[Music] I'd like to call the meeting of the park and ricks commission to order and in absence of our chair I'll be running the meeting tonight. Jolene, could you please make note of the participants? I will for the roll call and if everyone else could join for the pledge of allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. If everyone's had a chance to look at the agenda, could I have a motion to approve the agenda? Second. All in favor? I. All opposed. And now we're down to the open forum. We have a couple people here, but Jolene, have anyone asked to speak tonight? I don't believe so. I think we've got our leaison. Did you want to speak? I did actually. Oh, we can do. Okay, I think that's fine. And then, um, this gentleman is here to speak on an agenda item and provide the commission with some information. So, he will come up when Dave touches on that item. Okay. Then we'll move to the approve the meeting minutes that were sent out if everyone had a chance to read them. They were quite lengthy. Um I'm looking for a motion to approve the minutes. So move. I'll second. Is there a second? Okay. All in favor say I. I. I. And all opposed. Next on the agenda we have Dave Adams who will let us know about Let's Go Fishing Recreation Opportunity Discussion. Good evening everyone. Uh Kyle kind of put all the stuff together, so I'm going to do my best to to work through this for Kyle, at least on this one. Uh I'm sure you read the staff report. Um big part of the master planner for for parks and wreck was to get more community involvement or activities and stuff especially around the lake. Um Mark who's in attendance night reached out to Kyle a little while back and and they have been talking back and forth of um starting this partnership opportunity uh called Let's Go Fishing. Um I can go through a lot of this but I think the best person to to talk about this will be Mark. He you know he he runs this program. We have a video that you guys can watch. Um and I don't need to read back probably what you already read. So, uh, unless you have any specific questions for me, I I kind of like to hand it over to Mark and he can kind of go from there and play us a video and and you guys can ask him some questions. Great. That's okay with anyone. We'll welcome Mark. My name is Mark Rangish. I work with Let's Go Fishing. So, we have 15 chapters in Minnesota and Wisconsin. And um, Kyle had contacted us about becoming part of a strategic plan. Perfect timing. We're looking to expand, particularly in the Twin Cities area. Last year, we took out 15,000 people fishing and boating for free that would not have any opportunity. So, these are seniors, handicapped, veterans, disabled on handicapped accessible pontoons, youth groups, fishing groups. There's um programs that we have that we do with like the fifth grade at one particular chapter. The whole fifth grade goes out fishing for the day. They rotate through for couple hour an hour or two hours of fishing, picnicking, and the DNR joins for some of them. Other ones are sponsored by the fire department or the police department or both in the separately. in the case of Eden Prairie and kids go out and they're given fishing rods and all that good stuff. But in the particularly in the Twin Cities area, there's almost 5,000 people that the Eden Prairie chapter takes out on their three boats. It's on a small lake. We want to grow that. We have a chapter on St. Croy um that's pretty well maxed out. There's one north of here. We call it east central has a boat on brush lake and one on chas. So you know based on the group we open the the calendar like this month the customers organizations groups sign up call most of them locally are booked in two days for the season. So there's a lot of demand opportunity. The funding comes from local businesses. There's a different foundations. We could talk about that, but um we have a video we could show you that it's three minutes. It shows an example of a trip that goes out. The uh one of the interesting things about this video was someone contact us once and said, "Hey, can I take some pictures of you guys going on a trip with my drone and I'll give them to you?" So this guy mails us on a zip drive, but it's a great example of the community involved. The there's about a thousand volunteers, high retention rate. For example, the East Central chapter 113 volunteers. The biggest issue we have is most of them start doing this when they retire. So they But we have there's a variety of things we've done to extend that and keep that going. They people love it. The volunteers love it. They think it's one of the most engaging things they did in their career. And these are people that everything from former legislators, vice presidents of companies to anyone else you would ever meet. It's a cross-section of So let me just play this. Let's Go Fishing is a nonprofit 501c3 corporation with over 20 chapters in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Our East Central Minnesota chapter, formerly the North Branch Chapter, was established in 2004 by a group of especially dedicated volunteers. We have been taking seniors, veterans, youth, and disabled individuals out on our handicapped accessible