e e I I those opposed motion carries presentation and recognition we have we have the napac presentation of annual compliance with Ali mbrook welcome slides to come up and Ally do you mind introducing yourself not everyone has met you before yes um so good evening I'm here on behalf of the Native American parent advisory committee otherwise known as the napac thank you um my name is is Ali midbrook I am a districtwide social worker and I'm a District representative for the napac um this is my fifth year in the district and our fifth year having a AP Pac in the district as well thank you so um as I said I'm here to present the Native American parent advisory committee's annual vote of compliance and I introduced myself already so um per Minnesota statute um it states that a school district in which there are 10 or more Native American students enrolled and um each Native American school must establish a an American Indian education parent advisory committee these are commonly referred to as APAC American Indian parent advisory committee um it's worth to note that our districts um committee has changed that to Native American parent advisory committee which we call the napac um we currently have 44 children from 29 families who identify as Native American and grades K through 12 who attend schools in our district and the purpose of the committee is to serve an advisory role to the district and help ensure that our Native American students are receiving cultur relevant and Equitable educational opportunities um so prior to March 1st of each year the napac must um vote on a resolution of concurrence so when the napac finds that the district and or the school board have been meeting the needs of our Native American students they issue a vote in resolution of non of concurrence pardon me and if they find that the district Andor School Board have not been meeting the needs of our Native American students to issue a vote and resolution of non-c concurrence so this year um after that discussion and looking at some data our napac voted in concurrence so they feel that the district and our school board are meeting the needs of our Native American students in our district all right and then I will provide a brief update on what we have been working on in consultation with our napac so the napac meets five times per year um each year we apply for and receive a grant called American Indian education Aid the goals of of this grant are to support post-secondary preparation for our Native American students support the academic achievement make curriculum relevant to the needs interests and cultural heritage of our Native American students provide positive reinforcement of the self-image and develop Intercultural awareness among pupils parents and staff so some programs that we've been um we've had available in our district that support the goals of this grant we've done Outreach to our Native Americans students and their families um about the opportunities that are available to them uh this fall I partnered with uh Mame High School's counseling department to bring three of our Native American students to the Native American college fair in St Paul we have started a collaboration with District 622 American Indian education department on their family culture nights our families are welcome to join their families um for that community and then we're in discussion about a possible end ofe celebration as well and then uh we also offer a c prep course and college application fee waivers for our Native American High School students and some things we have coming up we're exploring tutoring and possibly literacy enrichment opportunities at no cost of families of native children we're looking to provide summer enrichment kits to include books that highlight Native American characters and culture and craft kits as well um you can see on on the right there's a picture of these beautiful medallions that were made by by a napac parent and last year and she made those for our two graduating native seniors um and she's going to do that for our our graduating seniors this year as well you can see they have the mamei logo and a feather and they are just absolutely beautiful so we um hope to continue that and then uh we'll also look at providing professional development opportunities for staff centered around Native American culture and history including attending the annual Minnesota Indian Education Association conference and that concludes my update so are there any questions I may answer there any questions mam chair yes director Donna was there 20 how many families 29 families could you estimate how many actively participate in the committee yeah we have um three families who um actively regularly participate as well as an indigenous staff member no director rean um are there any new topics or needs or things that have risen to the top with this advisory committee in the last year I mean I know that you've presented to us you know for a number of years now but are there any new topics or things I heard some of the things you're going to be working on but anything that's bubbled up from parents or students yeah I think um right now what the parents really talk about is wanting to engage engage our students students more and so um I have actually been speaking with um a high school student indigenous high school student who might be really interested in joining the committee um the parents would really love to engage our high school students more and get that student voice on our committee so even though it is called a parent committee um our secondary students are welcome to be voting members of that committee um so that I I think that's kind of the recurring theme that keeps coming up that they'd really like to see for comments all right well thank you perfect thank you so much thank you all right and now Max you are up it's my turn again so first of all I'm gonna start off talking about what we we're doing on student council right now we're planning for our spring parents night out which is always super fun watching all the little kids for a night and we're also planning for prom now at Wildwood this I believe in the last month they had a book faar actually last week where they got to go down to the gym buy a handful of books and I remember doing these in my school they were always super fun and in their classes they're actually making string bird feeders for their stem classes and the mod Adventure Club or Mac uh Child Care Program they had a sock donation goal and they actually tripled that last month and all those socks are going to the St Andrews community resource center now at OHA some of their grades got to go ice fishing out on White Bear Lake and there are pictures of that on the E news on the Instagram if you want to go check those out and the student counsil at OA actually put on a food drive last week where they made sculptures of their food in the best class got an ice cream day I don't know why they need more ice cream I candy first now ice cream but if it works it works at the middle school the Shrek junor performance is actually this 20 on the 28th and next month march on the 1st and 2nd in the should TAA make sure to go watch the Middle School play I Remember watching I watched my brother last year I told you guys earlier those are always super fun to watch at the high school we had Valentine's Day Bingo which is their schoolwide bingo event that's always a hit and NASA hunch had their presentations in the Fab Lab last week and I'm going to do a sports update since we have a lot of stuff going on right now now Lucy Auto is going to state for gymnastics Luke vion is going to state for Nordic you know right now girls basketball are in the sections and Oliver Co and Sam McDonald went to state for Alpine about two weeks ago now right now boys basketball has their last season game before they enter sections hockey is in sections at the moment also and wrestling state is this Friday with Evan Maguire Aiden Carlson and Aiden BS all competing for MMI and that about wraps it up for me great thank you and now for our superintendent report okay as always give you some highlights around the district um some awards and noteworthy news and upcoming events um max already made reference to OA going ice fishing and you see a nice picture I think we have some more pictures coming up if you haven't seen them on social media you should definitely check them out um C some big fish had a really good time lots of parent volunteers um some great pictures there so um had the opportunity to see our Wildwood and OHA uh student Arts uh at the Wildwood library and um a lot of students came by to see their artwork hanging up in the library I think I still going just for a little bit longer so if you haven't gotten a chance to see it I think it's h worth your time so congratulations to all the students whose art was chosen for participation the Metro East band performance we had 19 students who recently performed um at the abandon choir festival at uh St Andrews so they were nominated by their directors and um it's always a pretty amazing performance if you haven't been yet an opportunity for you there you go there's another picture of OA ice fishing and I'll just once again um encourage you to see some pictures and I want to thank our science teacher at OHA Katie SW I I think it's swow is how I newer by a different