[6:51] Welcome to the City of Woodbury City Council meeting for today, October 22nd, 2025. It is 7:30 p.m. We're meeting here [6:59] in council chambers. This meeting is also taking place virtually. So, there are some people online, but we got a [7:05] large group of people here tonight because we've got some great awards to to pass out and it's really good to see [7:10] all of you. Please feel free to come back another time. We love having people in the audience. Um, these meetings are [7:17] recorded by True Lens Community Media and they're broadcast live, which is happening right now, and it's also [7:22] replayed on cable channel 799. Meetings are also available on the city's YouTube channel. Members of the public public [7:30] may attend the meeting in person, which many of you are doing, but also online. And we do monitor any online comments or [7:36] questions. Ashley just keeps an eye on that. And uh if anyone wants to do that if you're watching from home, uh please [7:41] feel free. There's a spot on the agenda. If you find the agenda online, click on a green button and you can watch this [7:47] meeting from home if you're not now or you're wanting to do that in the future. Um so with that, uh would you please [7:53] stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the [8:00] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation [8:06] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [8:11] I was just [8:17] seemed a little seemed a little thin over your throat. Yeah. Yeah. Mixing things up. [8:23] Um Ashley, would you please do the roll call? Council member Morris here. Council member Santini [8:28] here. Council member Stafford here. Council member Wilson here. Mayor Bert here. We are all here tonight so we're [8:35] able to conduct tonight's business. We've like I said got a couple special awards. So a couple things uh to kick [8:41] off tonight. Uh we have the presentation of the awards for the photo contest winners. Um and Ashley where? Oh, there [8:48] you are. You're already sitting at your spot is going to tell us more about this. We're very excited. It's always so fun to see our amateur although many of [8:54] you I think are professional I mean or you look professional of photographers and get to see your great works. So um [9:00] Ashley tell us a little bit more about this. Thank you. Thank you may thank you members of city council. Um hi everyone. [9:07] I'm Ashley Bennar, community relations specialist for the city of Woodbury. Uh a little bit about this contest. So the [9:14] city staff initiated the focus on Woodbury photo contest in 1999. Um, and [9:19] it's now a popular tradition amongst local amateur photographers and their families. Um, Woodbury Magazine now [9:26] operates the contest and City provides promotional support. Um, as part of this [9:32] collaborative effort, we're able to use photo contest entries in city publications, on social media, on our [9:38] website. Um, so thank you Woodbury magazine for keeping this um, fantastic [9:43] contest alive and thriving in its 27th consecutive year. First place entries [9:49] were published in the October City Update newsletter and all winning images will be presented here tonight. Here to [9:55] tell you more about this year's contest is Haley Almstead, managing editor of Woodbury Magazine. [10:02] Great. Thank you, Ashley, for the introduction and to city council for hosting this evening. As Ashley said, [10:08] Woodbury Magazine is proud to be presenting the winners of the 2025 Focus on Woodbury photo contest, which really [10:15] shines a light on all that the great city has to offer. This year, we received 352 entrance in several [10:23] categories, including abstract, people, pets, places, seasons, and wildlife. And [10:29] tonight, we'll be celebrating all of these photos. So, without further ado, let's honor your award-winning [10:34] photographs. In first place, we have Rocket Ship by [10:41] Greg Mezer. I have a question. Do you want me to come down now? And [10:46] are we going to go through all the pictures first? I should Yeah. What do you think's better? Yeah, if you want to join us. [10:52] Okay, great. All right, you'll announce I have Yes. Wonderful. Do you want the microphone? [10:58] Um, she's not maybe speaking as much. I'll let But um we will end up doing [11:05] photos of everybody. So, I think we'll do all the award winners. We'll give all these out and then we'll have all the award winners come up and do a group [11:11] photo. Does that work or you want to do it by category? Nope. This sounds great. One big group photo by category or is the whole entire [11:18] group? We could do a group photo at the end. Great. So, starting off in our abstract category, we have Rocket Ship by Greg [11:24] Mezer. [Applause] [11:35] In second place, we have Battle Creek Ice by Liz Hegström. [Applause] [11:46] And in third place, we have An Icy Reflection by Steven Msel. [Applause] [11:56] In our people category, in first place we have to Wherever the road goes by Michael Ambient. [12:02] [Applause] [12:09] In second place, we have Royal V Raptors by Paul Quinn. [12:15] [Applause] In third place, we have Forever Young by [12:22] Laurianne Pearson. [12:28] In our pets category, we have Here's Looking at You Kit by Nora Fraia Nelly. [12:39] Welcome, Chica. Welcome. It's very cute. In second place, we have In the Bushes [12:46] by Julie Joyce. [Applause] [12:53] In third place, we have Let It Snow by Lynette Becker. [Applause] [13:02] And an honorable mention, Enzo Speaks by Lorie Stagger. [Applause] [13:12] That's the hamster I inherited when my daughter went to college. This is still alive. [13:20] This is a perfect [13:26] in our places category. In first place, we have Hanging on at Woodbury Days by Kent Nye. [13:37] In second place, we have The Golden City by Joseph Schumacher. [Applause] [13:47] And in third place, we have The Barn by Reagan Davis. [Applause] [13:56] And an honorable mention, Morning List Lake Mist by Jane Anderson. [14:02] [Applause] [14:07] This is Carver. Carver. Beautiful. In our seasons category, in first place [14:14] we have A Frigid Winter Horizon by Joseph Schumacher. [Applause] [14:22] In second place we have Cotton Candy Skies by Kaylee Stagger. [14:33] In third place, we have Where the Light Lingers by Michael Ambient. [Applause] [14:41] Do they same day or different day? Different days. [14:47] And an honorable mention, Harvest of Flowers by Roberto Welp. [14:56] In our wildlife category, in first place, we have Backyard Bee by Greg Mezer. [15:01] [Applause] [15:08] In second place, we have Butterfly Magic by Steven Msel. [Applause] [15:17] And in third place, we have Forager of the Season by Olivia Costa. [15:22] [Applause] Oh my gosh. Does that live near you? [15:29] Uh, yeah. Neighborhood. [15:34] and an honorable mention, Good Morning Charlotte by Jane Anderson. [Applause] [15:46] And our reader choice winner is Sunrise Symphony by Janet Sparks. [15:57] Great. That is everyone. all the award winners to come up here and I'll have [16:02] city council stand behind and find your face. Everybody, all the award winners [16:08] come on up to [16:24] Sure. Do I do that? Is that better? We can squeeze together. Do we need to get [16:30] Yeah. Should we bring that to [16:45] Laura was blinking on that when I saw it. [16:51] Great job. [Applause] [17:10] It'll be fun to see those some of those photos used again in our promotional materials. So, I also want to point out [17:16] Ashley, you star in the scoop, which is found on our you on our YouTube channel. Or do you star in anything [17:22] else? I know we do all kinds of Well, um, we have an internal spotlight on series. [17:28] Okay. Microphone. Microphone. Oh, yeah. Uh, yeah, we have an internal spotlight [17:34] on series where I interview staff every month, which is great. And I've made a few appearances on our social media once [17:40] in a while. But yeah, the scoop is a fun way to share what's going on in the community. So, you haven't tuned in to the scoop, [17:46] tune in to our YouTube channel. See the scoop. You do it every week. Every month. Every month. Every month. The scoop. Lots of good [17:52] scoop going on in the city. Check it out for sure. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, the next special order business is [18:00] the presentation of the Minnesota Association of Government Communicators Northern Lights Award. And I think this [18:05] came this summer. It was very exciting. We've got an amazing team that does great work. And I want to bring up and [18:11] introduce Don Gore who is here from the Minnesota Association of Government Communicators Board to share more. Hi [18:19] Don. And I understand you are Gina's brother. Is this right? I'm so glad you said that. [18:26] Gina Core is now Gina. Gina McCormick. McCormick. That's right. Um and she's part of our community [18:32] development team. Has been for a long time on a planner. She's Yeah. So [18:37] I'm glad you said that so I have an excuse to relay that information. Yes. [18:42] She's probably watching. Hi Gina. Yeah, I hope so. Hi. Yeah. Uh-huh. Um, so hi, my name is Don Gore or uh [18:48] Gina McCormick's big brother. Um, I am delighted to be here to represent the board of the Minnesota Association of [18:55] Government Communicators. Uh, my job here tonight is to speak kindly and carry a big award. Uh, it's special [19:02] today because I get to carry two of them. Uh, I'll tell you a little bit about MAGC or the Minnesota Association [19:08] of Government Communicators because that's a mouthful. Uh we're a peer organization of professionals uh [19:14] representing all levels of government uh federal, state, regional, county, and local as well as nonprofits. Uh we exist [19:21] to improve public sector communications uh through various activities uh [19:26] including workshops, an annual conference, and our Northern Lights Awards where we share our best work. Uh [19:32] and I have to say that that was a very good day for Woodbury. Uh so Woodberry, [19:38] your logo includes a tree. Uh and that tree represents growth uh strength, [19:44] stability and propagation uh replicating those traits in new growth. Uh so it's [19:51] no secret that our workforce is getting younger in the communications field. Uh as a guy who qualifies for AAP [19:58] membership, uh I can tell you it's particularly true. Um and so to recognize that, uh MAGC added a new [20:06] communications professional award. uh it recognizes an outstanding new to the [20:11] field professional uh who demonstrates a promising future in the field of government communications. Uh so I want [20:18] to focus a little bit about what we learned about this incredible asset to your Sydney to your Sydney to your city [20:24] uh Ashley uh Bednar. Uh Ashley and this is directly from her uh uh the [20:32] nomination that she received. Uh Ashley quickly established herself as a dynamic and skilled communicator. She manages [20:38] the organization's LinkedIn account, contributes to social media planning, and leads the monthly internal newsletter, ensuring clear and engaging [20:45] messaging. There's a lot of good things to say here, so I'm going to try not to sound [20:50] like an auctioneer, uh, but I don't want to keep you here until 10:00. Uh, she facilitates the internal and external [20:57] websites, uh, one of the project management team members for the Woodbury language access plan, helping create a [21:03] new phase of accessibility, uh, for the city of Woodbury. And I will tell you as a communications professional, there is [21:09] nothing that is more important to me than accessibility. Uh it allows voices to have uh it allows people to have [21:15] voices uh at tables where they normally would not. So that is a profound impact. Uh her event coordination work [21:22] demonstrates her ability to bring people together, strengthen community connections. Uh beyond technical [21:27] expertise, uh Ashley excels in both oral and written communication, hosting workshops on presentation skills and [21:34] best practices. Uh she also spearheads Woodbury Learns and sits on multiple [21:39] project teams. Uh she coordinates two video series for the uh city which we [21:44] already spoke about uh the internal video highlighting staff and coordinates and stars in the monthly news video [21:51] scoop. Uh so when we talk about those things I I see dedication, versatility and [21:57] leadership. Uh clearly a standout candidate uh and one who embodies that growth and evolution that I spoke about. [22:04] Uh so if you would please give me uh your cooperation in offering congratulations to Ashley Bedar, [22:11] recipient of the new communications professional award. [22:18] [Music] [22:29] Thank you. Thanks. Okay. So now I get to talk more uh about the amazing speech [22:35] after that. Is that not part of the requirements? Shel will be sweet. [22:41] Make a video. The scoop. Next issue of