pontoon for more than 14 years. Our newest pontoon is docked at Flickerbirds Resort on East Rush Lake in Rush City, Minnesota. Our Rush Lake Boat has scheduled outings Monday through Thursday from 9 to 11:00 a.m. 11:30 to 1:30 p.m. with two additional trips on Wednesdays from 2 to 4:00 p.m. and 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. We depart from a handicapped accessible dock thanks to Flickerbirds on a pontoon that can accommodate up to eight guests, two of which can be in wheelchairs. Many of our guests are residents of nursing homes, assisted living residents, group homes, and individuals, both old and young, from the North Branch, Cambridge, Forest Lake, Chicago City, Rush City, Pine City, and areas beyond. Also, due to the generous grants and donations of our sponsors, since 2016, we've been able to provide a second boat. This boat, now our original pontoon, serves the Chicago Lakes area and departs from Chicago Lake. This boat can also accommodate eight guests, two of which can be in wheelchairs. And like our Rush Lake boat, this boat is also available for outings Monday through Thursday with scheduled outings from 9 to 11:00 a.m. and 11:30 to 1:30 p.m. If you would like to join us on an outing, you may either sign up as an individual or as a group. Whether you are interested in fishing or just want to spend a couple hours on the lake, we would love to have you join us. I'm just going to answer this about three4 time just so you can get a flavor. Uh so the what we do is all online in terms of volunteers can volunteer online. This boat schedules and event schedules that we have are online. customers, clients, organizations sign up for the time slots they want, volunteers volunteer for the time slots they want. It's quite flexible. It's a the kind of being engaged with your strategy and bringing a chapter here as part of this would just be a great it would be a great fit for us. That's a great introduction to the um you know the local in terms of being here. Kyle and I talked about lots of ideas on how we could approach it, but I just wanted to give you I'm on four different boards and I want to be respectful of your time, but u I could go on and on and I I just wanted to give you a flavor say thanks for the opportunity. It's really a good fit and any questions that you guys have now or anytime feel free to reach out. So I had a question on the volunteers about how many volunteers does it take to if you were to you know bring in a boat what kind of volunteer needs to do that for the summer for those two rides. Yeah. the um ideally if I think about it in terms of ideally the start of the chapter, a couple people from the community that are really engaged and then advertising with the the local papers for volunteers. We want to start up a chapter and uh it would not be too difficult to find 20 chapters or 20 people pretty quickly and get something rolling. So that's and it's a lot of it is um you know word of mouth so the customer clients and the volunteers generate more of all of the same. So a relatively small number can start And these bullets are now 28 ft long. They're all bigger. We have relationships with TNC relationship with Mercury. So the equipment is relatively refurbished. Mark, I think you were maybe you or someone from your organization gave a presentation to the Rotary here in Forest Lake and it it was wellreceived and again just that didn't go off yet, but thanks to Kyle, I think my just myself comment would be it sounds like an amazing thing to help our community use our lakes for and especially the people that you service. But anyone else have any questions? that pontoon boat. I'm looking in here in your in the analysis that the city would be responsible for purchasing a boat for it. Well, the chapter the the chapter is okay. And is it parked on a dock always in Lake? Ideally, you know, that's a great historic history of what happened on location, but yeah, ideally location on the lake with our boat for example, our boat club. had a doc or a local owner. So that's what we've done most of the other chapters. It's located at like that one. One's located at Flicker on Rush. Other one's located on someone's house. Volunteers pick it up, go to the public wash and meet the groups there. So, and that's another thing that makes it a lot easier to think that you're going to a 35 foot long thing every day and launch it volunteers with more than a half ton truck to bring it in and out but we've extended it so far as most of a lot of the chapters there are electric much easier than what existed six years Dave, we have Shields Lake and they have a fishing pier there. Um, in our discussion, maybe we could look at that as a possibility. You can't put a motorized boat out there. Oh, that's right. But they do catch a lot of sunnies. A lot of paddling. We forgot about that. But there's a lot of opportunities. Like Kyle had suggested one of the first things you said, I'll go talk to your boat, which I I know a few other places that might be on the lake, but that that's a it's just a great example of a just in one conversation ideas were flowing, they're there and it's an opportunity. So, do you have a u plan for like a introduction