less name last year so she has uh she secured that opportunity by getting a grant so um it's a and it it was a pretty awesome opportunity for um so we're still seeking volunteers to support our high school students for the career internship and volunteer Fair on April 11th business and organization volunteers and also community volunteers um so if you have that opportunity it's a great opportunity for you to meet our students and have a chance to talk talk to them and also an opportunity to really support our students um to review resumés and provide tips today I walked into the high school and we had a um I'd say about 10 community volunteers helping um Deca students prepare for state so um I think and I want to say we have 45 students or so who who qualified so it was pretty great just to see all the the um community volunteers whether they had students here or not just you know sitting at tables and and bringing kids through to help them prepare so uh we really appreciate anyone who can help our students with this the um Community Ed catalog is now available print catalogs are going to be mailed um in early March so watch for that and um summer registry ation opens on March 19th I know um there are some some classes that go fast so right do people need to sit right by their by their computer and get ready at 8 am on March 19th uh so once again our real world design challenge um teams we have two of them uh one the Team Zap one the um does does anyone from Team Zap want to mention anything Ma I don't I could keep going but team does anyone from Team Zap W to oh there's one here Team Zap so would you like to just talk a little bit about real world design challenge so let me bring the mic back real world design challenge it's an annual challenge where you get in teams of seven in your school we have three teams usually every single year and they come out with a conceptual Challenge and this year our challenge was you know design a UAV and unmanned aeronautical vehicle to fly 15 kilm over wildfires and deliver you know a certain supplies and you have they give us all the weights and sizes and you you have to create the Drone in CAD and figure out you know how are you going to power it and the air resistance and basically if you had the money we could make the Drone and you make this big notebook you send it off you go to State and if you win state then you get to go to Nationals which our second team actually got the wild card because they were I believe the second best team in the state so we're all going to go fly down to DC in May I believe May 2nd through 4th so that'll be really fun congratulations to all those students it's it's wonderful and it's great that you get to go in person this time because it's been virtual for a while virtual for like five years so congratulations to you and all the students who made it to State um so max already went through all our state qualifiers um that we have some of those pictures here um but Alex goldfine is also a state qualifier um for debate and this is the first person that we've had from Minnesota sorry from mamei um qualify for the Congressional debate category at state so congratulations to Alex for that also to Chris Bennett for um being selected for Minnesota grades 910 honor jazz band um and um to John over there and Anna we have a number of students who have qualified or who have um are being honored for um for band so congratulations to all of those students and um these are a couple of this is one of our graduates Max Nelson you might recall um he placed 12th in the um cross country Sprint classic for men uh the visually impaired men's uh race um and Ninth and 10 kilometer classics so he's he's uh long been representing mamidi at and national competition so congratulations once again Max and um I I'm sorry I don't know how to pronounce our Jang hungs thank you uh name so he plays 23rd in Cross Country spr Classic so congratulations um and he's class of 2025 so is he someone someone you know yeah so how about that so um congratulations to to both of them for competing at the World Cup we have a class that we started just a couple years ago at mamei middle school and it culminates in the State uh future city competition for some of our students and um so we did have a a group that went so again we're kind of we're newer to future cities but this time this group um the Clover's team uh was a special award winner at the competition went earning the best land serving practices so um so congratulations to to our U Future City group we have a couple students of the month from 916 students of the month so um uh for diesel trucks and also in Dental careers so um our students do participate in our 9916 programs and it's exciting when they uh win this award because they are with with students from across the Metro area who participate in these 916 programs and just some upcoming events if you haven't gotten your zag Gala tickets those are on sale so I'll put in a plug there um and um I want to thank uh Kate Anderson and community ed for that Middle School youth night that's kind that's a a pretty fun event I know for kids and so thanks for putting that together and if you do have time to come to our community lunch on March 5th I know it's in the middle the day but that's always a fun time also to have lunch and meet some people throughout our community that are primarily um have are not currently do not currently have students in our in our district but are part of our community so with that that is my update thank you okay where are we oh so now we're on to the board member calendar which is what I was comparing that to so um does anyone have anything they want to point out on the calendar I will point out that on March 24th is our Zephyr learning showcase and that's always a really fun event and I think we will have the real world design teams here which by the way I think you forgot to say wasn't this your mamei 10th time winning first place at state or 11 so many times anyway I think they'll be here as well as obviously groups from all of our buildings so um then you can get a a a close look at what they're doing um and then I I noticed on your calendar barbett said April 11th is the MHS career day what day is the zephra G Gayla the 11th as well that explains why I had it written down on my agenda last time there it is thank you okay so there's two things going on that day MHS career which is I think a great event we're I mean I think we're probably full on volunteers at this point but okay does anyone else have anything from the calendar to point out um I'll just call out I not seeing it but I'm probably missing it um the community luncheon the date on that Kate is that on here am I missing it and it's on here no it's not it's not on our calendar it was on barbs though I think oh that's where I saw it okay so uh um that's a fun event and um if anybody's free that day it's really great um because you really get to have conversations with community members that we maybe don't see every single day so it's a fun event if you've never been there Paul got shushed at one of them right he was having too much he at the Fun table so that's right be there again I'm I'm getting there for Paul so I can get to that table uh okay anything else all right then next on the agenda are is the second reading of policies so these are brought forward three times before action and um after my fir after the first reading I haven't had any questions from board members or from Community or any other feedback so I have them there um for our second reading but I don't have any updates to any of them does I just have one question um and I think I asked this last time but I just wanted to be sure when I looked at this again so the uh the only question I have is the 613 the graduation requirements when I was looking through that table it really looked like it was more of a rewarding of things not changing of any credits am I reading that correctly if I recall and so um J reel is in the audience um it had it did have to do with um I think if I'm not mistaken health and F had were listed as electives before but they actually are they've always been required and so it was just a well and then we also have personal finance and personal finance is a not required by state law but the science social studies and math that were kind of crossed out in the bottom it was sort of Rewritten up above right that part was it stayed the same as far as credits it was like yes yes and so that whole box was crossed off to be replaced with the new one okay that's what I said okay any other questions or comments okay so this is our second reading so we won't do anything with it tonight but we'll have a third reading and vote on it at our next meeting so if there are any questions or um clarifications you need before then please let me know okay now for Action items approval of donations and grants for February 2025 totaling $448 to19 do I have a motion I move by director second second by director Donna uh any discussion I would like to note all donations and grants are greatly appreciated the use of these funds will be to further the mission of the school district and are used towards the wishes of the donor that all those in favor say I I iOS motion carries now for approval of the 2025 2026 budget reductions and adjustments so um we have been talking we've been approaching