The main discussion item for today's workshop will be to discuss Keats Avenue. So we will spend some time talking about that area. Uh we will also begin discussions related to allowable working hours and close with next steps.

The city of Lake Elmo through your CIP has programmed $5 million for this project. The total costs of the project are estimated at roughly $50 million, which includes all in cost for design, rightway acquisition, and construction.

Bottom line, Minda can participate in the local south front construction under the cost participation policy because of the full closure access at Keats. This is opportunity to deliver a safer and more efficient corridor with a full state funding and no city cost participation.

Access is reasonable, consistent, and proactive. Mr. Tomasovich, last time we met, you did say reasonable several times and I mentioned you that to my constituents that live in that area is probably not reasonable. And you mentioned there's many people that go beyond their exit to double back. Well, many of those people haven't had to do that for teen years. This is not a high turnover area of apartments. This is long-term living residences that use that road consistently.

I fully agree it there's no discernable data to show there's a safety issue going eastbound to south. I see no reason for any tax dollars from a state, county, or city level to be used to eliminate something when the number one goal of this project is safety.

Has the county considered putting something in the proposal that allows X number of Sundays throughout the construction season as opposed to every Sunday in the construction season? We would be open to that because I think that would seem like it's um gets a little more complicated, but where you can even have the contractor rent Sundays for schedule expediency.

Currently, we have bed and breakfastes that are um allowed, but they have to be owner occupied. So we don't get too many requests, but we do get requests from time to time to people that want to essentially apply for a bed and breakfast, but they don't want to live there, right?

The cost is pretty much prohibited to do that.

I'm I do not support that any change. I think we should avoid short-term rentals as much as we can. We're a quiet residential community. That's part of our character. And I don't see what we get from benefit from short-term rentals as a community. Personally,

I personally don't have an an issue itself with short-term rentals within a itself. But obviously in terms of scale and scope that's another thing. I don't want it everywhere. I would want it a specific limit, specific zoning. Um, and there are 20 different ways to do it. Uh, because the what it does have the ability to do is it actually can cause home prices to go up because you are restricting the supply of available housing stock.

I'm also a person that says you should have opportunity to do with your property as you see fit as long as it's socially acceptable. Right. We have things that regard around lawn height and you know taking care of your property so it's not a nuisance to your neighbor and things of that nature. So I kind of like to have some guard rails on it.

It becomes a lot of work, honestly, when you start licensing and then you have people that aren't following the process. A lot of times you would have to take them to court. Airbnb is hard to work with, too. I've worked with both platforms in the past.

The idea is to look at city finances holistically and come up with I'm going to call it a plan but it's really more of a a a guiding document. So, we're going to have scenarios and we'll have some strategies, but it's not like a locked in plan.

And again, the strategic financial plan is really a decision support tool. We will be able to hopefully um be able to take a look at any um discussion that you guys are having and plug it in and kind of see where that might take us in years uh down the road.

I think one thing to consider because I mean when the mayor and myself and a previous council member joined, you know, we're told at a very high level, well, this is what the, you know, staff has, you know, one staff member has decided is is our fiscal plan, but we really have the plan. and the amount of work that you've done you and and Nina and others have done over the last year to two years to compile this I I don't know what what you have then for moving forward we're all be gone at some point but to make sure that there is something uh an easy to um consume educational feature for all incoming council members to say look this is where we're at this is kind of the the 20 year, 30-year picture.

Your current CIP is a 10-year CIP. The first five years, maybe six years are already neighborhoods that need reconstruction as they stand today. The recommendation today would be so not five years from now, but today. So, they're still part of that catchup.

I just I think councelor Hearn was saying can we slow it down a little to bring a little less financial pressure. That's that was my understanding of what he was talking about. ... it it seems like there's this imbalance there somewhere.

And also my my two cents were just that again as the mayor mentioned when we are doing the the projections that if it is developer paid for that we're obviously not considering that in any of the the CIP costs but also I would be fine with even all cost for a priority five never be tallied as well would be my two cents because to me if it's number five it's not even something that we've it's literally not under actual consideration is it's a high level placeholder.