the scoop. Uh so uh as [22:50] communications professionals, we operate largely behind the scenes. Uh when it's bad, everyone sees us. Uh when it's [22:56] excellent, it's invisible to everyone outside that circle. Uh when we look for [23:01] communicator of the year, uh we look for that invisibility, that lack of drama or appearance. Uh and once we have a chance [23:08] to peek behind that curtain, uh we look for someone who shapes what comes next. Uh someone who not only exemplifies the [23:15] principles of clear, open, honest communication, uh but someone who [23:20] influences future communications professionals. Propagation. [23:26] uh as someone who teaches several classes uh I value uh the impact uh that [23:32] sharing the resource of experience is uh we develop ourselves by stealing small [23:38] bits of those we admire and incorporating them into who we are. Uh so I'll speak a little bit about the [23:44] wealth that you have uh in Shelley Schaefer. Uh Shelley and this again is directly [23:50] from her nomination. Uh Shelley exemplifies outstanding leadership and communication, creating a lasting impact [23:56] on both her department, the city of Woodbury staff, and the larger community. She's the driving force [24:02] behind the four Woodbury community relations pillars, and has ensured a clear and consistent vision for her [24:07] team. Shelley played a key role in organizing Woodbury, a celebration of inclusivity, [24:14] and continues to champion efforts uh that bring the community together. Uh her advocacy extends beyond Woodbury. uh [24:21] traveling to Washington DC with the mayor u uh to lobby on behalf of Woodbury's residents. Uh she expertly [24:29] leads project management team setting standards that have influence on others. Uh she has a meticulous eye for oral and [24:36] written communications. She not only refineses messaging but supports her colleagues, always available to [24:41] strengthen and guide their language. a natural speaker and an exceptional writer, Shelley's commitment to [24:47] community engagement solidifies her as an incredible pillar of Woodbury. Uh so again, I'll revisit those traits I [24:54] spoke of. Growth, stability, strength, propagation. You have that here in your [25:00] communications professionals. Uh and it's a bountiful harvest. Uh if I can keep with that theme, uh one you'll be [25:07] able to draw on again. So, please join me again in ordering in offering uh [25:12] hearty congratulations to Shelley Schaefer for winning communicator of the year. [25:20] [Music] Is Yeah. Is Okay. Can you just Is this [25:27] just a Minnesota thing? Is it just a Okay. But it is all of Minnesota. [25:33] Yes. Uh we've been around since the 80s. So, it's established and we, you know, sure we have eyes on maybe creating more [25:40] of a Midwest Association of Government Communicators. So, okay. Who knows? But outstanding. Okay. Did you want to [25:46] picture just the couple of you and then I'm going to speak after this. Okay. Good. Okay. Good. Good. As you [25:52] should since you're since you're a professional communicator. And then um and then if you Shelly, if [25:59] you want a picture with city c want your team up, city council. Okay. love the [26:04] team to get a picture with council after this, but uh I that's a hard act to follow. Thank you so much, Don, uh for [26:12] for being here tonight and thank you to council. Um it is truly an honor to be up here and accepting the awards from [26:18] the Minnesota Association of Government Communicators. Um these are some of the best professionals in the business and [26:25] it is I was just completely humbled and honored to be able to uh receive the award of communicator of the year. I was [26:32] also equally as excited to have Ashley Bednar recognized as the new uh [26:38] communications professional award. But more than that, I am so deeply and [26:43] incredibly proud of the entire community relations team. Um they have such [26:50] creativity and innovation and uh keep doing their work so well to communicate [26:56] to our community um and keep them informed and engaged. Um, I want to acknowledge uh along with Ashley and [27:03] myself, we have Jason Edgarstrom, uh, senior communication or senior community relations coordinator, Genesis Sedith, [27:11] community relations coordinator, and Sam Verdict, uh, community relations technician. The team puts their heart [27:18] and soul into all of the work that they do. And um I am so excited to announce [27:23] that not only did we receive these two awards at Magic, but we the team as a whole received three more. And so I just [27:30] want to take a moment and acknowledge those three um which were community focused projects including the Northern [27:36] Lights Award um for the Mr. Richards video. So if you've seen that, that was [27:41] for our public works story with this beautiful connection that he had with a three-year-old. Um every summer he comes [27:49] with his tractor. Um, we received a silver award for the engineers read your traffic messages which was in the [27:56] category of best in humor. Uh, so we had Chris had a story roll. [28:02] Yes, Chris is in there. We had some of our engineers read um in the likeness of [28:07] mean tweets some of the the comments on construction. But it was a great opportunity to make light of ourselves [28:13] as well as sharing the message of thanking the community for their patience. Um and then we received the [28:18] silver award uh for one Woodbury and the category for that was DEI advancement in our community and that was just a a [28:26] project near and dear to my heart to work on creating and fostering an inclusive and welcoming community. Um so [28:32] the team is always looking for uh new and exciting ways to tell our story and [28:38] the stories of our community. And yes, Council Member Morris, we're looking for ways to incorporate more humor, too. We [28:44] will keep working towards that. Um but I would be remiss if I didn't also acknowledge the collaboration that we [28:50] have with True Lens Community Media. They are such talented um professionals [28:56] in terms of helping us tell the story. We have a vision and they bring that vision to life and uh we are just so [29:02] grateful for them. So I just wanted to thank council for your support of our work. Um thank the incredible team and [29:10] uh it's just a joy to work with them. It is an absolute honor to work in the city I I live in, work for the city I love, [29:16] and work for just an an incredible organization. And so I thank Don and I thank Magic for the recognition and um [29:24] appreciate it. So congratulations. [29:31] Okay. Do you want to bring your team up? Yes. And council rise. [29:49] Okay. Wait, was some of We haven't seen some of these. Are these the other three plaques you got? Okay. They go everywhere with their awards. [29:56] Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. [30:06] One, two, three. [30:14] Congratulations. [Applause] [30:20] Keep up the good work, too. We appreciate all that you do. So does the community. [30:26] Okay, we will now um do we have any open forum sheets? I don't see any. And [30:32] Ashley, are you noticing anything online there? Doesn't look like it. Okay, then we'll [30:37] just move on to the consent agenda. All items listed under the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city [30:44] council and will be enacted by one motion and an affirmative vote by roll call of the majority of the members [30:49] present. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a council member or citizens so request in [30:54] which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered a subject sub separate subject of [31:00] discussion by the council. Uh because I just read that I always then turn to our live audience and say do you want [31:05] anything removed from the consent agenda? And that's exactly what I get back. [31:11] And then I always turn to Ashley and see if anyone online wants anything and they don't. So now I turn to councel. Council, anybody remove? If not, uh, put [31:18] forth a motion, please. Make a motion to approve the Senate [31:23] agenda items 6A through 6F as presented. I'll second. [31:29] Motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, the roll call, please. [31:35] Council member Morris, I. Council member Santini, I. Council member Stafford, I. Council member Wilson, [31:40] I. Mayor Bert, I. Those consent agenda items pass. We now have a couple of public hearings [31:47] tonight. Looks like one, two, three. Um, do we have any green sheets yet for public hearings? Because I see people in [31:54] the audience. Maybe you're here just to listen and learn. If there's no green sheets, anybody online? All right. I [32:00] won't read all the detail then. But just know that we will open the hearing. When the hearing is open, we have a [32:06] presentation. There's an opportunity. If you want to say something or anyone online, please uh put that request in on [32:12] the green sheet or on the online thing. Otherwise, uh, if we get nothing from the public, we close the hearing and [32:18] then we leave it open to council to discuss. So, I'll now turn, um, over to Janelle Schmidtz, who's here to talk [32:23] about the first item, which is the Huntington National Bank proposal. Thank you, mayor, members of the city [32:30] council. Allegro civil engineers have submitted an application for a conditional use permit and site and [32:36] building plan review for a new financial institution to be called Huntington National Bank. The property is located [32:44] at 525 Commons Drive, which is at the southeast corner of the intersection of [32:49] Hudson Road and Commons Drive. There's currently a building on the property, which was originally approved by the [32:54] council in May of 1991 as a farmer's insurance um claims office. I believe [33:01] there have been several uses of the current building since then, but I believe it is currently vacant. The [33:06] property is zoned B2 u general business and guided as places to shop on the land [33:11] use plan. Banks with drive-throughs are classified [33:16] as a conditional use in the B2 district. SAP staff has prepared a resolution for [33:22] council consideration that addresses the required findings of fact for conditional use permits. The applicant [33:28] is proposing to remove the existing building and build a new 5200 square foot building. The financial [33:35] institutions are required of a parking ratio of one stall for every 200 square feet and the applicant is proposing 26 [33:43] stalls which meets that requirement. One of the conditions of approval is that the angled parking um on the south end [33:50] would be reserved for employee parking. So that would minimize those vehicle conflicts with the primary um drive [33:57] access for the drive-through lanes. The applicant will be using the existing [34:02] access points on Commons Drive. The northern access, which is that red star, [34:07] will be the main access with two-way traffic and the existing one-way access on the south side, which is the blue [34:14] star, will can be will be converted from an exit only to an entrance only um and [34:19] to provide dedicated access to the drive-thru lanes and the tellers on around the excuse me, around the [34:25] building. There will be on-site signage that will direct traffic in this regard. There is adequate uh stacking provided [34:33] also in the drive-thru. You can see that indicated on the site plan as well. And then the applicant is proposing to [34:39] construct a a trail which is shown on that kind of purple dashed line within the city rightway from Hudson Road to [34:46] the south of the to Hudson though excuse me Hudson Road South to the first access [34:51] point of the lifetime fitness um which will facilitate pedestrian access along Commons Drive. This road currently has [34:59] no pedestrian infrastructure. The remaining would be um um done if there's [35:04] ever any improvements at lifetime or when the city goes in and updates um Commons Drive. The sidewalk would be [35:10] extended um from the trail into the site which is noted by the green dashed line. [35:18] Um in regard to snow storage, the applicant has submitted a snow storage plan for the property. Get my own slide down. [35:24] Yeah. Um, and that's shown by the blue shaded areas identified where the snow would be [35:30] stored on the site. In regard to landscaping, the applicant [35:36] is proposing to install 12 trees, 72 shrubs, and numerous perennials. They [35:41] will be preserving four trees, um, and removing eight trees from the site. The [35:47] green boxes show where they will be adding lowle low-level snow tolerant [35:52] planting plantings to screen adjacent properties from and roadways from the impacts of the headlights from the bank [35:58] drive-thru. So those are kind of around the perimeter of the site. In terms of