this day for a little while now since I think December um and La at the last meeting we brought forward the administration brought forward some uh some recommendations for Budget reu reductions and adjustments um the PowerPoint that you're going to see is largely the same as the one you saw at the study session and um there are a few things that we've clarified or added a little bit to in order to um help with some of your questions thanks to all of you for meeting with me individually and kind of going through your questions so that we could be prepared to talk about this a little Bor tonight I do recognize that there are going to be some things that you still have questions about and so we are prepared to continue to work um on those items that you have questions about when you um at after this meeting and so we'll Contin continue to move forward but we are asking you to approve um those reductions that uh you are able to this evening to get us started and then um we'll move forward on continuing the conversation in at the March meeting as well so with that um we'll get started uh with this I do have the clicker is do you want me to click want me to too bad that's fine get us started so just um as a reminder um we are you had some options in the study section study session and then you gave me some feedback in today is um for you to take some action take action on on some of these options um again as a reminder um like most school districts in Minnesota we're facing challenging budget times right now um and in last year we made about $700,000 in reductions primarily at the secondary school and districtwide and um so so for this year we're looking at an estimated budget reduction of about 2 million um so I'm gonna do you want to take it from here do you want me to keep going sure yeah EI either one I'll click you go for it so when we look overall as Barb mentioned two million we're trying to fill a $2 million gap and so that would be a combination of Revenue raising reductions in expenses and then use of fund balance is what's on the proposal um the amount of fund balance that we're looking at using is 792 th000 that's a that's a pretty specific number um we do know as we're going through these uh the state is coming out with additional information on their budget so these things are subject subject to change but this is this these are our projections and assumptions at this point so uh fund balance policy that's linked of course you've seen this before and after that using that 792 th000 we're at about 8.28% uh projected on the fund balance uh policy so um we look at fund balance and there there's several reasons we want to have fund balance um when we're looking at a 8% which is the that's the that's the threshold of the board policy that's about 29 days of cash or 29 days of liquidity there's a a lot of different ways to put that but if you had uh if you if in a scenario uh that's what we have and ours isn't really that isn't really uncommon that 8% isn't very high the government Finance Officers Association recommends 16% and that's if you don't have things like questionable revenue streams you know those types of things um the other thing that it does that it helps us out in is when we're looking at building bonds and you know we just Finance some bonds um it it does play A Part having a strong fund balance plays a part in getting a lower interest rate so it these are these are really you know probably the big the big three things and also add stability if we have fund balance um we can stabilize programs and that type of thing we can't keep going back to that well but we can stabilize programs uh by dipping into it one time building it back up that type of thing so any questions on fund balance all right we'll go to the next one so again our proposals Revenue adjustments um what's on the table right now is a 20% uh increase in activity fees um they have not been increased for several years and so the revenue estimate there was that that would raise about $56,000 and then looking at class size um a a class size that returns to prepandemic levels and so we look at K5 uh based on Resident and open enrollment applications um that would be uh raising another $429,000 so additional additional enrollment there uh with resident students and open enrollment um we also have another piece in there for Community Education that is a totally separate fund from the general fund and that's what we're talking about tonight is general fund that for most of our activities um Community Education cost cost sharing for for Revenue um that's about4 $40,000 uh increase to revenue so we're looking at about a half million dollars in total of Revenue coming in to try and offset and lessen the amount of expense reductions that we need to do any questions there yes yes I thought when we compared Barb can you explain what said about increasing the fees even though we're higher than surrounding districts already um I don't know about even though I don't know what that part means but he did say that um we have not um increased activity fees in um in several years and it's the case that we are um on the high side compared to our neighboring districts so that is one thing that I know that the board um wants to I based on conv ations with some of you or I've I've heard that come up a couple of times to be able to look at um at those activity fees that was one of our recommendations but remember all of these with all of these these were our recommendations and at the and as a board um if there are some in here that you would like us to reconsider that is that's that's what this process is all about um but it is the case that our activity fees are on the higher end compared to our neighbors that is true we are not the absolute highest but we are on the high end I do have I do have a new slide compared to last time because I had a couple questions about um class size of the elementary so I do have for you um just when I when I'm talking about the recommendation to um return to pre-pandemic levels at the elementary I have a couple of um slides here so I took the average of the three years before the pandemic of the class sizes in kindergarten first grade second third fourth fifth um and just what the recommendation was for us what we're what we're recommending and this is you know to be respon responsible we have a we do have a a responsibility to use our tax dollar as well and so the recom we did bring our class sizes down during covid um um in particular um 2021 they were really low because we were we had some uh requirements around physical distancing and then as we've been coming back those over the past few years um we have our class sizes have remained low um we've some of the grades have come up a little bit from there but um part of it too has been enrollment so our enrollment is now creeping back up and is um is rebounding and so um we are looking more this coming year we are looking more like we did in terms of both resident enrollment and open enrollment applications more like what we what we did during um the years prior to the pandemic and so that's why we are recommending that increase in class size at the elementary um I'll also say that we have for a long time used the bright work study to compare ourselves to other districts and so we always talk about the Metro average when we talk about about our class size at the elementary I will say um districts have started not as many districts are participating in the bright work study anymore and so the usefulness of this data might not um it g gives us an idea of of how we compare to our neighbors our immediate neighbors our class sizes are below in K5 but um but it is difficult to compare across the metro area when not everyone is is participating so when we talk about the Metro average it's maybe not as strong of a metric for us to use in the future so nonetheless this is what we're recommending for um next year for class sizes at the elementary you still have questions about that recommendation I've had a lot so I just want to make sure I've clarified that okay thanks back to you okay so under proposed expenses so we' be looking at uh reducing the number of sections in elementary and that's based on the current enrollment and you can see the the amount of estimated savings on that um class sizes would be one above the 2425 Metro study average and then reducing high school and middle school sections based on enrollment and student course uh choices so combined High School and Middle School uh reduction would be estimated at 144,000 and then other Staffing reducing facilities and ground staff hours uh restructure of Technology support and then a reduction in extra service contracts and that's estimated at 124,000 so um that brings us to a total in those categories of 428,000 any questions on that one director Regan um so the the one where you're saying the bullet point reduce high school and middle school sections based on enrollment in student course choices I'm I'm going off of this now the the spreadsheet I'm assuming that's the um one where you're talking about maybe having like a low enrollment courses or potentially of electives combining or or like a a threshold so yes so I tried to give you some ideas of how the decision would be made so um we every year we look at our enrollment um the current 8th grade class is the small class that's