In ProgressCity Council Meeting - August 27, 2024

City Council Meeting - August 27, 2024

Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 at 1:10 PMActual: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 at 1:10 PM

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[0:00] e [0:44] amended version in front of us tonight can I get a motion to approve as amended so move there's a motion as there a second second motion a second any [0:50] comments all those in favor say I I opposed the agenda is adopted next up we [0:56] have approval of the minutes two sets in front of us first up Workshop me meting minutes of August 14th 2024 council [1:03] members any changes or Corrections I'll look for motion so moved there's a motion is there second second motion a [1:09] second final comments all those in favor say I I opposed and those minutes are [1:14] adopted next up we have regular meeting minutes from August 14th 2024 uh council members any changes or [1:21] Corrections I'll look for motion so moved there's a motion is there a second second motion a second final comments [1:28] all those in favor say I I opposed and the regular meeting minutes from August 14th are approved next up we [1:35] will move into public hearings we have one in front of us tonight the helmo station plan unit development [1:41] Amendment s plan or Luke mcclanan welcome would you like to walk us through this thank you may and Council [1:47] so yes for this uh planned unit development Amendment it is uh specific [1:52] to the property address 390 helmo Avenue so this is at the Southwest quadrant of helmo Avenue in Fourth Street uh it's [1:59] located on the Northern end of the helmo station PE area near the border of the [2:04] oakrun shores neighborhood so the zoning of this site is helmo station PUD currently the property is about 3 acres [2:11] it's a vacant site and it's designated for highdensity multif family development and it does have to uh [2:17] comply with specific performance criteria so the purpose of this specific [2:22] request is um brought forth by the applicant in order to uh amend the Pud [2:28] and allow the maximum height of multif family uh a multif family building to be [2:35] to to go from three stories to four stories and this request is tied to a a [2:40] planned 133 unit multif family apartment building on the property which will be considered at a late later time in terms [2:47] of the site plan review the more technical review as we're we're familiar with so here again just I want to [2:52] reiterate the developer is looking to receive approval for the the specific PUD Amendment again going from three [2:58] stories to four stories uh prior to pursuing the site plan approval um I do want to note that [3:05] allowing the additional story for the building would not increase the density of the site as the developer proposes [3:11] keeping the apartment building within the allowed density of the Helo station PUD and uh just a little bit of [3:17] background there the existing three-story limit for the building for this parcel that was originally intended to provide a bit of a visual buffer or a [3:26] smaller visual footprint rather as a transitional space between the existing oan Shores neighborhood and the helmo [3:…

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Oakdale approves four-story apartment building with height restrictions

Acorn Awards Presentation

Proclamations

Northdale Park Signage and Road Conditions

Companion Animal Care Development Agreement and Fire Suppression System

Threatened Litigation over Oakdale Marketplace PUD

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Votes (2)

Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

Adopted

Dissent: No explicit dissent was recorded, and the ordinance was adopted.

Moved by Council Member Herf [27:59] · Seconded by Council Member Willenbring [28:20]

The discussion centered on amending the PUD to allow a four-story multi-family building at 390 Helmo Avenue, increasing height from three stories. Concerns included the visual impact on the neighboring Oakrun Shores neighborhood, traffic, stormwater management, and construction noise. Staff recommended approval with six conditions, including a 40-foot setback, viewshed analysis, varying roof lines, additional landscaping, an updated traffic study, and park dedication. A key debate arose over defining 'story' versus a maximum height in feet, leading to the developer clarifying typical residential building heights. Residents expressed concerns about the proximity and visual impact of a four-story building and potential compensable damages due to construction and ongoing noise. The council ultimately added a 52-foot height cap to the amendment.

Development Agreement with Companion Animal Care

Approved

Dissent: Mayor Aabel and Council Member Morome voted 'no' due to concerns regarding the absence of a fire suppression system.