architecture, the existing [36:05] seasons commons PUD calls for architectural consistency between the buildings. The applicant is proposing to [36:12] use a cream brick that's complimentary to the lifetime fitness building to the south um with some gray or dark dark [36:19] gray um compro complimentary brick as well. The zoning ordinance requires [36:25] commercial buildings to have 65% class one brick glass and stone. This building [36:30] is 93% class one. There's a brick soldier Course on all of the elevations, [36:36] large windows adjacent to the major roads and some contrasting brick element. Um there is some corporate [36:42] identify identity with the green color over the um entrance area. [36:49] We do have our planning commission representative Marshia Kennedy is here. The planning commission did review it on [36:55] October 20th. Great. The I should note also the applicant is in the off the audience if anybody has [37:01] questions. Great. Welcome, Commissioner Kennedy. [37:12] Thank you, Mayor Bert. Council members, um we did review the Huntington Bank [37:18] applicant. Um here are a few of our talking points for the fencing. Um [37:23] fencing in the area between the two access points and also on the northwest corner. Um it's an 18inch metal fence [37:30] that will be installed for safety so people don't accidentally walk into that area behind that. Um and so uh they were [37:37] focused on the materials of that fence. The energy efficiency will be increased [37:42] from the current building um to include windows class one materials and LED [37:48] lighting. Um the lighting we talked about specifically um the effect on the nearby residential area. Um, and now [37:56] they have H hallogen lightings, excuse me, but LED is impo is proposed and will [38:02] all um as all of the new buildings do now facing downward and and covered. So, [38:08] they were really sensitive to that. uh the walking path. Every one of us loved the walking path and it will be [38:15] constructed to the first access point of course by Lifetime Fitness, but in the future future plans um perhaps to extend [38:22] it all the way to the front of Lifetime Fitness and the timing of the construction of the trail was a small [38:28] focus. Um staff is going to work with the applicant to ensure timely um [38:34] completion of that um walking path. Um the parking the the condition that we [38:40] included in the um in the motion was construction parking needs to be kept on [38:46] site so that that doesn't spill out into the surrounding area. Um the traffic was [38:51] was not um problem especially the focus was on the that commons drive will be [38:57] striped in the future to help the the flow of that [39:02] and um the plantings. One of the commissioners suggested, planning commission commissioners suggested that [39:08] they specify the evergreen shrubs to be included in the low plantings um just to [39:14] have a little more year round purpose. And um they wanted the applicant to beef [39:20] up the landscaping to put back some of what is there now. And I believe they've already included those changes into the [39:26] the reports. And then snow removal. Having lived 30 years in Arizona, um I [39:33] wanted to make sure that none of the parking stalls were going to be um [39:38] included in the snow removal. Even though I grew up in Minnesota, coming back was a new awakening. And so we [39:46] moved to approve um uh combining condition conditions 17 and 22 on the [39:52] staff report about snow removal. um and prior to the issuance of the building permit construction, staging and parking [40:00] shall be reviewed and and approved. And then there was an amendment to condition three to include the evergreen shrubs. [40:07] So, okay, great. Thank you very much. Uh does is the applicant wanting to say [40:12] anything? No. No. Okay. All right. And I still [40:17] have no green sheets, nobody online. So, I'm going to make a motion that we close the hearing. Second. Motion a second. Any further discussion? [40:23] Hearing none. All in favor? I Okay, it's we are closed and now we'll open it up to council members for [40:30] questions or comments. I did not. Okay. I just have one [40:35] question. Could you go back to the tree removal and just so um let me just grab my bearings. [40:44] So the so that's the two-way. I'm sorry. That's the This is right here. This is the two-way. [40:49] That's the two-way. And then the lower part is the one way in. And the green boxes are where they're [40:55] removing the trees. No, the green boxes indicate where the low um shrubbery, some perennial, some [41:02] greenery because um they would shield some of the headlights. People are stack stacking in here. [41:07] Yeah. And so we've got some residents on the east side. Okay. Because there's there is a a a lot [41:13] of tree between the current building and the residence. And all those trees will remain. [41:20] I think these two, mayor and council, there are a [41:25] significant amount of vegetation on that shared property line. Some of the trees on the subject property will be removed, [41:33] but the majority of those trees are on the adjacent residential property. The [41:38] planning commission reviewed this and the green box that's shown on the screen will actually extend a little bit further to the north to ensure where you [41:45] can see a little bit of that that bulge in that area. Those are the construction limits to ensure that that area is [41:52] replanted to ensure that there is coverage for lights and vehicles within [41:58] the the uh drive-through lane. Okay. So, as they're even as they're coming in, I just want to make sure that [42:03] as they're entering in the drive-thru that that's because people enter into those things all hours of that is correct. [42:08] Yeah. Okay. That was my only concern. Anybody else? I had a question on uh [42:14] condition seven and I thought we had addressed this in a in a previous um in a previous [42:20] application and that's the use of the requirement of wood on the trash enclosures. I thought we had adjusted [42:26] that to be materials is approved by by staff. Yeah, we have interpreted that condition to include wood or superior materials. [42:33] In this case, superior materials include composite and other materials. Correct. I just that does that need to be called out or changed because it does [42:39] say wood specifically. I mean, we don't I don't essentially I don't want to require the wood because wood requires upkeep. [42:46] Mayor Council, I think staff would be supportive of instead of the term wooden, maybe approved material. There [42:51] you go. Approved material gates. Yeah, there you go. And then I had a question on the trail. [42:58] So, I kept reading through the conditions and I still don't see where that trail [43:03] is is either in the conditions of approval. It's just part of the building plan, but it's not not called out. And [43:10] the reason that that keeps coming to mind is because it extends off the property. And so there's I'm assuming a [43:16] a access agreement that needed to be ex needs to be executed between the property owners etc. And do we have [43:22] comfort from a staff level that confirmation that that's been executed so this can be completed because what [43:28] happens if we approve this and then they don't execute that and then we don't get a trail. Uh very fair question uh council member. [43:34] The proposed pedestrian improvement is located within the right of way. [43:40] So we would not need to have adjacent pedest all the way to the south in front of the it's included rightway so we can [43:46] that is correct. Okay. Is that the right answer? [43:51] I think part of your question too is should there be a condition that calls out the construction of that trail as a [43:57] material condition? Well, it's required. It's in the building building 23. Yeah, pardon. Isn't 23? [44:05] They'll obtain the rightaway permit to construct the trail connection from road to the CL. What 23 are you looking at? My 23 is [44:11] land disturbance and demolition permit. Any commission the new one? [44:17] Sorry. You mean the revised 7A. Hey, thanks for that. [44:24] That's why we're a team. It's team. I just want to say five of us. In my [44:31] defense, we didn't get this one until 4:00 this afternoon. So, um yeah, but Jen managed it. [44:36] No defense. Just saying. Um I do want to say I do I I think these are just such great um [44:43] reuse when develop, you know, just so it's obviously we do so a lot of new [44:48] stuff, but it's great to see a lot like this with a building that [44:54] truthfully at one point I had to look it up to go, what is that building anyway? So, I just think it's a great use um [45:00] finding a location, approving it. So, yeah, just building off that trailer, it do we [45:06] have a a width requirement and is that someplace in there? Because I know [45:12] sometimes we do eight, sometimes we do 10. The proposed trail is 8 ft in width. [45:19] And um I don't remember hearing anything about neighborhood meeting. How what was because you do have homes very nearby. [45:26] So, there was a neighborhood meeting in the in the staff report on September 23rd. I [45:31] don't have any notes as to whether there were any residents there. I believe the residents to the east are rental uh [45:38] properties, so we tend to not get a lot of residents for that. I can confirm there were not any residents in attendance. [45:44] Okay. There were not I'm sorry, say that again. We're not. Okay. No, no property owners in attendance. Thank you. Nope. [45:52] But just to clarify, the the the mailings are sent to residents, not [45:57] necessarily property owners or they're sent to property owners. The mailings are sent to property owners. [46:03] Okay. Because we get the list from the county. We don't have an access to the list of [46:10] the residents. Oh, I see. Yeah. So, none of them received anything anyways. That that is correct. [46:16] Okay. So unless the property owner would share it with a restor [46:21] Yeah. posted in a common area. Yeah. Things of that nature. Yeah. [46:26] Okay. Anything else? Skip ahead to the end. There's two [46:31] motions, I'm guessing. Yeah. I'll move to adopt a motion approving the conditional use permit uh via [46:38] resolution 25-174, a resolution adopting findings of fact. [46:43] Second motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll call, [46:48] please. Council member Santini. I. Council member Stafford. I. Council member Wilson. [46:54] Hi. Council member Morris. Hi. Mayor Bert. I. That passes. And then I will move uh to adopt a [47:00] motion approving the Huntington National Bank site and building plan project number 04-2025-0000584. [47:08] All subject to the conditions outlined in the supplemental council letter 25-245 [47:14] and as amended. And as amended. Second. [47:19] That's a motion, a second. Any further discussion? Hear none. Roll call, please. Council member Stafford. [47:24] I. Council member Wilson. I. Council member Morris. I. Council member Santini. I. Mayor Bert. [47:30] I. That passes. Congratulations on the project. Can you just Thank you. What's the timing? Are you are you [47:37] demolition starts tomorrow or not quite that soon? I think it'll take, you know, eight weeks to do construction documents and [47:44] then submit for permit and then you guys will review them in like two days, of course. Yep. Yep. Yep. [47:51] So, you hope to open sometime in 2026. Yeah. Okay. Very excited. [47:56] Yeah. Great. Terrific. Thank you. Um Okay. We'll now move on to our next [48:02] um open hearing and this is the consideration of approval of Champions Hall and uh the hearing is now open and [48:08] Eric will share about this project. Thank you mayor, members of council. Arco Murray has submitted an application [48:14] for a conditional use permit for a commercial recreation use over 5,000 [48:20] square ft. The applicant is proposing to construct the facility at 11435 [48:26] Hudson Road. That's in our northeast business park area. and the application includes an approximately 238,000 [48:33] ft² commercial recreation use. In May of 2022, the council did approve the [48:40] approximately 475,000 ft I94 logistics building that's on the south side of Hudson Road as shown on [48:47] the screen. That project was a speculative commercial development with anticipated uses at that time of [48:53] e-commerce and distribution, warehouse, and light industrial. The proposed building received a certificate of [49:00] occupancy in December of 2023 and remains vacant today. [49:06] The application in front of you this evening is again for a commercial recreation use within the places to work [49:12] land use allowing commercial recreation uses through the conditional use permit process has occurred on many occasions [49:19] within the city but it is appropriate to review the findings of fact for each