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Forest Lake City Council June 10th, 2024

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[Music] 7 o'cl so I'll call tonight's city council meeting to order and Julian can we have a roll call please council member hnik here council member valento here council member Roberts here council member Erikson is absent mayor Bane here I'd like to invite everyone to rise and join us for the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the rep it stands na indivisible andice Council we have an agenda before you I will entertain a motion to approve or any changes I'll make a motion to approve the agenda second we have a motion and a second all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and our agenda is approved our next item this evening is open Forum open forum is any residents opportunity to address Council on any topic of your choosing I say residents I mean any interested party you don't need to be a resident um and um is there anybody signed up for open Forum this evening no one has signed up in the room is there anybody that would like to speak in open Forum this evening I will also note we do have a public hearing on the agenda for our first um item on our regular agenda which is for the issuance of bonds for multif family housing so if you are interested in talking on that particular topic uh we will we will accept public comment during that period as well before we close open forum is there anybody that would like to speak tonight all right not seeing anyone come forward we will close open forum and bring um the agenda to council Council for your consideration tonight is a consent agenda that consists of items 6A through 6n and I will entertain any motions I'll make a motion that we approve consent agenda 6A through 6n there's a motion to approve is there a second Madame mayor um I'd like to pull um 6f off of set agenda okay council member husnik will you amend your will amend my motion that we approve consent agenda uh 6 a b c d and e n n g h i j k n l n m n rather all right M so we're just pulling one item okay we have a motion for consent agenda all items except item F there is a motion is there a second a second we have a motion and a second all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and motion carries first item this evening is um former consent agenda item 6f which is to approve the the lease agreement of Twin City docks and lifts and J&T Landscaping um Christina has this teed up from a staff memo perspective um council member Roberts let maybe pull it was your recommendation to pull this from consent do you want to maybe start conversation yes uh at the uh uh Airport's uh joint meeting with the airport commission um I'd asked a question about this land forc land Nursery property and wondering um who had initially paid for that pie of property since I've Lear I learned that it seemed like it came from a general fund so I'm wondering why um this lease would be then going to the airport fund and not the general fund sure um I believe it's always been considered an asset of the airport even though it was paid for through the general fund like much of the airport land had been and so for that reason it had always been going there in the past it wasn't budgeted there this year because um previous staff thought that that relationship would come to an end um but we were able to come terms on a a two-year agreement um with them Christina or um I don't know this is Christina Kevin or a Kevin question um does approving the lease tonight lock us into um which fund that goes into um if it if that is a question Council wants to further explore do we have some options that are kind of not tied to specific the lease approval sure so the lease agreement does not um specify where the funds go um Council can have this discussion during your budget process certainly you'll want to decide for the 2025 revenues where they go you could make that decision in August and and make it apply to the 2024 funds as well since we won't have closed out the books by then so there's no requirement to make that decision tonight I'm just going to speak from my own opinion I'm open to having the conversation about where where the fund should go um given kind of the Genesis of this piece of but I would like to see this approve the lease this evening um it's um a parcel that has um we've had some questions related to the occupancy of that land compared to what's happening with the county project we have all the parties in agreement um I'd like to see us be able to move forward with the lease um and again happy to entertain a broader budget conversation in another meeting but interested in feedback from others yep that's my opinion also any other I I'm complet in support of the of the um agreement I just I just think that for full transparency that money goes to the G needs to go to the general fund where that property was purchased out of yeah disagree would you say that that's not I um so my so it seems it seems that this has come from the general fund and I would like to have an opportunity to dig a little further into some of that history there's a long history with that parcel my broader concern is just um and it's a little bit easier in this conversation because this these were unbudgeted dollars for 2024 um there is some impact to these types of properties on the airport and so I just want us to have a broader conversation and just make sure that we've got um you know that we're in in as much agreement as possible about where those are where those funds are going or at least we had the conversation about um what does that mean for the airport I just want to take a look at that budget and see what that impact would be again it's easy in 2024 because that was UN unbudgeted um so I'm not sure it was a I'm not sure I have a strong long answer to your question I'm not sure I have a strong opinion I want to see kind of that full Airport Budget we're going need to look at the history of that whole transaction so and it's a lot it's old so right we need to do that so um so with that I would make a motion that Council approve the lease agreement that's in our packet for the Twin Cities dockin lifts and j& Landscaping is there a second I'll second we have a motion in a second any further discussion on this item uh just a friendly add a would you be willing to mention that that will be where the funds go will be discussed at a later date so certainly can um amend my motion to include with the understanding that there will be um staff and Council conversation ation about future funding and and direction at that time I'll second up updated motion updated second any further discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I I oppose and motion carries moving on to our regular agenda our first item this evening is consideration of the host City approval of issuance of bonds for multif family housing um and multif family housing project and housing program and Christina I believe you are walking us through this yeah uh mayor and councel I'll give a a brief um introduction and then Jenny Bolton from Kennedy and Graven who's the bond Council on this project is also here to um provide information and answer any questions so uh medic development um Group LLC is planning to rehabilitate five um gone properties across the state one of them is Westridge Apartments here in Forest Lake and so the city of Oakdale is going to be issuing the conduit Bond financing to help them but since you have one of the properties here in Forest Lake um you're being asked to give what's called host approval it doesn't impact your bond rating or your um debt ceilings or any of that uh um and then there's no cost to the city either um as you'll see in the um resolution the borrower which is mettis again agrees to cover any of our costs um thus far we've had you know the the public notice that was in the Pioneer Press wasn't even build to us it was buil directly to a Kennedy engraven and so we've avoided most of those costs but if there were to be anything that shown up here we would um pass those costs on to be reimbursed by the borrower and so um the state and federal laws do require that you hold a public hearing on this tonight like I mentioned we posted the notice of the public Hearing in the Pioneer Press um a couple of Sundays ago I forget the exact date um we have have not gotten any written comments since that um public hearing notice was posted in your packet is a resolution to approve um that encompasses the host approval as well as that joint Powers agreement with Oakdale again since they're issuing this for all of the other cities um and with that I think I will turn it over to Jenny and have her provide any additional information and once she's done mayor then open the public heing okay good evening welcome thank you mayor and council members I'm Jenny Bolton from Kennedy and Graven I am Bond Council for Forest Lake as well as for the city of Oakdale which would be the issuer of the bonds in this instance and uh I think Christina really covered everything that's um significant here and that is really because the project one of the the facilities is located in Forest Lake in order for Oakdale to issue bonds um that will finance the acquisition and Rehabilitation of that facility they need consent from um the Forest Lake City Council after the public hearing very good thank you Council any questions that you may have for Jenny or Christina before we open up the public hearing all right thank you with that um we will open the public hearing is there anyone that would like to speak on this topic and we'll hold open for a moment Julian do we have anyone online that would like to speak on this topic if you are online and would like to speak in the um public hearing please raise your hand on Zoom so that you can be recognized uh mayor the one attendee online has not raised their hand at this time okay one more time anyone else that would like to speak in public hearing hearing none we'll close public hearing and bring back to councel council for your consideration is resolution 610 2401 I would motion that Council approve that resolution is there a second I'll second we have a motion in a second any further discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and motion carries Jenny thank you for being here next for consideration is um our audit presentation by Bergen kdv and Kevin I believe you're going to kick us off uh yes mayor and city council it's that time of year where we