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November 6, 2025 - School Board Meeting of Forest Lake Area Schools
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I now call the Thursday, November 6, regular school board meeting for Forest Lake Area Schools to order. Please join us while we recite the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Member clerk, will you please take the roll call of attendance? >> Sure. All right. Member Castle >> here. >> Member Corkran >> here. Member Christensen >> here. >> Member Tyson >> here. >> Member Reveline >> here. >> And member Antonson is here. Everybody's here. >> All right. We have a full quorum. The very first thing on the agenda here this evening is a nomination for vice chair with >> I'm sorry. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. I checked that off. Um I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda. >> So moved. Second. >> All right. Motion a second. Is there any discussion? All right, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I I. Those opposed. All right, the agenda is adopted. And now my check marks are in order here. So back to uh nominations for vice chair with member Hagglund's resignation. We now have a vacancy vice chair. So we'll carry out this process in the same manner that we would during the organizational meeting. Um just a quick note, we do not have a legal requirement to have a vice chair. uh we only have a legal requirement per statute to have a chair, a clerk and a treasurer. However, the vice chair has been a great benefit to the district and there's been a couple of uh duties that have been bestowed upon the chair and the vice chair and um I personally do not like being that single appointee for those duties. So, I would like to nominate a vice chair to assist with those. So to kick things off, I would like to nominate member Corkeran uh for the vice chair role. Would you accept that nomination? >> I will. Thank you. >> All right. Um with that uh we will go through the uh are there any other nominations at least three times? If there any other nominations, please bring them forward. Um so do we have any other nominations for vice chair? Do we have any other nominations for vice chair? And one last time, do we have any other nominations for vice chair? All right. Seeing none, um, member Corkern, you are now the vice chair per acclamation. >> Okay. >> Um, thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. That will bring us to scheduled and unscheduled visitors. Let's start with the listening session. Member Corkran and member Tyson. >> Yes, we had five people visit and had some great discussion. We started out discussing the vacancy timeline and how that's going to work. Um it concludes December 4th and we also points that were brought up. We're replacing um the open position with a like-minded person. Uh we discussed the different pathways because we know the statute doesn't say much. It allows a lot of leeway. So um it also discussed was the next highest vote getter. So we discussed the different pathways. We also talked about it was brought up to us that the levy could be pulled back. um that we got a notice earlier um previously regarding this um and um just encouraging us to resend that board approved um voter board approved levy that's in now in state law statute. Um also we talked about the unfunded mandates to which there are quite a few universal meals ESST. We also talked about the strategic plan and a possible levy levy timeline for 2026. And that concludes my report. >> All right. Thank you, Member Tyson, member Parker. And is there anything to add? >> No, I think it's very thorough. Thank you. >> All right. Great. Any questions or comments on any thing from the report? >> All right. Seeing none, um I don't have any green cards. Do we have Okay, we have no green cards this evening. So, we will move on to student achievement. Uh, starting with the student report, Forest Lake Area High School student council. We'll start with Mrs. Brett. Some nice shiny faces. >> All right. Good evening. Um, my name is Amanda Brett. I am one of the adviserss of student council. Have been for 13 years at the high school. And so I'm going to let the kids and Jenny introduce themselves. >> I'm Jenny Bzard. I'm the other adviser and I've been the advisor for four years. My name is Sha Yang. I'm a My name is Shorty Yang. I'm a 12th grader. My name is Hoff. I'm also a 12th grader. I'm Claire Sullivan. I'm also a 12th grader. >> I'm Desi Emory and I'm a junior. >> All right. Tonight, we're going to let them take it away here and explain some of the things that we do over the course of the whole school year. >> Okay. So, we are the Forest Lake Area High School Student Council for the and we're the presidents of the vice president for the 2025 to 2026 school year. Our purpose is to share our past events that we've done, our current events we are doing, and upcoming events we plan to do. >> So, we actually start council off in the summer. So, this year, our president board went up to St. John's and we did a leadership retreat up there. It's put on by the state student council and it was just a really great bonding experience for us to learn how we all communicate, how we can lead effectively. It talked a lot about listening to other people and how to lead with empathy and kindness. And then we also camp in August and we bring the whole student council on that trip. It's always really fun. It's a great bonding experience just to see what students we have for the year and how we can all connect and get new ideas flowing. It also teaches problem solving in a way outside of the school. Um, something always goes wrong when you camp. My mom always took me camping. I know from personal experience. This year we got rained out. We ended up sleeping in the media center. Um, but it's just a really great way to get people bonding and communicating and teaching skills and problem solving. >> Our meetings are always on a Tuesday morning. If it's not on a Tuesday morning, then it's on a Monday afternoon. Our Tuesday morning meetings are always very quick. It starts at 7. Some members are earlier than me. I already get there at 6:40 to open the doors. They're just standing there waiting for me to open it. I'm [laughter] like, that's crazy. Um, but it just shows their dedication to student council and I can't be happier for that. Our Monday night meetings are longer. They're usually like two hours. We get to bond with each other. I know the first two [clears throat] meetings aren't the first two Monday night meetings aren't usually f filled with planning stuff, but as the months go on, we really want to encourage time together and work together and learn each other's names and just build memories together as a counselor. So, we start our year off with our annual senior sunrise. So, we invite all the seniors. So, this is the class of 2026. Um, we invite them all to join us on out on the football field. Um, and we had Babs cater some muffins this year as well. Um, it's basically just to welcome in the school year for our seniors and celebrate it being their last year of high school. Um, not the whole council doesn't put this on, but we make the posters and kind of plan stuff. So, it's more of like the student council school board, student council board doing it. Um, we got rained out this year. Um, and everybody ended up at McDonald's, so it was more just a big celebration at McDonald's this year rather than actually on the football field. And then it brings us to homecoming week. We do homecoming week because it spreads like spirit like school spirit the beginning of the school year. And we like to dress up which as you can see some of them are like generation day dress as your crush which student council comes up with. And we also go to the elementary schoolers and like spread it spirit to them too. And we've done girls flag football which was really fun and different this year. Um, we also did the royalty video with the royalty court which was fun to walk around and talk to their teachers that they like. And we did the homecoming dance on the Saturday that week. And we also did a movie on the field too, which people could come out onto the baseball field and watch a movie, which is really fun. Our homecoming week is always our most successful week, I would say. Um, I feel that people, it really brings people together, especially that Friday before the football game. And I know the seniors love being a part of the spirit bus. I personally love being a part of this year myself. And we're very proud that two student council members won for homecoming court. So, we got a little bit of representation there. >> Yeah, it wasn't rigged, but they did it. [laughter] We're so proud. [clears throat] >> And we always have homecoming with a purpose. And so, our charity this year was Rangers Supporting Rangers. It's very involved in the community. What they do is they have food donations and then they pack those food donations in backpacks and send them to elementary schoolers, middle schoolers, high schoolers all around the district. It allows kids to take food home without being like people know that they're taking it home. It's just like they're taking another backpack. So, I think we raised >> 7,000 88,000 $778. >> Yes. So, a lot of money to that charity and it's really important especially in this time and then our court goes and helps pack those food bags and it just really brings everyone together and it shows real impact on our community. >> Um, lately we've been trying to keep our homecoming with a purpose with more local and in our community just to like support our community the best we can as well. This past October, we did your words matter. It was a campaign that was brought by our previous student council presidents and vice president. And we were so happy to continue this campaign. Your words matter is just really about anti-bullying and making sure that you're aware that your words do matter and that they do impact others even if you don't think they do. It was in this October and we let our homecoming queen and king be a part of this campaign and help lead it. So with with the picture on the there left for you guys. Um, we did post-it notes. Post-it notes were posted and it had words of encouragement to help others. I know like one sticky note was like, "You're doing the best you could." And I know I wrote like, "You're doing great." Like it was just super fun to see everybody involved. We had student council members passing out bracelets of yours matter because they were like from last year and we had a bunch and so we just were like throwing them out to students. Our cafeteria ladies were nice enough to wear the shirt. >> We did encourage everybody in the school to wear orange that day. And then on the picture to the very right is signatures that people pledged to use their words for good. We were super happy to continue that campaign. >> So this year we did something new for our month of October. We hosted our first ever track. So, we invited all of the elementary school kids within our district at all of elementary schools to join us um October 30th out on the track. So, we set up a bunch of different little booths and activities that they could go to. So, it was kind of like just more activities based rather than your normal track or treat or trunk or treat. Um we invited a bunch of different clubs to come and support us as well. So, we had SAD had a booth, our rice club had a booth, so did Link and >> NHS. NHS had a booth and Triam also had a booth. So, we had a great turnout for that. I We heard a lot of feedback from families that their kids loved it. They loved that it was more activities based rather than just their kids getting candy. Um, so it was super successful and we all had a lot of fun. I loved seeing the little kids run around and enjoy themselves. It was cute. So, our student council is part of like the state council and we're in the capital division. So, we met up earlier end of October to communicate with our other Capitol division schools and we were talking about how we could spread leadership for like helping everybody and ways to communicate better with the students in our school and good brainstorming ideas to bring to our school. So now we're going to move into our upcoming events that we have coming up for this year. Our custodian [clears throat] and lunch room appreciation is coming up very soon. This is just our time to appreciate our custodian because they're very short staffed and they work long hours. And then our lunchroom appreciation where they always like overworked with the students always wanting lunch right away. Like that chicken tender line, oh my gosh, [laughter] it's like it's like filled and like it's never ending. And I just feel so and like we just want to appreciate them because November is just full of appreciation. >> That's great. And then we do a lot of events also giving back to our community. One of my personal favorites is our blood drive. The Red Cross comes in and we always get a lot of student participation. This one holds a special place to my heart because my when I was born, my mom was saved by blood donations. So, it's always really encouraging to see everyone come out. And it really does make an impact in our local community. And then we also do the toy drive where we collect toys from students in the school and then we give them to a organization that sets up a shop for parents so that they can come in and for free buy the toys for their kids and give them Christmas presents. >> We also have schoolwide activities. Um our hot cocoa day, we always hand out hot cocoa that is also sponsored by Babs. We're so thankful because like she comes in at 6:00 a.m. and like we have to lunge it around the school. Um it's not that fun, but we do enjoy seeing the students have like smiles when they walk into the school. >> We also have a schoolwide bingo that's usually at the end of this before we go on break and like you can hear students run and like those students like run laps around the school looking for like a station full of gifts and everything just if they get bingos. Mhm. >> And then we do Valentine Grams where we are kind of nosy and we're like, "Okay, let's see who wants to send something." And it's always fun. We have our council members give it out during some classes. And it's always just amazing to see like how involved students want to be. >> During we have a winter wonder week, which is kind of like homecoming, but during the winter time to still like have school spirit. We do like dress up days as well. So like we did ugly sweater one day, twin day, um PJ day as well. It's also when we do the hot cocoa and the school bingo is during that week. And we've done a boys volleyball and during the pep fest they did it against teachers which is kind of fun to see. And they also did where the MC's said to grab something from the crowd and then they ran and tried to grab it as fast as they could. And we also did a mattress race too where we blew up air mattresses and they raised which is really fun. >> Um so we also have our mental health week which happens in the month of May. Um we kind of partner up with NHS for this. So our activities run throughout the whole week and then we partner up for a specific day where we go out to the elementary schools and we teach kids throughout all the grades about the importance of mental health. We do fun activities with them. We eat lunch with them. we go to recess with them. They love seeing us and we love doing it. Um, more of our activities within the school, we try to do like fun activities during lunch like maybe writing thank you cards or or doing like fun exercises, things like that. Um, we've been trying to expand our mental health week a little bit more. Um, but I would say our biggest day during that week is that mental health day and going to see the elementary schools. >> Yeah, the elementary schoolers love us. They love seeing the high schoolers. Both my and I actually ran schools last year, so we were in charge of an elementary school and like getting everyone doing their stuff and it's really fun. They look up to us a lot and we can really see again that local community impact and it means a lot. >> And then our state student council does host a state convention. It's always like in May or April, one of those is last year was hosted in Hibings Hibings and it was like a 2-hour driveish. It really >> Yeah. >> It felt like the ride there is always a journey because you get to like you're stuck. >> There were some arguments in the car. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> And then like it's always like two day two days and three nights or something like that and you really get to know your student council members, their snoring habits, um howy [laughter] they are during this week. Yes. But overall we do get more involved with um other state other school student councils and we bring in ideas. They last year they did try to make like what is it like a donation where student councils were packing stuff for the homeless and it's just so fun. They always bring in a guest speaker and like getting to see different schools that are like far away. Like you get to see their amazing architecture architecture. Yes. and it was like amazing. Hipp is a beautiful school. Their auditorium is insane. We fell in love. They also do little fun um like they have a theme for the state convention. So like last year it was Disney day or like Disney themed. So we all dress up as like Disney characters. So they try to throw some fun in it as well. >> And we try to bring student council members who want to go. We It is very selective but we try our best to involve everyone. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> THANK YOU. >> [applause] >> WE ARE ALSO OPEN to any questions you guys might have. Sorry. >> Does anybody have any questions or comments? >> Wow. Well, my heart is full. I am blown away with all the stuff the student council does. Do you ever feel overwhelmed? >> Yes. [laughter] >> To be frank, yes. Um, I would say so, but that's also because I take pretty hard classes as well. So, wow. >> Yeah, >> we all but we're all here to support each other. We do it well and we do it all the time. So, >> but your dedication is just so impressive and how you just touch all areas and facets of the school, you know, staff appreciation, anti-bullying, homecoming. So, you just like hit the ground running when school starts. >> We had to hit start running um earlier this year because it was a week earlier. So, we were defin we were sprinting at that point. >> Oh my gosh. What What inspires you to to to do all this work for your student body? >> We just really want to involve everyone and we want to make sure that it's a safe place for all our students. We do know that it's very diverse and that everybody has their own needs, but like our motivation is just to make sure that they know that they do belong at a school. >> Wow. >> Everyone has stuff going on at home. Everyone has a story and just really connecting everyone and giving them a place to be uplifted and a good community is really important. >> Wow, that is so impressive. And you know that whole you talk about the community impact, >> it it's so important. [clears throat] And when you get to work with those younger elementary kids, I can just tell that you guys really embrace that work and love that connection. So, thank you for all your work and have a great rest of the year. Um, I went to the pepfest. That thing runs like a welloiled machine. It's so entertaining. There's so much going on. >> Wow. And then Amanda is busy. She's just everywhere. So, >> she's running around. That's my most nervous day. [laughter] >> And we'll we'll we'll tell Steve someday why. But [laughter] when he was principal, he used to stand behind me and ask me how if it was going on time and whether it was going to get done. And it was it was always but it's fun cuz it's so public. It's so but they're fun and they come up with the craziest ideas like those mats that were like they were blow up mattresses and you threw yourself on it and across the gym and it's >> one popped and they got and one popped and kept going. They kept going. >> Oh my gosh, it was so fun. Well, thanks for all you do. I'm sure other board members want to comment on your >> your presentation. Well, she said it so eloquently, but um the mental health week, I'm sure that is I mean, you know that everybody has their struggles and how just even the interaction that you guys have that day might just really be so wonderful for that student because they might be struggling with something they can't talk about or just having the interaction and you just don't know the impact that you're having for those students. So, but yeah, I mean I'm tired just listening to your presentation. I mean, you guys are just dynamos. That's amazing. But so are you I mean I love that the the trickor treat event that so is that something you're going to continue to maybe grow next year because it's so it's so different and that's what I like about it. >> We hope so. >> It was really successful. A lot of them really loved it. It's kind of like the school we took a lot of inspiration from the school carnivals that they do kind of at the end of the year and I know for NHS I've helped out with those before and it's just it's a lot of fun and so we hope to continue it and let it grow. >> It'd be nice to get more groups. I mean as as the word will spread how great it was then more students will come next year too. So how many students do you think you had there? Do [clears throat] you have any idea of a count? I'm just curious. >> Hundreds or was it >> I would say we probably had aboutund 150 >> elementary school kids. One of the things that was really fun is like all of our football coaches were able to bring their kids that night >> because they couldn't go trick treating with their kids because of the game. So like Brad was really happy and they all brought them >> and we didn't you know when you plan an event like that you have no idea right you could have five kids >> could have a ton 500 and so it was 5:00 hit and people started flooding in and we were like okay >> well that's a great option for families but thank you I think you guys just [clears throat] do a great job and I said you must by the end of this year you're probably just like okay I'm gonna take a breath now. [laughter] All right, member Castle. >> So, how many students are members of the council? >> Um, this year I would say we have about 40 this year. >> Um, last year we had about 60, but I think this year we narrowed it down more to actually like have people who really wanted to be a part of our group and who like at our group this year is great. They all work really hard. They all work well together. They're really open to working together. So, I think we got really lucky with the 40 kids we have this year. >> So, and that that fluctuates throughout the year. >> It's an application process and so students have to apply in the spring and then we take so many per grade and um then so like we probably had about 100 a little over 100 applications and we narrowed it down to 40. >> So, yeah. And we don't we don't add during the school year. It stays that 40 group throughout. So, if a student transfers into the district, they would not be allowed. >> Like, we actually have one student this year that's a transfer student that's a senior and um she's actually on my case load since I'm a dean at the high school and she when she came in and I met her over the summer was on her high school student council. Um, and so she, you know, we talked about it and she wanted to join. And so kind of it's a case by case basis and like our deans know as kids come in and asking them kind of what they're involved in, um, it is something that we save a few spots if that happens and and we get them sometimes we have a foreign exchange student. Last year we had a foreign exchange student. Um, that was part of the council too. So >> and then what kind of participate participation do you have in during the meetings from the other students? >> Um so we well our activities are committee basis. So we organize them into little groups and basically we just work within their committees to do like their activity like this our new set of committees. We have like blood drive toy drive our lunch and custodian appreciation. So they're the little group. So it's like blood drive working on the blood drive and so on and so forth. So they all just work together in their own small group throughout our meetings. >> We're just here for guidance and then they come up with the ideas. [clears throat] >> Oh, they're pretty organized and >> that's impressive. Yeah. I love that. I mean, >> you know, I'm a female. I love seeing four young female leaders standing up there um running these different programs that you're doing. It's very impressive and I [clears throat] I thank what you do. Thank you. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> Member Christensen. >> Well, I'd just like to add um you know, you already spoke a little bit about being at the elementary schools, but you are so correct that they just love to see you guys and when you're able to sit and have lunch with them and you know, they just look up to you guys so much. And of course, the spirit bus is so fantastic. And I love that you guys are raising money. Homecoming with a purpose. You know, the pep fest was really fun with the teachers in the inflatable costume. >> That was good. you know, I mean, but um and I love most what you said, just making people feel welcome and you don't know what's going on at home or, you know, a smiling face at school might be the first thing, you know, that they see or look forward to or um you know, so thank you very much for your leadership. >> I would echo most of the statements here this evening. I great job, great work, great initiatives. It's always fun to see kind of what's coming, what's going to come next year over year. I've had a high schooler uh for several years now and you know as my three kids have worked their way through. So it's always fun to see what changes come um I love seeing the blood drive is there the uh like they mentioned the the track or treat that that was a neat idea and the uh the the spirit bus and going back to the elementary schools. I think the high schoolers might enjoy it almost more than some of the elementary school kids too. So um definitely a great thing but uh thank you very much for coming in. If I let me let me just add um the work we do across our district to build culture and to create a sense of belonging for kids. >> Nothing's more powerful than when than when kids lead that. So thank you for your effort there. It is so important and I can't imagine that you pull off what you do without your two adviserss, Miss Belert and Miss Brett. >> How about a shout out for them? And what would what would you say is what what do you what kind of guidance do you get from your adviserss? give them a quick shout out. >> Okay. Um, I would have to say they're definitely my lifeline throughout the year. Um, I reach out to them a lot for any support that I need. Um, Miss Miss Beldor's been my teacher for five years, ever since I was up in middle school. So, she's kind of been stuck with me throughout the years. I've been stuck at her side. Um, they really help us like lead the group. I know I tend to overthink a lot and get stressed out and sometimes I go to Bali and she calms me down or sometimes I need Brett to snap me out of it. So I would say that they just give me a whole bunch of support throughout the year that I need. >> I've been on council for four years and how I am now and how I was in freshman year was so different. Like I wouldn't see myself standing up here. I would be nervous a nervous wreck. But like it's because of Miss [cough] Bzart that I've gained the confidence and gained the leadership because it's incredible on what they do. They've seen me like be a super shy, quiet person who sits sit in the corner [cough and clears throat] presenting in front of the whole council. Like it's amazing. They've always been there. I'm always texting them like, "Oh, what's your Starbucks order?" Or like I'm texting them at like 8:00 p.m. and they're probably busy, but they [clears throat] always respond to me. And I'm always so grateful that they're by my side. I believe the mark of a great leader is really creating other leaders. And Brett and Bellart do it so well. I mean, not only have they created us as leaders, but even the whole council as like leaders in the school, they know that if they ever need anything done, they can turn to a student council kid and they're going to show up and they're going to do what needs to be done. >> Brett is such both of them like just support us so well. We come up with a lot of ideas. They go along with our crazy ideas and We just couldn't be more grateful to have them around. They bring so much positivity and light and joy into our community. And yeah, >> they see the best in like all of us. They like even if we may think we're like not doing as well, they will encourage us and be like, "You're doing great." >> And even during hard times, you can go to them for guidance and they know like just for like what to say. It's just so amazing. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> Great question. That's awesome. expecting that. But it's >> a >> Yeah, that was >> They need that too. >> Yeah, you do. You do. >> It's a great group of kids to work and they work very hard and we have very high expectations and so sometimes that that those expectations can be like homecoming week. The what was it? The second week of school. Second full week of school. Yeah. Mike Kenna knows that can only that's the earliest it can ever be before we would probably quit. And so cuz it's just hard. It's just hard to get it all done and they just rise to the challenge. And the one good like the one thing that they don't even realize when they get themselves into is they end up they end up in Jim Calwell's office a lot. They end up in my tenants's office a lot and it's like you get to help us figure this problem out or you get to talk about this or we get to we're going to ask you this and they step up and lead and it's just it's amazing. They do. All of them have heavy loads as seniors and as junior of like they've got jobs but they also are involved in other activities plus they're taking heavy classes and there's days where we're like nobody signed up to do this. We need you guys for like all of fifth and sixth hour and they just amongst themselves figure it out and it's covered and they're drop to help figure it out and it's it's awesome. >> It's great. >> Wow. Are you all going into teaching or healthcare? Because that's pretty much how those things operate, [laughter] too. >> Um, I am. I hope to attend the University of Minnesota for their nursing program. I really want to be a pediatric nurse when I get older. So, >> I'm going. >> I'm going to Anon State University for secondary education. Hoping to do math. >> Nice. And maybe come back. >> Yay. Love that. I plan to attend W Oaklair for a double major in environmental science and psychology. >> Nice. >> I want to be an EMT straight out of the high school using like the EMT class with Grayson >> and I just want to do it because I want to be there for somebody's like worst times because I feel like that's most valuable sometimes sometimes. >> But being there when somebody needs you, I feel like that's just a very powerful thing. >> Wow. Love it. Thank you. [applause] >> All right, that brings us to >> Lino Lakes Elementary Principal Schultz. >> Congratulations on the new role. >> And that was a tough act to follow. >> Yeah, I know. That's what we were just talking about. We were like, "How do you follow that?" So, [laughter] yeah, it's good. >> There's another one. Good evening, school board members, dey [clears throat] um chair Raaline. Um we are so excited to tell you uh some exciting things that Lino is doing uh specifically related to STEM tonight. So I brought Becky Hill with me. Um you have met her before. Uh I'll let you explain kind of your role and I won't do it for you. >> Yes. So, um, last year when we were, uh, Kelly Fericks and I are, um, science instructional coaches and then we also support Lino Lakes as STEM specialists. And so, we started that role last year. And so, um, yeah, some of the things that we do, first off, um, there's been varying amounts of STEMIS, I guess I could say, at Lino. And so, one of the things that we did last year was we did a couple site visits in Maple Grove, and we checked out other schools. We went to a school um let's see, we went to several schools and we were just looking at different things that the schools were doing um that made them a STEM school. And so we kind of focused in on some of those ideas that we'll tell you about in just a little bit. Uh before we kind of jump in, uh one of the things that we started doing at LO this year, we get a lot of tours throughout the school year. Um new kids coming to our school. And so one of the things when I'm on the tour with the families, the student always comes in and they're a little bit they're a little hesitant, right? Because it's a new building. Lo's pretty big. Uh so I'm leading them through the school and the parents are all on board. Uh the student is still a little like uh I don't know about this. Well, at the very end of the tour, something new that we started doing um is we started handing out 3D printer items. So, Lino Lakes Elementary is unique in that we have uh three or four 3D printers and the students walk by them and they see them making all of these little printed items and they're like, "That is so cool and it gets them kind of excited." So, I have um our nurse Joe actually he organizes it, but he creates a little 3D item. So, I'm going to pass one out. You can keep it. It's a lino lightning sweat. Um, but after students come uh to the office at the very end of the tour, >> they I hand them a 3D printed item and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." And