Lake Elmo City Council — Transcript

Wednesday, August 12, 2026

Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

Votes (3)

Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

No formal action; presented as a recommendation/proposal for future consideration.

Dissent: null

Moved by null · Seconded by null

Sheriff Dan Star presented the 2027 budget proposal, emphasizing the need for an additional deputy in Lake Elmo due to significant residential and commercial growth, increasingly complex calls for service (mental health, substance use), and officer safety concerns. He detailed current staffing, crime statistics (decreased calls but increased reports, steady arrests, proactive traffic enforcement leading to fewer accidents), and the extensive additional services provided by the Sheriff's Office at no extra cost. Council members questioned staffing ratios, budget line items, and the frequency of situations requiring two deputies. The Sheriff confirmed the proposed increase aims to proactively address growth and current understaffing.

CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

No formal action; staff sought direction to prepare for a formal purchase in October.

Dissent: null

Moved by null · Seconded by null

The Fire Chief detailed the rationale for replacing the 78-foot ladder truck, highlighting its operational limitations in a growing city with larger buildings and longer setbacks. He presented options from Rosenbauer, Pierce, and E1, with staff preference leaning towards a Rosenbauer 100-foot tandem-axle platform truck estimated at $1.9 million, with a 2.5-year build time. Council members expressed concerns about the early replacement, the balance between risk and cost, and the potential for delaying the purchase. The Chief underscored rising costs and the need to address current operational disadvantages and safety for firefighters.

Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

No formal action; staff sought direction for revisions ahead of the preliminary levy adoption in September.

Dissent: null

Moved by null · Seconded by null

The presentation covered the draft 2027 budget and levy, framing it within the city's strategic financial planning. Key expenditure increases were identified in public safety (fire captains, additional deputy) and public works (operator, salt purchases, maintenance). A proposed strategy involved gradually transferring development revenues out of the general fund to supplement with tax revenue, aiming for long-term levy stability as development slows. Council members raised questions about the relationship between declining development revenues and future staffing levels, and advocated for 'expense stability' as a formal strategic objective to complement revenue focus.

Notable Quotes (17)

it's been my privilege and honor to have served for the past 10 years as your sheriff.

Sheriff Dan Star [0:57]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

The increase in residential area in the population certainly we continue to see the growth in Lake Elmo, whether it is commercial, whether it's residential... it wouldn't be wise for us to not plan ahead.

Sheriff Dan Star [5:27]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

Very much so. Very much so. Um I you know we started this we started looking at this a few years ago. We partnered with Washington County Community Services... if we can stop that ahead of time, that's that's our goal.

Sheriff Dan Star [24:23]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

This is stuff that is not paid for. This is just the service that you get. If you had your own police department, you would have to pay for all of this stuff extra.

Sheriff Dan Star [30:52]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

So bringing this deputy on would be more trying to catch up maybe because we're already low is what it sounds like.

Council member [36:38]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

It could be daily. It might not happen, but it's a common occurrence. Like it's safe to say it's happened.

Sergeant Ty Jacobson [40:48]
Washington County Sheriff Proposed 2027 Budget

our current ladder operationally u I feel is it puts us at a disadvantage given its current length and looking at the current build times and where our vehicle replacement schedule puts this truck at.

Chief [43:03]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

That truck was specked in 2012, 2013. Um, when there was a mindset in the city that we weren't going to grow, we weren't going to have development. And frankly, the highest building we'll ever see is High Point Surgery Center.

Chief [45:26]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

I don't want to sound extreme, but it feels like every time that truck's got to go up, we're at a dis disadvantage.

Chief [56:39]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

And I guess that's where I'm just struggling a little bit because obviously the risk that we're talking about here is a pretty significant risk. And so I don't want to take it lightly. Um, I'm just I'm struggling with that a little bit.

Council member [1:02:18]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

I just I think this is something we really need to be paying attention to. So, I guess, you know, if this is the direction we need to go, um, I guess I would just push for being able to get it signed as soon as possible, but delivered as late as possible, I guess, would be and payment as late as possible would be my preferred direction.

Council member [1:06:58]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

But I think we need to have a mindset shift of how do we in multiple projects extend it just slightly. That that's my issue with this is like I get that argument but my counterargument is that's a pattern that we're following and when we follow that pattern where we replace things a year earlier than they need to when we could actually maybe take it a year longer over time that really adds up.

Council member [1:09:47]
CIP Project F-012 Ladder One Replacement Project

The item number four on our agenda is draft 2027 budget and levy and ongoing strategic financial planning.

Mayor [1:16:35]
Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

I just want to point out that this discussion is a starting point. Um everything's, you know, we essentially kind of put together all our numbers. We plug in our our strategic planning numbers that we've been working on for the capital stuff and and so we're we're bringing to you our our starting point.

Unknown [1:17:15]
Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

I also wanted to just mention um, one thing that I didn't really put in my my packet, but just wanted to kind of drop it into the conversation is that one of the things I really dislike about um, when we pay so much attention to the levy increase is that that lens presumes that where we are today is the correct baseline.

Unknown [1:17:50]
Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

So I think understanding what the staffing plan is for 15 years from now needs to coincide with what our strategic plan is.

Unknown [1:26:06]
Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

I just I'd really like to add into priority objective B expense stability as well. This is something that I've obviously harked on quite a bit. I feel like we spend a lot of our time talking about the revenue side um and and not enough of the expense.

Unknown [1:27:07]
Draft 2027 Budget and Levy and Ongoing Strategic Financial Planning

Ordinances & Resolutions (18)

2027 budgetOther

Proposed budget for Washington County Sheriff's Office

Police contractOther

Agreement between Lake Elmo and Washington County Sheriff's Office

Community surveyOther

Washington County Sheriff's Office survey from 2023 on public safety concerns

CIPPlan

City of Lake Elmo Capital Improvement Plan

F-012Other

CIP project ID for ladder one replacement

2027 budget and levyOther

Draft budget and property tax levy for the City of Lake Elmo

Strategic financial planningPlan

Ongoing financial planning for the City of Lake Elmo

Two-year strategic planPlan

City of Lake Elmo's strategic plan adopted in early 2025

Comprehensive planPlan

City of Lake Elmo's long-range development plan

NFPAOther

National Fire Protection Association guidelines and standards for equipment life

Post licenseOther

Law enforcement license for officers

State lawOther

Recent change requiring reports for all domestic-related situations (August 1st)

State mandatesOther

Required training courses for law enforcement

National Instate Reported DatabaseOther

System for reporting violent and part one/two crimes

Wage studyOther

Study on city employee wages

Vehicle replacement purchasing policyOther

City policy for replacing vehicles

Mindot studyOther

Study used as a basis for vehicle replacement policy

ESST policyOther

State policy related to earned sick and safe time

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