have 2023 audited financial statements so here tonight is the partner in charge of the audit Andrew Grace Grace he will go over the results the audit and after his presentation uh he'll be happy to answer any questions you may have or I will I myself can answer any questions you have as well so included in your packet is the 2023 annual comprehensive financial report the communications letter and then the report on legal compliance um with that I will turn it over to uh Andy and go from there thanks Kevin thank you mayor members of city council for having me here tonight uh here to present the audit results for the year end of December 31st 2023 uh the first slide that we have is our audit Communications uh and our independent Auditors report and just wed to remind city council what our role is as your auditor and that's to provide Assurance on the city's financial statements that they are fairly stated in all material respects we do that through our audit opinion and that audit opinion is a clean unmodified opinion and that's the best that we can give as your auditor we also issue our report in accordance with government auditor standards uh that report talks about our consideration of internal control over financial reporting and we are required to uh provide any uh findings that rise to a significant deficiency or material weakness level there was one finding uh related to a lack of segregation of accounting duties at that significant deficiency level just to acknowledge that there's certain overlap in certain accounting functions and it's a fairly common uh finding uh for cities but just something that city council should remain aware of uh the other reporting that we have is our report in in accordance with Minnesota legal compliance uh the office of the state auditor requires that we provide a report uh if any instances of non-compliance come to our attention uh that are specifically addressed in the office of the state auditor legal compliance guides that includes certain State statutes related to contracts and bidding deposits and Investments conflicts of interests other miscellaneous provisions and we had no findings to report uh in accordance with Minnesota legal compliance uh the second part of the presentation tonight is just to highlight uh some uh Financial Communications and we start by taking a look at the budget to actual results for 2023 city council adopted a balanced budget that called for $1.4 million in revenue and $1.4 million in expenditures uh anticipating no uh change in fund balance for the year uh when we take a look at actual results here on the next slide actual revenues came in at 11.8 million $460,000 better than anticipated expenditures came in uh over budget by about $171,000 uh and that resulted in a increase in overall all fund balance of $318,000 and we'll look at some of the details behind that here on the following slides uh going on uh to the next slide here with the financial Communications these charts and graphs are included in the communications letter that we provided that includes all other required audit communication as well but providing this financial analysis for some further perspective on uh some Trend data and the operations here for 2023 and as we saw looking at the budget to actual actual results overall fund balance increased by that $318,000 uh the city uh does maintain a policy related to fund balance to M maintain a minimum unassigned fund balance uh of 50% of the subsequent Year's budget uh which is basically was right on uh here for 2023 uh when compared to the 2024 uh budgeted expenditures uh going on to the next slide we look at the five-year history of general fund revenues back in 2022 it peaked uh with the uh Corona virus relief funds um uh and with those uh being spent in the prior year uh we did see a decrease in overall revenue of about 9% or $1.2 million mainly driven by that intergovernmental F uh uh Revenue category which decreased by about $2.3 million uh related to that uh Federal funding in the prior year that was offset by an increase in property tax revenue with an increase in the levy and then the other Revenue category increased about 385,000 there were some unrealized losses that occurred in the general fund in 2022 and with better Market rates and and market conditions uh that there was a significant increase in in uh investment income for here for 2023 going on to the next chart this shows the sources of general fund Revenue uh and just uh in comparatively looking that uh comparing 2022 to 2023 uh with that significant shift in intergovernmental Revenue we did see that proportion uh decline from 20 1% down to 5% here in 2023 with offsetting increases uh in the other categories taxes uh up to 79% of total General general fund revenues and then again uh the that other category increasing with the increase in investment income the next chart takes a look at uh general fund budget to actual results uh uh specifically the uh revenues again those were $460,000 better than anticipated mainly driven by investment income uh being better than anticipated with a conservative budget for investment income uh all all other um areas were fairly consistent with budgeted amounts the next slide shows the general fund expenditures here over the last 5 years and there was an increase of about 4 and a half% or $529,000 here for 2023 uh the largest driver there was Public Safety expenditures which increased about 8% or about $500,000 with cost of living increases uh and step movements for police officers also fire wages and the State Fire pension contribution that's passed through uh the city also increased General government expenditures increased about 7% with uh legal and Technology costs increasing in 2023 culture and recreation increased about $150,000 uh and Public Works decreased about $200,000 with some allocation uh change in allocation of wages for 2023 and lastly Economic Development uh expenditures decreased about uh $93,000 uh due to the city Contracting planning and Zing Services uh in 2022 but having uh that uh staffed inous for 2023 the next chart shows the overall makeup of general fund expenditures by function a fairly consistent overall in how general fund expenditures are uh allocated by function uh everything with an about one percentage uh Point uh with a majority of expenditures going towards uh Public Safety at 57% followed by General government at 19% and public works at 11% the next chart shows the uh budget to actual results for on the expenditure side for the general fund which again were about $170,000 or about one and a half% more than anticipated Public Safety uh being um uh the largest contribut contributor there being $155,000 over budget with more uh salaries and benefits than anticipated Economic Development expenditures were about 100,000 under budget due to legal and other professional service fees being less and then Capital outlay was about 92,000 over budget due to the purchase of a dock which was ultimately Pro uh approved by city council but just was not included in the budget the next slide uh we start taking a look at the Enterprise funds of the city which operate a bit differently these are on a full acral basis of accounting so you're going to see things like depreciation expense and really gives you the full picture of the uh related cost of operating these services for City residents the water fund did have an increase in Revenue operating Revenue uh going from about 2.5 million to just over $3 million with an increase in rates uh operating expenses were fairly consistent and that resulted in operating income of about $985,000 uh also wanted to provide that figure uh factoring out depreciation expenses that's a non-cash operating expense just to give her a better idea as to cash flow on this fund and excluding depreciation uh operating income of about $1.6 million for the year next we'll take take a look at the sewer fund uh the sewer fund also experienced an increase in operating Revenue with the increase in rates operating expenses also increased from about uh3 million to $3.2 million and as a result operating income was $673,000 for the year that was uh the highest in the five years presented excluding depreciation operating income was at about $1.4 million for the year the last slide that we have is a a look at the tax capacity Levy and rates at the city here for 2020 23 uh total tax capacity um was at 35.8 million uh which is tied to Market values within the city that was the highest it's been in the five years presented and that it also increased at a greater rate than the increase in the certified tax levy uh which went from 12.3 million to about $ 13.1 million and because that uh again uh Market values increased at a greater rate than the uh certified tax levy uh the tax rate decreased from about 41% down to about 36% % which is the lowest in the 5 years presented that's a high Lev look at our audit results and the financial analysis and uh next like to open up for any questions could you repeat that Kevin has a really great document that a for explains everything here yeah it's this all kind of mindboggling when you go through all of it any Council any questions or follow-ups that you we would have I ask this question every year and I think I probably know the answer but I still have to ask so one our our only are our only area of um of lacking La lacking internal control structures and segregation of Duties do we think that in the near term that that is a an item that we can overcome or is this just a nature of our size and is going to be the the I guess maybe the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze to try to cover that so yep I was I was going to go go there with in terms of like a cost benefit analysis in terms of additional people really being needed in uh at that level to try and reduce that any further I think that significant deficiency level is is a mid-level finding it's something just to remain aware of because you know any changes in Personnel processes you know could impact that and and could cause that to go to a more severe level but I think uh you know mitigating controls are in place compensating controls are in place to keep it at that uh midlevel finding so I think outside of maybe evaluating additional um you know um employees in the finance department some of that a some of the access needed at those levels are just overlapping and and under needed for operational purposes but uh again just something to continue to Monitor and be aware of are we are we out of