These streets are actually not eligible for a mill. They're not good candidates for a millin overlay treatment. Um the deterioration of the asphalt is such that any sort of mill and overlay will just throw the totally tear the streets apart. Um once they've kind of cracked full depth like they have full depth asphalt failure the they have to be either reclaimed or torn out and completely reconstructed.

I think it was a great question with the the concrete curb. I think this kind of comes up in the the next agenda item here as well. Um potentially with where maybe we've seen some of those issues. Um I know it's been kind of been brought up at every single time we we go through this process and um that's definitely been something that we've looked at and really have you know done the research on. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think the cost analysis was cost benefit was done on this one, but I think that has been done previously to make that policy decision is kind of why that's in our policy for our pavement management plan.

I'm here to talk about this 17,200 assessment plus 5.5% interest over 15 years for street utility improvements. that will not only severely financially burden me, but also are fun fundamentally unjust, I believe, given what I've already contributed to Lake Elmo.

Absolutely. Thank you. Excellent question. So concrete curb and gutter um is a strategy in in you know local neighborhood streets especially um when you're using buminous that [clears throat] it does a few things. It it confines the batuminous. All right. Batuminous asphalt is flexible. Okay. A lot of times, especially in areas where you don't see concrete, you'll see a um where you can tell where the school bus or where the where the the garbage truck goes, you see that deterioration start to develop almost like a tire track kind of on the edge of the road. And that's because [clears throat] when um we go through our our thaw cycle, you know, and there's any sort of heavy loading on a vehicle that's not restricted like a garbage truck or a school bus, it starts to flex. [clears throat] But tumis uh when it's confined by concrete, it can't expand and crack as well as it can if it's unconfined.

I think that, you know, the point made by the residents on 57th Street about was built in 2010. Now, we're 15 years later. I know we perhaps wasn't built to the right standards or whatever. I would contend, you know, the city had the ability to build it to the right standards. None of us were here then. Um, but it wasn't. But are we penalizing them because we made a bad decision and I think some reduction would be appropriate for that.

I just think staff at both the district and the city need kudos on this because the this project was an extremely fast-tracked project and the amount of work that was required to get utilities there and the originality and figure out solutions was pretty high. But there are 2,000 students between those two buildings, a lot of staff and a lot of families who are directly benefiting from that work that had to be done on a very fasttrack nature. So, good job.

The issue is that there it's unclear if you I've talked to a dozen people about what could be done and the issue becomes whether the general obligation bonds have to be paid off before you can do anything beneficial there. I've been told that. I've been told that the uh if it's for public benefit, you do not do not need to pay off the general obligation bonds. And what I'm asking for basically, this is what how we zoned. What I'm asking for is whatever time it would require from the city attorney's office to look into this and explain to us what is actually the requirement.

Um I I was to me it seemed like you could approve the my second option here. I think you could approve the comp plan amendment and send it to the M council and let them tell us if there's capacity or not. Now if there's a restriction within the city that that would be then maybe that's different like if the city engineer said no we don't have the capacity within the city to even get it to the M council system. I understand that. But if it's really what we're waiting for is an answer from the Met Council, I think the council could approve the MC plan amendment, send it to the Met Council, then they have 60 days to respond or they could extend it to 120 days, but then we'd know in four months what we could do.

I also think a lot of you've brought everything. We've been working on you've been working on this for years. You've brought you've tried to make it work however you could and you've tried to with the landowner to to make this something that could fit in Lake Elmo and I know you guys have done a lot of iterations of this. Um, and obviously it has to work financially, but it also has to, you know, be within within the standards. And so, I know that that process has been done. So, as far as for these other two options, I just I do feel very open to to looking at those. Again, I I think a lot obviously has to be looked at and there's probably certain portions of that. You know, for example, the the curb on the roads, like maybe that's a non-negotiable, but I do think that I personally would be open to um looking at those exceptions.

I'm intrigued with the 11 parcel one for a couple reasons. One, that is a opportunity is not the right word, but that is a a a type of scenario that Lake Elmo has not created lately. like we have many fantastic 5 to 10 acre lots, but I can't recall a time in in recent decades where there's been an opportunity for additional people to come in and enjoy that type of [snorts] property.

Based on where we're at, uh the information that was provided, uh the EAW document is is a pretty long document. I'm not sure if any of you have had the pleasure to look through that, but there's a lot of different um sections that provide good information on the project. So given that, given the fact that we um feel like all of the different comments have been addressed through the findings of fact document, staff are very comfortable uh recommending the a negative declaration or determination on the need for an EIS.

in the comments from Met Council, I was reading through those and they discussed various things. transportation infrastructure alignment with 2040. They do not discuss any concern about sewer capacity. So I will presume that means that interceptor they don't have concerns over. That interceptor is captured at Lake Elmo Avenue. So this property is located within it's already located in the Musa. It's in the current development phase. So presumably this development is anticipated. All right. because of the fact that it is in the 2040, they presumably should be good to go and ready to accept anything that happens inside the 2040 future zones.