been moving through our system for quite some time uh we don't know what it'll look like in ninth grade but um it has been a small class for us so where right now it looks like it will be a smaller class compared to the other grades at the high school so we look at enrollment to determine what how many sections we need of a of a course that's one example another thing uh we look at is how many students are enrolled and you have chosen a certain course one of the things we do prioritize are those small classes if they're kind of at the end of a end of the I don't want to say end of the line but when we like I'm just going to take like if it's um a course like a a language course and we want to offer the highest level um of World Language that would be even if it's a small enroll that would be something we would prioritize but other classes that could potentially be offered every other year we might look at doing that we have done that in the past so those are the kinds of things the decisions that um our Administration makes when students enroll um but we would be looking at not being able to offer as many of those smaller classes which we have been able to do this year so some of it is really responding to enrollment uh it's responding to student choice and it will just mean that we're tightening up a little bit so I mean I guess I'll add a yes and to that obviously this is done every year that if there's courses that don't have enough students for them but this is this is maybe get maybe not offering some things that maybe we would have because we're the because of the the numbers being low and that's kind of the first items that then are not offered right that's that's definitely part of it and you know that'll make some other class sizes larger so that is part of the reality as well what what level of enrollment is low that would be the cut off that you came to the 144,000 on I can tell you that so um our high school principal used 20 as a place to start he said you know any class that's below 20 and then he looked at those um he looked at classes that maybe were you know there's only one section and it was below 20 and and I will say also that is based on this year's um so when that number when we asked him to do this he looked at what decisions would he make differently this year if he had needed to make these kinds of reductions based on the enrollment so this the reason this is an estimate is it's still going to be dependent a little bit on what we get for student enrollment as well so don't we have spring enrollment for high school existing high schoolers for next fall well um it just wrapped up not enrollment but class selection like so we would have a we would have a pretty good idea what this number would be soon fairly soon but not not right away so the other I mean other parts of this just the comp the reason we're asking for you to make these decisions tonight quite honestly is there's a lot of complexity in figuring out um what courses we can offer who's licensed to teach them um and there's just a lot of of things that are going to happen after this so even though you might want something a little more specific it'll take us a little bit down the road before we're able to share that with you specifically director Peterson point one isn't that specifically second and fifth grade it is second and fifth grade at this time that's what we've based on enrollment right now um we would be looking at um reducing um the the second and fifth one second grade section one fifth grade section however if we get more um enrollment then we would look at potentially adding that back but at this moment that was the those were the numbers we used but that keeps the class size the same as what we discussed earlier right and again if we get so just I mean to be clear about some things if we get more resident enrollment and that would push us above what we've agreed what I'm recommending for class size that would be an opportunity we have a number of um families on on waiting lists for open enrollment and open enrollment then allows us to keep our class sizes small so we would add a section back and then we would be able to add additional students which um helps us in lots of ways um in terms of Revenue and also just the number of students um who are committing to joining our school Community as well I mean let's these are people so um let's really be clear about that as well but what that does do for us it also helps us um if we get to a certain number that also helps us with our budget as well to be able to add that section back so my question about that is what is that number to we typically so we typically use 12 um the reason we use 12 is because whenever we um offer open enrollment not everyone accepts um the enrollment and so that might drop down a little bit so um 12 is the number we've typically used just want to be really clear in my brain on this they're open enrollments open and closed right I mean you've done the drawing build spots correct we have a um so the first window um has closed and we have offered um spots to people where we have um space at this time and then because second and fifth there were not enough open enrolled families in those grades okay yes so then we held so then we held up well it wasn't that we didn't have enough open en roll but yeah we didn't have the 12 to put us to that that point but that could change that could change I mean closed right I didn't mean closed yeah okay it could change I mean again we have resident enrollment we have residents move in yeah that bubs the class size up again then it's um then we would want to add it back and we would want to open open enrollment any other questions about that are there any questions about any of the other items on this um on the other Staffing is this this isn't where you're including substitute that's right that's next page okay so um yes so to your question is a purchase Services that's uh when it's Contracting with our substitute our company that provides substitutes um and when we're looking at this is this is kind of a hodg podge of things that come up with $91,000 so it's a large part of that is substitutes um we have some utility costs that we think we can push down a little bit uh commercial insurance and then uh travel for professional development so all of those things in total come up to 91,000 and then we have Supply reductions a much smaller number um we've reduced supplies before in the district uh now most of these are Regard in regard to facilities and ground supplies where we can push those costs down a little bit more and then the other reductions are in teaching and learning and uh curriculum resource resources and planning so that's 14,000 so then if there aren't any questions on that one I'm going to keep going so then we've got a summary so you can see the see those categories are just summarized here for you so you can see the total impact so increasing the revenues by a little over a half million expense adjustments of 683 th000 so that gets us to adjustments of 1.2 million and so that erases $ 1.2 million of that $2 million deficit and then the the plug here if you will is use of fund balance of 700 192,000 so that brings that to the projected fund balance percentage of 8.28% so that's uh again very specific right now um we're going to be coming back with updated numbers on a regular basis between now and June because there's a lot of things that will be happening at the legislature Etc and we'll want to make sure that we're you know we've shorted up these things as accur accurately as we possibly can so and then we have the timeline of that last page um I think uh board members asked last time what is. 28% how much oh right yeah so. 28% is about 150,000 so the that's so that if if we looking at that we're 100 at this point we're 150,000 above uh the minimum in the board policy okay so um this is your opportunity to of talk through these uh recommendations together as a board um and we are requesting that you take action um tonight to help us continue to move forward with what the administration needs to do but with uh all the work that needs that is ahead of us so I I do want to address the reduce the number of low participation programs and reduce Transportation costs I'm okay with reducing the transportation costs especially where we know they're not being used the buses aren't being used on return trips on the low participation programs I don't want that on the list and I don't know how other people feel I I thought it was interesting we have someone going to state for debate and that's a low participation program yep so I I would like to take that off okay the list I but do others want wa that's just my opinion I just I guess others need to weigh in yes director Peterson um Stacey were you gonna ask I wanted a little more clarification to our follow up on the classroom substitutes where do we cut where is that's in that purchase Services no I know okay but but how how how do you save money on classrooms well yeah so a little bit a little bit more background on it and I think I mentioned this before when I looked at our what we're going what we're being charged um over the past three years it's gone up about an average of roughly 10% a year so that's that's part of that number and I want to make sure that you know folks understand that um the other part is