item. the uses um are uh spread out from [49:29] the 1970s all the way to uh 2025. It's also important to note that the uh over [49:36] the last several years commercial recreation uses have also been provided within uh smaller footprints 5,000 [49:44] square feet or less as a permitted use within the places to work land use. [49:50] Champion Hall proposes a large multi-purpose indoor sports, fitness, and event complex. And I'll walk through [49:57] some of the activities on the site plan here. On the left hand side are the hardcourt surfaces. Those will be for [50:04] volleyball and basketball and other hard surface. There is a need within the community for those types of activities. [50:12] There is a not quite full-size soccer turf facility as well as some training. [50:17] And on the far right hand side are three uh lacrosse training fields as part of [50:24] the proposal in front of you. The graphic on the screen identifies the [50:30] proposed divide of the facility. The existing building was again built without tenants in mind and was designed [50:37] to attract those e-commerce or distribution uses. That is the reason for the significant parking along the [50:42] northern portion. other types of uses such as light industrial and warehouse have less of a parking need than those [50:50] uh than e-commerce uses. So, it is appropriate to look at the existing facility and try to accommodate and [50:56] identify a use that's going to activate those parking fields. The original marketing goal of the building was to [51:04] identify a single tenant or two tenants within this space. As the building does remain vacant two years after uh the [51:12] approval, uh it is appropriate in staff's opinion to look at strategies to [51:18] uh incentivized activation of this space and historically the city has used zoning [51:24] flexibility as our first tool. Many other communities have used financial incentives such as tax abatement or tiff. We have selected zoning [51:30] flexibility as our initial and that has served the community very well. The proposed commercial recreation use also [51:36] allows the building to pursue smaller tenants within that future tenant space. Those uses can now be likely 50 to [51:43] 100,000 square ft and will likely allow for quicker absorption of that space. A [51:50] traffic review was conducted as part of the application to review the change in use and I will not go through the [51:57] findings of that traffic study. A detailed summary was provided within the planning commission staff report, but I [52:02] will summarize that the uh traffic study did not identify additional roadway [52:08] improvements uh necessary to accommodate the additional traffic demands that are [52:14] anticipated for Champions Hall. Parking for the site uh is located along [52:20] in the northern portion of the site within the green area. There are 324 [52:26] parking spaces within this location. That is a parking ratio of one stall per [52:31] 734 square feet, which is a lower ratio or more parking available than recently [52:37] approved ratios for other commercial recreation facilities within the community such as Easy Pickle Ball, [52:42] which is located just to the north. staff and the city's traffic consultant reviewed the peak times within the [52:49] traffic study, the time of day when most vehicles and most overlap will occur within the facility, and have concluded [52:56] that at that max time, the max number of vehicles is anticipated to be 300 [53:01] vehicles. That's at the max time on site at one time. In conversations with the [53:06] applicant, it's anticipated that that will happen very infrequently because they will need to stagger their times [53:11] internally to allow for effective operations and activities within the [53:17] facility. But if it were to occur, the site is designed and does have adequate parking to support that activity as well [53:24] as events and weekend activities where we have seen peak uh traffic volume [53:29] occur. The final area of review is the architecture that's necessary. Overall, [53:35] there are not significant modifications to building outside of what you're seeing on the screen. And this is again a rooftop view. And the proposal here is [53:43] to in order to remove the columns within the building, an exterior joist system [53:48] is necessary. And so there is uh exterior joists that are proposed here. Uh, Commissioner [53:55] Kennedy will identify some of the conversations regarding this at the planning commission, but uh, I will [54:01] share that city staff had a lot of discussions on whether this element should be screened. And when we looked [54:06] at that from a standpoint of screening, we felt that that would actually add more mass and bring more attention than [54:12] the exterior choice. Planning Commission had what I think is a good recommendation as well. I will not steal [54:17] Commissioner Kennedy's thunder and instead I will turn it over to Commissioner Kennedy for the Planning Commission liazison report. And just [54:23] real quick to be clear, this is uh Hudson Road is in the foreground and we're looking southward. [54:28] That is correct. Thank you, Mr. Sles. Mayor, commission, [54:35] uh council members, um do you want me to cut right to the chase? [54:41] Okay. Um the uh Joyce did uh hand they [54:47] were comprising the largest part of our discussion. The the bottom line is that one of the commissioners recommended [54:53] that we take a p page out of the Disney Playhouse and paint them light blue or [54:58] gray to coordinate with the sky. And that actually seemed like the most reasonable um recommendation to us. [55:07] You're all stunned. Was that become a condition? Yes, there was a condition of approval that added that does have staff approve [55:14] the ultimate color of those this. Okay. So it isn't it isn't necessarily it'll be painted by the sky [55:19] the color of the sky but you will review that is correct. So I would almost think something like black that would maybe be [55:25] less noticeable but guess it'll be in the light dark grayish gray. We had the same conversation with Top [55:32] Golf if you remember correctly. The polls the polls. Yeah. Okay. [55:40] Perspective. It's all about the perspective. Um um some of the discussion about the joist also included [55:47] um their what the material was and they will be steel material um whether to [55:52] specify how they are created. One of the engineers wanted to to um float the idea [55:57] about whether they're welded or pre-made and one piece. Um uh so they really um [56:04] as Mr. said in our meeting the joists are not really rooftop mechanical because there is a a requirement for the [56:12] screening of rooftop mechanical. However, these are part of the structure because of the change over from the [56:18] current building to the the new building. So due to the height um the screening was determined as you said to [56:25] be more visible it than if they were not screened. We also discussed the gates in the [56:31] parking area. There are two gates there. They're going to be coordinated with the future use of the southern area of the [56:38] building to enhance traffic flow once that um perhaps is developed a little [56:43] bit more. Excuse me. Noise and lighting are not a real concern because of the the sports activity will be inside the [56:50] building. Um there were questions on the actual size of the building since um uh [56:56] that area is limited to no more than 50% of the for commercial recreational and [57:02] Mr. Sorls um assured us that even if they had to measure the inside of the building, it would match meet the [57:09] building requirements, the footage requirements. So that's 238,000. [57:14] Regarding um the last question that I thought was uh really noteworthy was, [57:19] excuse me, regarding how this particular space fits into the marketplace versus [57:25] two years ago since the staff report states that conditions have changed in [57:30] those two years. And so there was there was good discussion about that. Um and [57:36] uh market conditions for a single large footprint e-commerce or distribution you [57:42] user has changed in the past two years. And so that's why this was recommended. [57:48] The planning commission moved to approve this project with the condition of specifying a color for the rooftop [57:55] joists. Um can you talk what are the dimensions of that? Do you have the dimensions on [58:00] the rooftop or is that a question for Eric? They look kind of big. Yeah, there there is some height to [58:06] those. I'll have the applicant provide the specific height details of the [58:12] additional joist, but there is some height to them. Yes. [58:17] Oh, from that angle. Yeah. Mhm. Hi, council members. Uh my name is [58:22] Garrett Farmer. I'm a representative of the of the landlord. Uh the spec the estimated height is roughly 18 to 20 ft [58:29] of those joists and they're built around that is the four corners if we Eric do you have [58:36] a interior photo of that to maybe show the soccer turf. So right that splits the two fields that [58:42] there's a fullsize regulation turf on the left and the recreational turf on the right. That'll be the supporting [58:48] column and then the trusses will go off that supporting column each way. So, they're all custom made and they're all [58:54] one piece. Um, the four outside corners will be the have to be beefed up columns [59:00] to then allow for the interior columns to be removed. I think it's 360 ft if I'm not mistaken [59:06] from end to end. And you have to build them on the first 53 foot column from [59:11] the outside walls. You can't set these on the walls themselves just for those walls are specifically designed for wind [59:19] loads and snow loads to support the original structure and not any additional structures. So we had to [59:24] bring them in um at least one column space. [59:29] Okay. But they have not been built yet. These would be custom f probably the largest [59:34] in the Midwest. Okay. That's really fascinating. I'm no engineer. It's wild to think how that [59:41] works. Just like a bridge, right? Building a bridge. It's just wild. Building something on top of the roof to [59:46] hold the roof. To hold the roof, right? Exactly. Adding more weight. We don't intend to disrupt the existing roof structure. These will sit on top [59:52] and be supported. So all the interior roof will look the exact same. Yeah. Okay. So [59:58] great. Thank you. Um I don't see any more green. There's no green sheets. Are [1:00:03] there any green sheets? No. Anything online? Okay. Then I make a motion that we close the hearing. Second. Motion. Second. Any further discussion? [1:00:10] Hearing none. All in favor? I I Okay, the hearing is closed. I'll open it up to uh council members. I'll start [1:00:16] with my first question. So, the material of that um scaffolding structure is [1:00:21] steel, painted steel. That is correct. Okay. How do we prevent painted steel from rusting and not looking rusty and [1:00:27] icky after a couple years? We do have condition of approval number four to ensure that that does uh [1:00:33] identify that the structure must remain free of peeling, rust, faded paint or [1:00:38] other property maintenance concerns. It is a concern that it could happen. We have mechanisms to correct it. Okay, great. [1:00:48] I have some questions. First of all, I'm very excited for this. I have like um [1:00:55] Mr. Shirles. No, I'm like, we need something big in Woodbury just like [1:01:00] this. And let's talk. One, two, three, four, five, six. I can't see. One, two, three. Is there eight? [1:01:08] Seven. Are those full-size basketball courts in like they're like they're regular they're that is unbelievable. [1:01:14] Yep. The understanding would be these would be allow for fullsize basketball and fulls size volleyball activities. [1:01:19] Okay. Um when when do you expect something like [1:01:25] this would open? [1:01:36] if you could just start with your name and who you represent for the record. Thank you. Probably done this before. [1:01:42] My name is Lachu Costadino and I'm representing the Champions Hall. Um I'm [1:01:47] a resident of Woodbury and I live probably a mile away from the future [1:01:53] Huntington Bank and this place would be three and a half miles away from my [1:01:58] house. I run one of the biggest soccer training corporation groups here in the [1:02:05] state of Minnesota in upper Midwest and uh we go and train everywhere else but [1:02:12] not in Woodbury. The reason why you have only one facility and it's always booked. Uh I [1:02:18] also coach Eastrich High School girls. I'm the head coach there. Took the job a couple years ago. Uh, and uh, a couple [1:02:26] months, a few months ago, uh, Garrett and Dwayne from the building called me up and said, "Well, we have a building [1:02:32] for you. I've been looking for a place to build." And