line with our Pure cities of this size on experience or is this a common finding you would have in a community of our size it varies I think some you know um you know have different structures and and you know may may have third parties come in in terms of Consulting and Outsourcing which you know um provides Sometimes some less access to perform multiple functions uh but I would say that you know it's it's fairly common overall okay very good any other questions one question for you Andrew uh sure the on the Water and Sewer fund the revenues of 980 some and 673 is that percentage wise kind of same question to our appears about the same do you see anything too high or too low there that varies quite a bit as well just based on um operating methodology in terms of trying to finance Capital Improvements internally avoid long-term debt financing for some of the obviously significant infrastructure you know needed to provide some of those utilities so I think that does just provide more flexibility and and and you know ability to you know keep some of that interest expense away from those funds and using you know the internal reserves that are available able for that going forward so I would say probably more a question in terms of capital planning and what's coming down the line sure any other questions and Kevin you are looking for official action for us this evening to accept the audit report is that right uh yes you're honor the official motion to accept the 2023 annual financial report very good Andrew thank you for being here this evening I would move that Council um accept the 2023 audit report as presented is there a second I'll second we have a motion and a second any further discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I I oppose and motion approved thank you so much thank you all right next item on our agenda this evening is item 7c which is consideration of resolution 610 2405 which is to authorize sale of General Obligations 2024a and Kevin this is you as well uh yes it is uh mayor and City Council in front of you is a resolution to approve the issuance of General obligation equipment certificates um back in 20 uh 23 a 10-year Capital Improvement plan was approved and a part of that plan was a purchase of two fire trucks and two snow PA trucks and the funding of those um purchases were identified to be through the issuance of equipment certificates uh these were purchases done a couple or authorized a couple years ago but with all the delays uh going back to the pandemic these fire trucks are now being delivered and money is starting to be incurred so we're ready to um issue those equipment certificates so this is the first approval of many that is needed from Council this is authorizing our consultant Ellers to go and obtain uh the bids for that competitive sale process um what if Council approves that resolution tonight I will then work with ERS on some things in between um the next major step would be let's say doing a bond raing call that consists of getting a call from S&P to get have get our bond rating uh currently our rating is at 8 plus which is very strong and really what that shows is if the higher the bond rating the better interest rate that uh the city will get um so we're looking I just uh got um been working with ERS today we're actually looking at doing that call rating on July 8th and I know in the packet it says that uh the attend to schedule is to approve that winning bid at the July 8th meeting but we would actually be looking at uh approving that bid at the July 22nd meeting um so with that um I'm here to answer any questions you have about uh the process or anything in the resolution as it relates to this issuance of equipment certificates thank you Kevin Council any questions that we may have this is kind of the final fun funding portion of um purchase approvals we've already made but certainly an opportunity for discussion or any questions what kind of what kind of Interest are we looking at for these bonds you know last time I had talked with um Bruce at ERS are looking somewhere around 3% and it once we once we authorize the sale and we get we're still waiting on the final number for where the pla trucks will come at for what dollar amount we um actually need for that we can start looking at uh payment structure how many years we want to go out to best suit to suit that City and that can affect the interest rate as well so Kevin multiple step process so tonight's resolution allows us to authorize and then this would come back for Council in the end of July is that right correct so then the uh resolution in July would be um in the bid to all the to the best bidder for the bonds and then um we would be looking at the city receiving those proceeds from that issuance about mid August good Council any other questions sounds like we may be ready for a motion if anyone's ready this has been approved for quite some time and so I make a motion that we adopt resolution 06-10 -2 4-05 resolution providing for the issuance of and sale of General obligation equipment certificates series 2024 a I guess in h proposed aggregate principal amount of $2,390 th000 I'll second we have a motion and a second any further discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and motion carries thank you Kevin all right our next item is item 7D which is a street light request and Dave good evening Mar and mayor and councel I I come every every couple years uh with a street light request um little background on this one uh last year uh the association at out at Pioneer Point uh approached Public Works to request six lights be put up between Highway 97 and the development where the housing starts uh those six lights would meet about City standard be placed spread out there's a picture of how that request slow farther down in your your packet um so I took that request in uh submitted at Texel energy and their TOS came to about $3,000 to put those those lights in um the HOA and myself recognized that was quite High to to for six lights so um they went back to the drawing board and and and as a group they picked that one light that's kind of right on that curve as you you come in there so they amended their request to have that one light put in uh submitted that to Exile energy um and they came back with a cost of well two options one you can pay a little more at the beginning and your monthly payment is less or one you pay a little less at the beginning and it's a little more per month but basically over a 25e period it'll cost about $113,000 for that light every street light that we don't own that's not a blue light we pay a maintenance fee on um so we pay about a little over $100,000 annually just on uh our maintenance agreements with all the other lights and town uh when when staff evaluates the number one is if we have funding and we don't have that funding this year um we're doing that all the street light paintings down downtown so that's that fund has about $25,000 for purchases like this or equipment repair so we don't we don't have that amount of money this year and also it's a mid block Crossing so it's it's one of those that's not the highest priority typically when Public Works reviews it it's either at a dead end like a cult to Sack or an intersection that's why I'm here tonight um not that to overrule me or just to give me direction uh option is either to deny the request or to direct staff to put this into the 25 CIP for fing this the street light I've attached the request uh location of the um initial uh light spacing and then the last one is where that one light would go and then the cost sheet broken down um on that final page I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have them do do we put an annual maybe you mentioned this and I missed it is there an annual amount that goes in into this fund to cover these types of requests and is it just that that fund is exhausted or so typically we have $25,000 in there annually to cover we do um some type of blue pole painting whether it's a traffic light or street lights or something to have to do with street lights that we pay that range is between1 to $20,000 a year um and then the rest of that dollar amount is if a car you know with no insurance smokes one of our Banner poles or one of our our lights I mean then we have to repair it and we have to have that cash to repair it um or if a globe breaks off or or something like that the project that we're doing with the street light painting is about 17 it'll come in around $117,000 if you approve that you'd be pretty much maxed out of funds in June and then I just don't want our fund to go over budget unless you know direct it to to our and I've made them aware too that on typical funds like this and even our street light policy does state that if we don't have funds it gets moved it can get moved to the next year so it's it's that option as well so they're expecting that if this is approved it's not until 2025 is that common understanding yeah I mean that's why I told him we needed to come to council because we don't we don't have the funding for it and we're looking for you know either direction to put it in next year's would be put in that street light fund your mark why that extra $5,000 or $6,000 is in there for the street light and then if this were a new development um what would be our what would be the required like lighting scheme that we we would require would it have been all six is is and ultimately what I'm getting at is the one that's requested where does that fit into our standard if it were a new development so typically if they were developed Pioneer Point today we'd require them to put every the developer could put all the lights in from 97 throughout the development then we would just take on the maintenance fees and would that have been about six lights or like yep that's the spacing is about 150 fet apart there're the Lower Lights not as I mean not the big huge Cobra so you need them a little bit closer together especially just how that street winds winds through there um you know the other option is is these can get added onto as well so if you have one if the request comes in five years to add another one they can just daisy chain these lights on it's just a pretty large expense right off the bat to put all six of them in I can appreciate why it's our answer we're not going to do six I'd like to see us do one I just I'm I'm I'm struggling with not doing one but also appreciate the fund balance impact and this essentially takes this one request would