to community or a media? No, we don't. so much at the meeting. But we do have from a infrastructure perspective of how to run a chapter, how to start it up, a budget plan. They're all like for launching highend, you know, large scale things and it does not have to be anything to start. But if you're if you're starting a year ahead of time, that's all. So there's a lot of the point is there's a lot of alternatives. Yeah, it certainly is interesting. What does anyone think about further discussion on it that we could have as far as as you're saying the budget and the timing and all that? We'd have to have all of that information. Yeah. But are you interested in pursuing it? I'm all for it. I think it it's a good fit for the development of Forest Lake in the I when I when Kyle contacted me, we talked about it, I thought I don't think we would ever have an opportunity that fits so well. Yeah. So, and he has all that stuff in terms of so we can we can continue to work that out and figure it out some details. And we've got a variety of different people. I I used to run the East Central chapter. So that was Rick, the president of the East Central chapter that came about. Okay. Because we that chapter has people that live here that would be happy to not have to go up there. And some of the our opportunity is goal is to just a lot of Well, from the looks of it, you have a lot of head shaking. Yes. Here. That it sounds great. And we do have a good Samaritan group in Forest Lake that likes to volunteer for things like this. And so I I don't know exactly the next move how we put it together to have you back or talk to the city council. No. So the our recommendation that is just to give us staff direction to continue this on work on a better implementation plan to try to find sources of funding for that you know for a boat for fishing tackle for fuel for all that stuff to try to line up volunteers to kind of take that next step. We just don't want to spend a bunch of time doing this and all of a sudden somebody wants to donate a boat but then the commission doesn't want to have anything to do with this. So I think we're just making sure everybody the group as a whole or majority is wants wants us to continue to pursue this before just instead of wasting time. That's why I like it too. I mean it's like every conversation has been about the right thing, the right questions and I'm amazed by the ideas that came out generated. It looks like we'll move it on and we certainly appreciate you coming out and giving the information. It's amazing the volunteers that you've got together and what they'll do for others. You know the only other thing I think if we go forward if you think about who's some right people in the community can engage you know for sure the alliance the BFW American all those types of groups but you know any other food for thought an introduction there accelerate that help the difference quick success and you do a good job. Thank you for coming. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. So, we're on number. Do we need to make a motion? No, just just direction for staff to continue on which I saw your heads nodding. So, that is all all we needed. And and as as I said, you you've got head shaking from Rotary, too. Yeah, Rotary is very impressed with it. I think it's really a good we can make a joint thing, good move to step forward with the implementation. our our next there's kind of a lot to unpack here as you can kind of see there's getting interest in trying to find donors and working through a location that so in the meantime you know Kyle and I'm sure we'll work with Mark as well too to kind of with his assistance and at a later date in the upcoming commission meeting we should have a better plan or a better you know layout of what we've kind of worked on well thank you I now have to give up my hammer because our chair is here and we'll be on number eight. Thank you. All the power has been took away. Number eight. I'm sure you're very good with that hammer. I like the hammer. Sorry I was late, everybody. Um, all right. Number eight, lakeside landscaping recommendation, Dave. Oh, yeah. Yep. So, um, you read through this, you the map is probably a better place to start. So, public works has kind of been working through the lakeside parking lot of used to be all the dead trees and and just a lot of bad landscaping. So, uh last year we we did um those areas circling purple, we put in eight coffee trees, redid the fabric, redid the mulch, and then this year we're adding turf to that blue area. Um more mulch, mulch trees. Um the green area is next year kind of more by the boat landing and then um 27 going to the east roundabout or the east Broadway roundabout and along that fence line. So we kind of have everything lined up for this year except for that one section. Um right now there's kind of like low grow sumac in that area. It looks kind of ratty. Regardless, something has to be done. um kind of laid out three options. We could just replace the landscaping how it is, put it put it back in. Um the other one was to to turn it to sod so we would mow it so at least it wouldn't go over the sidewalks and and look a little cleaner. And then um