I said, "Sure, why don't we look at it?" And it's amazing. It [1:02:39] looks big on a plan. You're talking about the structure and stuff with it, but when you go inside, you just go, [1:02:46] "Wow, that that's how big it is." So, we started exploring the options. What can [1:02:52] we do with this? And uh this will be arguably the biggest recreational [1:02:59] facility in the upper Midwest. It's not going to be just Minnesota. You want to see big. [1:03:05] Uh the one that is down in Iowa, the reclex is 230,000 square ft with the [1:03:11] outdoor space and a hockey rings. We're going to have seven basketball courts out there. we can turn this into 14 [1:03:19] volleyball courts in addition to all the services that we're going to use there will be for a multisports so will be [1:03:26] basketball volleyball foot and I want to show you something that it's unique and [1:03:32] you can see if you just squish it you see the phone I do [1:03:39] everybody pass it around so this will be the material that will [1:03:45] be put on a basketball course and will help out with all the knee injury and [1:03:51] stuff like that because that's where you go into the gambo is if you put a core that is good for the basketball. [1:03:58] It's not going to be the same quality for volleyball. Yeah. That fits it in because it's it's hard [1:04:05] but at the same time it's perfect for your body. And I'll show you something else is even the Vikings place doesn't [1:04:12] have it. This is the turf that we're looking at now. capacity. [1:04:17] Okay. So, that will give us [1:04:22] the G max rating which is the highest rating for shock absor absorption. [1:04:30] Uh now with surface like this you can have a professional teams coming in a [1:04:36] training indoors. Would the women's US soccer team actually approve of this surface? Yes. Well, [1:04:41] they always complain they never get the good. So the thing is and I'm not going to doesn't say here that that's going to happen out [1:04:49] there. But I know that the federations are looking to bring the World Cup in a [1:04:55] state. Uh US rugby federation is trying to bring the World Cup in the states as [1:05:01] well. Well, when was the last time that we had something big going in Minnesota? [1:05:06] Mhm. we can help with this and we already had the talks with with some people from the [1:05:12] state of Minnesota that we can back that thing up there and by saying this is the biggest building. It is the biggest building. It's bigger than the National [1:05:18] Sports Center. The National Sports Center does not have in one place they have fields, they have some basketball [1:05:25] courts but everything is spread out. This is everything is right in there. Uh and actually the our first goal is uh [1:05:33] probably you guys are aware but the USA games that are next summer the olymp [1:05:40] special Olympic games if we can get it done by that time we hope [1:05:45] that we're the backup option for players athletes to come in and train indoors [1:05:51] again where Minnesota you never know it's beautiful out there and then all of a sudden oh crap okay comes down So, um [1:05:59] that's why um we're hoping that we'll be part of that event as well. So, but [1:06:06] yeah, we you have options to go and play. And speaking of I got to correct you there with this dimensions of the [1:06:12] soccer field. Um these are kind of broad and we fit in into the minimum size of [1:06:20] the soccer pitch that can be done out there. So that's why that's why we need to take some of those columns down and [1:06:27] make that field 110 yards out there to fit in with 7 yards [1:06:33] 65 yards wide and uh we will be in a good standing. The other thing is like I said I coaching [1:06:40] preseason games White Bear Lake. Why? Because we're gambling in a fall with [1:06:47] the weather and would we be able to use the grass fields? Mhm. all these teams can come in here [1:06:52] and play in this facility. Now we got more turf to offer. Um and then the last [1:06:58] thing that I want to bring it up this this is great for the kids for a community as well. All right. when when [1:07:05] we're talking about the events that we can bring in and I can compare the one that uh the the facility down in uh uh [1:07:12] Iowa in De Moines, they bring $47 million [1:07:18] a year to the city of De Moine. The city of De Moines pays $4 million [1:07:24] to the building forks in $4 million. So this building keeps going. The building [1:07:30] isn't a loss, but the money that they bring to the city on hotels, on restaurants, all these things. It's [1:07:36] amazing. And we can do the same thing. And we're not asking for any help from the city. We're looking into right now [1:07:42] we're at like $8.1 million investment into a building that is already there. [1:07:49] Wow. But the facil the building is perfect and the location is perfect and I live in Woodbury. [1:07:55] So, so can I I want to forward think then and I just want to uh So, are those um [1:08:01] bathrooms in the upper leftand corner? Plenty of So, you see a lots of empty [1:08:07] white space on the top. Yeah. And some on the bottom. So, we're going to have at least uh four dressing rooms. [1:08:14] We're going to have plenty of bathrooms. We're going to go off the coat after once when everything goes there. Then, obviously, there are restrictions how [1:08:20] close the bathrooms needs to be and stuff like that. But we're going to build up a dressing rooms. Okay. [1:08:26] So, that's another thing that it's not everywhere. It will be unique. [1:08:32] How about like a concession area? Are we going to have that with a concession? We just going to go with simple [1:08:37] small coffee bar, pizza. That's about it. We're not looking into doing the restaurants. We live in Woodbury. How [1:08:43] many restaurants are just right right down the street? Agreed. Right. So, um and what about um spectator stands? [1:08:51] Will there be any if you're going to have a tournament like if you're having your seven basketball courts or are [1:08:56] so though for the spectators we're going to have a row up bleachers out there. So but it's not going to you're not going [1:09:02] to be looking at a thousands of thousands of people going in there. It will be each bleacher fits in let's say [1:09:09] around what is it 25 30 people. So if you put them up on each court will be like no more than 50 60 people out there [1:09:16] when we do events like this. So great. I have to say when you first [1:09:22] started speaking I'm like you were my son's JV soccer coach at Easter so and I know you've coached a lot of and you [1:09:29] probably had my daughter at one point. Yeah probably no Bert what's his name? Killian Wilson. [1:09:36] You had him. You were very good to him. [1:09:41] Yes I was coaching back in the days a long time ago when East opened. Was it 2011 12? [1:09:48] It open. Yeah it opened in 2009. 2009. Yeah. So 2010 is when I got in [1:09:54] there. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We had a good time. Most of those kids and those kids now [1:10:00] they have their own kids. Uhhuh. Yeah. He has one. So yeah, there you go. Hey, I got a grandkid as well. She's [1:10:06] But that's great. Well, and I uh I love the [1:10:12] idea of what it does for, you know, for our DMO, destination market, destination Woodbury, destination marketing [1:10:17] organization, and bringing people to our community to uh shop and dine, spend money for a sales tax, and it's all [1:10:24] good. So, thank you. Any other questions for him at this point in time? Okay. And then I'll just again back to council [1:10:31] members for other further questions or comments. I just out of curiosity if let's say in the future some you know it [1:10:37] changes or whatever are those um Joyce are they able to ever be removed [1:10:43] like if you then redid the interior and you redid beams or would they just be something that I mean [1:10:48] I think you hypothetically could I don't I think what would occur in the future if this use were to grow and relocate [1:10:54] into an alternate location you would have new opportunities for different businesses that this is really unique [1:11:01] space now and I think there would be ample market for the high ceilings without [1:11:08] the columns. Gotcha. Just curious. Wow. Just building off of the beam situation because right next door to it [1:11:14] we have the affordable housing being built there. And so my question is how [1:11:20] the beams are 18 or 20 feet and and how tall is this building and what is that going to do to the um view of I can't [1:11:29] remember the layout of of that apartment complex next door. Yeah, you can see on [1:11:35] the air photo where the generally the buildings are in this location and this [1:11:40] location. So the majority of the units face in different directions. They do not overlook. There will be some units [1:11:47] that will overlook those units but the height of the buildings are are similar frankly. Um you will be looking not over [1:11:56] the units within the apartment complex. You'll be looking kind of directly at the profile of the building. [1:12:04] I when you showed the first uh picture with the joist on the top, I actually thought they were solar panels. [1:12:11] Yeah. Also thought also. Mhm. And maybe there's future dialogue about [1:12:17] I'm just throwing it out there. Not that I'm everybody who knows me. [1:12:23] Would would the engineering of those allow for I I don't know. [1:12:29] Structural engineer is definitely where I draw my professional line. Well, I'm very excited for this space. I below [1:12:34] that, you know, right? Chris Chris just pulled away [1:12:40] extra weight. This is This space is exciting. Um I I love it. Um I have for [1:12:48] years have been wishing something like this was in Woodbury. um for the amount of um you know, AAU [1:12:56] games that we have going on and uh I'm even going to go so far as to say all all the gymnastics studios if you know [1:13:04] if you're allowing meats on those basketball floors or what have you. So, it's it's good. [1:13:10] What's the next step for this? Is this it for us? That is correct. [1:13:16] So, what what are building requirements for restroom access? I know they talked [1:13:21] about future plans, but there's obviously nothing on this plan. Um, the stalls, and I zoomed in and looked, the [1:13:27] stalls are inadequate. Yeah. To support the number of users at any [1:13:32] point in time. What is the city's obligation to require? [1:13:38] I don't I assume it's not ours. It's building code. But where where is that in here? Yeah, the the building code process will [1:13:44] stand on its own as it will through the through the issuance by our building officials. they'll ensure that the [1:13:49] Minnesota state building code is met as it relates to not only bathroom and [1:13:55] fixture counts, but the other area likely that's going to change from what's in front of you is the number of handicap parking stalls, for instance. [1:14:02] Those are things that we do anticipate being updated and will evolve over time [1:14:07] as more information is known. The applicant still working through some of the final interior details. How large is [1:14:15] the is the concession area? That has an impact on number of fixtures within a restroom area. [1:14:21] Um, but that's not part of our purview as part of this application process. That's correct. We don't we don't manage interior the interior elements of it. [1:14:28] It's it's the broad use. Yeah. Got it. Okay. But you manage you manage. [1:14:34] Yep. And and would you then um look at uh the [1:14:40] entire space at its full capacity use? In other words, seven basketball games [1:14:46] or the the three lacrosse or whatever it was and you know all of those people and [1:14:52] Yeah. Yes, that is correct. And fill it out according to and yeah. Okay. Correct. [1:14:58] Does this does this zoning allow for on premise liquor? Onremise beer wine. Sorry, not liquor. On premise beer wine. [1:15:04] Does this zoning allow for? It's uh the liquor component is based on the use of the property and it council may recall [1:15:11] that there was a modification to code this probably a decade ago now to [1:15:16] facilitate the exolf use and that is a commercial recreation use. So this that [1:15:21] was a long answer to this use could be eligible to receive if the seating area [1:15:28] is defined and small enough to meet city code. Yeah, I think I brought up to to Mr. SH's building a development in another [1:15:36] community for pet play that had a beer and wine for just just waiting. [1:15:42] Yeah. Woodbury Kim gets heard sports leisure. I'm waiting for my pet indoor play. Your dog go with other dogs. [1:15:48] I would go forget that. I'll go play with other dogs and it'll [1:15:53] be do you could do the other the other space. You can make that all like turf and just have it