take about half of that so open to feedback and there's been other requests out there too that street lighting is a big thing this is I mean council member husnik brings up a good point this is a topic where we very much could you know be spending a lot of money on street lights if we don't have some pretty strong control over what projects we green light and and we do have a policy that director Adams mentioned and maybe we need to walk through the Criterion why he scored it low too that also be help funding right be help criteria yeah I mean we've had request the past two that if they're not dead end or intersection they're they're mid block you know or too close together they could you know proove for denial this this is in that area because there's just to your point it's not completing the street off you are putting one in there so you're not technically doing the whole thing and then does it just become a pattern of every year we're getting asked to add another light on so that's that slope you run down to that's why we review these street light plans when all new developments go in and all that or anything commercial to make sure we're grabbing these street lights when we can so we at least City doesn't have to pay that up for cost of the installation you know the maintenance fee is when you add up all of them it adds up to a lot but you can save a big chunk of money by having them put in initially yep that's go ahead I so I this seems like a a pretty simple ask I'm familiar with that stretch of the road it is pretty dark I appreciate the neighborhood and realizing what six cost then coming back and say you know least one um that that neighborhood pays more than fair fair fair share of property taxes in this city um and so I I don't see why we would not approve this it does seem like one is um Dave I'm I'm looking in your packet for the criteria where I just wanted to give that another another look and I am not seeing them oh it's not included in the packet can you just talk us through the background section of the report um see the policy is missing but they'll end of the last end of the first paragraph This the topics traffic Hazard intersections dead end streets and midblock locations and so current so yeah in that policy it says that with current developments the city Forest Lake would pay for installation of an approved street light provided installation money is available the city will also pay for the monthly electric charges if the light meets the street light criteria but there are no funds available for installation in the current fiscal year then the street light will be placed on a schedule for fund availability if the applicants desire they may pay for the installation charges associated with the light and the city can take over the monthly electric charges and yes that was asked then if they would be willing to pay that up and they said they wouldn't be requesting the street light if they had the money to put one up so there so in this instance because they don't SC score high on the criteria then it goes into based on fund availability is that right yep number one is traffic Hazard that would be and then number two is intersections three is dead end streets four is midblock locations and then five is date of request it go it scores them if they're multiple street light requests all at once do we have other requests in I think council member hust mentioned some or is this one no but typically when you have one request in then we'll get a bunch of them so yeah that's tends to happen that direction I'm just I this is an easier answer for me to hold tight to the policy when it's you know there's other lights and it's maybe a lack it's maybe it's a midblock request but there's a light here and a light here here we've got an entire neighborhood where it's there's none that's what makes the it seems like the the the exception is um warranted especially if we've come from you know a request of six down to one and in a time when you know 2025 conceivably there are some funds available for it so I'm leaning towards a yes unless someone has yeah this is GNA Street lighting is a big thing it's a big deal yeah and we got to figure out some way of getting going on it somehow right I'm sorry can I just ask this because this is new to me so I want to make sure we understand so if you say if the council says yes tonight then we still have to go through the budgeting process and if we get if we get a bunch of these requests they still aren't getting their street light unless they score high enough right I just want to make sure that people aren't leaving the room tonight with the wrong perception either so is that is that correct on how the policy works yeah I'm I'm struggling for a yes only because I know I I want street lights everywhere but for me it's a struggle because it's ranked so low and that if we have other people asking for street lights at what point is is it going to be a Floodgate at what point are we going to make everything an exception and then it just continues to go down that path so if if we if it's a yes that I would like to see it in the budget because as we continue down every single year we're like yes to everything yes and then we get to budget time and we're like no this is this is overwhelming this is too much um and so I would since I'm struggling for a concrete yes today I would prefer this conversation to maybe be more embedded within the budget conversation of maybe originally put it in the budget but then highlight be like hey remember back in June we talked about the street light here it is in the budget this is what it would look like this is what the um implication of that would be I feel more comfortable with that since it R so low yeah you would you would see a spike in that street light fund and uh Kevin would highlight that as your marked of that's why that's in there so I mean that that could be a point of discussion at that point and if more requests come in that dollar amount may change you know if I bring more to you and you say yes put that in the budget and then you might have four street light requests at $330,000 and then that that might be the time to decide yeses and NOS yeah because the other side of that coin we got to be thinking about the fact that we're going to be at a 15% right Levy as it is I'm try to explain that so so is it so is it possible to have this rather than us ad hoc approve these is what I'm hearing that instead we would consider them kind of all at one time as part of the budget and then we've got potentially multiple requests and their scoring as well as other competing projects like painting stre street lights right so we could paint fewer and install more right so that so we could make a rather than making a one-off decision make a kind of an overall decision based on overall fun yeah that's possible uh you can't waiver too much because we're trying to get on a fiveyear cycle of repainting the street lights and if we take too much away then we'll get off on that schedule and yeah try to go get herself on a routine schedule where they don't get all rusted out and stuff so I think there's a there's some wiggle room but not uh let's just not paint anything this year and then then our schedule gets thrown off year and well and I think that forces us to make that decision right of if we are committed to that 5year you know there's reasons why we we've said we need to do that then we also need to fund it and need to hold all things constant um that so that's a a um so when is the is is that a like Midsummer we're not it seems like we're not too far away from needing to have that conversation right so us not making a decision tonight is going to potentially delay a decision for at Le budget Workshop preliminary lobby but still you know so that still keeps them on scheduled for next year if that was the plan anyways I would rather revisit at that time um do we have other requests that are kind of pending not at this moment there was some that cleared out last year one was just when they hang on a power pole you don't pay any installation you add just a light you know so those typically get approved at administrative level just because they're and then they hit number one on criteria it's an intersection it's typically like a bus stop or something like that that they just get approved but these ones that cost that you're running electrical line and and putting up infrastructure is Right more of a question I guess all I'm looking if if this is a Definitely Maybe then we can add that on to the budget I'd still like if we get something between now and then if there are absolute denials or I'd still like to bring them just so we can try to flush some of them if if we get do get a rush um otherwise we're going to take an hour at a budget meeting talking about street lights and I'd rather just get the ones flushed out that we want to keep or the ones that we don't if that's all right with Council and I did have a conversation with the resident earlier this year and gave him a copy of the street um light policy so I don't know that it's gotten turned in yet but right so there could be that opportunity but there's more yeah I I would um I I think making this decision along with the budget is probably the most prudent to do um it's this is these requests come quite frequently and it's tough when it's a it's low scoring but it's low scoring because of the way the the development went in right like this was not the way we would develop today and that's it's bridging that Gap that's happened many many years ago is what's so challenging and we have unfortunately a fair number of pockets in the Community where that is the case so um let's make a budget decision I would move that we table this decision tonight until after we've had a future budget conversation is there a second on the table I'll second we have a motion and a second all those in favor of tbling signal by saying I I oppose and we have this tabled okay um next for consideration is 7 e request for proposal for Public Works facility space needs study and Christina yeah so mayor and Council I've put together in your packet um a request for proposals for a space needs study or assessment out at the Public Works facility this is a project that's been in your 10-year plan um the previous administrator had put together a proposal last fall um but it included much more than what's in here I've really part paired it back um to um to kind of take these things in smaller steps it included Master planning for