that third option would be to just eliminate the landscaping itself and and add two parking lots u or two parking spots. U one reason being it would kind of uniform the parking lot because the lower one looks doesn't have that landscaping in it. So, it would look the same and two spots or two spots right down there. It's two spots doesn't seem like a lot, but you're you're adding two more parking locations for the landscaping that really doesn't jump out jump out at you anyway. So really what we're looking staff was leaning towards doing those parking parking lots and we're just being that it's in the municipal lot with Lakeside Park. We're just kind of hoping that we can get a recommendation to go with our gut and and continue doing that. But also looking for other opinions or if the the commission would like to see something else happen there. Comments, questions? I'm in support of parking spots. Definitely. Yeah. So, you're just that's the minimum that you're looking at is making parking spots out of those. Just pull that saw out and Yeah. We'd remove the landscaping and the curb ribbon and then just reour the curb ribbon up against the sidewalks and then they blacked out that all be done by public works. We wouldn't hire anybody else. So, it would be the internal work. Karen, what what happened to the pavers? What was that? They been removed. I honestly have not been down there, but I know we talked They were removed. Oh, down by the where the ice he was, right? Yep. They were all The city council voted to get rid of all the pavers and put black top in there as replacement. The master plan for the park redevelopment does not have that PA trail there. Anyway, my question is, did they save the pavers? 275 of them, the ones that were personalized. So we have them on a pallet and then once we get seasonal staff and it quits raining and we can catch up on mowing, we'll find spots where the pavers still exist of empty ones and put them back in. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? I like the I like the parking spot ideas. Two spaces is two down there. Yeah. Do you need a motion, Dave, or Yeah, just a motion to recommend going with uh option three would be more than enough. I make a motion go with option. Second. Okay, got a motion, a second. Any other discussion? All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Thank you. All right. You're still up, Dave. Just like just like it says baseball soft bill, so that's appropriate. You're up to bat. Yeah, up the bat. Good. Cindy, would would you like to speak after I kind of give Okay, so uh kind of a lot of history here at uh Fenway Fields. Um for a long time, FL pretty much took care of all the maintenance out there. They did the mowing, the irrigation, the dirt, um chalking, pretty much the whole thing. And slowly a last five to 10 years uh the city has been taking some of that back. So it started with we took the irrigation back uh did a bunch of repairs and got that that running. Um and then a year or so after that we contracted out mowing to a contractor. Um we did that for two seasons and then the year after that public works took over the mowing of the entire complex. So what's left and what Fly has continued to do throughout this whole thing is do field means. So dragging the fields, talking for games, that stuff for basically field prep. Um they reached out to Kyle and um said they would really prefer not to be doing that that dirt work going forward in 2026, which which leaves us in a situation where we need to figure out how that is done. So there's there's basically three options. The public works can take that on. Um you be hiring staff and and buying equipment to do that. Um there's an option of contracting contracting that out, you know, to a third party to to do that work. There are third parties that that do that kind of work. um or just local entities that that that will provide it. Maybe the school district or something where there is a shared service or a paying them to do that. So, it's there's money involved in all all three of those options. Um and there's pros and cons to all those options. You know, if it's inhouse with public works, you have an eye on what you're doing. Um, but then you're adding staff. If you contract it out, you can write a check and but then you're not paying attention to to what's out there. And then a local entity, there is at one point there was a a shared service, right, where we have a lot of equipment to mow, they have a lot of equipment to do field prep, namely there's a opportunity there where you could split services. None of this has been we haven't reached out to private contractors. We haven't had discussion with the school and we haven't approached city council about needing to hire staff and buying equipment. So really what Kyle and I are looking for is some type of direction of if you want us to explore all of them. If there's one absolutely we don't want to look at um or if there's one for sure we want to look at. That's my my my spiel. And I don't know if Cindy would like to add on to that or comment or if I've hit it on the mark about what I said. That's that's good. Our concern would be the sports um and having to charge