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Special School Board Meeting: July 20, 2026
North St. Paul-Maplewood-Oakdale School DistrictTuesday, July 21, 2026
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Okay, you're good to go. All right, thanks for joining us today. I'm calling to order the July 20th uh 2026 school board ISD ISD62 school board special meeting. Um could I get a motion and a I [clears throat] don't I motion, right? A motion and a second. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right. Moved by Caleb, seconded by Was that you, Michelle. >> Nancy, Katie, >> that was me. It was Katie. >> Okay. [laughter] All in favor say I. >> I. Oh, it's got to be a little call. >> Hi. >> So, we actually don't need one to call the meeting to order. We need one to approve the agenda. >> Oh, sorry. >> Got it. [laughter] >> Sorry, it's been a while. >> Y >> All right. So, um the consent agenda. Um this is um so first up we're going to do the consent agenda. This consists of routine items that are acted on in a single consolidated motion without board discussion. Um board members have the option of pulling items off the consent agenda if they wish to discuss them or consider them individually. Um anybody um want to discuss pull anything out? Okay. Um, so I recommend that the consent agenda items listed um in the board be approved as presented. Could I get a motion and a second? >> So moved. >> So [clears throat] moved for say a second. >> Did you hear that? So it was moved by Yenner and seconded by Swore. >> Okay. I couldn't tell. Uh moved by Yenner, seconded by Swore. All in favor? Um, this will be a roll call. May >> Rosemark, >> you can you have to unmute. Yeah. >> Hi, >> Anderson. >> Hi, >> Yenner. >> Hi, >> Livingston. I Oh, Yang. Hi. >> All right. Um, nobody um said nay, so that um passes. Thank you. Um, so we have now the construction change orders. Um, and so we have director Gaia here to talk to us about this. >> Good afternoon everyone. Um, in front of you today are construction change orders uh from Rashan Corporation. So, as you know, um, change orders occur during construction due to code of changes, unforeseen circumstances, district requested changes, and items or work not originally in the bid documents. So, construction change orders that are over $175,000 will come to the board as an action item as this one. So, this one in front of you is to amend the contract with Roshan Corporation, who is the general contra contractor for the North High School Stadium Improvements Project. The work includes the necessary con concession stand improvements including foundation repair, co-related roofing and coil coiling door replacement, electrical provisions, interior finish repairs, and the installation of an exterior drinking fountain. A cost of $193,68510 was submitted by Roshan Corporation for the work and the architects of record deemed the pricing to be fair and reasonable. As part of all district construction projects, a project contingency is maintained to cover the cost of these change orders. I recommend that the Roshan CH corporation change order number two for North High School Stadium Improvements Project be approved. Thank you, Director Gat. Um, so be it resolved that the school board of Independent [clears throat] School District number 622 approve change order number 02 in the amount of $193,68510 amending Roshan Incorporation's total contract for the North High School Stadium Improvement Projects to 2,53623051. Um any um discussion sort or I'm maybe going to go ahead and call the um >> or had her hand up too. I don't know if you had a question or >> Katie had can we do the discussion um after we call it >> someone make a motion? >> Yeah. Can I get a motion? >> Moved by >> seconded vice. >> Okay. Any discussion? I just uh Sarah, could you just um tell us which of the circumstances for the change order this one falls under? Was this like unforeseen circumstances? Did we just forget to include this in the original bid package? >> Yeah, this one was actually a combination of a few things. One was um some issues that we couldn't catch until the old bleachers were down, foundation repairs. The second was really the code related work. So when the code marshall comes through and looks at the drawings and and wants some additional things um that included the the roofing, fireproofing and the coiling doors. So it's really a combination of those two categories. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So um all in favor um and then [clears throat] May is gonna do the roll call. >> Rosemark >> I. Anderson. >> Hi >> Yenner. >> Hi >> Livingston. >> Hi >> Swear. >> Hi. >> Don't forget me may >> yay. [laughter] >> I see as that there's no nays um that um order is approved. Thank you. Um and so next on to the next agenda item is the easement agreements. Um this is also you director GA. >> Yep. So as discussed in a recent board study session, the district was approached by Northern State's power company Excel for a 40 foot by 60 ft real property easement to install gas pipelines and metering station at the southwest corner of Tartan High School site as part of its ongoing pipeline work in Oakdale. The area of the easement is along Glen Brook Avenue North on the southwestern portion of the former Oakdale Elementary School site that is now an undeveloped grass field. District administration has reviewed the location and believes it will not impede future site development. Furthermore, NSP will be required to screen the meter metering station as