the site that could be a park in the future it included um work with our our city engineer to get utilities out there we already know the utilities are running down the property line due to serving the uh Washington County Environmental Center um and a few other things that got taken out and so I'm bringing this forward to you now because there is money in the 2024 budget to do this study um so you don't have this doesn't have to be a budget discussion item for for 20 5 um I also think you know this will give you some data to help you make some decisions about where to plan for that Public Works facility replacement I did tour the site last week and you know of the four communities that I've served in it is by far the worst condition I've seen for a public works staff so I hope that we can um gather the data that's necessary to help you decide which way to move forward um as you'll notice in the the RFP it it uh you know maybe there's some way we could rehab things out there and so we want them to do an assessment of the buildings and see where the shortfalls are and put together a budget of what that might cost to improve that to our needs and also then compare that to a new facility and that's that's some of the data I think that um I hope can help the council make the decision on how to move forward on this um I think I'll just leave it at that and maybe answer questions I know that we got some public comments I kind of noted I think you know some Fair feedback or maybe we'll take some some language out so that we're not predetermining the outcome of things but um as I had noted previously also other areas that I respectfully disagree with so we'll take direction from Council tonight on on whatever changes otherwise that you might like to see to this um RFP the hope is to get it issued out um this week and back next month and then start working with um um a stakeholder group of our staff and and working through that process um with the consultant and and giving them you know 120 to 180 days to bring that back to you um probably with that time frame would would be you know early next year that you would see that but again my understanding is this Public Works facility is at least a couple years out so nothing is really impacted by not getting it wrapped up this year and we can encumber most of the funds for this year so whoa sorry about that thank you Christina Council let's just open it up I know that there were um there was a kind of a followup that chrisan had provided us that had some some suggestions for possible changes I'm open to changes if I could go any way on any on a number of topics so wherever we want to start I'm I'm open for let's just start the conversation feedback well I guess the big thing is we're looking at whether or not we really want to hire somebody to do this study and uh so what they would do is basically tell us what we need there wouldn't be any building specifications or anything that I would assume it's really like blocks on a map if you will we know you know we know the site where it's going to be so it's just kind of spacing that out really at a high level like I say blocks based upon discussion of you know how many office spaces or training rooms and bays and all of that kind of stuff that we give feedback on that we need and it's based upon our growth and you know I know that was one of the questions typically I would say you go out till you're at this point now we have numbers for 2050 from met Council I don't know how you project growth beyond that um right that's there's some limits to how far you can go but you also know that you have a large piece of property out there and so if you can at least plan for 2050 maybe you also plan for where it can easily be added on to the building in the future and stuff um but cost estimates you know an analysis of the building where is it def deficient what what kind of code issues might be there what are we behind on what would it cost to bring those things up to code if we wanted to stay in our current facilities maybe there's an opportunity to add a second floor I don't know and move the offices up but I I don't know what the answer is right that's why you go through this um process but but then the idea is you turn this information over to the council and you can weigh those options in helping you decide how to move forward okay look at the proposal would be that my thing I mean find out exactly what that would be like and yeah I looking it yeah when we look at our 10-year plan this project has a significant kind of near-term footprint on our 10-e plan and so I appreciate Christina moving this forward and we have budget dollars allocated for this I also appreciate the reduced scope and bringing it down to something that is likely to be much smaller than what we have budgeted um I agree with the changes of scope that were made um at a high level I support this but again I think there were some very specific comments if you know folks had thoughts on happy to entertain go ahead I'm comfortable with this uh Christine I think you mentioned that you not so long ago recently went through the same process in a former city and so you have that experience and that's basically how you came up with this so I'm I'm I'm comfortable going forward and be interested to see what we get for pricing on something like this any other points of feedback or questions on the study or the I'm sorry the request for RFP for a study sounds like we may be ready for a motion if anyone's ready I think everybody's in agreement that we want to look at at the proposal so I motion to authorize the issuance of a request for a proposal for a public works facility assessment I'll second we have a motion and a second any further discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I I oppose and motion carries our next item this evening is consideration of ordinance 738 which is to amend city code 3155-3157 23159 the airport commission and Christina yes uh mayor and Council we had some discussion on this last month and got some feedback from Council and so I brought to you a new ordinance for your consideration tonight um to adopt that would amend three sections of the airport um commission code the first is in the membersip membership section which we talked about last time that in addition to the five appointed members there would be one non- voting ad hoc representative from the city council that would be appointed um they can participate and attend all the meetings um in in whatever manner the commission may participate as deemed appropriate you know last week we had some question about whether or not a non- voting member could um hold one of the offices I think this language allows them to decide what that level of of participation is um last week also um at the airport commission meeting as you know they appointed a chair Vice chair and secretary so we're adding those those two positions Vice chair and secretary into the code in the next SE section about um meetings and reports last month we had talked about making it bonly um there's still the language in there that allows them to meet more frequently if something comes up but the B monthly more accurately reflects that they're meeting every other month another one of the request um from council member Ericson at the last meeting was to add some language about an airport manager and the language that you see in 31.58 um very closely resembles what's in the South St Paul ordinance for their Airport Manager and their a report commission that's where that language comes from um I know that we have a secretary who takes minutes but this is just we got to make sure that somebody on staff is keeping track of those minutes and they're they're in our record um it's been been challenging as the new person to try and dig all those out and there's some gaps um I struck out the language that the minutes should be furnished to the city council at a following meeting that's not a practice that you've done here it is kind of old school that some cities have done with all of their commissions but since that hadn't been the P practice I observed I think we should just take it out rather than create confusion um and then lastly an 31.5 n which is Administrative control I just added a a sentence that says the city council shall appoint an airport manager who shall oversee the daily operations to ensure compliance with local state and federal regulations I want to be really cautious about not getting too detailed in our code you know that what what specifically any of our positions do whether we're talking about it here tonight or at the next meeting with respect to Parks we should keep those specific duties in a job description not in code because if you think about every time you want to change duties or reporting relationships or whatnot you don't want to have to go through the process of update your updating your city code so I tried to find that that balance there with that language and so with that I'll will take any questions uh open up Council any questions that you may have comments did we get a chance to see that language I'm I missed something fur the swimming airport see what language about the uh the language and the code for the South St Paul Airport um that was in the packet last time where I had all of those other examples from other cities back on yep um so I I support the the ordinance that's in front of us tonight and um I think this make some structural adjustments that have been needed um what you know we we talk about the we reference in here the airport m manager um and I I think that's think that's appropriate I think it it references that we will appoint an airport manager talks about their role in maintaining some of the the minutes and um kind of what happens at the airport commission I think that's all appropriate I just I just want to say that um we're having there's there's there's been some conversation around role of the airport manager and what is that Staffing going to take um I have some heart burn over and I recognize there's been some near-term airport activity that has really increased staff time in in the near-term I would hope that when we are in ordinary operation and things are functioning as we need them to function that we're able to identify that that role really isn't more than certainly more than a quarter of a full-time person and I would hope that we could get something that is fraction a fraction of that we don't need to split those hairs tonight but um I just need to keep saying