there there are some things where we find we there there are some things where we find we may not have to have substitutes as much as we've had in the past under learning services and that teaching and learning that type of thing so okay be bad also I mean I've advocated for this before too is that um I do I do believe that there are times when um particularly high school students um don't need a substitute all day long um when there are things that um teachers can prepare for them to do more independently doesn't mean that every time um someone's gone we we don't need a substitute but I think there are ways that we can be more efficient with that as well director Regan um so we've talked about this and I've said it multiple times but and I just want to say it again that you know I mean none of these are good things and that nobody wants any of these items on the list and the ones that I feel as though I'm I guess I don't know if supportive is the right word but I guess I can live with are the ones that impact the classrooms the least and um and I know that all of our supports and all the support staff and everybody is important as well but um some of the some of the things that that that I'm struggling with a little bit are um oh gosh you know I feel as though the the class siiz one obviously um at the elementary level if that helps us initially I guess I just that when those students enter our system then they're in our system all the way through hopefully till they graduate and just wanting to make sure that we have the capacity for them then all the way through 12th grade that um and then but then as I think about if we're really truly living out our strategic plan that talks about students pursuing their passion I struggle with like Stacy said removing something that has maybe low enrollment for an activity or a course so I guess I would I would love to see like how we can creatively if needed combine courses or have kids is there a way and maybe lure is an issue I'm not sure but instead of just cutting courses but if we have a threshold is there a way to combine any sort of offering or anything I don't know is there any I'm not sure I'm totally making sense here but I really struggle with like less opportunities for kids around activities and Athletics and in the classroom so I guess I'll start Point by point and just mention a couple of them I struggle with reducing the offerings for low enrollment because of the you know this Zephyr learning showc showcase what we saw today in the presentation what we see every month are all the students in interested in all the different things that they're interested in and so we have so many different um skills and things like that that students want to pursue their passions with but so what could we do to keep those things and again that number is really low but then like some of the things some of the services can can we maybe talk about some of those Services first could I could I make a recommendation so if there are any things on on the list that you can't live with I would recommend we start with those and then we can go back and look look at other things if like if there are things on here that you just feel like you need you need to take off the list even if we need to come back again and say we still think this is the reason we should do it um which may not be what or it would be that we'd come back with a new idea that could also be the case um but if you could start with what I'm hearing from two now is that reducing high school activities with low enrollment is just a non-starter for you is there anyone else that wants to weigh in on that um I understand the concern of eliminating low participation electives or activities but at some point I I mean I I think I need more to really fully understand what is low participation because if we're going to have an activity that has two or three kids in it I understand how important it might be but if it's going to C if it's not going to be cost effective that's the wrong term to use if it's we really need to look at that cost benefit um with respect to low low activity low participation I I I need more information before I'm comfortable just taking that off the list completely well I think if we say we're taking it off the list just meaning she will then bring back more information for us we just won't vote because we're voting tonight and I I don't feel comfortable voting on that one because to your point I think it it is a low saving so it might the cost benefit might come back and it's worth it to keep it because it doesn't cost that much okay thank you and then secondly if I could if if we can move on to one other that I I think the activity fees I'd like to visit revisit that um get more information on that one Dr Peterson I I can't vote on the 20% activity fee increase okay and that's what PA commented on director Woodson Barb could you clarify I know certain some of these things you said are are very iterative in nature right to to increase enrollment the sections there's things you want to start right now right I think of things like activity fees that I don't no one wants to do it but that is something that doesn't require months of planning right and so there's for the right phrases right there's some sort of like critical path on things that have to get started today can you help us understand on these list of things which are which the longest path towards um execution so we can know to Prior because we can no one wants to do activity fees but we could do that at a much later time because of the complexity of executing that can you help us understand from your perspective what is the best ability for you and the rest of the administration to start yeah so maybe Tim you can join in with us too um the revenue increases I think the Elementary class sizes pre pandemic levels um um the decreasing grades two and five um in reductions um high school as well um the tech integrationist because that also has some staffing implications um part-time cleaner has Staffing implications substitute usage I mean that's something we need to plan for um textbook and online subscriptions I mean that's I'm just looking to Jen for this one um I mean we could postpone that but I I don't know I feel like there's a solid plan and I think she's got a pretty solid plan in place for how that's going to look um facility and ground extra service contracts I would imagine that we'd want to start planning for that as well because that'll be some shifting of of UH responsibilities is that accurate um I don't know I just don't think there's I don't know the increase insurance I yeah that one is that's not that's that's a soft estimate we we have to go through some insurance proposals so I think I mean I think anything that relates to Staffing in particular are the things that um are difficult for us to we we need to start planning for that so that we can um figure out how to staff and and communicate because that will take quite some time so director Doan so I've got uh two questions I think one for Tim one for Barb Tim um just to help us level set for the audience here thank you guys for attending and for anybody that's watching online tonight what are the the main drivers again that are really driving this uh this deficit that we're trying to address right now well yeah there's there's a few different ones I mean one of the one of the big ones is again when we looked at the eser funding we had that and that dropped off so that was a million dollars of Revenue lost compared to last year so that's that's one of the big ones um you know we have infl and if we look at inflation that's another one you know we like everybody else we have we we have folks we employ we have uh contracted services and all of those things as I mentioned even you know we look at the substitute cost by the increases that we're getting from uh from the company that we do most of uh substituting through um all of those things are adding to that the other piece of it is that um you know when when we did some longer term some three-year projections we kept those we we kept the average daily membership which is just it's a headcount of students essentially not that simple but it is is kind of a headcount of students that's what we get most of our funding based on um and we kept that relatively flat uh the one thing that I really really do um think that Mame is tremendously fortunate to have is the demand uh for kids coming in and I and I'm talking you know that's open enrollment because we can manage a budget and you can see it here you know instead of having instead of having you know $2 million in cuts um we're using some fund balance but we're also offsetting a half million dollars by by having that open enrollment um and keeping and still having manageable class sizes um so there's you know it's I just talked to I talked to a superintendent um from another District last week and they have a completely opposite situation as Mia where uh they have they're they're losing students like crazy they don't have the demand for open enrollment it's it's very difficult so um I I just can't emphasize that enough is is managing it responsibly I think is really what I'm what I'm talking about yeah absolutely and then also like isn't part of it also some partially funded State mandates that are making it relatively challenging as well yes