part of the agreement. District Legal Council has reviewed and approved the easement agreement with NSP in addition to the offer letter of $3,000 in exchange for the easement and that price was deemed of fair value by independent appraisal. I recommend that the easement documents be approved and executed as stated. >> Okay. So, I'm going to read the resolution um and then give y'all a chance to ask any questions you may have. uh be resolved that the school board of independent school [clears throat] district number 622 approve the Northern State Power Company offer letter and agreement for the real property easement located on the southwest corner of Tyran High School site and thus hereby directs the board chair and board clerk to execute easement documents. Um could I get a motion and a second? >> Moved by swore. >> Second move by swore. Second by um Anderson. Any um discussion? [clears throat] Dr. Jenner? >> Yeah, I had a question, Sarah. Um so when I was reading this, it looks like it's $3,000 to indefinitely provide them with this space that's 60 by 20. And I did note that it says that it's a fair appraisal. is fair according to independent appraisals. Um, but I also noticed that, you know, I was kind of thinking, well, $3,000 seems pretty cheap. I mean, to indefinitely get any property. And then I didn't really like this comment about if there's any paperwork that needed that the district will pay for that. And I kind of wondered, well, how much has the district already spent on this what seems like a pretty good deal for Excel Energy? And you know, we had lawyers review it. We had independent whoever. So, how much are we spending to allow Excel Energy, who by the way had profits over $2 billion last year to take this piece of property from the district. Yeah, we obviously had um cost for legal counsel to review the contract. And I can get that. I know it's probably around $800 thus far between multiple reviews. And then um as far as the independent um appraiser um which was the appraisal by Patkin Messner, I'd have to look up that amount. I believe that one was around $1,000 as well. >> [clears throat] >> So, we've spent at this point, not including your labor, whatever, $1,800 for this transaction. I'm just not sure what the benefit to the district is. Sarah, do you want to did do you want to comment on that, Sarah? Is this something that we felt we kind of had to agree to? Is it something that's optional? >> That's a really good question. Um, I don't know if we felt we had to agree to it. We, you know, they're putting the pipelines in all over Oakdale. It seemed to be a reasonable solution. What we could do is counter the offer. If you, if the district believes that they want to negotiate more money for that easement, that's fine. Otherwise, um, we can turn it down alto together and then they're on their own to find a different location. I don't actually mind them having it. I just seem like that seems like an awfully good deal, especially given that we're responsible for paperwork and legal fees and all of these other things. Like that just doesn't feel like a benefit in any way to the district. It seems like a real sweetheart deal to Acceler. >> Yeah. And I think what they mean by paperwork is really just what we've spent on um the appraisal and our legal fees. Maybe they could at least pay for that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> I think that makes sense. Michelle, thanks for bringing that up. >> Can I suggest that we just counter with $5,000? >> That sounds fair to me. Sarah, if that um if the board wants to amend this motion and say that this is the amount that they would approve for, we would have to amend the motion's already on the table and this is the discussion. You'd have to go back and amend that. If that's the case, I'm just thinking about um if you were to go back, the next public the next business meeting of the board isn't going to be until later in August. However, you know, we do have a study session. If you had to add a special thing to that, you could. Um, but perhaps we could amend the motion to state that this will go through with a payment of $5,000 rather than the original $3,000. And and then assuming that goes through, then that already this this would be the board would authorize and approve that payment of $5,000. If and then if they don't agree with it, then we'd have to come back to the table again at the August meeting. But if they did agree to it, then that should pass with our own vote right now. Don't you think? >> I would think that makes sense to me. >> You know, [clears throat] the one kind of reservation I have is, okay, the agreement literally says that we are responsible for the, you know, paperwork, the legal fees, the so on. And so if we counter, then are we just going to spend a lot of money countering? And then because now we'll have more legal fees and more time spent by Sarah and other people. So I don't know it just doesn't Yeah. >> If we did counter, would there be additional costs to doing so or no? It would be legal drafting a counter offer for us, which I would think. Yeah. Is there another way you'd like to uh rephrase that and amend that motion that's on the table, Michelle? >> Um, no. I I kind of think that maybe you guys can figure it out, [laughter] but it just seems to me that we shouldn't be giving them it for free. I I I I don't have a problem. I think we can figure it out. I think that the issue is just that whatever the board's going to vote on, we have to do today. Otherwise, they're without