be an indoor dog park [1:16:00] area that you just gota you got to have drainage that you got to clean [1:16:05] the water. Do we know what the hours of operation are going to be? [1:16:13] Uh based on the traffic study, the hours of operation, and I'll let the applicant confirm this, but the latest is [1:16:19] somewhere in that 10 p.m. time frame. Um the earlier starts going to really depend on programming. [1:16:26] Okay. Yeah. I'm just thinking in terms of the housing, the apartments next door and if [1:16:32] there's going to be anything there. We would not anticipate any conflicts with the adjacent housing. In fact, we [1:16:38] we think it's likely more uh complimentary than some light industrial [1:16:44] warehouse e-commerce type uses. How about will there be screening then between this? Do we have plantings [1:16:51] between them or Yeah. Yeah. The um there is a significant screen wall that is in place to screen [1:16:58] the truck docks that were constructed as part of the original. There is significant landscape plantings along [1:17:04] Hudson Road to soften the parking lot area. All of which is already installed. [1:17:10] Can you can you just go to the picture again that shows the where the apartments are the broader Yeah. Okay. [1:17:21] Right. Any other questions? I'll make a motion to adopt approval of [1:17:26] the conditional use permit via resolution 25-175, a resolution adopting findings of facts [1:17:32] subject to the conditions outlined in supplemental council letter 25-246. [1:17:37] Second. Motion a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll call, please. [1:17:43] Council member Wilson. I. Council member Morris. Hi. Council member Santini. Hi. [1:17:48] Council member Stafford. Hi. Mayor Bert. Hi. That passes. Congratulations. We'll look [1:17:55] forward to this. Um yeah, we we it's we might get Woodbury on the map for something significant. I [1:18:01] think this will be once word gets out you're going to have teams starting to be like when can we start to book? [1:18:07] Yeah, that's fantastic. Congratulations. Appreciate, you know, congrats on the innovative thinking with this roof line [1:18:14] and all of that. So that's amazing. We're We need a tour of it when it's close to being done. [1:18:20] Yeah. Wonderful. Thank you. Congrats. Um we'll now move on to our third um [1:18:26] open hearing. This is the action ridge third edition vacation of public drainage and utility easement. And [1:18:32] Chris, this is yours. Engineering. Yep. Yep. So, good evening, mayor, members of [1:18:37] the council. Uh this is going to be pretty short and sweet. This is really a procedural matter. Um, it's got a lot of [1:18:44] text there, but I think I'm just going to skip right to the map, which will make a heck of a lot more sense. Uh, [1:18:50] Ashton, uh, Ridge, third edition, uh, was one of the first developments in this area along Pioneer Drive and Bailey [1:18:57] Lake Drive. Um when that development was contemplated uh there was a lot of storm [1:19:03] water drainage that was coming off the farm fields uh from the northwest, southwest and the northeast of the Asher [1:19:10] Ridge third edition at that time. Pioneer Drive was uh floodprone uh because there didn't have any there [1:19:16] wasn't any upstream catch basins uh to hold back that water. Um and so there was a large drainage utility easement [1:19:22] taken on lot 7 block one Ashton ridgeed and the applicant the property owner has [1:19:28] requested a vacation of a portion of that drainage utility easement staff's willing to consider this and contemplate [1:19:34] this because uh all of that upstream infrastructure is now in place. We're holding back the water um and we don't [1:19:42] need such a large uh drainage utility easement anymore. And so we reviewed it, looked at all the hydraulic [1:19:47] calculations, and uh we have sufficient room for the 100red-year high water level event as well as sufficient room [1:19:53] for a vertical standpoint if there's any overflow needs for a larger storm event. [1:20:01] So this is a closer picture of this. Um again, lot seven, block one is that one [1:20:07] kind of on the northwest corner of the site on the left of your screen. And there's a close-up picture um of the [1:20:14] property. The property we're looking to vacate is shown in that gray box and it's described in the resolution. And [1:20:21] again, this is I don't think I mentioned this is to construct a pool. So the recommendation at this time is to [1:20:28] vacate that portion of the drainage utility easement as described for lot 7 block one Asheridge third edition [1:20:34] subject to the conditions in the resolution. Do you have any questions? [1:20:43] I do have a question. I'm sorry. Is Do you want to close the You want to close the hearing a close the hearing? [1:20:49] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No green sheets. Nothing. Okay. Um [1:20:54] motion to close. I make a motion to close the hearing. Second. Motion. Second. Any further discussion? [1:20:59] Hearing none. All in favor? Hearing's closed. Open to counsel. Okay. So, we're wanting to vacate the [1:21:05] area in the gray box, but is that not as I'm looking at the map on my phone, that's what I'm doing here. Is that not [1:21:11] a drainage like is it's the entirety of that back corner? [1:21:17] Uh, as anybody that line almost u a little bit less than 50% is part of the [1:21:23] drainage utility easement on that particular property. Yeah. [1:21:30] Memory serves that this is also where their monument is. Yeah. Is that right? Is it's not impeded [1:21:36] on any of the monument structures. There is a fence around that already. [1:21:41] Yeah. Exact also in the monuments outside the fence property. Yeah, that that is correct. There is [1:21:46] monumentation on this site. The proposed easement vacation is uh outside of that [1:21:53] area. Okay. And and that that's not that monument is [1:22:00] part of the HOA ownership. It's not part of the city. Correct. Okay. So, does that [1:22:08] help me understand how this easement work? How is this easement drawn behind the monument? What [1:22:14] here? Go ahead. The existing easement or future easement? The existent. The exist. Well, both. And can also identify where the fence [1:22:21] line is and where the monument is just visually. The existing drainage and utility [1:22:27] easement was really to a point where the modeled storm event would move the 1% [1:22:35] event through that area. The monument sign is really kind of in that corner [1:22:42] portion of this of the lot that's shown on the screen. Northwest corner. [1:22:47] That's right. Right here. And so that that's kind of tucked if you think about the roundabout intersection. [1:22:53] It's kind of tucked back within that location. So, there is separation between the monument. There will be some [1:23:00] level of rear yard area to still be able to convey normal drainage that moves [1:23:05] through a lot followed by this new location. So, this was carefully looked at from how the water can move through. [1:23:13] As director Hartell pointed out, the previous design aspect to carry the [1:23:21] significant amount of water that was moving through what is now Copper Ridge [1:23:26] and the Bridewood Farms is now uh addressed through pretty significant construction of stormwater ponds right [1:23:33] up against Pioneer Drive. Did most of that heavy lifting. But when this development was built, [1:23:38] that uh containment area was not in in place. So times of and conditions have changed. [1:23:43] Mhm. This is a lower line from a topographical standpoint. This is lower. [1:23:49] That is correct. Correct. than than the Copper Ridge side is that side of the street is lower. Yeah. [1:23:54] And we're not concerned that with the with the storm water requirement that we did in Copper Ridge, Chris is shaking. [1:24:00] No, you're you're fine. Even though we carefully reviewed this, we've we've got more than enough in this scenario uh [1:24:06] for well above the 100red-year event. If we had an event that impacted this [1:24:11] area, uh trust me that we would have many events all over town and this would be lowest priority [1:24:19] and now they'd have a pool. Yeah, we have we'd have a pool on threequarters of the city. I mean I do but I do remember the um [1:24:26] Marsh Creek incident then that was um quite a mess. So I'm just trying to [1:24:32] figure this out. So, as I'm looking at this, I see this nice green in the back of my um photos here or my map. And [1:24:40] that's generally where the water is flowing through the properties almost. I'm going to call it a swale, but it [1:24:46] must be something else or was or the extent of the drainage utility easement was in the worst case scenario [1:24:54] being able to hold that water in the event of an emergency overflow. I see. At this point, the vast majority [1:24:59] of the drainage is conveyed through storm water conveyance piping. Well, because none of that was I mean, hell, that was five. So, you're saying [1:25:06] it's right here? Not quite 10 years, but none of that was in place. If if you look at the Copper Ridge development, there is significant [1:25:12] storm water and uh structures holding that runoff back. I was laughing when I first saw this. I was like, is this Council Member Dates [1:25:18] property? It is. It is. It is. It is. Oh, yep. It is. [1:25:24] Didn't actually know that it really was. It's on the bottom left of the Gotcha. of the the screen. Oh. Oh, see I didn't even see that. [1:25:31] That if I tried. That's funny. Former council member. Former council member. No influence. This is all [1:25:37] I didn't even know this was on this hers. Well, and clearly I didn't know it was hers. And in fact, I think the uniqueness of [1:25:44] this is we don't often vacate drainage utility easements. Um, I think this was contemplated at the time because we [1:25:51] never knew and and Eric recalls this that um that those developments were [1:25:56] going to develop and we were not going to utilize or need the extent of the drainage utility easement on these properties [1:26:02] and you can't go back afterwards and get more. So when you're doing these as you're originally plotting or platting [1:26:08] these absolutely that was my initial resistance but after quite a bit of engineering [1:26:14] review looking at the uniqueness of this circumstance we don't believe that this particular request is going to set [1:26:20] precedent because very few properties would have the unique constraints uh that we have here. [1:26:27] Okay. Well, in add Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [1:26:32] I will say that my property does, but has a very large easement through the [1:26:39] back of it. Um, we good. We're good. I um I just want to make sure I just want to make sure and maybe get it in [1:26:45] the minutes. So, so you are confident that this is not going to interrupt [1:26:51] water flow um out of this neighborhood or, you [1:26:56] know, it's not going to cause this flooding into neighbors yards or or change anything like that. [1:27:01] 100% confident for the design events. You could have a thousand-year event [1:27:07] where it rains 30 in over a 24-h hour period and there's no we're all going to be flooded if that's [1:27:12] we're all going to be flooded. So I have to have nuance because prec you know we had the floods up in duth and those are [1:27:19] extreme events and they do cause issues but this isn't going to be only case for the design event we put all over town [1:27:25] and the design standards in and the updated atlas 14 modeling this is not a concern [1:27:30] and because the drainage utility was imposed at the time because the other mechanisms to deal with [1:27:37] correct it was not holding it back. So if you think about a building a pool and your [1:27:43] rain event is a hydrant filling up the pool and leading out of the pool is a garden hose, right? So in these in these [1:27:51] instances, uh we didn't have it. We didn't have the pool up front. We just had the hydrant flowing right under these properties. And so you needed to [1:27:58] create that storage volume on this property. Well, that's no longer needed. [1:28:03] It's no longer needed. Correct. I'll make a motion. I'm sorry, Kim. You have more [1:28:10] No. Okay. I'll make a motion to adopt uh where the hell are we? [1:28:15] Resolution. Thank you. To adopt resolution 25-173, a resolution authorizing to vacate a [1:28:20] portion of the drainage and utility easements for lot 7 block one pre previously recorded with the Ashton [1:28:25] Ridge third edition final plat subject to the conditions. Second. [1:28:30] Let's see who went for who? Arm wrestle. I don't care. Donna's got it. Don's got the second motion. A second. [1:28:37] Any further discussion hearing? None. The roll call, please. Council member Morris, I. Council member Santini, [1:28:42] I. Council