them. We're doing the work this year and just kind of keeping tabs on really closely the finances, making sports are accurately reflecting when they're actually using fields like obviously yesterday and today cancelled out there. Um so we're just trying to figure out exactly you know what that would look like every year. So you know obviously that would be that's our concern making sure that it's a fair price that's not in town, but we've been been working with Kyle and just a lot of different options. Karen, you have a question? I do. The third option is the one that I think makes more sense for everybody on both sides, but I'm always concerned about Flaw's opinion on things. Um, the school does have the opportunity and the knowhow. You know, you hire people to come in part-time, they don't really have the knowhow. Again, I think we ran into that a while back where it wasn't done properly and not by the school, but by a third party. So again, I'd have to hear more about what you think because didn't the school and the city have kind of a a shared vision? Why don't you step up the microphone otherwise? Sorry. That's okay. Yeah. Cindy, do you want to I had the mic kind of angled. You want just Thank you. It's my favorite. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So, what So, what happened to that? It It's not being done that way now. Flaw's taken it over completely. No. Flaw has always man or like managed the fields, take care of the trash and and the dirt and chalk it for the games and that kind of stuff. But um you know that was kind of Al Hoggy's um his kind of his baby I guess if you want to say it like that. And it's just increasingly more you know he had the opportunity to go out there during the day and take care of all that and it's just we don't have someone who can do that um on a regular basis. So, Greg got nominated this year to kind of oversee the Good job. Good job, Greg. to oversee the youngsters who are doing the actual um the actual work. The the tricky part, and I I know Flaw and the school district and myself know this too. It's not a a perfect seasonal job, right? Because you start in like end of March, early April, and it goes till if you have fall ball, it's going into October. So, Yeah, your easy solution was hire some college kids who start in June and they work through Labor Day and problem solve, but that works for that little part, but it's the heavy part is in April. And you know that getting fields ready and and prepping it. So that's the tough part where I think even the school district, it's hard to justify a full-time position to work outside those windows, but you you don't have, you know, staff to work that. So that that's where it gets tricky where you know it's maybe a full person combined with all of us but it's not really one person for each one. certainly seems n like a as you recommend a full analysis is needed with all the options otherwise cost analysis I would think if you throw out an option now somebody might ask why didn't you look at that um because you've got three parties involved here and it is complicated what do uh neighboring municipalities do there's some some that just hire a a third party where I where I'm from it's they just pays some guy with a truck on a drag and he does all the fields and that's he gets paid x amount of dollars per field and and that's the way it goes. I don't know a lot of other youth ones how that goes. I'm sure some are in-house with you know some some cities have a a parks department right and you know a guy that works for me he worked in North St. Paul and that that's what they did they went and did all their 28 fields or every day they went and did all of them. So it's all over the it's all over the board. It's it'll come down to staffing and a lot of it's what did you always do just kind of like this flaw has always done this right and now there's going to be a change and you know I I agree with uh commissioner it's it's probably worth looking at all three of them and the good thing is it's May of 25 and they have already let us know that they really don't want to do this in 26 so we have a decent amount of time to figure this out um all of us have budgets though too. So it's we have time but we don't have a lot of time especially if it requires hiring staff or buying equipment at least you know on the city and we need to know that by September and school district has probably passed their their time already but uh and FL has their year in October November right for your so it's we have a couple months that's more than a you know it's better than nothing right so and I and to her point Kyle Well, Kyle's been working with the school and with Flock kind of coming over scenarios. We kind of were all aware this was going to happen at some point. So, I don't think we're starting from scratch, but it's it's probably dialing dialing in these numbers a little better and really having the serious conversation versus the hypothetical of well, what if what if this happened and we had to do this? Now it's okay, this is happening, you know, and not duplicating work because sometimes I feel we're have a bunch of groups here in the city doing the same thing. Just if we could