City of Oakdale — Transcript

Friday, August 2, 2024Analysis complete

2 Topics in This Document

MWF Properties LLC PUD Amendment at 390 Helmo Avenue North

Oakdale Marketplace and Oakdale Station PUD Amendments

Full Extraction
Passed
2-3 Failed to Recommend Approval
3-1 Approved

Before us tonight is a request for a planned unit development Amendment at 390 helmo Avenue North located at the Northern end of the helmo station PUD area near the border of the oakrun shores neighborhood.

Max [3:24]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

In exchange for the flexibility and maximum Building height the developer has proposed having a much larger 40ft setback on the Northern end of the site in order to reduce the visual footprint of the site.

Max [4:36]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

you took all the wildlife out of there you know no more wild turkeys running through our property no deer you took them with 150 trees for your little bus that you you're putting a lot of eggs in one basket that this bus line is going to bring all this Economic Development to the city.

Jim Trudeau [9:59]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

I live in a FEMA flood plane I don't have a wand here or the map of the where we live but the first when you enter our four Street Lane North cuac the first three buildings are in a FEMA flood plane the marsh behind us is also part of that flood plane that drains underneath the new four Street Lane North into that pond which Jim just mentioned that's also in a female plan female flood plane.

Douglas Nelson [14:48]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

all of that is compensable damages from my perspective as a condemnation commissioner who worked for Washington County for 30 years.

Bob Beetle [18:20]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

I just think that we need to consider how much of an impact that 826 units is going to have and the developer today adding another story he's adding 25% to that building.

Bill Hummer [24:13]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

The first Speaker spoke about um noise level as much as I understand the noise level that's something we don't control it's something that um with construction is going to happen but there are the limits of between seven and whatever time we hope that they'd adhere to it but we do not control that.

Commissioner [27:20]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

ultimately The Proposal is within the permit Ed density that's already allowed within the helmo station PUD uh this request is solely for the change in Building height the density already Falls within the permitted density in the helmo station PUD.

Commissioner [31:22]Public Hearing: MWF Properties LLC, 390 Helmo Avenue North, Planned Unit Development Amendment

the overarching goal of the study is to determine appropriate land uses for both of PE pey areas there and the proposed amendments that we're bringing forward tonight are based on the study's findings the Consultants recommendations and guidance from the city council and overall we are proposing allowing additional land use options for this area.

Luke [37:03]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

so class one restaurants per R zoning code definitions they include number one traditional restaurants and number two what we call cafeteria.

Luke [49:55]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

I went on to Cornell Law school's website defining spot zoning spot zoning refers to when a piece of property or groups of property have special zoning laws applied to them that differ from the zoning laws surrounding them.

Dan Terwilliger [1:03:03]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

but as the applicant on the one corner that is being further handcuffed now and is being prohibited by what is being proposed on that corner is Road blocking a good development that is ready to go right now.

Dan Regan [1:10:03]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

I want restaurants I want commercial buildings in that space I don't want housing I the rest of my neighbors are the same way we want commercial buildings.

Brad medv [1:14:19]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

I don't want to go to Woodberry anymore to go take my wife on a date to a restaurant I would like to go a few blocks over do a nice restaurant or Brewery or some type of business even Healthcare.

Jim Trudeau [1:16:41]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

one party cannot unilaterally uh amend the Pud and the Pud agreement it's got to be done by mutual agreement of the parties and the planned unit development agreement is very clear at section 16.

Tim Keane [1:24:17]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

I am concerned about moving ahead with this because of the background I don't want to use legal issues um but question out there um unanswered I guess if we don't know that yet so for us to approve something without knowing what could happen doesn't seem make sense someone used the word reboot kind of like that idea myself reboot till we come back to better answers.

Commissioner [1:30:15]Public Hearing: Oakdale Marketplace & Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendments

designating land use options throughout the area and in uh including allowing residential uses on certain Lots.

Luke [40:01]Public Hearing: Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

the primary use will be multifam or industrial so I appreciate uh the Pud opening up the uses and I just uh suggest that it be as flexible as possible and let the future developer come in and tell us what really is going to work there instead of trying to force feed um the uses.

Alan Dale [1:18:53]Public Hearing: Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

so just by by narrowing down the Zoning for a restaurant is not necessarily going to make it happen there so um we appreciate you broadening the the Pud zoning as is being proposed by the city staff and if you were going to you know do something with the restaurant we'd ask that you maybe separate the the two considerations making multif family and allowed use on the 16 Acres we've seen a lot more interest in that uh world than we have anything else.

John Rous [1:20:36]Public Hearing: Oakdale Station Planned Unit Development Amendment