member Stafford, I. Council member Wilson, I. Mayor Burch, I. That passes. Congratulations, Andrea [1:28:50] and Max and the kids. She's been a big pool advocate for a long time. So, looking forward to [1:28:55] Come talk to me. I'll tell you what to do or not do. Just don't get a swinging hammock chair. [1:29:03] No hammock. Thank you. That's in reference to my [1:29:09] broken. That's This is where you can send Justin now. I'm super happy about this. I didn't even know this was a thing, but now I'm [1:29:15] sending everybody down. Yeah. There we go. All right. We'll now move on to our discussion item. This is uh to consider the approval of an [1:29:21] ordinance amending chapter 5 regarding animals. Ashley, this is yours to tell us more about. [1:29:26] This is mine. Thank you, Mayor Bert and members of the council. Um, I do have a short presentation for you this evening [1:29:32] that will provide an overview on the ordinance before you. Um, and we do have Officer Nicole Morosa in the audience as [1:29:39] well if you have questions. Dog licensing obviously pertains to public safety. So, all right. [1:29:45] [Applause] So, as you know, the city of Woodbury currently issues licenses to dogs on a [1:29:51] two-year license cycle. Uh, licenses must be applied for in person at city hall. The fee structure is tiered and we [1:30:00] have discounted rates for residents as well as dogs that have been spayed or neutered. Uh the city currently does [1:30:07] require proof of rabies vaccination when u dogs are licensed and then once [1:30:13] they're licensed um we do issue a metal dog tag and a vinyl vehicle window sticker um to be used when the vehicle [1:30:19] parks at at the dog park. All right. Uh this graph um is taken [1:30:26] from the performance measures. So you've possibly seen it before. Um but it shows the yearly number of dog licenses that [1:30:33] have been issued by the city over the last uh 10 10ish years. Um and as I [1:30:39] mentioned, we do licensing on a two-year cycle. So if you look just at the even years, that's the first year of the [1:30:45] two-year cycle. Um you see a pretty clear decline in in licenses that are [1:30:50] that are obtained. We know that our population is growing. We suspect that there are many more dogs than than are [1:30:57] getting licensed. Um so this just really shows that we have a kind of a downward trend. Um kind of shows some [1:31:03] non-compliance with our licensing program and noting too that it's really not really rebounded after CO either. [1:31:12] [Applause] So, in looking at the data and licensing trends um both in Woodbury and across um [1:31:19] other metro cities, um staff are recommending tonight that the council consider ending the city's dog licensing [1:31:26] program. Um aside from the compliance issues that I I mentioned earlier, the reality is [1:31:33] that pet ownership has simply changed since the licensing program began um 50 [1:31:39] probably 50 years ago. Um, today we have an increased use of pets that get microchipped. Um, our law [1:31:46] enforcement have microchip scanners so they can easily get owner data from from dogs if they're located. Um, we all know [1:31:53] that social media sites are around that help people post pictures of their pets and uh, reunite the owners with their [1:31:59] pets. Um, the last point that I want to make is um, data privacy considerations. [1:32:06] So with a very few number of exceptions, the data that is collected on license [1:32:11] applications is public data. And that's a concern for residents that may want their, you know, name and address to be [1:32:18] private. Um, it also creates an obligation for the city to provide that data if there's a a data request. Um, so [1:32:26] that's something that is, you know, worthy of being considered. [1:32:31] So, I wanted to include this graph um because I think it's good data and it shows um you know a good point about the [1:32:39] prevalence of rabies um you know back in the 1980s when this program was probably [1:32:44] established. Um if you look at the purple that shows um the rabies cases [1:32:50] among dogs, you really see that that's declined drastically all the way over to the 2020s. Um, when people think of dog [1:32:57] licensing programs, they think that it incentivizes people to get their dogs vaccinated and and people generally do [1:33:04] that anyway. And what we're seeing here is that rabies is less of a concern than it used to be, which is a good thing. [1:33:10] And again, pointed out in the 2020s, there's one dog in all the entire state of Minnesota that had a rabies issue. [1:33:16] Yes. Yeah. Thank you. All right. So, I do want to cover um [1:33:22] briefly the fiscal impacts because this is a licensing program. we charge charge fees and so there are fiscal impacts. Um [1:33:28] tonight the uh 2026 preliminary budget projected around 20,000 in revenue um [1:33:35] and that will not be realized uh if if you choose to end the program. Um at the [1:33:41] same time the city will be saving on material expenses. I mentioned the dog tags and the the vinyl vehicle stickers [1:33:48] which are actually somewhat expensive. Um, and then not to mention, I think more meaningful is the the staff time [1:33:54] savings. Um, we did a little bit of of quick math and um, we estimate that in a [1:34:00] 2-year license cycle, staff probably spend around 219 to 439 hours issuing [1:34:06] dog licenses. So, that time would be freed up to um, have staff support many [1:34:12] of the other initiatives that we have going in the city. [1:34:17] So, the ordinance amendment that is before you this evening would remove the requirement that residents um have their [1:34:23] dogs licensed. It does maintain the rabies vaccination requirement for all dogs over 6 months. And lastly, it does [1:34:31] incorporate several minor uh non-policy revisions that have been recommended by the city administrator's office and that [1:34:38] have been uh reviewed by by my team and public safety as well. [1:34:48] Um, and so for next steps, I'll just briefly cover um, should you act to approve the proposed ordinance tonight, [1:34:53] the ordinance would become effective on January 1st, 2026. Um, current dog [1:34:59] licenses would be allowed to expire on December 31st, 2025. [1:35:05] The city would not require renewals or new licenses for the 2026 2027 license [1:35:10] year and beyond. Um, and then I'll just mention that of course we will be communicating this to residents who [1:35:16] would otherwise be expecting to come in and renew for next year. Um, we'll, you know, send out messages through the [1:35:22] InTouch email system and then probably something in the newsletter in January as well. [1:35:29] So with that, uh, the recommendation for action is on the screen for you to consider. Um, I'm happy to answer any [1:35:36] questions that you may have at this time. And as I mentioned, we have Officer Morosa here as well. [1:35:41] Great. Thank you. Um, my initial reaction is I'm I'm proud of staff for finding a way to stop doing something [1:35:47] that doesn't make sense anymore. And I think we should be asking ourselves a lot of that. Like what are we doing that [1:35:52] we don't need to be doing anymore? And this is a great example of that. Um, I've also just, you know, looking at the [1:35:57] data, we look at it every time we get the data and I'm like, there's a lot more dogs out there than that. So, you know, here we're trying to implement [1:36:03] something and have a rule and not everyone's following it. probably 10% of the world is the the residents are [1:36:10] following it. So, um in the meantime, we'll make a motion to close the hearing. Okay. Thank you. [1:36:16] No, it's just a discussion. Discussion. Yeah. Nice try, Steve. It's discussion right here. There's no [1:36:22] hearing. I don't even know what I'm doing here today. I just beckoned your craziness. That's because you guys have [1:36:29] been aligned. Okay. Wow. All right. Um Okay. Anyway, those are my thoughts. So, [1:36:35] um yeah, I Yeah, the only question I had as a non dog owner was um although I have two [1:36:43] children that would love love love to get a dog. I should tell them that we changed the ordinance that the city [1:36:49] doesn't allow them. Yeah. That we just that's what we just changed the ordinance on. Um was I guess [1:36:55] question about the be for Andy's uh dog park. What What was the purpose of the [1:37:01] stickers? It's a it's a great question. Um the stickers I believe were kind of started [1:37:07] around COVID, so 2020. Um at that time we saw a lot of residents that were trying to be outside and you know [1:37:13] increased use of all of our parks, including the dog park. So the sticker was really a way to try to make sure that people using the park were Woodbury [1:37:21] residents or non-residents, but either way that they had their dogs licensed. Um since we've kind of recovered from [1:37:27] from that time um the usage has really evened out and we haven't seen a lot of parking issues at the dog park. So we [1:37:34] don't foresee that being an issue. Okay. That was going to be my only thing is if we were trying to sort of limit or [1:37:40] regulate about being there cuz I actually was like wait so would that have meant that I couldn't have gone [1:37:45] with a not not with a dog. Part of part of the other and I and I had a conversation with director Okana [1:37:51] about this. Part of the other thing is it you have to enforce it. Exactly. Yeah. So is Right. Yeah. [1:37:58] Are you all putting tickets on cars if they didn't have a dog sticker? No. Okay. Oh, I would wish I would have known [1:38:03] that. We have always make my daughter. The larger problem is people picking up [1:38:10] after their dog, not necessarily they're using the dog park and not authorized to. But yeah. Yeah. So [1:38:15] I have a quick question actually. If this sunsets um 123125, [1:38:22] do we have anyone now with a two-year license that would we may be looking for [1:38:30] refunds in 2026? We issue licenses in a way that they will all expire um at the end of that [1:38:37] two-year cycle. So, people that come in that may have came in today to purchase a license, it would have only gone [1:38:42] through the end of 2025. Okay, thank you. Those this will be an [1:38:48] impact because I I did look it up while we were sitting here that we did have that budget allocation in the budget for [1:38:53] that. So this will be an adjustment. I mean in the grand scheme of things minuscule but [1:39:00] this will come to us as a budget amendment as part of the package in November. We've already made it. [1:39:06] Well that was cart before the horse. Steve's gonna vote no just just out of spite process. [1:39:12] Yeah. That'll be part of the budget workshop. So you'll see uh or not the workshop but [1:39:18] the November workshop where you'll see this uh adjustment and several others. Yeah. So, [1:39:23] but again, the freeing up time to do something more I was just going to say I'm assuming the fees the revenue didn't really offset [1:39:30] the cost the employee hours and time and the 20 was it now I mean interesting and this [1:39:36] is a we'll have this conversation when it comes to the budget is that's 200 less hours you know give or take [1:39:43] annually that of workload that we're looking for and where can that what is what are we doing stopping doing things [1:39:49] but we're adding ahead in finance so I there's There's still some conversation to be had at the budget. This is one of [1:39:55] the things that hey, we have taken some things away. Do we really need? So, I'm just prepping council for [1:40:02] my approach in November on the head. You just spoke in in code. I did. [1:40:07] I didn't I felt like there wasn't a complete So, it's probably accurate. Okay. 40 uh 400 hours maximum is [1:40:16] 14 What's a full-time employee? 1440 1400 something like that. 2080. 