that as we're considering what is this role and how much is it going to take um and again that's gonna that's going to increase at times of projects and it's going to decrease at other times but if we were to you know even that out over three years I would like us to see that we're at you know maybe an eighth of a person or something that's just um kind of appropriate for our our activities and so again that's a conversation for a different day but I know it keeps coming up and so I just wanted to highlight that otherwise everything that's in this tonight seems to be what we've previously talked about and we've had some agreement on so I'm happy to support it but also open to hearing other comments y any other points of feedback or concern this is I I agree with you Mara I mean we had a really good situation here until Dan left I mean he did a great job out there and uh um keeping everybody in line and taking care of the pumps and all kinds of he was in taking care of the the uh uh farming leases and all kinds of things out there so um I think that's the role that we're kind of looking for is something that in that line somebody from staff uh the last thing you want to do is ever have anybody out there uh that has a direct contact with the airport uh an example would be a hanger owner for instance it'd be the last thing you'd want to do and so um a good example would be I don't want to pick on Dave too much but he's out there a lot you he's cutting grass and taking care of broken lights and all kinds of things but just an example job offer no it's just an example of a I don't want a resignation on my desk no it's just an example of staff member being out there a lot so that's you know um so any other points of discussion on this all right ready for a motion if anyone's ready I will uh make a motion that we approve ordinance 738 to amend city code 3155-3157 yeah lock the doors all right moving on to item 7g which is the award the contract for taxiway A3 and taxi Lane Bravo um extension project um Silas we've got you here tonight thank you for another trip to Forest Lake uh good evening uh mayor Bane and members of council appreciate the opportunity to opportunity to continue the discussion from the May uh 28th meeting about the propos proposed taxi way A3 and taxi Lane Bravo extension projects proposed at the airport so there was two questions posed at the council meeting on May 28th during the discussion that I wasn't able to answer at that time one of them was in regards to what uh what happens with the state funding appropriated for the taxi Lane Bravo extension project if Council elects not to move forward with taxi Lane Extension in that area and then with the if there's a construction schedule if there would be any impacts to local events that are planned um so I'll start with answering the first question in regards to impacts to State funding for the project administrator H and myself had a meeting with mind aeronautic staff today to ask that question in terms of if uh city council elected to not construct uh the tax heing Bravo extension to the north and look to Pivot to the South what impact that would have to the funding that's been appropriated for State fiscal 2024 for and mot stated that if the project does not move forward as uh as planned that Forest Lake would have to uh request funds in state fiscal 26 then to construct taxi Lanes to the South that they scored the project as is so if there's any change to the scope of the project Forest Lake would then have to go back to mindat to request uh funding for taxi Lane uh extension extensions to the South and then the other question was in regards to um if the if the contractor would Pro provide a draft schedule so we could determine if there would be any impact to local events uh we understand that there's a Flyin breakfast scheduled for August 17th uh with the EAA and then also with Hangar One there's a wedding plan for September 21st so I reached out to the contractor and they've stated that uh as the schedule sits right now they would plan to have all construction completed before the Flyin breakfast on August 17th and not have any impact to the two local events that are on schedule so I'd be happy to address or answer any other questions or or comments that uh any members of council may have about the project thank you syus Council let's just open it up any questions that you may have everybody knows where I stand on it so I um so helpful to hear mot's thoughts on pivoting these dollars to the South um and also just want to acknowledge everyone's um kind of patience as we've kind of taken a pause to ask some additional questions and dive a little deeper I think our conversation um at the airport commission was incredibly helpful um in just getting additional information just helps make a better decision um you know I personally I I come back to we've had a long-term Airport layout plan and this has been part of the plan for quite some time um and that matters and I think you know as we're looking at final approval it's good to do the double check of is this the next best move um I am happy to support this tonight but also want to leave room that the um we we're we're saying multiple things around what is our goal for the these hangers that are going to be constructed to the north and on one hand we talk a lot about commercial um but we know that the demand is for you know more recreational hangers and so we're saying different things I think we just need to acknowledge and allow for some of that there's some unknown there um but also I I'm I'm comfortable making the I'm comfortable supporting this tonight because I think ultimately we also we don't need to make that decision before this particular you know we we move this project there is some flexibility in what actually goes into those lots I believe um and I I think it's maybe just best to acknowledge that um there is there seems to be both demand for you know more private hangers but also some a lot of interest on the part of the cities and City and others in having that be more commercial and those things don't necessarily align but I'm comfortable with that ambiguity personally um certainly welcome hearing from others and seeing where others may be I think that that could be determined along the way here I that's kind of a mixed up thing anyway so that could certainly be determined I I think uh um just because there's money out there taking taxpayers money like this without a real plan is being bad stewards of of the taxpayers dollars I realize they're not they're not property taxes but they're fees a fee is a tax it's a user fee it's just like a sales tax we really have no plan we're building a road or of tax weight to Nowhere uh to for hangers that um when we have opportunity which what more Revenue coming in to go to the South and so I I just think it's it was clear on at the last meeting that there really is no plan we don't have any idea about a back road to this to actually access these build these these potential hangers I think it's poor planning and and uh just because money's there for the taking doesn't mean we should take it understood that I'm I'm supportive of the project um I think we've come this far looking at it and discuss discussing it and um even though the plan isn't 100% I think we are getting there through these conversations and um I think by having those qu having more questions it there's going to be more answers and I think we'll have a plan going forward and we'll figure that out soon sooner rather than later and I think too with this project we aren't people have been concerned about going south but this project even though we're going north it doesn't mean that we're necessarily not ever going to go south that's that is clearly a want and a desire and I think um I wouldn't want to bypass this opportunity and then not do any project this year or next year for the sake of simply wanting to go south and um so I'm supportive of this project any other points of discussion um so on our agenda tonight is to award the project um I would motion that Council award the contract for taxiway A3 and taxi Lane Bravo extension project um to drussel Contracting for 63128 a65 as indicated in our staff memo is there a second I'll second we have a motion and a second any further discussion good Madame mayor i' uh like a roll call vote please certainly uh roll call vote can we do a roll call vote Jolene Council m husnik i council member valento I council member Roberts n mayor Bane I and 31 and motion is approved syus thank you thank you um next on our agenda is consideration um of a donation and resolution of 610 2404 and I thought you could just read it mayor I can read it me there apologies um for like liance Club has generously um donated $2,600 for the purpose of funding the Forest Lake Senior Center and supporting Senior Center activities and also a donation of $1,500 was made for the purpose of supporting the um future Veterans Memorial and with that I would move that Council approve with gratitude resolution 6102 2404 is there a second I'll second we have a motion and a second any discussion hearing none all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and motion's approved thank you so much uh we do not have any discussion items this evening um fairly lengthy work agenda so we're going to move right into staff updates Ang jelene no updates this evening and Kevin no updates Christina um just watch your emails you know next week is your interview process obviously for the city administ administrator we may cancel the work session on Monday um just because I know you've got a heavy lift next week and there's nothing in my opinion that's really pressing that we need to do so um watch for updates for me on that by the end of the week very good thank you Christina Amanda yeah uh on that note um one thing just keep in mind you all day Thursday the 20th is booked and that evening um and then also Friday morning we do have that period blocked off as well it's unclear if that will be needed but we want to make sure that we have that noticed as a meeting in the event that Council wants to sleep on it before they make a decision on Friday and we have that do we have that starting at 9:00 a.m. on Friday the 21st julan is it 9 or 9:30 that is the time we have slated yeah 9: a.m. perfect it hasn't been officially noticed yet though so if we need to we we've got time between now and next week we just have to give a three day it'll be a special meeting yep um second thing for me is uh