Moved by Council Member Herf [42:59] · Seconded by Council Member Willenbring [43:05]

This item, pulled from the consent agenda, focused on the development agreement for Companion Animal Care. The primary point of contention was the modification of the building's size to just under 2,000 square feet, which exempted it from requiring a fire suppression system under state building code. Council members debated the legality versus the 'spirit' of the code, with some expressing strong concerns about public safety for employees, animals, and emergency responders. The City Attorney confirmed legal compliance and the city's limited authority to mandate sprinklers below the threshold. Despite strong dissent from some council members, the agreement was approved.

Notable Quotes (10)

allowing the additional story for the building would not increase the density of the site as the developer proposes keeping the apartment building within the allowed density of the Helo station PUD

Luke McClanahan [3:05]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

Luke does the Pud Define or quantify stories so I'm a bit surprised that we are in the Pud we're saying four stories instead of putting a maximum um height on the overall building because I guess you know stories could be could change you know 12T ceilings versus 20 foot ceilings you know it seems like the Pud is saying regardless of how tall those stories are four is the max well has a big impact on sight lines and all that so is there something in the Pud that Caps or quantifies or limits stories by height

Mayor Aabel [6:31]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

what's hard for the co you know what's hard for all of us to know when that decision is initially made is the economic reality of what what a developer is going to need to do to make any project economically feasible

Council Member Morome [11:00]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

with four stories that's about 40t and then you add some trust space and um the roof line it ends up being about 45 46 feet or um plus or minus for a four-story flat roof building

Matt Yerger [15:07]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

We have serious concerns about the apartment complex being set back uh only set back a minimum of 40 ft as stated in condition number one by our calculations the northermost apartment building would be only 135 ft from the southernmost twin Home Building in our culdesac as our Twin Homes are only one story in height with a low pitch roof line a rectangular four-story uh apartment complex will dwarf our properties

Douglas G. Nelson [19:35]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

there's been some current sales in that uh little cues act area that establishes value prior to and in one case right in the beginning of uh the work projects that's gone out there what happens after this project is done is it will be easily established what the value is before because there's been sales and after if there is a difference there between before value if it goes down you will be subject to compensating that loss

Bob Beetle [23:08]
Helmo Station Planned Unit Development Amendment

I don't believe um any commercial buildings off the top of my head that have been built um without a fire suppression system in them since we um since city council adopted 1306 which is the fire sprinkler requirements that um we did 15 years ago

Chief W. [43:47]
Development Agreement with Companion Animal Care

the application that you acted on uh not sure it was the last meeting of the one before but for the site plan that building was below 2,000 square ft and did therefore did not require sprinkling system the sprinkling system is part of the building code uh and state law preempts these when regulation building code you can't change those regulations

City Attorney [45:05]
Development Agreement with Companion Animal Care

a public safety mechanism that's all that that is all that is at um at stake here is it a design a design plan was changed for the sole purpose of avoiding a safety mechanism that's it so I as you know I question whether this city should still provide the same flexibility with that in mind

Mayor Aabel [50:13]
Development Agreement with Companion Animal Care

people smarter than you determine that a 2,000 sare ft that's what he I'm just reiterating what you said here you know that that 2,000 square feet is it doesn't need it and so if this client if this uh business owner wants to design something that is just under that you know I I would have to side with council member wenber and and saying hey you know I would make that same decision too if there was a financial impact there

Council Member Willenbring [52:03]
Development Agreement with Companion Animal Care

Ordinances & Resolutions (5)

Ordinance number 929Ordinance

Amending the Helmo Station PUD to raise maximum building height.

Ordinance number 839Ordinance

Original Helmo Station PUD language, subject to amendment.

City's adopted fee scheduleOther

Reference for park dedication requirements.

Minnesota State Statute section 13 d. 05 sub subdivision 3BOther

Statute cited for closing a meeting to discuss attorney-client privilege.

Goldline brtPlan

Mentioned in the context of projects impacting flood risk and nearby residences.