I'm like, "So, do you feel better about coming?" And they're like, "Yeah, like I'm excited to come." I don't know if they think they're getting a 3D printer item every day, but we're just excited. It kind of creates that first uh kind [clears throat] of welcoming into our school. It sets just a tone of being a STEM building that I love. Um, so yes. All right. So, the first thing we're going to talk about is project based learning. Um, I'm going to have Becky talk a little bit about what this is, but overall our goal is to have every grade in our building uh do one project based learning unit throughout the school year. >> This year. >> This year. Yes. >> This year. Okay. So when we started doing our STEM tours, we we tried to focus in on elements that different buildings do and different places do that made them a STEM school. And um project-based learning was something that we noticed at several of the schools that we went to. And so we talked with um we started with the staff and we created goals and they decided that one of their goals was project-based learning. They wanted to do project-based learning units. And so, um, our goal was last year to create one project-based learning piece that they would implement this year. And then in the future, the goal is to do three project-based learning, um, units in every grade um, throughout the year. So, what project-based learning is, it's it's bringing together different pieces of curriculum and having them all match together on one common theme. So this year, our second grade was the ones that started and were the most excited about it and they decided to incorporate a science unit that fit really really well with the ELA unit that we were doing. And we talked about um so the science unit was based on habitats and how well uh organisms could survive in a habitat. And so what they had to do um was first they were thinking about that and we decided to make a project which was going to be creating a zoo enclosure for a specific animal. So in their ELA unit they were learning about different types of habit habitats. Um they did scale drawings in math. So they had to figure out like how big they would make their zoo enclosure. Um they did writing about specific animals. They use technology in the art class to not only make um powerpoints about their animals, but they also created their super cute zoo enclosures. Um and so it was really really exciting. And the the teachers um we had a launch event which is part of all project-based learning pieces and then we also had a um a public product at the end that we'll show you in just a little bit. Uh, one of the benefits in doing a project-based learning model is students are able to make connections crosscurricular. So, what they're reading about and learning about in their English language arts course or during that time of the day, they're able to then go make a connection during their science part of the day later in the afternoon. And so, it's just a way to enhance some of the academic vocabulary that they see in ELA. Um, and it just gets kids making connections in a way that uh they wouldn't always do. So, so one of the pieces that we did um towards the end is we also got to go to the Minnesota Zoo and um we had some some specific look fors for them at the zoo because they looked at um penguins, they looked at bison and um sea turtles and I can't remember what the other one was. Penguins. I said that one. So when they were at the zoo, they specifically had to look for those specific habitats and then look at what the elements were. Again, thinking about the idea of what in a habitat like what things are needed for an organism to survive in that specific habitat. So they were asking the question like could a penguin live in Minnesota? Things like that. And then they also took a class um which is what you're seeing in the upper corner and they learned a little bit more about different wetlands and what types of things were in different wetlands. And then they created a habitat um with some different modeling pieces like trees and logs and animals and things like that. So and again this experience was after they had done a lot of their learning. So they were getting the um academic pieces at school and then kind of near the end they had gone to the zoo and got to hear from people that work at the zoo about how they actually enhance animal habitat. So, they were able to to really get like a firsthand look at what that what their jobs look like and maybe potentially what it would look like for them to go into a career like that. >> Um, additionally, one of the pieces when you do project-based learning is to have a family engagement or a public product. >> So, this second grade team, and kudos to them because they really took this project-based learning, they're our first grade level to do this. They did amazing like I think blew away parents, everybody. We were It was amazing. Um but the public the public product that they had created was these little structures on different habitats and then they also had what you see laying on the tables there. It's aformational text about each animal's habitat. Um so they did kind of like a little research project which it with it which is one of their grade level standards. Um the little boy in the lefth hand corner there is holding a yellow piece of paper. So we actually invited all second grade families into this event during the day as well. Um so students got to take around their adult um and show them one their project, but they would also went around and answered a series of questions on this yellow card um to really demonstrate to their adult what they're learning in second grade. Um so it was questions like could a penguin survive in a grassland? why or why not? And the student would kind of teach their parent uh a thing or two about animal habitats. So, it was um it was a really great event. And then they also topped it all off by um we all ate animal crackers at the very end to celebrate the animal habitats. So, um parents had really really great feedback about this pro the whole project-based learning um process. We had parents just come to us telling us, you know, my child is talking about this every night when they come home. They're talking about like some animal habitat that they're creating and art and media. Um, so it really did create a buzz between home and school. Um, so it was it it went really great. I think everybody would say. So, okay. So STEM identities is another piece that we um we noticed at several of the schools that we went to. They call it different things, but um prior to my taking part of this position. Um uh Bruce Levventhal and Justine Herren had kind of worked together to create these STEM identities and they're based on the science and engineering practices which there's eight of them. We actually have nine um STEM identities and we use the STEM identity per month. And so last year what we started doing is we started creating STEM activities for them to do that were related to the identity. And then what we did is we had teachers just kind of loosely tally how many times their student did that. So for example if they were asking questions um we would say we would say well if you're asking a question or you're being a questioner we're we're going to keep track. And we it was kind of loose. We didn't want to put too much pressure on teachers last year because it was a lot. doing the STEM activities was like an extra lift for them. >> And then this year we decided to elevate it. Um our our STEM team kind of helped and they said, "No, we want to do badges." And so we started with the idea first that we were going to create the badges. And then Kelly had the amazing idea, well, how about if we have the students create the badges? And so we started and created a list starting with fifth grade and they created our first badges. So the kids um drew it out and then they voted on the the badge that they wanted in art class and now they're super super engaged and the tally marks now are going towards earning a badge. So every month if you the teachers in each of the grade levels decided well you have to have this many times when you were a questioner or this many times when you were an analyzer and if you do that you get your badge for the month and so now we start seeing our badges which leads to the trophy. >> Um Yeah, and just to reiterate, so these STEM identities um but when one of the very first things I did upon receiving this role as I met with all the staff members in my building um and something that I heard from a lot of the teachers was um we just feel like we're STEM light, right? Like we are just doing STEM a little bit. We want to really be immersed in STEM and do it well. Um, so we took that and um tried to celebrate um and use STEM throughout our building so people could our whole our whole staff and our all of our students were able to see like no we are all about STEM every single day. Um, and so these nine STEM identities and the way that we hand out badges um when kids are demonstrating these different scientific processes, it's just a way for us to encourage thinking um like a scientist. So it that's kind of the background in that. Um, so when these teachers are collecting tallies on these different identities, um, I always send out an email asking all classroom teachers, send me your total number of tallies for the month. So last month it was about being a questioner. So all of our teachers were keeping track and calling out students on, oh, you're being a questioner. Um, oh, we're being a questioner again by asking who, what, where, when, why questions. Um, and so they would tally and then at the end of the month, um, we had one teacher who had 175 tallies of being a questioner, which is amazing. Like that was that is a lot of asking questions, [laughter] but we know students love to do that. So, um, whoever whichever classroom gets the most number of tallies at the end of the month, we try to make it a huge deal in our building. Um, and so we created kind of makeshift. We found an old trophy in Lisa Sour's closet. Uh but we made it our STEM trophy. And so we decorated it and um so for the winning class, what happens is uh Ann Redipenning plays a uh a a song that the kids love. Normally it's like a K-pop song or whatever they're listening to. I normally have to ask a fifth grader. Um so we play it through their classroom intercom and the students don't know we're coming. Um, so you're going to see a video of students experiencing this in [clears throat] a minute. Um, but it is it it's a very high energy moment in our building and other classrooms start to hear and see me you running down the hallway to deliver the trophy and it creates a buzz in the building. Um, so I'm just going to show you a video of kind of what this experience looks like. Hi Rhino Lightning. We are here with Miss Hill and Mr. Hampton. We are going to deliver our first stamp tally trophy. There's winning today and we are going to Mrs. Monster's room right now. They don't know where >> [screaming] >> That's so cute. So, lots of energy. Uh, we were this is something new. So, we were just like, let's just try it. Let's make it a big deal and clearly it was it was wellreceived. Uh, we just did another one a couple days ago and the kids responded in the exact same way. Um, so yeah, very fun. Um let's I think we've got one more thing here. So work in progress that uh we're still doing at Lino kind of throughout the school year. We've got kind of three things on our radar right now. Um and this work is done. We have a STEM team at Lino that meets one to two times per month. Um they are tasked with they have amazing ideas. Everybody's that's on the team. In fact, like we're oftentimes like trying to rein them in with ideas a little bit. Um, but they are in charge of seeing these ideas through. Uh, so our third and fourth grade Spanish immersion, they are doing actually a PBL unit. They're planning it now. Um, about how to redesign our LOS commons area. So, right when you walk into Lino, there's this huge space. um knowing we want to be a STEM forward school. The first thing we want parents, people entering our building to see is like, whoa, they definitely are a STEM school. Um and so we are getting our third and fourth graders to look at ideas for what would that look like? What would be something that uh people might see as they walk through our building or enter our building. Um we're also we also planned a STEM night um that's in partnership to the Science Museum of Minnesota. This is happening in the spring. Um, so the science museum is bringing in 12 different stations, all STEM themed. Uh, some are physics, some are math, science, technology. Um, and then parents and students, this is open to all, will come and kind of do different activities with their child related to STEM. Um, also this night they're getting some uh reading and math activities as well. Uh and then the last event that we're in the midst of planning, it's we're calling it a cardboard challenge uh winter Olympics edition. And so in around the month of uh January, February, we are having all uh grade levels be assigned a country for the Winter Olympics since they're happening this year. Um, and then we're going to work with uh our art and media specialist on having the students create their own winter Olympics event, but it it's only in cardboard. >> Um, again to be a STEM building. So, we bought uh STEM tools that are special for cutting. Um, they are going to work towards making some of those events this winter. So, >> um, yeah. Anything you want to add? Uh, I don't know. They're just really excited. The kids are just having a great time doing some of the stuff. So, yeah. And then some other things that we have um in motion. Um, our media and innovation teacher is amazing and she is super excited to try to do some stuff. One thing she's really excited about is computer science and bringing more computer science to students through the innovation piece of her job. And so we just wrote a Tesla grant grant for for her to do stopotion animo animation in her class. And we'll be looking at computer science and computational thinking strategies as kids create um their own movies for third, fourth, and fifth graders. They're going to use um special cameras and Legos and have a great time. Um hopefully we'll get the grant. And then um after that, well, you're going to talk about the mess. >> Um we also applied for it was a MESPA STEM grant. So, through the Min uh Minnesota Elementary Principles Association, uh we applied for this grant, too. Then we're hoping to get it. The winner will get $600 in either programming or compensated field trips, which would just add to some of the experiences we can provide to >> to pro provide to our students. >> So, with that, uh we will take any questions or comments. >> All right. >> Anybody have any questions or comments? Well, I I love hearing it. Um I my fourth grader at Lino is he seems much more engaged in in general. I I mean so I don't know. I know he drew one of the badges, you know, for design and uh so but he's come home and he'll talk about school so he's much more [clears throat] it's just I can tell something's different and I thought maybe it was just him and his you know growing a little bit but I do love hearing about what you're doing because um I I think it was STEM light there for a little while. just, you know, um, things happened for during COVID and after and I think it took a little while to get back going and so I'm glad you guys are making this very strong effort to bring it back and and I [snorts] I love seeing their excitement. That's amazing. Mhm. >> So, >> member Christian, >> I just wanted to say um you know, you've really jumped in, principal, [laughter] into your new position and um just hearing your enthusiasm and your love for the kids and your love and your passion. I mean, it just shines through. It's super obvious. So, we're really grateful >> to have you. And I love the idea. I love that you put on a a coat and science coat, ran down the hall. I mean, you know, that's kids love that kind of stuff. So >> yeah, >> and I think our staff does too, actually. It kind of brings them some joy, too. So >> yeah. Well, great job, >> Tyson. Well, absolutely. The enthusiasm is off the charts, and we're so proud of our STEM Elementary out in Lino Lakes, and I'm just excited for the fact that it is going to be steeped in STEM now. I mean, it's important, and I think it's a great way for kids to learn. And when I'm out in the community, I hear people ask, "Well, what do they do with the STEM school?" You know, you guys are doing it, and that's what we need to see. And I'm just so proud of where you're bringing it and where you're going. Um, and I love the project-based learning, how there's always that family component, and that's so important. And I think when the whole family can feel involved and come into our buildings and share and meet other families, meet other second grade parents, it's just a great all way around way to learn. So