figure out how to do it a little bit more efficiently. Yeah, it seems to make sense to try to centralize it when we've got more than one park, right, with camp and Yeah. I mean we we we talk about Fenway but we also have Cooling Camp and if fields grow and improve you have Schilling and even Belts Park and all the school district fields and I mean right now they schedule school fields and city fields are all kind of scheduled in the same pool. So already kind of transitioning that way to it's all one system but we all maintain them differently. I because right now FLBA does their own fields out at cooling camp and then FLA does the fields at Fenway and the school district does their fields and the city does a like shilling and belis with a broom drake. So three different people are doing the same thing right now too there. Again, that must have changed because I think the school took it all over because they knew the school the school schedule and they were a flaw schedule and instead of having a lot of different people schedule those fields, it seemed to be all centralized at one time. That's the work or the scheduling? The scheduling of the fields. Oh yeah, we had worked with them, but you know, I mean, Corey can speak to that too. if we were not I can't remember exactly what it was what what we were going to be paying to use that scheduling this year. Do you remember off the top of my head? Yeah, the scheduling. So, we did the school district took over the scheduling la we did the scheduling last year um and the year before through our school's software and then we centralized that. Um Kyle has since coming into his new position now that the city stole him from us. I know. Um, lucky us. Good. It's It's a win for It's a win for to keep him in the community certainly. Um, but he uh he's taken the scheduling back on now that because he has a handle of it. So, he also didn't feel like it was necessarily necessary for the city to be charged if something he could take on. So, the city now is scheduling their own fields in a heavy collaboration with the school district because there's a lot of crossover there. Flaw utilizes both facilities. is the school will go out and utilize uh Fenway and and there's certainly a lot of overlap there. Well, and I don't want to say that any of them aren't good. They are all good fields, but we have to all admit that Fly is our premium area out there. And so, whatever I'm all for looking at all the different options, but the bottom option is it has to be someone that we can guarantee is going to keep those fields in pristine condition. And that's where I miss Al so much because he would fight for this. So we'll have to fight for him to make sure we don't lose the integrity of that complex. And Dave's analysis is correct. I mean there these have been loose conversations now for some time. And I know even on beh I meet with our buildings and grounds staff every couple of weeks with community ed. We're always looking at what's next coming up and it is really challenging to staff the seasonal staff even just just within our school district. And so all of a sudden now we're at a school. We got Daniel Lions growing out, you know, and we're trying to keep those in nice looking order too. And so um being able to staff that. I think the area of commonality that we've found some of the most commonality is like the painting for the community. We bought a a painter that's a a robot painter that runs off a GPS. And so it doesn't make any sense for the city to buy one and for to buy one and the school district to buy one. It's not a It's not a cheap investment, but it really does a really good job and saves us a lot of man-hour to be able to have that robot. So, we do partner with with the city to be able to get those done and with FL to get the fields done off of school premises. So, I think it's worth an exploration to see how we can do that, but it it's a complex math problem. And to your point, Krie, I mean, I think everybody's goal in here is to keep not only Fenway in pristine shape, but to improve the other fields, too, to try to come up with a better way to make sure they're always getting mowed once or twice a week and to make sure that they're drug and chalk just pristine for games. So when kids from other schools come out here and they play at name your field, you know, they it's a aesthetically pleasing field, whether it's a irrigated field at Fenway or a non-errigated one that's still manicured nicely and looks good. So I think that's the goal of everybody in the room is to have great fields to play on. It's one of those things I I think this whole changing of how we do things probably opens up a lot more massive conversation going forward too. So I think we don't want to get to that point right away. wanted to figure out part of this, but maybe how this is all going to plug into long-term how the city with a capital C maintains, you know, athletic complexes throughout the entire school district, city, everything because we we all use them. It's just because it's a city park or a school district field. I mean, residents are using both of them the same. So, might have to look at just how we look at it differently. They don't