yep so we yeah so one one's unemployment and that was a that was a new law that was passed in the last bium um the the governor's proposal on the table has a way to fund that but it also includes um the Q comp going away eventually um so uh and and again that's the governor's proposal there's a lot of work to be done between between both houses until they get to a to a final uh point on that but that's yeah that's a sixf figure cost for us possibly in the future not funded at all so okay thank you I just wanted to kind of level set make sure that we're on the same page with what we're trying to solve for right and so um on one hand like constraint can be good because it causes us to kind of re-examine our expenditures and make sure that we're spending in the right SP and maybe eliminating expenses where we can um and I'd argue that historically as a district mamei has done a pretty amazing job doing uh significantly more with a lot less than other districts so like that's great I guess we have experience kind of going through these things um but on the other hand it's pretty awful to talk about you know increasing class sizes or reducing offerings and that sort of those sorts of things um and put the fund balance part of it into context I know you mentioned this to him but like one month of operating expenses when the majority of our expenses are people expenses salaries that kind of thing like that's that's real I guess is the best way to put it so long- winded comment and question to get to my question for you Barb is that when we go through these let's try to view it through a lens of what can be temporary as we look to address our op operational budget situation going forward here um and what's going to have the shortest impact that we can potentially rebound from Over the coming years here if that makes sense and I don't know if anything on that list Rises to the top in your opinion but if there is something like let's those are the types of things that I'd be more supportive of which types the types are shortterm Y and I and obviously the ones with the highest dollar amount probably yeah you know one of the hard things for me about that question is that um you know I know we're there have been a lot of questions about increasing Elementary class sizes and I I feel like I've tried to give as much context as possible what we're what we're recommending still keeps us lower than our neighbors and many other districts and so um I I don't know I know I know that maybe that was one that you were hoping I'd say hey we can go back but I I don't know that that would be responsible honestly when I think we still can um and and we might want to look at the class each of the grade levels and and talk through what my recommendation is if you want to look at those and that would be fine with me or get recommendations from um our elementary principles if any of these are off but um yeah I think I think it's I think what that recommendation is I think it's a reasonable one and I think we can look at it the next year too and not automatically go back to what we were before even if we want to prioritize like K1 or whatever um um I think there are a number of things like you've said that on this list that I think have allowed us to rethink how we're doing our work that um it is a reduction now but if we weren't in this situation we might have chosen to do it anyway just on its own um because we thought it was a better it was you know what we do so I'll just say I'm in teaching and learning I know Jen went through subscriptions that we could do differently um and that will be something that stays you know because it's it just makes sense so I don't know that I'm prepared to offer up that we would immediately go back to any um one thing I I you know we'll always look at enrollment we'll always look at course offerings and that's always part of what we're doing we're just doing a we're having to do it a little more this year um so I don't I'm sorry that might have been longwinded to say I can't answer it to be clear I'm not asking you to go through and identify this this and this I'm just saying like as you offer us guidance in the future like let's keep that that point of view in mind I think I finally have a question that actually will make sense probably um so sorry about the last one but I just have too many thoughts about all of this and so my question is I know some of the earlier presentations when we started talking about this we talked about maybe potentially using half of that money from the fund balance and half of it from these different cuts and so when you said Tim 0.28 is about $150,000 um essentially I mean if we were to go down to 8% fund balance we could maybe not increase those class sizes at the secondary things like that like something like that could be possible I know you're asking for what we can't live without and I'm telling you what else can we live with um and and are are there any other positions or things that have been become available since covid because a lot of school districts introduced new positions and different they were doing we're doing business differently since covid and schools everywhere having to make decisions based on now more pre-co numbers so I guess my question has two parts one one you know I guess I would like to explore more the possibility of do we are there reasons why we should not go to that fund balance minimum of 8% and two do we then also you know again that would maybe look differently as far as that I don't know what number that is the high school secondary and then two are there other positions or things we're not considering I know it was brought up about Transportation cost like we've talked about return trips for athletic events if if those buses are coming back empty that seems like that's maybe not a good use of our money um things like are there positions that have been added in the district that since Co feel like I've answered that question a few times so I'm not sure what you're looking for with the um positions that have been added like what what more detail do you want on that one um so Okay so we've talked about in here about a potentially a technology integrationist position being cut um are there any other positions like that that are newer positions since Co that or not so the tech integrationist proposal just to be clear is to reduce that um that one districtwide position and replace it with building level lead stiens um which will I mean it it's a different model and it is a cost savings but it's also a different model that involves building capacity as well um so are you asking about the we do have right now um a literacy coach that is working with our elementary um Elementary and I guess maybe some middle but no I think it's just Elementary on the implementation of the new um the letters training and the new cric resources that was put into place um at the start of it was during Co we had some more flexibility but we also knew Co funds were ending um and we didn't see the inflationary increases coming when we projected out that we would have that position for three years we've had it for two um we are recommending keeping it for a third but if you would like us to explore um that I I don't know if you're asking um for us to explore that position but that is a position that was that was added to support the the heavy lift of what we're we're doing in literacy um so that would be an example are there any others and there that pretty much it well I mentioned before we um added a par professional at um at uh the middle school we added that um during uh the pandemic because we had a number of of students who would be absent for long periods of time and needed some additional support to catch up um uh she also continues to support our students who are on 504s with accommodations and um so that is a position that we added uh during Co and we're recommending um keeping um let me see I have sh there was um I'll have to look we added a study skills course at the um high school and that was um again to support uh students with the transition um and oh and the other one that we still have that we had added was um we we added um additional literacy time at the middle school and we that was a sixth grade course in reading and a seventh grade course in Communications that course now is a you know it's it's a it's a class and it's part of it's a required class in sixth grade and seventh grade um but at the time when it was first uh developed there was additional time for her um to develop each of those courses so we did use even though she was teaching the class at the same time we offered her extra time to develop both of those courses so um she no longer has that time but she does have those courses so those are um those are ways that we used our pandemic funds that continue there are things that not that are not continuing but those are the ones that are those are the staff members that whose positions we added and continue what yeah so sort of what Ryan said is that as we look across these Cuts there's no there's never um there's never a right answer to Cuts there's only tradeoffs right and I think ibly appreciate you putting some additional context and some other options here so if you look at this sheet towards the bottom there is um additional positions so we think about making tradeoffs for keeping Staffing at the