just might be a late meeting. I guess I would offer the suggestion that we should all go back and we should go and uh we should review these five applications and we should determine which of these five names we can get behind and we should review the interviews and uh if needed >> if needed we should reach out to the five names in the list >> and we should do everything in our power to reach a consensus on one of these names tomorrow night. >> I agree. Okay. >> All right. With that, I would entertain a motion to turn. >> So moved. Second. Second. Motion a second. Is there any discussion? >> Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Those opposed, we're >> journ.