Lake Elmo City Council — Transcript

Wednesday, November 19, 2025

180-Acre Development Project (ULI TAP Presentation)

2026 Crosswalk Improvements

Broadband Franchises Discussion

Staffing Updates

Votes (2)

ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

No Action Taken

The Urban Land Institute (ULI) Technical Assistance Panel (TAP) presented recommendations for developing a 180-acre site in Lake Elmo. The guiding principles included maximizing community benefit (jobs, services, housing, fiscal strength), maintaining rural image, establishing design standards, preserving future flexibility, advancing sustainability, market responsiveness, building internal city staff capacity, integrating open space/trails, and managing transitions. The proposed illustrative plan included heavy industrial (with potential rail spur) and workforce housing options for the southernmost parcel, industrial/office showroom for the central parcel, and commercial along 34th transitioning to higher-density residential (apartments) and then lower-density (townhomes, single-family) for the northernmost parcel. An integrated trail and greenway system was emphasized. Financial analysis indicated that city tax revenue would be similar for both mixed-use and all-industrial scenarios due to fiscal disparities. The panel recommended phased infrastructure investment, clear guidelines for developers, and proactive community engagement. Relocation of the public works building was suggested as a long-term consideration for the commercial value of its current site.

Authorize Engineering Services for 2026 Crosswalk Layouts

Passed Unanimously

Dissent: Council Member Hearn initially questioned the necessity of the Village Parkway study but ultimately voted in favor of the amended motion.

Moved by Council Member Dragitch [0:53:57] · Seconded by Unknown [0:54:15]

The council considered authorizing SRF Consulting for preliminary engineering services, estimated at $22,832, to evaluate three potential crosswalk locations for 2026 installation: Fifth Street and Ivywood Circle, Fifth Street and Julia Avenue, and Village Parkway and Lower 31st Street. These locations were identified based on resident requests and compliance with the city's crosswalk policy (approved in December 2024), which requires a key destination (like a park) nearby. The scope of work includes traffic counts and conceptual layouts, potentially involving advanced features like rapid flash beacons, ADA compliance, and curb work, not just simple striping. A key point of discussion revolved around the timing of traffic counts, with concerns that winter counts would not accurately reflect pedestrian activity, particularly for park access. The council ultimately amended the motion to delay the study until May 2026 to ensure more accurate data collection.

Notable Quotes (10)

This project something we worked on for several months getting it set up and then obviously here for two and a half days with some really uh important questions that we asked of the group and we're really uh excited to to present this to to the group uh council and everyone watching today. Also want to add that this is a first step of developing the 180 acres and this will continue to come back um to planning commission EDA and obviously the council.

Director [0:04:19]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

Uh the first is really maximize community benefit. So the opportunities uh to add jobs uh potential services uh housing options as well as uh improve fiscal strength within the community was something that we really thought about. Uh maintain overall image and character. This is definitely something that we heard a lot uh as part of our interviews uh with community residents um and stakeholders. Uh people really highlighted the natural beauty... they they really love the sort of the rural character and so something that uh really informed a lot of our thinking.

John Slack, Urban Land Institute [0:07:33]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

But it's it's a really good site that supports those potential types of uses. Um I think from a from a phasing standpoint, and not to get too far into it, but, uh, parcel one is the the furthest parcel of the south is the parcel that's most ready to go. Uh it's the parcel that has utilities in place. Uh and, uh, you just have to work on access.

John Slack, Urban Land Institute [0:12:06]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

I think developers if they were going to look at this would want to approach this with the idea that they have flexibility. So in that design we show the five buildings but what would actually happen is they would probably try to control that entire site and then once the first user shows up for the first building and let's say that's 100,000 square foot build a suit then that would kind of set the ground rules for what the subsequent buildings would end up being.

Mark Hogy, ULI Co-Chair [0:20:11]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

I think the takeaway here is that because of how the fiscal disparity act is set up, whether you do industrial or housing, it's going to net the same result back to the city in terms of property tax revenue.

Mark Hogy, ULI Co-Chair [0:23:45]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

So this study looks only at the property tax comparison between different alternatives. Doesn't look at other revenue or expense that will be incurred. For instance, you know, residential development creates a greater demand for city services than commercial. Um, and if we go beyond the city, we have the school district and the county and and so, you know, I think it's a good comparison on the tax side, but I think if you could take a holistic approach, you have to think about what's the total impact of the development.

Council Member Dragitch [0:26:24]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

So, at the risk of oversimplifying it, what this is saying is the tax revenue coming back to the city is going to be relatively the same if you do this mix of uses that we proposed versus if it were all industrial. Okay.

Mark Hogy, ULI Co-Chair [0:37:00]
ULI TAP Presentation on 180-Acre Development

Last year, council approved crosswalk policy right about a year ago in December 2024 um that the city uses to evaluate [clears throat] um whether or not a pedestrian crosswalk should go in.

Mr. Stanley, City Engineer [0:44:48]
Authorize Engineering Services for 2026 Crosswalk Layouts

So, I mean, it sounds like this isn't just as simple as putting some stripes down on the street with these streets. This is going to be looking at possibly um some lights or uh additional aspects than just painting some lines down.

Council Member Hearn [0:49:50]
Authorize Engineering Services for 2026 Crosswalk Layouts

When would they do their study as winter is coming? I don't think there's really any utility to study how many kids are going to the park in January.

Council Member Holtz [0:51:30]
Authorize Engineering Services for 2026 Crosswalk Layouts

Ordinances & Resolutions (18)

Consent AgendaOther

Agenda item for routine approvals, including various pay requests and fund acceptances.

Pay Request #1 Final for 2025 Striping ProjectOther

Approval of final payment for the 2025 striping project.

Pay Request #1 for 2025 Mill and Overlay ProjectOther

Approval of payment for the 2025 mill and overlay project.

Pay Request #2 for 2025 Crack Seal ProjectOther

Approval of payment for the 2025 crack seal project.

Pay Request #2 for I94 Lift Station and Force Main ImprovementsOther

Approval of payment for I94 lift station and force main improvements.

Pay Request #2 for Reed Park Parking Lot ImprovementsOther

Approval of payment for Reed Park parking lot improvements.

Pay Request #3 for Stillwater Area School District Utility ImprovementsOther

Approval of payment for Stillwater Area School District utility improvements.

Pay Request #5 for 2025 Street and Utility ImprovementsOther

Approval of payment for 2025 street and utility improvements.

Release of Warranty Security for Legacy at Northstar Fourth EditionOther

Approval to release warranty security for a development.

2026 Pay ScalePlan

Approval of the city's pay scale for 2026.

2026 Paid On Call Pay RatesPlan

Approval of pay rates for paid on-call staff in 2026.

East Metro Training Facility Amendment Joint Powers AgreementOther

Approval of an amendment to the joint powers agreement for the East Metro Training Facility.

2026 Crosswalk LayoutsPlan

Conceptual level layouts and planning estimates for potential crosswalk installations in 2026.

Crosswalk PolicyPolicy

City policy approved in December 2024 used to evaluate and implement pedestrian crosswalks.

Comp Plan (2050 plan)Plan

The city's comprehensive plan, with specific mention of the 2050 update.

FCC Case (2005)Other

Federal Communications Commission case where broadband was ruled not a telecommunication service.

Broadband FranchisesOther

Agreements or policies related to franchising broadband service providers.

Franchise Applications (Gateway and Intrepid)Permit

Applications submitted by broadband companies for franchising in Woodbury.

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