kudos to all of you and thank you so much. And your outfit was cute. >> Wig [laughter] say it reminded me of Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory with the coat on and everything and the gloves. [laughter] But um yeah, so yeah, I want to thank you that yeah, the enthusiasm and I just wonder how staff is responding to the changes. I mean, I'm sure since they wanted to be more engaged in the STEM work, have you got a lot of feedback from the staff now? I mean, they >> to be honest, some of the teachers uh rightfully so because it's new, their initial thoughts were, wow, this is a little overwhelming. Okay. Um the planning process I think can be once you start doing the actual unit they they reported that they saw it come come together and it really wasn't overwhelming once they started. >> Okay. >> Um one of the other things I heard during my interviews with staff was that they just wanted school to be fun again. So again it was just another way to kind of uh honor their wishes for Lino as well. >> That's wonderful. And since my my son is actually in science right now, so I'm >> You should come on over. >> Well, he's in Arizona, unfortunately. But I mean, I'm just what I'm gonna be interested [clears throat] in knowing like with all this in integrated more science in in the school, how many will turn to science as their future career. I mean, that would be really cool to track down the road how many little scientists we're making, you know, and making because of all this enthusiasm and change in the curriculum and just all these opportunities for them. So that's going to be I mean I'd be just curious down the road looking at data in the future. >> Yeah. >> But thank you for Yeah. Looks like you're really embracing I mean the schools just it seems like things are really fun. I mean you add a lot of fun to the school and enthusiasm. So we do appreciate that. Thank you. >> To that me to that point member Corkran it's great for critical thinking skills as well. Definitely getting thinking about it. Member Castle. So the way that you bring the different pieces together so that it's a project, I think that really sticks in a person's head for what they're learning as opposed to, oh, you do 50 math problems. >> You know, what a nightmare. But you can do the math, you can do the English, you can do the writing, you can do all these different things that are involved in [snorts] education, and it it sticks, especially with the fun part. If it's not fun, what are they gonna remember? But the fun brings another piece in there that brings that long-term memory >> for them to have it for the rest of their lives and keep adding to it. >> Yeah, >> that's awesome. >> Nothing like experience to create a a learning moment. >> Can I just ask with the you you say you go over I'm sorry I don't remember. >> No, it's Becky. >> Becky. Mhm. >> So, you have gone over to Lino to kind of help them with this? >> Yeah. So, Kelly Ferris and I um last year we spent a half a day together. Okay. Um at Lino. So, usually every Wednesday we were there and that was um coordinated with their STEM team, their team meetings and then the staff meetings. And then we did a lot of support um like we created all the [clears throat] activities for the STEM and then we help pack kits because it's a lot of materials. >> And so then we would distribute all of that stuff. So, because the extra lift of doing that stuff, I'm sure you can imagine is just like a lot teachers don't really have the time to do that. So, that was one thing. And then we both attended a project-based learning um training this summer and then project-based learning coaching training. So, then we're helping to support them create those units, okay? >> So that they um you know know how to do them. And so like now that we finished our first unit with second grade, one of the things that we're doing is wrapping back around and reflecting >> how was student engagement? What kind type of data do we have to see that I mean obviously we're not just doing it for PL for play. We want to see that achievement goes up. So we're like what things can we measure to say that it's actually boosting student achievement and engagement. So we're doing a bunch of those things. So that's kind of we we kind of work behind the scenes. Okay. Um, but then also as science coaches, we're available to them as they're implementing their new science. >> Okay. And is that do do you teach somewhere else in our district, too, or is this what you're >> This is your Yeah. So, Kelly Fks and I are both science instructional coaches. So, we work across the district, K through 12. Um, so one of our biggest jobs is when the science um standards change, we've been creating elementary science curriculum, okay? >> And then helping teachers um implement that. So, that's what kind of primarily and then we work with the middle school and high school who have units that they're creating to support them in their practice of teaching science. >> Okay. >> Awesome. All right. Emma, one more question. Sorry. >> Is there going to be because I know that Lino and I think a couple of our elementary schools even have, you know, like outdoor garden spaces. Will that be maybe one of your things or is that already something else in the curriculum in the school? >> Um, yeah. So, what I, as you heard me say, our third and fourth grade Spanish immersion has this project based learning unit around redesigning the commons. We would like another project-based learning eventually to be redesigning our outdoor classroom space. >> Um, it just gives students a voice in what their our school looks like too, which is valuable. So, down the road. Yeah. And then I think across the district too, we're trying to utilize some of those spaces um in the science curriculum that we're creating to how can we how can we match up the spaces that we have that go with the science curriculum based on their benchmarks. So we're trying to utilize those spaces whenever we can. >> Great. Love it. >> I think that's great. Castle. >> So, [clears throat] as you develop these plans and projects, um, have you come up with perhaps a cheat sheet or something for spreading this out over the district so they don't have to start from scratch and have all this initial >> Yeah, that's that's actually so one of my roles is as a um each instructional coach has a special project and one of my special projects is project based learning. And so as we're implementing the units that we're doing, I I would say LO's a bit of a test pilot place for us to find out which units are um scalable districtwide. And we feel like potentially the unit that second grade just did is one of those elements that could be scalable. I don't know that we will push all teachers to do that, but we were we're talking about like what it looks like to have them have an optional like the regular science unit or a PBL unit where they could, you know, like you as a group can decide, yes, we're going to implement this PBL unit at our school. And then the goal would potentially be districtwide to have every grade do at least one um as opposed to like LO's doing three. That makes sense. That's a great idea. >> Yeah, I I like that. The thing that stuck with me the most is when you you spoke a lot about how these kids were working on the habitat. Of course, you were you were talking about penguins, and I love penguins, so I'd love to know if I could have a penguin, but um that's beside the fact. Um you mentioned just how strong the the home to school relationship got and how excited the the kids were to go home and share this with their families. And then >> that that encourages learning even more because it's it's fun and you're not getting the questions of, you know, like member Castle mentioned with with math. Well, when are we ever going to use this? Well, you're using it right now and you're applying it right now and you can see how it's going to scale as you as you grow and as you learn more and you get deeper into different projects. So, I think that's super exciting. >> Yeah. Anything that we can do to to tighten that homechool connection is a win in my book. Thank you both. >> Yeah, thank you both for coming out. [applause] >> All right, that brings us to positive happenings. Does anybody have anything um additional to add that we haven't already seen tonight? >> Go ahead. >> Remember Christian? >> Oh, let go first. >> Yeah. Well, I was just going to mention the uh great football season the varsity football team had this year. um wrapping up the season at nine and two which was really wonderful. Um a tough loss but um the the their record is really improving as the years go on which is really wonderful. We're seeing a lot of progress there. And then um just one other thing um Scandia just had their wild walk um fundraiser. Uh they um with Halloween falling on a Friday, they had their wild walk celebration. And so parents could come in and help run different stations and the kids just could play and make it a fun um a fun day. So that concludes my report. Thank you. >> Member Corkran. >> Well, I just want to say I'm excited for the Anastasia musical play coming. I'm very thrilled. Um it starts uh the 14th, I believe the 14th or the 16th and the 21st to the 23rd. >> I'm going to go on opening night. So I'm like I got a bunch of ladies ready to go. It's one of my favorite Disney shows. So, I'm excited. Um, and also 97 is open. That's my great positive update. [laughter] Hallelujah. With that, um, it's beautiful. And there's a there's a w there's a sidewalk. I'm like, where did that come from? That's awesome. So, I can ride my ebike across now. >> And, um, yeah, I was going to mention Ranger football. It's it's heartbreaking, but what a amazing. Over the years, my, you know, my kids played in the earlier days when the wind was hard to be gotten. I mean the to go there at the White Bear Lake win in 20 was it 17 or 16 when they stormed the field because they had their first win in many years. So >> we far cry from now. So um but so amazingly uh proud of the of the team and all the hard work. So um yeah, that concludes my report. >> Yeah, I would I would agree with that. I mean it's not not very many seasons end on the very last play. kids left it out on the field and they did everything they could to uh play to win so to speak. So very proud of them. Member Tyson. >> Yeah, we we're so proud of our Ranger football program and the team did amazing this year. I mean I don't know how you feel, Member Corkran, but >> I almost thought I'd never see this day. I mean, when my daughter and her group of football players, half of the uh stadium was brown because the sprinkler heads were all broke and the other half was sort of green. So, it's like now we have this awesome team building up and the beautiful stadium and I just think we're so blessed in Forest Lake to have that. I'm just so proud. But also I want to mention member Corkran, Forest Lake Elementary's Turkey Bingo is next week on the 13th at 5:30. It's a very fun family event. Um we try to go every year and it's just fun. It's grandparents, it's parents, it's just everybody hanging out, playing bingo, having fun. Um and I want to mention because I did not get to go to my favorite event. It's the Unscary Halloween party that ECF puts on. And I heard from [clears throat] Bethany, the director, that they had 350 people come this year. It was their biggest event ever. And they had nine ECF staff and 10 high school volunteers. So, she said we had such good help that we introduced more games. And I don't know if you saw any of the pictures on Facebook, but they were so cute. I mean, it's just so fun to see an event that's just for infants to prek and up. And it uh it's just a wonderful family time. And also Hannah Davis did a great article in the Forsick Times about it as well. And that concludes my report. >> All right. Do we have anything else for positive happenings this evening? >> All right. Seeing none, that'll bring us to reports, workshops, and conferences. Do we have anything for workshops and conferences this evening? All right. We'll move on to City of Forest Lake. That's member Christensen and member Tyson. >> Um yeah. Um just a couple small uh small items. Um at the October 13th um meeting um they hire there another police officer has been hired. So that's um exciting. Um and then they talked a lot about the Chestnut Creek um development which is kind of over there by Forest Hills Golf Course. Um a lot of um uh citizen participation regarding a park in that area. But um phase two of Chestnut Creek will have 116 lots. So that's um really exciting. Um yes, Highway 97 is open. That's exciting. Um and then on October 27th, also in the meeting, they talked about another uh preliminary plat and discussion of another development called Amberly Woods, which is to the northeast of Chestnut Creek, and they will have 56 single family homes. So, uh, other stuff was discussed, but that was, you know, related to, uh, school and increasing enrollment. So, that's really exciting to see all the new development in Forest Lake. >> That concludes my member >> Tyson. Yeah, I just want to add a couple of things. Thank you. Um, I watched back their budget review, which was impressive, and I wanted to hear about the community survey results, and the top three things were police, parks, and trails, and roads. So, those are kind of the top things that bubbled up for the residents of Forest Lake. They also uh had the date out for their hometown holiday. It's on December 5th with the tree lighting and it's just a great family event. I also want to note that they have commission appointments available if anybody's interested. Um opportunities for the airport commission, EDA, and parks and trails. And that concludes my portion of the report. >> All right. Thank you. Any questions? All right, we'll move to community education. That's member Christensen as well. >> Um, yes, I attended the meeting on um October 20th. Um, [clears throat] lots of things uh to discuss, but uh the main topic was um a school age care update. Um [clears throat] so that was exciting. Um let's see. Um sorry, I think that was kind of the main thing. The fishing team is under community ed like we said, so that's really exciting. Ranger Space Camp is again going in May. This year they have nine participants which is a little bit lower than last year. So they are partnering with another metro school but we are taking our own um chaperones. But um just a lot of updated information on um SAC and um the numbers that we have there and there's going to be a call for the mini grants. The community advisory council um does mini grants. So if you are a part of community education, you can apply for those grants. So they'll be uh that information has just come [clears throat] out too. So that concludes my report. >> All right. Thank you, Member Christensen. There are no questions. We can move to Member Tyson with MSBA. >> Yes. The MSBA board of directors met on Sunday afternoon and we passed the current slate of 37 resolutions. So looking forward, we're going to have 127 delegates convene for the delegate assembly and those are board members throughout the whole state and joining from for St. Gary schools will be member Antinson and member Corkran and that's going to be held December 5th and 6th. So there's a funful agenda Friday evening um with dinner a speaker and then at 8 a.m. sharp we start voting on the resolutions. So, uh, one more thing I wanted to note that there's going to be a virtual resolution briefing that you can take and listen to. It's Denise Dietri Dietrich will be leading that and she makes you feel very confident and comfortable in understanding the resolutions and all of that. So, I'm excited as director of district 6. The roster is full. Um, I have area 14 and 15, which is kind of fun because we have school districts from Ramsey County as well as the other slate of school districts is Washington County. So, I'm looking forward to seeing us all convene down there. It's a great time for networking and learning about how we can get these resolutions to to our legislature legislators. So, the other thing is this has come out. June Joy sent it to everyone. The 2026 leadership conference is on the horizon already. Um, one new thing I just want to mention so that nobody misses it is that on Wednesday, um, there's no more awards lunchon. It's been moved to Wednesday evening as a social event so that people will have [clears throat] plenty of time to accept their awards, take photos, and and um enjoy networking with other board members from other districts. So, that's new on that. Um, and then the other new thing I want to mention, which is going to be really good addition to the leadership conferences, there's going to be more graband go places to get food because we got feedback that we need more of those. So, I'm looking forward to the director district director discussions that are Thursday at from 11:15 to noon. Um, and it's always fun to hear from Ramsey County and Washington County districts. So I think that concludes my report. Just let Joy know um and she can get you registered for the leadership conference and then I will see my members. Thank you for being part of the delegates >> and member Tyson. Uh JP Jacobson and Mr. Caldwell and I will be presenting in the five o'clock break four o'clock breakout session on our career cluster program. So we were accepted for our proposal. >> We were you just found that out? Yeah, just today >> because I was sweating that out because I kind of misspoke at a meeting and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I saw Katie Clander at the retreat and asked her and she's like, "We haven't really decided yet, Gail." And I'm like, "Oh." But I knew we would because we are just cutting edge here in Foresight. So, they want us. >> Yeah. You You made it happen. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. When are you presenting? >> Five o'clock on Thursday. 4:00 on it's not in the >> round table, right? Correct. >> No, that'll be a breakout session. >> It's a breakout session. You'll be in a room >> Thursday 4 p.m. >> Yes. So, like I said, any board member that's attending and wants to help introduce our group and um take attendance, let me know. >> Okay. But there's really great speakers again and it's always exciting to be together um networking with other schoolboard members from other districts and hearing what's been going on around the state. The other thing I wanted to note is that yesterday I had a really positive outcome out of 96 questions on the ballots. Um where are my notes? Half was for um refer [snorts] 96 questions with 64% of the capital projects getting passed and [snorts] 70% of operating levies levies getting passed. And so it just shows that there's pride at the local level and [snorts] people wanting their public schools to stay strong in their communities and they're supporting them. And I was really happy to see that the outstate school districts did just as well, too. So it was a pretty good day at the polls at the for public schools. >> So that concludes my report. >> All right. Thank you, Member Tyson. Um that'll bring us to the superintendent's report. Dr. Massie, >> very good. um as we pull up a few slides here to put a little bit of more information in front of you. The first thing I want to um put in front of the the board is um the new elementary boundaries that go into effect next school year. On the right hand side is a screen capture from our district website where families can actually go to the the app that we have on this website to see where their new school is going to be next year. For many families, there is no change, but for about 500 families when they go to this this feature, they will see that their elementary school next year will be different. Um, just a a a quick point. You'll see on the middle of this document, and you'll recall this, that we we kept the the alleyway, the pathway, if you will, from Forest Lake South to Hugo open for all the development that will be coming. And member Christensen identified two of those >> that are now coming online in Forest Lake. There are two other ones that are in the pipeline in Forest Lake. there is a significant development in Lino lakes that is now in the review process. So we knew that then and we planned accordingly and it's happening probably as fast as we would have imagined. Of course it all of that development could have come to a halt but the good news is things are moving and that's good for district enrollment. We are well underway communicating with families whose boundaries will change next year. Uh we need to know this by January uh so that it this information can feed into our staffing work. All families are getting communication especially families whose school is changing next year. We need to know out with those families which families are actually moving to their new school because they'll have an option. Of course, they can stay where they're at or they can move to their new newly assigned school. >> If they decide to stay, then the bus in their neighborhood will no longer go to that school. It'll go to the new school. So, they need to understand how all that works. But we need a commitment or an indication which families plan to move to their new schools, which families plan to stay so that we can staff and budget and build um enrollment or staffing enrollment accordingly. So, we're well underway with those communications and help and making sure that families understand [cough] how all that works in terms of transportation. Additionally, immersion all moves to Forest View next year, which is a big shift for the immersion families at Lina Lakes. So, like communication for the all elementary schools, direct and specific communication to families at Lo Lakes about the movement of immersion to Forest View. We need to know from those families which families are truly going to move to Forest View for immersion, which families may decide to stay at Wino Lakes um because that's their the school they're familiar with. You can see all the exciting things in Miss Hill and Miss Schultz's presentation in terms of all the STEM work. There are families that are already indicating their intent to stay at Lino Lakes, but we need to get a handle on those 85 or so families on which families are moving to Forest View. That'll have a a significant impact on the number of sections at Forest View with enrollment. We have a open house at Forest View Monday night at 6 PM for all immersion families. So giving the Lionyl Lakes families a chance to meet the immersion staff that will be at Forest View to see the classrooms and interact with the staff. So that's scheduled for Monday at 6 p.m. Any questions on the boundary work before I shift tactics? >> I have a question. Dr. Massie, I I So did did families not have um I feel like with um back it up. Uh I feel like uh some of the kids that are going into kindergarten and preschool, I feel like there was some talk already that some of them moved schools, so they must have had some sort of idea or or not. >> Yeah. So a family that was coming into the district with a kindergarten >> Okay. >> Um [clears throat] were they were paying attention to where their what their elementary school is going to be the following year. >> Yes. >> And there were families that chose to open enroll to that school. >> Okay. >> So that they would not have a transition after kindergarten. >> So there has communicate. That is correct. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah. >> Member Tyson. >> So, I think it's really good how you talked about on previous slide how, you know, we're communicating early, right? Because if they need to be aware that busing isn't available >> and to understand that. So, I'm just really happy to hear that we're communicating early and we're communicating often. I think it's just really important. Don't they say you have to hear something three to five times for it to really I mean, I know I do and that's so important. The busing is just so important to families. >> Um, one question about this slide. How many families roughly are there in the immersion at Lino? >> About 80. Ann, help me out here. 85ish. I'm putting you on the spot. >> 85 students. Okay. That's quite a few. >> Yep. >> Quite a few. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We're anticipating about 50% move into Forest View, give or take. And that open house is just for the lino. >> Nope. All immersion families. >> Yep. >> And how many will that be roughly? >> Uh there's another close to 90ome at Forest View. >> Say that again. >> 21. >> Okay. >> Yep. So just over 100. >> 100. >> Yep. So that could be invited if you want to come. >> Yeah. [laughter] Right. >> Yes. Experiential. Right. >> There are chairs over here. Big crowd. >> So So you don't know about staffing yet then because you'll have to depend on how many kids are coming whether it's one section or two or three depending upon the the enrollment. >> It's also going to impact them to go to regular classrooms too. I know >> and we need to know that. Oh yeah. As we get into our planning stage. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yep. I don't know if you saw the forecast, but snow's on the radar. So, let's talk about winter weather >> information. Um, you know, of course, decisions to >> close school. That's why all the teachers are here tonight, by the way. I was wondering >> um we we're obviously student safety, staff safety has to be first and foremost when we consider school cancellations. The National Weather Service issues a cold weather warning at -35 degree windchill and so we pay attention to that and that's about our threshold for cancelling school based on cold weather or 25 degree below air temperature would be the cancellation due to cold weather. Snow is a moving target. It depends on the type of snow. It depends on the amount of snow at Scandia versus Liner Lakes and in our big district that can vary. >> You know, we have a lot of gravel roads in our district and in the fall and spring, those gravel roads can be before they freeze a bit soggy on a heavy wet snow and a bus that gets close to an edge on wet, sloppy, heavy snow [snorts] uh can be a bit dangerous and getting buses stuck. So a lot of factors that we consider, but that is always a moving target and there's never a clear-cut answer. You just make the best decision you can, but we're in consultation with National Weather Service and all the various districts that surround Forest Lake and we tend to make decisions um obviously best for each of our districts, but oftentimes we make those decisions together. You don't want to be the last district open. You also want to be the first for closing. So there are just a lot of things. >> It's a no-win situation. >> Sometimes it's a no- win. That's right. >> They don't have our roads. No, we've got a country complex. It >> I I would also point out that >> we have a lot of them. >> And we have a lot of them. >> Yes, we do. >> And we have gravel and we're backing in and out around lakes and >> Yep. >> That's right. Yeah, that's right. >> I would also point out that we are there there are a number of districts, but we're one of the districts that can due to our busing situation and system run a late start. >> So, if it looks like it's going to be um a heavy snow overnight and the plows will get out by 5 or 6 and we need a couple of extra hours, we can do that. All of our elementaryaries, middle school, and high school have schedules for a 2-hour late start. The one thing we do try to avoid is closing early. >> There's enough data that we get that gives us an indication of what snow might look like during the day. >> The hard call to make is closing when there's almost no snow and then having six or eight inches of snow during the day. We close when there isn't snow knowing that there's going to be snow later so that we're not closing early when families aren't home to receive kids off of a bus. But those are the calls you get of families wondering why we're closing when there's no snow outside. So just a little bit of background on some of the decision making related to winter weather cancellations. I'll use this as an opportunity to also uh remind you that we have two snow days on our calendar. Back when the e-learning days came forward from the state, there were five e-learning days that count as instructional days. Our board at the time decided that the first two cancellations would be true Minnesota winter snow days where there's no expectation for school work. And then the third day would be an e-learning day. We get five of those. If we exceed those five days, we're in a makeup situation of making up those instructional days. [snorts] Just a reminder on the schoolboard vacancy uh timeline, applications are currently being taken and they will be taken until 4 p.m. on November 20th. Uh they are available online. They're also available in Joy Mouch's office for folks who want to come in and pick up the application. And then on December 1st, um actually on November 20th, the board, as I understand it, will make a determination based on the number of board vacancy applications that are received, whether or not there needs to be a meeting, a special meeting on December 1st for committees to go through the number of different applicants if there are, you know, more than two or three. And then I would recommend and chair Rabel and I spoke earlier today that we may want to also call a special board meeting at 6 p.m. that night to identify which candidates would be slated for interview at the December 4th board meeting. >> The appointed person through that interview process then would take their seat at the January 6th board meeting. All this information is on the district website as well. As you can see from the presentations tonight, listening to our student council kids, there are amazing things happening every single day throughout our school district. just today, the healthcare career camp, a two-day camp at the high school, exposing kids to all the different healthcare career fields, and then we had the life link from North Memorial on our football field this afternoon and our kids having a chance to experience that. So, that was just this afternoon. >> And that concludes my report. >> Right. Thank you, Dr. Massie. Any questions or comments for Dr. Massie on the uh report? All right, seeing none, that brings us to the consent agenda. Is there any item that anybody would like to pull from the consent agenda this evening? >> All right, it doesn't appear so. So, I would entertain a motion to approve items 8.1 through 8.4. >> So, moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Those opposed. Motion carries. That brings us to action items. 9.1 donations. Member Christensen. Uh yes. Um once again we have a lengthy list here of very generous donations to our schools. So uh $7,73 from the Forest Lake Area Music boosters for the marching band, $6,894 from the high school volleyball booster club uh to pay for coaches, $4,8149 from the Ranger Rally Club for girls tennis uh coaches. $2,500 from the Forest Lake Rotary Club for outdoor recreation project basketball courts and uh disc golf course at the community ed center. Uh $750 from Jake Musen uh for the Forest Lake marching band. $729 from Ranger uh football for soccer, [laughter] not uh $500 from Maple Tree uh pediatric dentistry for outdoor again outdoor recreation project. Um, $500 from Eric Feifer Farmers Insurance again for the outdoor recreation project. $500 from the Force Lake Lions Club for SAD events throughout the school year. Um, and $500 from the Hullberg Family Foundation again for the outdoor recreation project uh at the Forest Lake uh community uh school. Uh for a total of 2,000 or pardon me for a total of $24,2753. I move to approve with gratitude. >> So move second. >> No. Okay. Okay, we have a motion in a second. Is there any discussion? >> We're just so grateful for all these donations every month. It's just we're just blessed. >> Yeah, that project sounds interesting. I'd really have to see what that's all about. A community school. >> Yeah, >> I know about that. So, >> all right. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Those opposed. >> All right. Motion carries bringing us to the Force Lake area school staff retirement notice. Member Christensen. >> Yes. There's two uh retirements this evening. Leanne Martinson, benefits coordinator here at the DOU, following 18 years of service and uh Jerry Sheldon, a short order cooker at Forest Lake uh the high school following 22 years of service. So a total of uh 40 years just between two folks there. So we hope they have a wonderful retirement. >> All right, entertain a motion. >> So move. >> Second. >> Motion a second. Is there any discussion? All right, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed. I motion carries. Brings us to item 9.3, transportation employees drug, alcohol, and cannabis testing policy. Dr. Massie. Um, all school district transportation employees whose positions require commercial driver's license will be required to undergo drug and alcohol testing and cannabis testing in accordance with federal law and the applicable provisions of this policy. You'll notice that the changes recommended in this policy um update statute references to [clears throat] the federal statute, moving away from state statute. We've always been following the federal statute with respect to um the drug and alcohol cannabis testing with respect to transportation. So the these changes update the policy to reflect those statutes. With that, administration recommends your approval. >> Move to approve 93. >> Second. >> All right. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Those opposed. The motion carries. Brings us to item 9.4. Request permission to bid long-term facilities maintenance work at Wyoming Elementary summer 2026. Uh, I have director Renberg. I do not see her. >> She's in the house. Here we go. >> There she is. >> There she is. Welcome. >> Right on queue. >> Exactly. >> Uh Wyoming, we're gonna request tonight permission to bid. We talked at the last meeting after the buildings and grounds committee meeting about the extensive work that will be done next summer at Wyoming Elementary. Again, a lot of HVAC work. Uh the exterior rooms of the building were done during that bond project from the 2015 bond. And now we're working on the interior, the cafeteria, um the gymnasiums, getting all that HVAC tied into the system. Also repainting, uh and some flooring in the school. We'll also be um sectioning off. Right now we have an accordion wall between the cafeteria and the gym. And so that'll go away. They're very costly and we don't really need that full space very often. And so we're just going to go ahead and make that a permanent wall. So that will be a nice thing also for circulation of air to be able to control better than a big space. So uh with that we would ask approval for permission to bid. We will have it twice in the newspaper and then also we'll open the bids uh in um early December. >> All right. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions? >> I have one member. Um, under the electrical scope, um, just one question, and I've brought this up before, and obviously it's not as huge as all the Hback and those really critical things that need to be done, but I was looking to see if there would be new lighting in the media center. >> Yes, there is. >> That's wonderful. Okay, thank you. >> Yes. Yeah, that has been a long need in the area. There's a little reading pit in their media center that uh is a pretty dark little nook uh in the media center area. But yeah, we will do upgrade all the lighting to the correct LED lighting. >> That's wonderful. Thank you. I'm glad to hear that because I've been out there and it's very dark in kind of that entire media center. So that's good news. >> Yep. >> All right. Any additional questions? >> And have we used this architect before? ISG? >> Yes. Yeah. So, they worked on the high school and the ED center. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. >> I can just say how great it is to be able to have those funds available to us. >> Correct. >> Long-term facilities maintenance dollars that we've fought for for many, many, many years. So, that we can continue to keep our buildings in good, >> you know, good shape and not have to fall behind on repairs again. So, but thank you. This is a great great opportunity. Yep. Thank you. Excellent point, Member >> Corp. >> Yep. >> All right. With that, I would entertain a motion to approve. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any additional discussion? >> Uh seeing none, member clerk, please roll call. [clears throat] >> Okay. Uh member Rebeline >> I. >> Member Castle. >> I. >> Member Corkran. >> I. >> Member Christensen. >> I. >> Member Tyson. >> I. >> And member Antonson votes I. The eyes have it. >> All right. Motion carries. Brings us to 9.5 adjustment of 2025 2026 schoolboard meeting calendar. Dr. Massie, >> when we set the schoolboard meeting calendar, uh we knew this was a potential conflict. The decision at that time was to wait and see what the dates that MSBA would choose and set their conference dates on. Well, as it turns out, January 15th is right at the the heart of their conference. So with the various board members who attend that conference and even with our presentation at 4 pm, it's going to be a conflict for a number of us, myself included. So we would recommend that we move the January 15th schoolboard meeting to January 22nd. >> Yep. >> All right. I'd entertain a motion. >> So moved. Second. >> We motion a second. Is there any discussion on this? Well, we've tried to make it back in a blizzard before when we have had meetings during the conference and so I'm happy to see that we don't have to worry about that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And now hearing that we're going to have a number of staff members presenting there, >> many of which are generally at the board meeting, I think it's important that we do move it. >> Yes. Good point. >> So, if there's no other discussion on that, uh, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> Those opposed. >> All right. Motion carries and that date has been changed. Brings us to item 9.6, resolution supporting application to the Minnesota State High School uh Foundation or League Foundation, sorry. >> Yep. This is an annual um resolution that we ask the board to approve. It essentially authorizes the district to make an application to the high school league for a form a grant which covers or provides funds to offset the district cost when we wave athletic participation fees. So, it's a great resource that um that just covers the cost of allowing kids to participate. We don't turn any kids away. any kid that wants to participate, we find a way. And this offsets the the loss of of fees for those kids. So, administration would recommend your approval. >> And it's I would add about a $3,000 contribution to the district. >> Wow. Okay. Very nice. >> Move to approve 96. Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on this one? >> Member Christensen. I would just like to say I think this is a really wonderful thing and I'm glad that um kids we don't turn any kids away and um um you know I've subbed in that office area before um pre previously and you know it's it's kept really confidential. It's not a big deal. You know they just know that you can ask a staff member in Mr. Hennon's office for help or a dean. I'm sure someone can just refer you. So I think it's really wonderful that we're not you know pricing out kids from sports. I mean, everything is just so expensive. So, I think um this is a really wonderful >> thing and I'm glad we're able to do it. >> Well said. Absolutely. >> All right. Thank you, Member Christensen. Any other discussion? >> All right. Member clerk, will you please take the roll call? >> All right. Member Antonson votes I. Member Rebeline. >> I. >> Member Tyson. >> I. >> Member Christensen. >> I. >> Member Castle. >> I. >> And member Corkrrim. >> I. The eyes have it. >> All right, motion carries. Brings us to item 10.1, superintendent search process. Um, I added this one to the agenda just at the request of member forrren. Uh, being that we had turnover at the vice president role here in the school board, I was kind of on my own island here trying to figure out what do we do for the superintendent search. That was one of the things I alluded to earlier in the meeting about uh the chair and the vice chair um get get added responsibilities that the the board gives us to to move on in the process and this was one of those. So I just wanted to uh provide an update and have a little discussion here with the board to see you know what do we do next. Uh one of the thoughts was uh engaging an executive search committee. Um I like that idea. Um I if we are going to do that I would like to get uh um a couple of different options. I know uh we've used MSBA in the past and that served us well, but I think it would benefit us greatly to at least see what other potential um options we have. So that's kind of my kickoff to the discussion. Um so let's kind of see where the board wants to go here. >> And I would like to make a motion. Um I'd like to make a motion to modify the initial appointment of the chair and vice chair leading the superintendent search. I believe everyone should be involved in the process which we've we've discussed and um it's and and the discussion the whole board should have a say on who we hire. It's a very instrumental hire for the superintendent and we need a comp comprehensive process and that's that's all my motion is. It's just that I believe that we as a board should all be truly involved in it and take away that initial motion which I know you >> motion is to resend that. >> Yeah. Kind of Yeah. resend that and change it. So then we all have a say. It's not I mean and then we'll work toward the process together. >> Sure. >> Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on that? >> What did I mean? >> Please clarify. >> Yeah. I don't know what you said. >> My motion. >> Well, I guess I mean are you trying to make it more kind of like for the >> collaborative? Yeah. Well, okay. And that's kind of what he was also saying, but I think the initial emotion was that the chair and vice chair would kind of >> be in charge of the process at first, which I don't believe we even need to do anymore because I think we're going to be more open and collaborative now. >> So that's my motion. >> Okay. Member Tyson. >> Well, and I was just going to add that, you know, it's a pretty significant role. It's the one person that our board hires and I think it's a really important duty that we're tasked with and so I think >> we should all be guiding the process and we should all be doing equal parts and um being engaged and doing the work together and I just think that's going to be the best collaborative way and have the best outcome for us. Um I think we'd do a disservice to the district if we didn't do a search. I think a search is highly valuable. It's professional. They do the timeline for us. They help us with in-n-out baskets, establishing what criteria we're looking for. And we can also do the board evaluation >> together, which is I've done that before. It's a great experience. It can lead us into what um we're looking for. >> Are we going to be able to do that board evaluation before? I mean, I thought Gail was Gilman was booked through >> that strategic plan. Oh, different. >> We're talking about it. Well, >> yep. Yep. We're talking superintendent search. There's a there's a process. Yeah. There's a >> evaluation. >> Yeah. There's a process that MSBA has if you utilize their executive search function where they'll do a board evaluation where they sit down all board members and and this kind of gets to the the crux of why we had the initial motion on the uh the chair and the vice chair trying to figure out what the process was >> because there's a hundred different options. Yeah. >> So, kind of getting back to the motion that's on the table here, my >> my fear of that is now every discussion on the superintendent, it requires a full board meeting and requires all of us to sit here and then uh rather than maybe vetting two or three potential search um firms. We have to vet pretty much all of them. And I've probably had five or six different ones email me and um offer services. So, I guess I I I have a little apprehension in rescending that initial act that that we did a few months ago. Not because I don't think the entire board needs to be involved, but because I think we need to narrow down the focus and and that was a big part of why I wanted to to get member Corkran appointed as the vice chair to help with that process because I did not want to be handling it unilaterally. Um, so that that's my personal concern or that that's my concern on the uh the motion that's on the table. But uh is there any other discussion that >> Christian? >> Well, I would just say as far as the motion on the table, um the evening that Dr. Massie presented his um retirement was, you know, it was an emotional time and um there was just kind of a lot going on and and the motion was this the motion the way it started um Mr. chair was uh you know I moved to accept his resignation and that the president and the vice president can initiate and do the search and I think that part of it at least I can only speak for myself got lost because I don't think I would have voted for that. I mean, that vote was unanimous, but I think those were two separate things. We're accepting the superintendent's retirement period and then let's talk about how we want to do the search committee because I think um again kind of like how we talked about the opening on uh the vacancy here. I mean, we have to do it right. this is, you know, the main job of the school board and I feel super strongly that we need to hire some sort of a search firm to guide us, you know, for some reasons that member Tyson already listed, but you know, they specialize in this. They know how to do that. We don't know how to do that. We have our own jobs. The only people have been here before when there's a superintendent, in my understanding, is member Corkran and member Tyson. So, this is all new. I just think there's a lot of pitfalls that we might not know about. I mean, we could unintentionally, you know, discriminate against someone or we could unintentionally, you know, not follow the rule or all these kinds of different things. And so, I think a search party, a search firm is just imperative. I I don't know how we can do something this big on our own or even leaving it to just two members. I don't I don't think we can do that. I mean once we can hire a search firm and agree on that and there's just a few I mean we don't have to expand it to you know outside the state or all these multiple thing I mean I know there's a lot of them but I think we can rein that in as far as cost or you know that kind of a thing but I think um a really important thing is that they can ensure that the deadlines are met that we're not missing any details they are a neutral third party which I think is huge that can reduce even just the perception of bias or anything like that. They're transparent. We can have comm uh community confidence. They can do surveys. They can do >> order here. Um Christensen, that the >> whether or not we hire a search firm has nothing to do with the motion that's on the table. >> The motion that's on the table would be to resend the authority given to the chair and the vice chair. That is a completely separate topic. >> Well, excuse me. I was um member Anchinson asked for clarification and she was wondering what what the motion was and so I I'm sorry I was >> I was speaking to how the motion originally made um >> Yes. >> Okay. just >> I mean my understanding was >> okay yes initially it's the chair and the vice chair to have somebody you know at the helm whatever but I I it's never been my understanding that we weren't going to do this together like it was I mean >> that was not clear well I'm glad that you feel you know I don't I don't know that that was clear >> I thought we already talked about we'd really love it to be you know a unanimous vote when you get to the superintendent hiring ing and so I don't know. >> Yeah. And that certainly wasn't the intent of the original motion. The original motion was basically to facilitate the >> process get that process rolling, get that ball rolling. >> Um it wasn't to bring a final candidate here and say here's the choice. >> It was to uh to start with the application process to start vetting out some of the uh the different search firms that we could use and then come back to that board with recommendation. Um the authorization that was given to the chair and the vice chair certainly wasn't enough for uh member Horker and myself to go and hire a search firm on our own. We would have to come back to the board to make that decision. So I think there might be a misunderstanding over the authority that's been vested in the chair and the vice chair. It certainly isn't all-encompassing. >> Well, thank you for that clarification. I mean, I didn't think that you would bring forward a candidate. I didn't I I assumed that there would be some sort of a process, but I just haven't heard anything. I haven't even when it was posted. Um I mean, we did have one email about that, but I mean, I just haven't heard anything. I don't know. >> There has been very little action taken on that specifically because the vice chair did resign. >> Um I didn't feel it was appropriate to act unilaterally, which is one of the reasons I reached out to me Corkran and asked for her appointment this evening. >> Yeah. Yeah. member Castle. >> So if we change it from the chair and the vice chair to all of us, that's a quorum and it's a special meeting or we do it on a on a meeting day. >> Every single decision changes the whole scope. >> Member Tyson. So just to clarify, member chair, you you were just seeing that that collaboration with the vice chair [clears throat] was just to kind of synthesize information before it's brought to the full board and to look at price location of just the search firms. Correct. >> Correct. or like the uh the um I believe I shared in a meeting uh probably probably about a month ago at this point now that I've had a conversation with MSBA about the services that they could provide provided the board with a summary on that. It was shortly thereafter that uh member Haggley resigned from the board. So, I just didn't feel it was appropriate to continue unilaterally, especially since MSBA shared with me that our target for a search window would really be mid January to early February to kick that off. Um, that was the target date that we were looking at. So, >> so to member Corkran then, is that your perception of what this was or does that change it? cuz I do understand what member Castle's saying is that then yeah, we'll need the full board to get together and >> yeah, I mean if it's maybe I misunderstood too. Um but yeah, I mean >> Yeah, member Christian. >> No, I guess I have a question. Um could that be something that staff can do? I mean, can staff make [clears throat] a recommend? I don't know who which staff member, but they could say um you know, these search firms do this blah blah blah. here's an approximate cost and then that would just be something that we could discuss here at the table and and just vote on something something like that. >> We could delegate. We as a board have the option to delegate at any time. Although I would uh I would advise against delegation because there's a possibility for a conflict of interest uh for a staff member to make that decision. As you mentioned, it is one of the biggest decisions we make as a board. So, I think it's important that we lead it as a board. >> Excuse me. I don't mean they would offer the recommendation. They could say, "Here's five search committees or 10 or whatever. Here's how much they cost." Just like here's your piece of paper, you know, here's the information and then we could talk about that so that you wouldn't have to be out there making, you know, these phone calls. Um, and and back to the earlier point about uh you guys were just going to be facilitating. I mean, I think you you chose um when the deadline would be for the applications and and those kinds of things. So, that seems like those are decisions that that that you were making, not just about whether we hire a search committee, but what is the deadline for the applications? >> The the initial deadline for the applications was set up, yes, based on when we were going to have our next meeting and when we were going to discuss it as a full board again. >> Yeah. But so, some Yeah. Some decisions had been made. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Is well you two I'm sorry member Tyson and member Corkran have been through this before. Do you remember much of the process like how didn't you say no that was for a board member how long the process is or you you know utilize MSBA to >> Yeah, we used we used MSBA and they came >> and yeah okay so there's already one that we have to reach out to to ask and what is the whole package they can help us with and how much is it >> and I think we're drifting off the motion again here. >> Okay, we are we're drifting some information to share. >> I'd love to But I would not be in favor of staff doing that. Um that just doesn't I'm just not comfortable with that. Um but I'm just wondering if this if this chair and vice chair um just to get search information to the board. >> It and it ends there. >> That that was the intent of the motion. Yes. >> Okay. Well then I can >> So if it ends there Okay. >> Can I resend my or change my motion? I think let's >> we can it belongs to yeah belongs to the body at this point in time but if we want to >> change it >> um if we want uh we can end discussion on it we can vote on it quick and then we can move on to additional discussion about what next steps are. I >> member Christian >> I guess I haven't just a a little bit of an uneasiness still. I mean you're saying that oh it's just not too much. We're just going to do this little part over here. But I mean it could veer off down some roads or some rabbit holes that we're not aware of or something ex you know something could come up and you could say oh well you know we just talked about it and decided on it or something. I mean, I'm not >> member Corkin and I have not been granted authority to make decisions. We've only been granted to initiate the process, >> which is already done. It's already initiated >> more or less. Yes. To initiate the process, make recommendations to the full board. We need full board authority to >> decide on any next steps. >> We do. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. member antinson. >> Can I add on to or say how about if if somebody you know we can all look online and say what what places are out there that do this and send them to both you two and >> to to maybe we send a letter out to six or seven different places to ask how much >> how can they help us. You know what I'm saying? We all have the ability to do that. I I don't understand what's >> and if I can provide a point of clarification. Um ultimately there are a number of firms that do this. >> Yeah. >> Um I think a decision would need to be made on how many you would want a full proposal from, >> right? >> They would most likely come to a board meeting, >> make a presentation of their services >> and what the process might look like and their cost, >> right? >> That then the board would deliberate on and make a selection. And I think it can be helpful to talk to other districts that we can reach out to that we know have been through the process and who did you use for your search. Um I know we did that in the past with the last one, but yeah, they'll send a proposal. They'll want to come and present it um when we pick like the top three or whatever. So, >> um yeah, >> I'm going to admit really quick here. I I've done a terrible job keeping the discussion on this motion and I've done a terrible job of actually disposing of this motion. So, I'd like to propose we dispose of the motion. If we don't have an objection to that, we'll move to a vote >> unless you have something to add to the motion. Member Christensen. >> This won't close discussion on the superintendent search. >> I know, but I have I guess I have maybe a a clarifying sort of question. Sure. So again, member chair and to the vice chair, you have um the word was to initiate or facilitate the start of the search and I understand that and now if we're talking about maybe that that's okay that you guys can can do that. I just want to state my point again that I feel like there is a little bit of a danger of sort of a mission creep. for example, the position was posted with a deadline with your member chair with your email on it that anybody who had questions about the position should should email you. And I just I mean I just have con concerns about that um that should come to either the board or again if we had a search firm that would come to them. I know that's not the motion right now, but so so I'm just >> I think standard practice is that they email the the chair or existing administration. So, I think that was just a matter of course, but uh that that wasn't certainly wasn't a directive of mine that they could only email me. >> Well, I just was curious how your email was on that instead of, you know, like Donna Freriedman, the head of HR or who whose email should that's what I'm talking about. I just >> human resources isn't the hiring [clears throat] body for this role. We are >> Well, again, then it should have been there. Yeah. Okay. >> But [clears throat] all right. All right. Can can we dispose of this motion quickly and then move on to additional discussion on superintendent search? >> Okay. So the the motion is to resend the authority vested to the chair the vice chair >> on the initiation and the kind of the facilitation of the search. Is that how we understand it? >> Point of clarification on my end that doesn't resend the motion that was passed that even which included the acceptance. >> It does not >> retire. Let us be if we can be clear that >> correct. It does not. It only uh rescends the portion of the the authority vested to the chair and the vice chair. >> Okay. Is there any other questions or comments on the the motion that's on the table here? Okay. So, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Those opposed? No. >> No. >> I'm gonna call division on that. I'm not quite sure how that went down. Um, >> can you explain again what's a yes vote and what's a no vote? >> Okay. >> A yes vote on this is that uh we're rescending the authority given to the chair and the vice chair to help facilitate the uh the superintendent search that the initiation process not to make decisions but just to facilitate it. A no vote on this is that we're okay with the chair and the vice chair still collaborating on this >> and moving on. Does that make sense? >> Yes. And also that if it's rescended the entire board would be involved as a quorum as opposed to just the two that doesn't make a quorum. >> Correct. >> Not that we can't talk to each other and and >> correct >> correspond. >> Yep. Yep. >> But as a important clarification there member Castle is we were not the the chair and the vice chair were not given the authority to make decisions in the process. the full board still makes the decisions. >> Um we're just kind of facilitating the behind the-scenes work to bring those decisions to the board um collectively. >> Okay. Does does that make more sense now as of the motion on the table? >> Okay. Then I'll ask the clerk to to take a roll call on this. A a yes is to resend the authority of the chair and the vice chair. >> Okay. >> A no is to move forward as the process currently is. Okay. >> All right. We ready? >> I hope so. [laughter] >> Member Castle. >> No. >> Member Corkran. I'm still uncertain. I don't know. >> I'm the one that made the motion, but now I'm confused about it all. So, but I guess I'll say I'll I'll say yes. >> Member Tyson. No. Member Christensen, >> yes. >> Member Rebeline, >> no. >> And member Antonson votes no. >> Okay. Motion fails. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. Let's go back now to to superintendent search process discussion. >> If I can summarize what we just went through here. Um when I got way off way offkilter here on I'm trying to keep it gerain of the discussion here. Um, I think what I hear is the board as a majority would like to hear some proposals from some search uh firms on >> I think that's a good idea. >> Yeah. And I would I would like to start with proposing that we definitely hear from MSBA. Member Tyson did find some information on that. Um, I have already had a discussion with MSBA very early in the process about what uh proc or what services they can offer. I would like to suggest that we vet at least one or two other search firms in addition to MSBA before we make any discussions going or decisions going forward. >> Um, this is where I think it gets important that uh member Corker and I still have a little bit of authority in this process is I don't know if we can be ready for those presentations to happen at the next board meeting on the 20th. Um, I I would hope that we could make it happen by the 4th, but uh um I guess I would ask the board for just a little bit of leniency in when we actually make that happen >> with the holidays coming up. So, >> yeah, member Castle >> and also any other board member can suggest to the chair and the vice chair >> and I would say please do >> an outfit and to to consider. Yeah, I would say please do and member Cork and I I have received a number of emails on this over the past month or so here. Um I believe I've done a good job of saving them. So I will forward you that information that I have received from various search firms so that you have the same information I do. >> Okay, >> I'll get that done in the next few days. >> Okay. And also I have um with the applicants that we've already received, have they been told that that the process might change and because they might be waiting? I mean, I just want to make sure that they're notified so they're not hanging out there wondering what's going on. >> We did have a human resources uh reach out to them. >> Okay. Okay. >> When we extended the date the first time after member Hegeland's resignation. >> Okay. >> Um we should absolutely provide them with an update. Um now that we're we're looking at engaging search. >> Okay. >> And I think the date on the current um the current posting I I think it has a due date of December 3rd. >> Okay. >> So we would want to do it before the December 4th meeting. So maybe we discussed that at our November 20th meeting >> at a minimum. >> Yeah. I' I'd recommend maybe um Joy or the admin would let them know. I mean, I don't know who currently let them know about the extension. >> Director Freeman did. >> Okay. >> I believe director Freeman. >> Okay. So, yeah. >> And then just to clarify, once a search firm is selected by us, >> then they realize that their applications get flowed into the search firm's information. Yes. >> Assuming we hire a search firm. Yes. Because we we still have the option that we could just go with the applicants that we have as well. >> And we have received >> seven or eight applicants. >> Um I haven't reviewed any of those resumes. I would I would suggest if we do review them that we ask staff to redact names, dates from them just to eliminate any bias. if we do review them. I would hate for a board member to go in and and say, "Well, I'm off the we don't need to do an executive search because I have my person right here." I' I'd rather they look at qualifications and >> um make the decision that way. >> I'm just curious about that though because I've never heard [clears throat] of redacting personal information off of applications and I mean when they emailed it in or sent it in, they of course want that information shared. Correct. >> So, >> yes, we want to redact it. >> Um, >> so I haven't seen any of that information. >> That's all. >> Human resources has seen it. >> Okay. >> Uh, I've just used this as a standard practice when I've done an initial review of resumeumés and all the hiring that I've done over the years. And I've found that uh it's been extremely beneficial and just eliminating any any potential bias. you see a name there that you recognize, you may, well, I like this person or I don't like this person. I have a good association or I have a bad association. Um, I've always liked to start the hiring process by looking at >> the qualifications and merit. What can they bring to the table? >> What experiences do they have? Um, that's just a personal recommendation. Of course, it's up to the the board to decide whether that's a good idea or not. >> Well, I just know when we did went through the search the last time, none of nothing was redacted through MSPA's search. So, um, I mean, I think I mean, to establish a bias based on a name, I think you're always looking at the the meat of it, right? The qualifications, the experience, the leadership skills. So, >> I think >> I guess I've never thought of that. >> I I have a motion really quick here. I think it does raise a good question on whether or not we should even review the resumes that we've received thus far if we want to look into a search. So, I would ask the board um that question is um I got to figure out how I want to word this motion, but to uh >> um >> I would I would move to to >> gosh, >> postpone. I would I would move for the the board to voluntarily postpone reviewing applications until the December 4th meeting at the earliest so that we can make a decision about next steps prior to doing so. >> I think that's a good idea. Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and second. Do we have any discussion on that motion? >> I just think that's the pertinent way to do it. It'll go to the search firm then >> and that would include the the chair and the vice chair just for clarity. >> Yep. I agree. >> Is there any discussion on that motion? >> All right. Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed. >> Okay. Um, member Christensen, you had >> I just had a point. Um, when you were talking about redaction, I mean, I'm assuming that you're hiring in the private sector. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So, in the public sector, I'm going to again a search firm can help us with that, but I'm going to guess correct hiring in the public sector there's going to be rules and different things >> um, you know, that we have to follow. The public sector is a little bit more limiting actually because when we get to the when we get to the board and we're actually discussing the various applicants that we like um until they're selected as finalists for public interview, we have to protect their identities. >> No, I understand that. >> Yeah. That there's >> I understand that. I'm just speaking to the redaction because I just you know I >> but uh that would now be a moot point because uh we're not going to look at it for at least a month. So, >> is there any other discussion we want to have on the superintendent search process here this evening? >> Well, I do have this information that I was just send around. Um, I did hear back from Barb Dorne. She she um initiates and does the searches. They now do MSBA, a full search >> and uh they call it a limited search. So, I'm just going to pass that around. Um, this I'm just familiar with MSBA because we used them last time. I also know that I took this out of the journal because we all get the journal um publication from MSBA, but they do also have a hiring the right superintendent >> um >> workshop if we wanted to do that so we all can learn about it. >> I just kind of circled it at the bottom. I know member Antinson was interested in learning more about how to even do the process. So [clears throat] >> this from the most recent journal. >> Yeah. Do you do you want me to >> Oh, actually, let's >> I was actually looking at that, too. And the cost is like $13.95 for >> for >> them to come for them to come in. Okay. >> And actually come in physically and work with you or virtual was $1,000. So, >> if you want to understand different ways, >> uh, you know, kind of it kind of breaks down if you want to use a consultant and setting a timeline. is kind of instructing the, you know, board members what to look for and how the process works. >> And is it a 2-hour virtual meeting? >> Uh, does it say >> it does not say, but it is um to talk to um Barb Dorne, >> and that that's who I spoke to on the phone that day, I believe, too. >> She's the she's the one you want to talk to. um >> doesn't say. >> Member Tyson, would you mind giving these documents to Joy after the meeting and then having uh her provide copies to the board? >> Do you want me to pass this down? >> Yeah. >> To to the Here, I'll pass. >> Well, it does say it includes all the time and materials. So, >> Okay. >> And Joy, when could you scan those in and just email them to us? >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> That would be helpful. That's nice. >> Just the whole board. >> Okay. >> Castle. >> So, I would be under the assumption that if we do hire a search firm >> that we would instruct them to look at the current applicants. >> Yes. Correct. >> Yeah. That that would absolutely. Yeah. I Yeah. I would also add to that we would probably want to give our current applicants the opportunity to reapply should they want to update their application for whatever reason too. So I think we want to [clears throat] be as open with that process as we can. >> Um >> we don't want to penalize the current applicants in any way, shape or form. And do you want HR to do that then or? >> Um, I think we make that decision once we decide if we're going to move forward with a >> a process or not. I I think we just want to be very >> very accommodating and and give our current applicants the benefit of the doubt that uh um they're not going to have it held against him that they were an early applicant or held against them that they had to reapply or anything like that. We we don't want that to occur. All right. So, very good discussion on that this evening. If there's no additional discussion, we'll move on to uh the next items here. Okay. We'll move on to N or 10.2, the first reading of the mandated reporting of child neglect or physical or sexual abuse policy 414A. Dr. Massie, >> purpose of this policy is to make clear the statutory requirements of school personnel to report suspected child neglect or physical or sexual abuse. You'll notice in the topic title a u number change on the policy from 522 to 414A. You also see on um page five updated language with reference to new Minnesota law and statutes. >> All right. >> First reading will take action next month. And then 10.3 we have another first reading mandated reporting of male treatment of vulnerable adults policy 414B which was previously 414 >> which would be the only change recommended on this policy would be the name the number change. >> Okay. >> That's a very simple one. >> And then that will bring us to a number of first readings with director Jacobson on um curriculum. So, we'll start with the >> uh personal finance as a course taken in grade 11 or 12. >> Thank you, Chair Revel, members of the board. Dr. Massie, thanks for having me tonight. Yes, I have a little work for you to look through over the next couple uh next month or so. Uh we have seven courses we'd like to bring uh to your consideration. I think all quality additions to our high school program. Uh the first one you see there, 9.4, Four is the first reading on a personal finance course. Um, recent Minnesota statute requires that students in Minnesota take a personal finance course in order to graduate. I think we all could agree easily that this is a fine idea. Uh we have built and presented in front of you a a a personal finance course uh that would be uh designed for students in either the 11th or 12th grade uh and would cover essential topics related to earning, spending, saving, investing, borrowing and protect protecting financial assets. Um uh state Minnesota doesn't have standards in the area of personal finance. So they put together a task force that created a framework that school districts could use when designing their personal finance course. We leaned into that framework when creating this course. Uh and uh you'll have the uh an opportunity to look at this again at the December 4th meeting, I anticipate. Um and if approved, this would go into our registration guide for this winter for students to take in 11th or 12th grade next year. >> All right. Thank you. That'll move us to uh AP business. >> Uh in [clears throat] also in alignment with that and very similar to the course that I just described, um we have before you the uh the recommendation to also approve to meet that same state requirement an AP business uh with personal finance course. This would also be designed to satisfy that state requirement. Um, but this would be a highly rigorous course designed by advanced placement that would touch on a lot of the same concepts that I just mentioned in regards to the personal finance course while layering layering in some business uh management uh elements to it. Uh it layers in and has some key concepts in business management, entrepreneurship, marketing and finance. Uh and through the course students complete two projects. The first it will have them uh apply their learning of business concepts to entrepreneurial uh activities that they do that are similar or parallel those of uh current business leaders including product development, customer research, marketing and preparing financial documents. And then the second project that they would take toward the end of the course would have them participating as a financial advisor >> uh and which they would provide financial recommendations to a f fictitional um household based on their financial profile. So students learning personal finance while at the same time learning on how to be a financial adviser or go into business. Uh students like all AP courses can earn a college credit by passing the course and earning a three or higher on the end of course exam. Uh this particular course is part of AP's new kickstart career kickstart program uh in which students can also carry forward with them after the course a credential that they could pl put on their resume if they wanted to go right into the business field right out of high school. Wow. So, um that again that would that would students would have these two options of taking the personal finance course that I just described or the first one uh to meet that new state requirement. >> All right, sounds good. Uh 10.6 woven Histories Minnesota and the world. >> Yeah. So, also a couple uh recent Minnesota statute is that school districts need to offer an ethnic studies course in their high school experience. Um we took a look at the uh the state standards for ethnic studies and pulled the team together and we created a course that I think is a would create a very good experience for students. Uh we took a really local angle on interpreting those standards having students do a lot of learning in our local community and in win Minnesota more broadly. Uh this would be a a course that in involves a lot of student research and exploration. Uh students finding their own areas of interest and going out and finding information and having bringing that back into class presentations, class projects, class discussion less teacherdirected but more teacher facilitated. Um, we find I we I we designed this course with an an eye on helping our students uh find genuine curiosity and backgrounds that might [snorts] be different of their in their own and learning about those. I think that in our world today uh leaders who uh learn about the perspectives of others try to see their perspectives and the world through their their eyes. um listen genuinely to others typically have the opportunity to be a bit better world leader, a better business leader and that this is what this course would would involve. And there you have in front of you the course description. >> All right. Uh 10.7 basic construction fundamentals courses. >> Yeah. also in the area of creating opportunities for our students and filling out our our career pathway wheel at the high school. Um our high school CTE coordinator uh who is in the audience behind me, I still believe Mike uh Mirron worked with the local 49 operating engineers to identify four new course offerings in the area of heavy equipment operation. Uh these courses provide opportunities for students to gain entry level skills and operating heavy equipment and the possibility of earning dual credit through the district and through North Henipin Community College. Um these courses were co-articulated through the local 49 operating engineers. Um, and we were actually approached by that that group due to the um already fairly well-developed CTE program that we have here in Forest Lake. Again, giving K students, our students as many opportunities to uh chase different passion areas, gain skills even prior to graduation um in in a number of areas. This is this is, you know, I think our CTE wheel has really blossomed over the year due to uh the work that Mike Miran and Molly Bonnet and the high school principal there Jim Cwell and of course with the teachers at the building. Um and this would be four new courses that uh students could take. They are sequential in nature if you're curious about that from basic construction fundamentals all the way through construction explorations. And as mentioned, students can earn dual credit in these courses if they earn in three of the four courses if they earn a B or higher. >> All right. Thank you. 10.8. >> I got a question. >> Go ahead. >> Um, so I know that there are virtual pilot training, but I don't know how you can reduce the cost on having to have heavy equipment to operate. >> Yeah. So the partnership that we have with the local 49, they're interested in providing a lot of those experiences for us at no cost to the school district. I think we we should also pay attention to we have uh I think uh we're beholden to our local community as well and we've got uh uh employers uh in our in Forest Lake uh school district and and the communities that that we serve that sell and operate heavy equipment. And I think we would be, if this is board approved, highly interested in partnering even with them again, sending back into our community graduates that are ready to hit the job and and running and working in their in their businesses. >> Perhaps we could reduce our snow removal costs by having students. [laughter] >> Oh, member Tyson, >> do you mind if we back up to 10.6? >> Please. >> It's just a quick question. I read in there that is it a requirement to take US history a first? >> Yeah. So I thank you for asking that uh member Tyson. This would be a course that we would design. Um we're speaking here about the woven histories Minnesota and the world course. Correct. >> Yeah. So this would be a course that we would want students to take in 11th or 12th grade. uh if they take it in 11th grade, the team felt it would be ideal for them to take it second semester so that they would have taken US history a first. Gotcha. >> Yeah. So currently most students at the high school uh take geography in 9th grade, world history in 10th grade, US history in 11th grade, and then uh citizenship uh and government and in 12th grade. this course they felt like the way that they designed it and the depth that they're going to go into some discussion some research really would be best designed for 11th or 12th grade student. >> Okay, makes sense. And it's an elective, right? >> It is an elective course. >> Great. Thank you. [snorts] >> Okay, I think we will move on here to uh 10.8 basic grade and construction math course. And I have these three times in here. [laughter] >> Has he done? >> No. >> Yeah. So I presented all >> It's a very brief >> Yes. Was this part of the group? >> I presented the those series 10.7 through 10.11 together. So I >> I lost track of of so all of these courses um uh basic uh construction fundamentals. [clears throat] You can see that that's 10.7. Uh you can see the course description there. That would be the first course in that sequence. Um there is a basic grade and construction math that is not your typical uh everyday math. If you dig into the course description, you will see that is precisely the re real world uh application of math in an excavating construction type sense. uh that is you know for that really puts math to life for a lot of our young women and men who are interested in in mathematics uh and and uh you know as member Castle mentioned earlier uh making things fun and making it real world and and and I think that that's exactly what that that particular course will do. Uh the C uh 10 uh10 would be um basic ma maintenance and of mobile equipment. Uh and again, we're not going to purchase as a school district a backo or a front-end loader, but we giving students the experience within the classroom and then opportunities uh outside the classroom to do that. Uh and then uh construction explorations would be the the fourth course in that sequence. I should mention um exciting >> that students uh have the opportunity to do field experiences along with these courses >> and can earn 155 of the 144 hours apprentice apprenticeship hours that they need uh to go into the the career field even by just taking these these courses here here in >> course so impressive >> it would that happen if they took all four of these like so over 11th and 12th grade they took all of these they would have [clears throat] all those hours as long as they were successful ful in completing them and >> Yep. >> Yeah. I mean, >> so would they h have some sort of certificate or they would have the hours needed to then go into the job as an apprentice? Is that what you're saying? >> You know, I'm going to turn behind me and see if Mr. And and really he should be >> he should be >> he needs to get the credit for this much more than I do. So, Mr. Would you be willing to answer that question? >> The they would they would earn those hours that if they enter the apprenticeship program, okay, they would take those hours with them. So the college credit is a piece that postsecary credit that is the partnership arrangement that the local 49 has for for their educational component and the apprenticeship hours are the class hours in addition to the field opportunities that the local 49 provides. Okay, which is more of a um >> that that's a collaboration with other schools who are al also offering the program. So if schools if students rather participate in all those experiences, they get varied numbers of apprenticeship hours to bring along with them should they enter the union after high school. >> Okay, that's amazing. >> Amazing. Yeah, I [snorts and clears throat] I I was going to say I think it's pretty incredible that you guys have >> built what we have going on here so far and is um seems to be >> really going well and exploding in a good way, you know. So, I think that's pretty incredible. >> Yeah. Again, we're going to be presenting here as we learned on uh January 15th at MSPA. But uh I would again I would say that the person to my left here has a huge role in developing a lot of the programs either he himself or through his facilitation of teachers. >> Uh Mr. Miron deserves a huge amount of credit. >> Thank you member Tyson. >> We're so proud of our career in tech and all the things that we offer. I mean, schoolboard members are always like, "How are you guys doing this stuff?" So, it's very impressive. I so appreciate all the hard work and dedication. And you know what? We're preparing students to start work the minute they graduate and they have some experience under their belt and certification certification under their belt. So, it's just amazing. I can't say enough. Good. Do you want me to keep going? [laughter] >> Keep saying. >> It's late, but you're not that late. Well, thank you for director Jacobson. I I was I was confused as well because it listed it on here as basic instruction fundamentals courses and then there were singular courses and you talked about four, but we we figured our way through it. >> Yeah, my apologies. >> So, >> all right, with that, that brings us to reviewing upcoming calendar dates. Um, November 20th is going to be an important calendar date for us. It's our next school board meeting and it's also uh the date that applications are due to um fill the vacant board seat. So, if anybody out there listening is interested and qualified, please apply. Um, that will bring us to uh recessing to go into a close session to discuss contract negotiation strategy for Forest Lake Education Association. Um, do I have a motion? >> So, move. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second. Any discussion? >> All right, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed. All right, we are in recess to go into close session.