a vote until the next business meeting later in August. And so I was hoping we could come to some language agreement here today so that you guys could at least vote on but unless you want to just completely deny the request until future meetings and then have us discuss it with them and do that back and forth. >> Is there urgency right now from Excel? >> There is. they do want to install in August, but so that's a question for you as board members. If someone wants to make an amendment to that motion that's on the table, you can vote down the motion that's currently on the table. Um, you could make an a propose an amendment to that motion that's on the table and then vote on that. Um, and we're open to whatever options we want to look at here. I just think that just keeping in mind that, you know, we we may end up trying to pull a short little special session with our study session in August, which isn't a problem either. >> You know, out of curiosity, who is the independent appraisal that said this is fair? >> Patchkin Messner. It's an independent appraisal company. >> Okay. So, it's another company that you pay as well. >> Mhm. >> That was part of that. That was the that was the other fee that we had to pay. 800. >> Yep. >> Yeah. I I appreciate the discussion. I also thought that 3,000 was a little light, but um our total profit's going to be something like $1,000. And if we what we're talking about, our our total profit would be in the range of, you know, $2 to $5,000. I'm just thinking that in the grand scheme of our total budget, given the urgency, given that we've already um determined that this is not a piece of property that's going to be useful necessarily for for Tartan and the school, um I think I'd be more inclined just to accept it. And um but I do appreciate the discussion. >> I I would agree too. Um, I think um the I mean the 3,000 is fair and [clears throat] if y'all are fine with moving forward I I would be in favor of moving forward with the three. So, but you guys vote tell me tell me what it is you guys wanted to do. You know, one of the things to remember is we're not in the profit making business. [laughter] So uh so just kind of keep that in mind too is um it's not it's not one of our our priorities and so um yeah we should decide how we want to move forward with this. >> Okay K just to be fair though I wasn't suggesting we should make a profit. I was just suggesting that we shouldn't be giving our property away to Excel Energy. >> Yeah. So >> noted. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I I definitely resonate with what Michelle is saying. Um, you know, Excel Energyy's making a lot of profit themselves. Um, $3,000 indefinitely for a piece of land is a really great deal. I also acknowledge though that, you know, our independent uh firm that looked at the the deal said it's a fair market value. So, um, you know, I appreciate that, too. Um, so I'm kind of I'm good with with either option, whether it's a $5,000 counter or um just moving it through as is as well. So >> So can we do a is it okay to do a vote on the counter or move forward? >> I think someone has to propose a counter if you're going to do so. Otherwise, you've already got [clears throat] a motion and a second on the table. So, you're going to need your discussion. If someone wants to promote propose an amendment to that, then someone has to do that. Otherwise, you're voting on what's on the table. And again, doesn't matter to me how you want to do it. It's just >> point of order. We just have to make sure that we recognize there's a motion and a second on the floor right now. You just have to make an amendment to that if we're not going to if we're if someone proposes to do so. And then you have to vote on that amendment before you do vote on the whole package. I guess I would make an amendment to um pass it for $3,000 and the cost of the transaction which was apparently $800 $1,800. >> I would second that. Now I think you have to all vote on whether you accept the amendment. >> Okay. >> And that's a roll call vote too. >> Can we do the roll call? >> Yeah. >> So the roll call vote to accept um Yenner's amendment. Um, Rosemark. >> Hi >> Anderson. >> Hi >> Yenner. >> Hi >> Livingston. >> I >> swore. >> Nay. >> Yang. >> Nay. >> Okay. So that the amendment passes and then >> now you're voting on the new amended language. Oh, no. No. That was the amendment. >> That was the amendment. Yeah. >> Vote on the amendment. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I thought it was a vote whether to accept the amendment as amended language. >> Yeah. So, we we technically voted to adopt the amendment. Now, the original motion with the amendment is before us. We have to vote again. >> Yes. That was just voting whether you're accepting Michelle's friendly amendment there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Rosemark. Hi >> Anderson. >> Hi >> Yenner. >> Hi >> Livingston. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi >> Yang. >> Hi. >> Okay. So that passes. >> Yep. >> Yep. Thank you all. >> All right. Um, so now we just got a motion to adjourn. Um, could I get a motion and a second to adjurnn? >> Moved by swore. >> Second. >> Moved by swore, second by Anderson. Um, all in favor? Roll >> call. Roll call. Oh. >> Oh, no. >> Yeah, this is roll call. Yeah. Rosemary. Hi. >> Anderson. >> I. Yander. Hi >> Livingston. >> Hi. >> Sorry Livingston. Denzy. >> Hi. >> Okay. Swore. >> I Yang. >> I meeting is adjourned. >> Thank you everyone. Appreciate you. >> Thank you. Appreciate it.