high school it falls down into the next category right and these are specific positions that you said or kind of the next two not your top recommendations but if we had to go below we had to keep some of the things on this list that we couldn't live with these are the next positions below it um yeah and I'd want to be really clear that's not how I see it so I offered to you the those were things that we discussed as you know you've asked me questions about um about these positions a couple of times so I was trying to share with you um the specific um positions that either one of you had asked me about or we had talked about it as administrative team so it's not necessarily that I would say go to the go to the next line there are also things that we've talked about that we can't really quantify for you at this time so for exampler example of reducing um moving to more electronic um using fewer copies moving more electronic I don't know how to quantify that um at this time one of the moving um our we have our Advanced academic teacher has created all sorts of opportunities for us um but we could always move those opportunities to community ed as an example of something um and so these are also things that we've talked about um there are a couple things that uh in teaching and learning that we um we want to really invest in our new teachers and so we didn't put this on the list but we could look at it and that would be reducing the number um the of days of teacher new teacher Workshop from um two days to one we could have mentors working with two mentees at the same time we hadn't put it out there because um our opinion is we need to invest in our new teachers and support them and so that wasn't one of the things we brought forward however ever they are ones that um I know that you wanted to see some of the other things that we talked about so that's why they're there so the the only reason I wanted to make sure I jumped in was just clarify it wasn't that next up is is this so it would be that we would have further conversation for you and if you have strong opinions about any of those and want to weigh in and ask us to come back with other recommendations you could do that I was trying to be helpful with that was there more I'm sorry I think I interrupted you so that was my next question is just walk us through the list of things okay okay so to add on to Drew's so when you come back with additional information there'll be a discussion of what trade-offs there may have to be and what we can okay and then secondly if I could um to maybe put a little bit more perspective on this can we can you put up the next slide and walk us through that next slide because people we're talking about temporary cuts and but it doesn't get any better going forward nothing changes so yeah g to go over that did you have one more question oh sorry before we go to that slide yeah I was just going to comment on the um it's on the list here I don't think it's under consideration for the literacy coach based on the direction of our strategic plan and the foundation of literacy um for me that's got to be off the table that's not even a consideration which one the reduced literacy coach it's a position I was asked about it because it is a position that um is working with teachers and so it wouldn't affect class size and so that's why um it's there um again it was put into place as a three-year threeyear position to help with this transition um I am going to advocate for it because um one of the things we are priding ourselves on is our implementation of um of the literacy the literacy work um it is has been a big part of our strategic plan and the work that um our our teachers have to go through to really Implement both the the professional learning around letters and the new curricular resource is is really quite something and we want to make sure they're supported so that it's done well so anyway um that said if that's something we need to talk about some more we can but um that's why it hasn't been on our list so we've included this in the in the agenda um this was a projection a three-year projection that finance committee reviewed on January 27th so almost a month ago uh things have changed a little bit since then but this is uh kind of uh telling t i I'll just run through the assumptions quickly so that next page Barb to click it oh I'm Sor I I didn't hear you okay so it's important to keep in mind so these are these projections are before taking any action on the items that you're considering tonight so they don't include that um so again in this projection the the the enrollments held relatively flat um Aid and Levy revenu is under existing law you know that may or may not change the basic Aid increase is 2.53% in this in this projection and that was uh that was an old project old estimate uh back last year in February now they're coming out with a new February estimate but they're not coming out with it until March so we'll come back when when they plug that in the CPI essentially what what it is is a CPI that's going to determine that uh that range so that range uh as it is currently in law is between 2 and 3% uh where the base basic Aid is increased between two and 3% um so not a lot of wiggle room there it isn't we aren't going to see a four or 5% unless they change the law which probably I would guess would not happen especially this this brium the referendum Revenue Step Up is included here and that's about a $940,000 increase so that's important to keep in mind even though we're having this increase we still have uh budget deficits going forward um this this assumes no unemployment Aid so that was what we were talking Ryan you brought had brought that up um so this assumes that that fund or that funding has run out um the the federal revenues are flat so um in this in this case and that's that's that's about where they should be we're not seeing you know we have very low federal revenue here because we just don't have um those uh accounts for for freed reduced lunch and then um again I want to emphasize when you look at these projections they don't assume any budget reductions so okay so we'll go to the next page so I'm going to I'm going to really focus in on that third line down where it says Revenue over or under expenditures and you can see a projection for 2425 we're at $2.3 million is where we have projected that that budget deficit to start occurring and then I'm going to go to the next year 25 26 and you can see that's it's about a $2.3 million deficit and then it goes up from there in 26 27 now these are rough estimates but you can see the pattern and and we talked you know we've talked about um an operating referendum and so you can kind of see why we would need to do that is that based with on two and two coming from the state that right right now um we projecting yeah that would be that would be the that would be the minimum of the two and the two for 25 26 and 26 27 oh it's not the 2.53 and two uh I'm I'm sorry 2526 is 253 and 2627 is back down to two but that could be higher if they passed more it right it could go yeah it could go and then um are those numbers based on if we were to not pass a referendum and it just renewed at the exact level that this year at yes so yeah great yeah great questions no referendum none of the budget reductions or Revenue enhancements we're talking about tonight are included in this this is just just kind of the the raw projection of not doing anything is what it really is what it really represents uh and then you can see um how that affects fund balance and that percent un assigned is that second section down at the bottom percent on assigned that goes from about a 10. six uh the next year goes up 5.6 and then we get actually get into a negative where we get Negative 1% so any questions on this okay so that was that's the projection so now if you want to go back to the other items anyone have questions on this okay you could do you want to take that down do you mind taking that down do you need to go back to the other PowerPoint or no I think we just need to make sure we know what we're voting on so far what I've heard is to remove um the activity registration fees um I've also heard to remove the reduce high school activities with low enrollment so then two things that you would like to take off and ask for us to come back with um more information so then let's say we remove those is I guess I what we need to hear from everyone is is there anything else you want to remove from the list for voting tonight it doesn't mean it'll be off the list forever so looking at the chart and then also what other things would you like us to look into um in terms of other areas that you feel like we needed to explore but then that would be um something else oh director Peterson a general question the way you start every year with we need these teachers for this class and this this class of kids has this many students at the bottom under transportation if there's a bus only picking up eight or nine kids on their route is is that the bus transportation's job they say all right Bob you're going to go get this route because we're combining consolidating do they do that yes yeah our our bus consultant uh and Company does that they do the routing um yeah and you know we've we've looked I've had some discussions with them on if we can cut additional routes and um