use Fenway that way. They don't public just doesn't go out and use Fenway, do they? No. I mean, you could like inquire at the city to just have to utilize it to utilize it, but it is locked. Yeah. Because people were having their dogs and bikes and all kinds of stuff on the fields and not good if your kids died for a ball. Not a good idea. We're going to scratch that idea. That would be bad. Yeah. But like I mean you got the playground and the pickleball courts and all of that stuff you know at Fenway too that people are always using. Yeah. But not the fields themselves. They can't just call up and or run out there one day and a pickup game. They need to schedule it. Yeah. They can there if they're if does not have it blocked out on a schedule a resident or even non-resident can reserve fuel time. Okay. Okay. That that uh enough direction then Dave for you. The direction is to explore all options. The direction work with work with the school and and FLA and city staff to come up with a bunch of different options and try to find consensus maybe between the group and then present that back to the commission. That sound about right? Sounds good. Okay. My comment that I was gonna make. Okay. So, next weekend, not this weekend with Memorial Day, but Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, we have the 35th annual Fast and Furious tournament um out at Fenway and the high school and Columbus. So, there's 58 teams that are going to be so maybe if you don't want to go to Quick Trip, if you can go somewhere else to get gas because it's going to be crazy there. Um probably a lot of restaurants and stuff, too. Starts at 5:30. Um I know the police come out and they put no parking signs because it is bananas out there. You're parked all the way back to um Team Vantage. I don't think you can park on Fenway. Um actual Fenway Avenue, right? You can't park out there, but not supposed to. People try to find very creative places to park. The the hockey arena is being used at that time, too, for for their stuff, and they get mad when we have all these people out there. But it's a great tournament. Um really wellun, but 58 teams are coming to our community. I mean, some of them are are are are fast pitch teams, but a lot of them are not. So, we try to put on a great tournament. Um, and uh I just wanted to if you wanted to brave your your way out to Fenway to see what happens out there, um, we will be there. Sounds exciting. Yeah. Thank you. Good luck. Thanks. Oops. Staff updates. We got a bunch of them from Kyle here. Uh oh. Uh Memorial Day service coming up on Monday. Uh down at Lakeside Memorial Park. Uh the program here is from 9 to 10:00. Uh um posting the colors, commander remarks, music, and and rifle salutes. So if you'd like to attend that, that's from 9 to 10 on Memorial Day. We aren't going to meet until after the first Arts in the Park. So reminding everybody, Arts in the Park starts on June 3rd. Um Kyle will be reaching out um to the commissioners to invite them to come and sit with him at the tent, the city's tent to uh experience arts in the park if you're interested. So look for an email from Kyle probably next week with that. Um and the only other update is Castlewood or Forsome. Um we'll be here next week um to give an update on Castlewood, give an overview of Castlewood. Um, as you may or may not know, their agreement is coming up at the end of this year. Um, Kyle and Force have been working on a agreement extension. They also are looking at some capital work that's in the park dedication fund over the next few years. Um, they have one scheduled for this year that they'll present for that and show you what they're proposing, have done out there. Um, so just a lot of Castlewood stuff for one section of the the the parks commission meeting. Feel free to go out there anytime you want. It's a city building. If you want to check out that clubhouse, check out the sibulators. Take a take a look at that if you haven't been out there. Um, it's worth your time just to kind of see how that operation's going out there, too. Did you have any uh anything from Kyle? How has that been? Has that been extremely busy or people aren't aware that it's there yet or the simulators have they been used a lot? They've been they've been used quite quite well. Um so I don't know if you know how the contract goes but we we guarantee them $50,000 in profit every year for running the golf course and anything at over 50 the city splits with them. And this is the first year or it's been slowly climbing. We actually got a check back from Forsome this year. Great. So it's over the last five years since they've been here, they've been slowly increasing profits and and now we actually it's actually a revenue generating amenity at the city. Nice space. Yeah. So it's a a nice amenity. Dave, you said next week is that next commission meeting at Castlewood will be here. Oh, yeah. Sorry. next commission meeting. Okay, they'll be here. All right, that's all I have. Okay. Uh, parks and commissioner updates. Anybody have an update or any items? Just know anxious to see how Arts of the Park will all out. And I'm Did we get a a copy of the entire list of performers? because I don't