Most of these calls are two deputy calls that we go to. Fire chief can speak to that as well. They certainly see the the same type of thing on on their calls. Um officer safety is uh very paramount. We want to make sure our people are safe out there.

If you go to any other city, I guarantee you that they're closing in on $200 to $300 per capita per person. What we're asking for is to add an additional deputy because of the things that we had talked about before. Uh that proposed police service cost would go up to $1.6 million. That comes out to about $11 more per capita per person within the city of Lake Elmo.

Yeah, there's a lot of calls that should be going and sheriff said they're in Lake Elmo call depending on where General is back even with our neighboring agencies depending on where the call is. for our neighboring again just I guess a little more is that like a daily thing that's happening weekly monthly it could be daily couple days it might not happen but it's a common occurrence.

I bring up our truck, the current truck we have. It's it's a 78T stick. Um, if this truck was 100 feet, like I I I know I brought this up last year, but um, operationally, it really puts us at a disadvantage being a shorter apparatus.

I don't want to sound extreme, but it feels like every time that truck's got to go up, we're at a dis disadvantage. Um, three years ago, four years ago, we had a a house fire on Little Blue Stem. Um, even backing that truck up into the driveway, we couldn't get to the other side of the house.

I don't I don't know what the right answer is there. That's why I'm trying to figure out the risk cost analysis here of what is right. Again, when we buy these trucks in the first place, you're expecting 25 years is what we're 25 to 30 years. And so hearing that we're only getting 15 out of it is is challenging to me.

I just want to point out that this discussion is a starting point. Um everything's, you know, we essentially kind of put together all our numbers. We plug in our our strategic planning numbers that we've been working on for the capital stuff and and so we're we're bringing to you our our starting point.

I also wanted to just mention um, one thing that I didn't really put in my my packet, but just wanted to kind of drop it into the conversation is that one of the things I really dislike about um, when we pay so much attention to the levy increase is that that lens presumes that where we are today is the correct baseline. And so I just want us to kind of think about as we're reviewing this um and remember that we are in a strategic mode. We're trying to figure out what we should be at.

I I just I think it has to be in there and I don't know budget sustainability. When I hear budget I'm thinking money in has to match money out is what I think. I've got um these are like the summary titles of the actual like there's more words behind these words. So maybe I'll just review those and see if we can I can see if that kind of comes together a little bit more because I just would like to set that direction I from council to staff to say that is a priority and that that is important because again I think a lot of times of of our fault we say hey we want to do these things and sometimes we need to be reminded that we don't just need to do more right.