cannabis so just looking for some direction from Council on from City administrator to can yeah just a nice little segue I had nothing so I just popped right over to cannabis um for for um obviously there was a a another sort of round of legislation that went through uh this last legislative cycle it's um there's a lot of policy decisions there's a lot of just general information and then there is sort of the staff component of building out whatever it is that Council wants what I'm wondering if Council can give some feedback tonight in terms of do you want sort of a cannabis 101 a summary of Where we've been and where we are do you want to just sort of jump to the the what what we need to sort of decide as a city from a timeline perspective uh there is a lot of information floating around out there frankly a lot of misinformation floating around out there at this point it does not appear as as though will be any licenses issued until 2025 that said there are things in the statute that make it possible but when you put all the pieces together not really conceivable because of the Hoops that have to be jumped through in the time frame in which those that has to happen um so I don't anticipate that that there is going to be anything that needs to happen this summer at the same time this is probably a process that requires um we won we aren't able to license but sort of registration and if we want to Zone this and thinking about this not just from a retail perspective but we're talking about manufacturing and cultivating growing those types of of businesses as well so it there's a lot of moving pieces so my question to council is what would you like how do you want this information I I think if we can get a history on it on it about where we've been because that La the last conversation we had was like I feel like a year ago oh it's at least that yeah so um so and at that at this point I I remember it but I vaguely remember it so I think it'd be at least in my opinion it would be helpful for me to just have that little that recall of what we talked about um and then OB what's out there in moving forward I think it'd also be helpful to understand and have clear visibility to the regulatory landscape if that's known um because I it' be helpful to walk in or to be able to know here's what's within we here's what we can control and then for some of those things that we typically would have controlled under either tobacco or alcohol that's not necessarily the case here but just to understand what are some of the guard rails that are in place um and I guess what where do we fit within that structure of the regulatory framework do you envision this first as a work session or yes okay like at I mean not at a council at a council work session meeting obviously it' be a discussion item but do you envision it at a work session meeting it could be a discussion item I mean if this is something we need to you need to feed to us in small pieces that if we were to do it in a I mean I'm happy to use like this time in a discussion item as well if our work session agendas get booked okay the staff meeting on this last week was two hours for Amanda to update us so that's why i' be worried about why I'm asking is this is a yeah it's a long PowerPoint I do have pictures if that helps um does it does it also um I mean part of this is I don't know what I don't I don't know what I don't know right so do we how I mean are there zoning to the extent we're making zoning considerations is is that timing like of the essence and we need to be moving fast on some of those items I'm that's where I'm a little I have a blind spot I think what's helpful frankly from a staffing a staff perspective is what is council's sort of General policy around cannabis there's obviously cities that are trying to prevent this from being in their city as much as possible right however they can um prevent these businesses from coming in they're going to do that and there are uh on the other Spectrum there are cities who are welcoming this and they want to create you know opportunity in this industry I think the threshold question for for staff really is is where is Council on that Spectrum um I think that question is probably easier answered from from you once I've given you the history of cannabis and what we can do right what what does this look like what do these businesses look like um because I think otherwise it's hard for you to know if it's a green light or a red light that's what we have to look at you got to get all the information you know my uh I mean I think I think you're I think one of the questions you're asking is are we looking for this to be the the prohibition like you know Ohio model of prohibition of like never here or like the Utah model of prohibition of never here or are we Las Vegas right like you're like where do we want to be and maybe Las Vegas is the wrong example but we're on that Spectrum right like because the package looks different that you know that staff will build for you depending you want so as do you have enough guidance and is the final decision has been made from the state level to give you enough guidance to give us and the public because I'm getting a call at least once a week or something wanting to know what it is and so maybe welcoming or inviting the public to be a part of this conversation I mean I think I you know it's it's our really ultimate decision but really it's it's it's the public we need to see what they will think and what they want it's not about what we want and so some kind of an open meeting to discuss that I think is is important because it's just it's not really our decision we want to know what the What the residents want yeah so it sounds like it will be it would be best to be on a regular city council agenda so then more public exposure for it and maybe it we do a little bit more public noticing around you know come if you want to weigh in come if you want to and we could even do a public hearing if we if you want to just so you can sort of the purpose of the public hearing would just be to gather public perspective yeah um but to answer council member robab answer your original question yes there is enough information from the state at this point that I think I can fill in the four corners of the Box what's what still has to be built out is a lot of the things that the office of cannabis management needs to do which are sort of the granular rules um but in terms of what this sort of looks like we have a pretty good idea at this point so maybe it's a two-part thing where it's an education to us first and then the Public's invited in I guess yeah I I I like that and I like the maybe the public invited in is maybe more on a traditional Workshop night and maybe with some additional you know feedback right it's cannabis night so send something out to the chamber you know I I I mean really like there is there are considerations that we you know we should hear from and um and I suspect if you know if that word gets out and we have that opportunity before we are you know kind of making some of these initial decisions it would be good so so I appreciate you bringing this up because it'd be nice if we get the sooner the better not get flat footed like we did when it became legal and that was a small window next thing we don't have an ordinance for against it and so if we could have something in place as close to January 1st as possible is be ideal I don't see any reason why we can't have this done by the Fall I mean I really and and frankly if I'm if if you if the city decides that they want to be more open that's helpful for people who are are you know prospective business owners to understand what are the rules going to be if they want to come here right um so yes not a problem I'll work with Christina to come up with a a date to do the education piece which will probably be an about an hour of the two hours yeah that's a separate work session it it should I think it'll be about 30 minutes but it there's just a lot and I think it's just really helpful to understand this this is a this is a big one you know kind of think about if alcohol was starting from the very beginning and all of the facets of that this is very is very similar so there's just a lot of things to think about also just helping us look around the corner it would be helpful to understand what do we need to know what's not changeable right there are things that we can change over time and then there's going to be certain things that because of the nature of what we do and we're talking about land rights in many cases it's just hard to change and so it be helpful to understand what do we need to have locked in that is pretty immovable versus other things that I can imagine we will have some more flexibility on right we had conversations even about like enforcement in you know private but public spaces right or on priv public spaces that are private property like restaurant parking lot right we've talked about that as part of the so there's some things that are a little more malleable versus some of our the property rights things and Zoning is more restrict correct we we have to make sure that um those people have a choice you like um I'll give you a good example of the American Legion they've got to sign out there nothing on anywhere on the premises so I mean that's just one example maybe there's a a business that says yeah use the parking lot there's that kind of thing and uh so there has to be a choice and I want to make sure everybody has that opportunity I think even one of the like really high level questions and this would help us gauge where you're at you know you have to provide a minimum of One retail space for every 12,500 people you have here do you want to stay at that minimum or do you want to go well beyond that you know that's kind of that that range question I think that you know that's kind of something to maybe be thinking about before we meet is as far as how open to this you want to be yeah on that topic um I there was some discussion there was some discussion and more public media coverage of a couple of cities saying okay we're required to have at least one but it's going to be the city has that taken any footprint or is that kind of been a an item that was considered and cities have come off of that yeah so that was addressed this year in the in at the legislature and the if a city chooses to open a municipal store it does not count against the required one for okay yeah so if we wanted to do that um and and spoiler I