remember ever seeing that, but then I'm old and I forget a lot. There's a there's a post on Facebook that the city put out there. I shared it out there, but I don't think there's anything that's printed or anything. I can certainly email that out to the commission if you guys would like. I do have I've kind of getting social media posts out there, so as you see them, if you could share them, that'd be great. Um, just to help spread the word. But I'm happy to email that performer list out to the commission. Appreciate that. And then what was really helpful when you're out there to have the city like just a small little paper that some of the commissioners and whoever wants to be out there. It's kind of nice to have them in your hand and you could go talk to the people that are around there and they love having that list so they know when for sure they want to come or get a group together or whatever. Sure. So, they've done that before and I was hoping that maybe they could do that again. Yep. Pass it along. Thank you. Y Dave, one one question for you is like last meeting we had few items where we recommended to the city council certain things. Y what is the procedure then for reporting back that what the council did or didn't? I should report that back, right? Well, it's Kyle's job to report that. Sure. But he's way up north. Is that something under staff updates in future meetings then? Yeah, I Yeah. Okay. So, for the manor park, it was unanimous. They voted in to uh approve approve that project. What was the other one that we sent for? Oh, a lot of the other was fee waiver, wasn't it? Yeah. But yeah, Manor Park, they were they all thought it was a a great choice and we're looking forward to getting that going. Okay. Yeah, there I think it was a cell phone tower. Oh, yeah. So, that one's kind of a weird one. They they approved to be able to let them apply for the CP. So, they didn't approve the poll. They just said that parks commission recommended and then city council approved them to be able or recommended them that they could apply for the cup. So, there's more steps there. So staff are meeting with them coming up. So they'll be you'll probably weigh on that again once the the application comes through. I think they were looking for the first round to see if you were absolutely against it and that would have probably squashed the their application. So did they talk about where that pole was? I wasn't at that meeting. There was a photo where it was going to be located at. I know it's cool and cap, but on the very edge or something tuck kind of back where the playground is, but far way farther back in that that back corner is where they proposed it. So, it' be the northwest corner if you pull up uh the agenda from last month. There's photos in there. Okay. Okay. I'll look at that. So, but appreciate that followup that and we just don't think things went to a black hole and disappeared. Were we also waiting for um the gentleman on the headarters playground area? Yes. So, he reached out to staff and said he's going to need more time to um come up with a plan. So, I think he heard you loud and clear that he wanted to see a a better product and now he has to kind of redesign some stuff. So, he just told um staff that he needed a couple more weeks to to put something together. And people are still asking me, they love the sign. That was another thing on my thank you thing. And to Kyle as well, just putting up that sign at belts made everybody feel happy. It's just like, wait a minute, it's just not going to stay like that forever. So, now that they're all happy, they ask me, "When is it going to start?" And I know we talked about the foundation part was going to be first and nothing with the playground would be till September. Is that still true? Yeah, I should added that in my staff update. So, I'll go back to my staff updates. Staff update. Belts Park. We had a pre pre-construction meeting today with the contractor uh to do the site work. Uh they're waiting to get the the wershed permit. They've been hung up on that. um even though they're not really doing much for watershed work but so they will they've been given the the contractor has got the bid they've given the go ahead to work but they can't start till estimated June 16th they have to wait for one more watershed meeting to get the approval to start work so phase one is the site work that I'll add all the ADA uh sidewalks um redo the sidewalk along Southshore the trail going from Southore store to the new playground. All that will be done between June and July and right now it's scheduled August. Um the playground will get installed. That'd be great. Better than September. Yep. So it kind of got slid back because of the the watershed push the contractor back which now pushes back the playground. But and then Manor Park will start in August and then be done hopefully in late September. Okay. Anybody have anything else? Once again, apologize. I was late here tonight. And thank you, Karen, for you didn't taking the hammer. You didn't get fired, though. So, you're back at it. I know. All right. How about a motion to adjurnn then? I'll second. Motion and second. All in favor? I I Thanks, everyone. [Music]