right now there there really isn't if if nothing has changed if you know because we have two tiers and one of the issues is when we go far north we're picking up a lot fewer kids but putting on a lot more miles and there's just not enough time between uh the secondary start time time and the Elementary start time to reduce another another route at this point we've also just to add on to that we've also explored um increasing walk zones but we have a number of what's considered a hazardous Crossing um so it's like you know Wildwood there's no way to walk have to have kids walk to Wildwood um and call it a safe walking um area so so that's another issue that we have um where other districts might increase a walk Zone it's difficult for us to do that because of how our schools are situated I guess the question is is everyone good with voting on what's on the list with the or are there other things that you need to come off theist this also voting to approve bringing the fund balance down to 8.2 it is oh yes good point because that's on the table for it to be further I mean it could be we could always come back and say more is it accurate that as we as we solve the problem or as we solve part of the budget deficit with the fund balance because that is a one-time solve it increases the potential for what we have to cut next year because it's a onetime fill right but I think so in this case um if the if the reductions are permanent in nature then but if we you know if we try to bring back um things and dip into fund balance again I mean you can see in a projection um by not doing anything we're going to have a the fund balance will drop pretty quick over a couple years and so um yeah that's pretty tough in that in that situation where you're dropping with in fund balance and you're dipping into it it's pretty tough to be able to go back again now if we were in a budget situation where we had a surplus and we could build and then knock it down build knock it down but we're not in that situation so the the proje projections you showed did not take into account the final numbers of what will'll receive from the state or well I mean because we don't know and we also don't know it depends on if we pass a levy right so the L the levy is what would make up that difference that that would change yeah that would change the picture we're not counting on ever going into that fund balance in the next two years I mean that would be pretty devastating so we're trying to make sure we do it this year to keep us going but we're counting on passing that Levy so we will be in trouble if we don't pass the levy and we would have to make significant counts because I don't think I mean you'd run out of money if you didn't cut more so that said is everyone comfortable with the cut where it's at or I mean the usage of the fund balance where it's at along with these Cuts or do we need to discuss more options again are there other things you want us to bring back and look at I don't think there's any other good options otherwise it would have been surfaced by this point so it's a awful reality to be in but it's up to decision we have to make okay um is there anything else any other questions or comments and then we're going to vote two things we've removed are increasing activity registration fees about 56,000 and um reducing high school activities with low enrollment at about 45 100 those are the two so far that I'm taking up okay and we'll come back with other options for you okay so with that I need a motion for approval of the 2025 2026 budget reductions and adjustments move by director Donna second second by director witson any discussion we've just had it okay uh all those in favor say I I iOS motion carries thank you that was thank you Tim thank you Barb and thank you for everyone for your um thoughtful input and I know it's just extremely challenging times so um I appreciate everyone's um efforts in this um okay now we have Schoolboard committee reports amsd director Donna yeah so we met um last week or the week before February 7th February 7th um and we heard a presentation by the superintendent of schools in St Cloud uh related to artificial intelligence and my takeaway was uh well what they did is they've really gone they've been very proactive in their District know to AI um they've certainly been met with challenges on how you know to um Embrace Ai and how to manage it internally with with students and the staff um and um I think they they came away with some pretty interesting um observations related to um how it's used the drawbacks and the benefits um and I I'll I think I'll circulate that presentation because I don't have the details but I think suffice to say that obviously it's on top of us and it's and and it's here and it's something that we have to work with um or else it's just going to you know it'll it'll it'll take us over it'll take over in in could be harmful ways but there's could a lot of benefits with it as well I don't know if Barb if you have anything to add because no it was just it was a really um a really good presentation um and and the thing that I think is really the reason they're doing as well as they are is because they have teacher leaders who are really digging in on what it looks like um specific in their content area so it was the teachers in particular were pretty compelling what what they're working on so I'll circulate that presentation because there was some good things okay uh ma report Kelly um ma met on February 18th Last and uh as you can imagine this is really the um part of the work is around the gala so make sure you mark your calendars for April 11th um is the gala at the JX in Stillwater and the fund a need this year is um around new playground equipment at specifically o Anders and also updating some equipment at Wildwood making that um equipment not only more modern more age appropriate um and also more inclusive so the April 11th um Gala I'm hoping that I can count on seeing the board members there with me and uh should be a fun night uh a couple other things from May really quickly they are they just finished their hearts of gratitude um where K through five every staff member was given a heart of gratitude and that's the fifth year of doing that activity and then they're in scholarship season right now um so some of those scholarships will be closing here in the next month uh one of those I wanted to call out is a fine arts Camp the Carol Fargo scholarship for summer Finance Camp closes February 28th and um all of that can be found on the ma website and then lastly um I wanted to also call that Suzanne Anderson the executive director will be retiring in June and so they are going to be searching for a new executive director for Ma and that is all I have for the ma report msba report legislative update Jenny funding from the state I know a lot of this already talks about what Tim talked about but funding between two and 3% this year um a lot of questions about what president executive orders will change policy language and if it's a state or federal and then Tim already talked about Q comp being phased out and if you want that explained better than I can ask Barb and it it's in the governor's proposal yeah so it would still have to get through the legislature okay and we have we do we are a school that participates in that so we would be affected and our teachers who participate would be um okay that's it thank you uh 9:16 I forwarded the report so I think all of you have that so I will move on any other board reports yes I have one and that was from earlier this evening on the 24th of February the facilities um meeting happened and taking a look at um some of the summer projects and um let's see here I'll start with a couple of items and that would be um using some ltfm dollars for some um needs at at the High School stadium um some of our lighting and fixtures and things are not working wiring is bad there's all sorts of um issues that those were due to be replaced a long time ago there's also in conversation about improving some of the um hockey ranks at the district head Center hockey ranks and partnering with the Hockey Association to split the cost of that project and then I guess the only other major update is the dec I AQ um the indoor air quality project and um some of that work being done this summer uh starting June 6th and yeah that is all I have have anything else Barb that I missed from that Ryan okay any other board report yes direct Peter two quick ones if you don't mind if I go back to back the curriculum committee I set in for Kelly and it was about wit and wisdom and then does our strategic plan and our school mission align with our literary literacy vision for our school and I thought that was a great comparison um are we hitting the points in our strategic plan with our vision with wit and wisdom and letters and the react and they go together really wonderfully if you want to see it and then gifted and talented had a speaker instead of doing the regular parent discussion we had a guest speaker in on the brains of those kids and I do need someone to sit in for me on the gifted and talented meeting on March 20th so let me know any other reports okay thank you all if I could get a motion to aurn no move by director Regan second second by director Peterson all those in favor say I I I I opposed motion carries we are adjourned