will be strongly recommending that we do not open a municipal cannabis store thank you there are do that either so it is just not an industry that you want to get into unless you actually want to be in the industry and I think a lot of cities were looking at it as a way to avoid allowing a a private you know a just a private um store in the in the city that's not a great reason to open a cannabis store frankly a a municipal cannabis store um the the cost is incredible just the logistics are in you'll learn all about this in my fun little presentation and so I have a feeling I won't need to convince you of that I think you'll be very convinced by the end of the presentation it does that's a that that question though it just seems like well just tell us how many you're comfortable with that's challenging because we don't have limits on our numbers some cities will limit you know number of like um tobacco license is or and we don't do that so um and maybe it's it's a yes or no do you want to have limits or not that's maybe the way I should have said it right like do you want to just do the minimum or not like you don't for alcohol and tobacco and you don't need to answer tonight I'm just I I think we're going to have to start really high level to get you down to the details yeah but is there not a a number of restricted number of um alcohol no no it's it's open I thought there was only so so many are we Li you can adopt limits I think but I believe you have them in your code we don't have anything that's for me we're not providing a lot of feedback but I I mean just to that question I'm GNA I don't think we need well I'm going to lean more towards I I'll lean more towards free market of let like we don't need to limit the number but free market as limited by zoning right so then I would think that there are certainly certain zones that we would not want to see or certain requirements of that experience that we might want to lean on um but you know as a restriction it's legal and I we're just going to have to wrap our heads around it's legal and then it's how do we do it the best way for us so if it helps the state is limiting the number of licenses that they will issue between now or January 2025 and July of 2026 so um there is a a significant limit on the number um because they are concerned about Market you know oversaturation and so they're trying to sort of put in some controls to prevent that from happening okay well we look forward to cannabis 101 sounds good thank you how follow that up Dave you got it what do you have I know how to follow that a few updates uh weed Harvester starts next Monday um so that'll that'll start on Third Lake they alternate starting every year so last year we started on first Lake and work East this year we'll start on Third Lake and and work West so uh look for calls on that if um we don't do dock cleaning we follow the DNR scale or anything you get requests just send them along to me and I can talk to the residents about that um few belts Park updates uh getting submittals and contracts signed for the Court Rehab so that's well on its way waiting uh for the counter offer from the church for the parking agreements I haven't heard back from them yet um may have noticed the water puddle that's kind of by the old baseball field uh that was we harvested the egg line last fall in preparation for that um reconstruction of the park so it was purposely left low cuz when they Mass graded the park they would have filled that back in it would have the Contours would have changed um that did not happen so once the water gets out of there we We Will adding top so I w't see it and getting that back to normal grass so and the last one at belts is you might have also seen the orange Jersey Barrier is up by the playground uh the slide got severely damaged in about April U we've been working with the vendor to try to find a slide it's the age of that uh playground they don't make that slide anymore and they're actually trying to find a different type of feature that they could maybe retrofit in there but they couldn't find one that you wouldn't end up having to drill holes into the existing and that kind of it's not taking your warranty away but it's basically not making it safety compliant because you're adding you're putting holes in the play ground so we did find a railing um that we will install um those Jersey barriers will go away we we left them there because there's a foundation for the slide just in case we had found that slide but Public Works will remove that and get rid of those two orange things the downside is it's probably 12 to 13 weeks to get that railing so it'll kind of be boarded up up until then but they can still use it as just a a sheet of plywood in there and and fastened off so nobody falls off that side but if you get any questions on that that's what's happening there finally arts in the park tomorrow night we're going to give her a go again uh 80 degrees in full Sunshine is what the weather forecast says tomorrow at 6 so hopefully it'll be a uh a little bit better than than last week uh live music starts at 6:30 there's 65 vendors and of all over 15 uh food trucks so uh come on down and have some fun down at Lakeside Park that's all I have thank you Dave Ryan mayor city council just a few updates uh the local Street project is uh been working down in the South viu Development Area by the South Water Tower uh a lot of work that's been going on there is the concrete curb and gutter Replacements uh spot repairs and then storm sewer repairs that are underground so things will look like they're moving a lot faster now by the end of the week when they start doing some payment removals and getting that prepped for the base course payment down there and then they'll eventually move down this week down to 184th and in about three weeks we'll be up here by the dressle tired iron uh area and then continue out to the east uh County State 8 Highway 33 or Everton Avenue the Washington County project today they Clos 19th streets that intersection 19th and Everton uh they got until Saturday to reopen that after Saturday work uh so we'll have some water main work going on in there starting tomorrow residents have been notified uh last week that the shutdown will occur tomorrow and uh then once that's done then everything else above it'll continue to be pulled through that intersection that way then it'll be opened up with the next phase of the project um some great news we were successful on obtaining another $27,000 from the 2024 26 water efficiency grants so that'll be eligible money uh to continue that program starting July 1st again that will then go towards applications submitted for replacement of high efficiency washing machines um lowf flow toilets uh high efficiency dishwashers and irrigation components and irrigation control controllers so it's good program reduces our water consumption on replacing some of the older models and moving forward so number of years have gotten that one now that's what I got unless you have any questions questions for R all right thanks Ryan me and Council I have a couple updates for you today uh tomorrow safety camp at the uh City Center here I'll be hosted in the fire department uh we kick off with a bike rodeo at 8 in the 8 in the morning for bike safety and that uh continues throughout the day with a bunch of events um we have about 50 kids which is uh the allotment that they had for safety camp this year and hopefully the rain isn't too too bad tomorrow uh the second update is more of a kudos for Force like PD on Friday uh June 7th we were called out for a structure fire in force lake at 1 pm um when the call came in uh fire was visible fire and smoke were visible from exterior of a structure several calls came in uh due to force l quick response uh they used four or five Fire EX ners and actually knocked the fire down so what uh could have been a significant loss fire was actually a minor fire uh Force Lake Hugo Scandia uh were on scene for about an hour and then we cleared so uh kudos for them for quick action quick response and and uh a good fire knockdown very nice wonderful to hear thank you Chief yep all right uh let's move on to um Council updates we'll start with council member Roberts nothing to C council member valento nothing for me council member H I don't have anything tonight either uh just quick update for me and maybe something that for Council to have on radar um we had an our Eda meeting this evening one of the discussion topics that we had was um consideration of um and some asking for some policy feedback on what do we want to do with the um affordable housing grant money that we are receiving from the state and re from the state as in we are getting just a little north of $200,000 um annually starting yet this year and um we have an option to um we have three years to spend that money so we have some time to decide how we're going to use those funds what is um concerning to me is that we cannot use any of that money for administration so anything that we want to do to administer any of the programs to give away that money or to use that money needs to be funded from the city which is just really unfortunate and um and challenging right you if you're going to have a grant program or any sort of a program to use those dollars we want we need to administer that well and um so staff's looking at some options we provided as an Eda some feedback um there are some opportunities perhaps to partner with the county partner with others to kind of share some of those administrative costs so that each City isn't doing their own um but it's a big hole that we've really got to um I feel solve for before we start getting too far into what are we going to do with the dollars because regardless what we're going to do with the dollars we need to make sure that we have you know administered them appropriately and awarded those dollars appropriately so just um uh staff's also getting feedback from the Planning Commission that ultimately will also come here to council but just something to have on your radar um as we are the recipients of those funds and they're coming straight from the state it's just kind of this question of um not just what but how um are we going to manage those so um that is um the end of my update and that is the plan end of our planned agenda I will entertain a motion to adjourn so we moveed all second we have a motion and a second all those in favor signal by saying I I oppose and we're adjourned thank you everyone [Music]