2080 on a full-time employee. So that's [1:40:22] not even it's a quarter of an employee still salary benefits 100%. I'm not negating I'm not negating [1:40:28] the I don't know what you're trying to say but I'm sure I'll figure it out at the workshop. Yeah, there you go. I'm all for that. Right. But with regard to the budgets [1:40:35] council members Morris um in the under control officer, the public safety [1:40:41] department shall be the agency designated as the agency responsible to control the keeping of animals within [1:40:47] the city. They're going to have staff time, too. [1:40:52] Fair enough. Yeah. To do other stuff. [1:40:58] Great. Okay. Well, they still will respond though. I mean, I just want the public to understand they're still going [1:41:03] to respond to your nuisance calls because we still have ordinances on dog [1:41:08] nuisance violations. The only thing we're doing is just right. The only thing we're doing is getting rid of [1:41:14] tags, the licensing. I mean, yeah. Right. a little bit of our workshop [1:41:19] conversation tonight in in does this do we license cats? [1:41:26] It's only dogs. Exactly. So, it's to a little bit of it. Cat owner, you know, of course, cat cats are [1:41:31] not nearly as loud as dogs, but yeah, we still have ordinances in place. All right, I'm ready. [1:41:37] I'll move to adopt ordinance 2070, an ordinance amending city code chapter 5 animals articles 1 2 3 in general [1:41:44] domesticated animals and non-domemestic animals and authorize staff to publish the summary ordinance in the city's [1:41:49] designated official newspaper. Second motion is second. Any further [1:41:54] discussion? I actually have just one quick question. Um, this was published already. Do we get any public input on [1:41:59] this at all from anybody? We typically publish after approval. We [1:42:05] don't we don't we pre-say that this is going to happen. Posted. Yeah. Has there been any comment? No. Do we know? Okay. [1:42:12] Do we license our K9 dogs in the city of Woodbury? They're exempt in this. [1:42:19] There's a budget. There's another budget savings. Okay. All right. We had a motion and a second. Any further discussion or [1:42:25] question hearing? None. Roll call, please. Council member Santini. I. Council member Stafford. [1:42:31] I. Council member Wilson. Hi. Council member Morris. Hi. Mayor Bert. I that ordinance passes. All right. Made [1:42:38] things simpler and made people happier to have to come in to fill out the license. Like that. What a pain. [1:42:44] Difficult to do. Okay. Chris, you can do it by You could have done it by mail. Oh, you could have. They said in person. [1:42:49] You had to come in in person. You could. Yeah. Anyway, Chris, transportation report. This is the final one of the [1:42:56] year and we're expecting everything fireworks and, you know, celebrations and construction. all the con. [1:43:03] Not quite, but we're almost done. Um, yeah, on the call earlier today, we [1:43:09] talked about fireworks and I warned uh administrator Dah that it was going to be more of a fizzle because we're closer [1:43:15] to the end of the year. Uh, there's still some active projects. We've got the water treatment plant pipelines [1:43:20] project still going, Dale Road, the 2025 road rehab, Tamarak Road, Woodlane Drive [1:43:26] trail project, but we're really close to the finish line here. So, westbound [1:43:31] Tamarak Road is scheduled to be open on the 23rd tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah. [1:43:36] So, that means it's done. That that section of Tamarak's done. Correct. Okay. Dale Road uh this Friday. [1:43:44] Thank goodness. Uh Central Park Place, uh end of the month here. [1:43:50] Pioneer Drive also the end of the month. So, this is all you're going to get for fireworks right there. [1:43:58] It didn't cost anything. Will you for one more second central park place is that including like prominade [1:44:04] prominade correct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of confusing because Central Park didn't know if you were [1:44:11] being okay. Yep. That looks like paintball. Yeah. And I and I asked I asked the [1:44:16] folks uh to uh put in a picture and I said I just really want a picture. I don't care where it is, but I want to [1:44:23] show that, you know, there's a a double-edged sword when it comes to rain and fall weather and gloomy weather as [1:44:30] we get closer to the end of the year. One, it's difficult for construction activities, right? It slows things down, but what it does do is provides for [1:44:37] really good turf restoration. So, we're really hoping that we got fewer complaints next year in the spring as [1:44:43] grassh propagates. As council knows, the last couple years we've had pretty dry falls and pretty dry summers, which has [1:44:50] been difficult for residents to deal with trying to get grass to grow. So, this is a picture uh at Pioneer Drive [1:44:55] and Lake Road, and it looks fantastic compared to what it normally does. Although it is funny because right west [1:45:01] of there there is an exit from a neighborhood and I do keep thinking I need to let um public works know that [1:45:08] the vision looking south when you're trying to pull out because of how high [1:45:13] some of that native plantings has been is being a little obstructive. All right. I'll write a note and they'll [1:45:19] take care of it. Like oh I should I should let them know that it's getting a little difficult. [1:45:25] Um, but did want to talk about since it's the end of construction season, I know no one will remember this uh next [1:45:31] year, but I want to give a little preview of the 2026 construction, um, we do have a lot of things going on, and [1:45:37] I've stated all along, it's going to be slightly less impactful, but not by much. I'll say that in the moments that [1:45:44] construction has been promising a lot less. I've heard you say it publicly. You're your [1:45:50] Well, I I think we need to recreate another mean tweets. uh video. Okay. Less in the roadway next year. [1:45:56] There's there is less in the roadway, but I'll say there are segments of Valley Creek, they're going to be shut down. There's going to be segments of [1:46:02] Bailey Road, they're going to be shut down. But the positive thing is the duration is going to be a lot less. So, [1:46:08] where this year we had shutdowns on both roads, it's lasted the entire [1:46:13] construction season, it will still be difficult next year, but I the durations overall will be slightly less. But in [1:46:19] those moments, residents are going to be frustrated. But again, our mission, our strategic vision is to provide treated [1:46:25] water to all properties in Woodbury, and this is 100% part of that project. So, we're going to do water treatment plant [1:46:31] uh pipelines. We've got Valley Creek and Eagle Creek Lane, a traffic signal project that is one of the most [1:46:37] dangerous intersections in Washington County and and in particular Woodbury. So, that's a very welcome project. On [1:46:43] Valley Creek, uh we're also building the trail on the north side of the road. Uh follow [1:46:48] fireworks on that. that's been at least talked about for seven years. I think it's been kicked out of the schedule almost nine years. Yes. [1:46:55] Yeah. Um it's been a difficult one relative to workload, but uh the timing is right with the water main construction and [1:47:02] it's going to go from Kobe Lake underpass to dancing waters. That's uh we've got the 2025 roadway [1:47:07] rehabilitation project just finishing East View Road as we've discussed. We've got the 2026 road rehab project. Uh [1:47:14] Woodlane Drive, which I think the council has seen. Uh it's the four to three lane conversion. We've got the [1:47:20] Bailey Road and Settlers Ridge Parkway intersection improvement project. That's actually a uh county road project. Uh [1:47:27] it's for the construction of a roundabout. And then uh and that'll be a completely closed intersection there. [1:47:34] Yeah. Fun. And then we've got Bailey Road, Trunk Highway 95, Manning Avenue. Uh that's a [1:47:39] mindot project. Uh thankfully there are going to be some closures, but they are phasing that and they're providing some [1:47:45] uh temporary bypass routing. And then we've got another county project, County Road 18, uh La Lake Park to Woodlane [1:47:52] Drive connecting to uh that facility down there. Well, okay. Which side is what what side [1:47:59] of the road? That's going to be on the south side of Bailey Road. Okay. From Woodlane Drive all the way to La [1:48:05] Lake Park. Got it. I lost your screen. [1:48:10] We all lost screens. Did you I heard something. Something crash. [1:48:16] I'll be right back. I didn't move my feet. Steve. Steve. [1:48:23] I'll be right back. Keep going. Don't mind me. Okay. If the camera could focus on Steve, [1:48:29] that'd be great. I have to reboot. How you doing? [1:48:35] So, just a a quicks can I just ask a question? Are those um I don't have them up and I don't see [1:48:41] them, so I'm going to go off memory. The um Eagle Valley, that dangerous [1:48:47] intersection, the trail that's going to go in. Are all of those going to be timed with the water treatment [1:48:55] construction? I hope. Yes. Everything's I just want to make sure everything's been coordinated there. Um [1:49:00] there is a a segment there that is going to be completely closed in terms of the road u because the water [1:49:06] if you remember the we're putting the water man on the north side of the road and there's properties [1:49:12] that are relatively close and so instead of providing water man along the boulevard and and underneath the trail [1:49:18] the proposed trail you actually have to move it into the lanes. So there's going to be some um [1:49:25] closures there. Yeah. I mean, I think that seems like the difference to next year though is [1:49:30] that where some of the construction is, not that it's, you know, it's hard when you're living close by the impacted [1:49:36] areas. So, and you know, feeling for for those residents, but it also seems like [1:49:42] some of these impacts next year will also be sort of on more on the outer edges a little bit of the city versus I [1:49:48] feel like there was so much in the main, you know, city center. You know, I mean, when you have Valley Creek and Radio [1:49:54] being impacted for, you know, I think it's in particular where you live, the county road projects and the [1:50:00] Mindot projects are going to be on the eastern edge, right? The roadways. Uh there are, as I mentioned, segments [1:50:05] along Valley Creek and Bailey Road that are going to be closed. Uh thankfully, they're not going to close them both at the same time. Those are all going to be [1:50:12] coordinated. Uh the major projects next year, as you can see, um from Interlockan Parkway to Cottage Grove [1:50:17] Drive, they're constructing the water man to connect that Eastwell Manifold project with the work that was done on [1:50:22] Pioneer Drive. And maybe I should clarify, so everything in black, whether [1:50:28] it's dashed or solid, that's for the 2026 construction season. Then we've got the segment on Bailey Road, the [1:50:35] continuing segment along Pioneer Drive and Harus Parkway. And that's it. I will [1:50:41] say that um our staff has worked very closely with the school district and the access um they will be completing the [1:50:49] portion that's on from Radio Drive on Hargus going eastbound. That's going to be completed over the summer. the [1:50:55] portions in the dash dash lines will be completed during active school session, [1:51:00] but at every time the school district is going to have access to the facilities and there's been a lot of coordination [1:51:05] and discussions around that. So, I'll go over this again as we get into before we get into construction season next year, [1:51:11] but just a little primer that it's going to still be busy and one thing we anticipate is with the [1:51:18] second year of construction and everybody experienced enough this year, they're going to get a little break over the winter. Um, we still anticipate [1:51:24] people being very tired of construction after next year up right in the midst of that Valley [1:51:30] Creek construction. So, so that Valley Creek Road will be shut down again. There's going to be most of it's going [1:51:37] to be shut down uh one lane on the westbound uh from Cottage Grove Drive to [1:51:42] uh the KBY Lake underpass. But right when you get there, if you remember that there's some severe drop offs, there's [1:51:48] homes. That's where the water man has to go into Valley Creek Road. And then you've got some crossings through there. [1:51:54] So, there's going to be closures probably anywhere uh three to four weeks at a time and that's going to all be [1:52:00] coordinated with Bailey Road, but we've tried to minimize impacts, but it is what it is. We want to get this project [1:52:06] done. You said you were trying to coordinate with with the We're coordinating Bailey Road Valley. [1:52:11] Correct. Because that's the east west. Correct. So, I I then also had a question on North South, right? So if Manning [1:52:18] in 19 sorry Manning and Bailey gets a roundabout etc. the only other northwest [1:52:23] north south is going to be well the the main through to Cottage Grove is going to be radio right so [1:52:28] correct thankfully Manning is going to have a bypass lane so they're going to okay so traffic will be able to continue [1:52:34] to go north there'll be some short duration closures but then they'll construct essentially a temporary road around the roundabout so [1:52:40] they can continue with travel. Okay. All right, with that, [1:52:47] uh, as always, you know, we have a web page talks about closures and detour routes. If you weren't aware of that [1:52:52] this year, we definitely encourage people to sign up for it as we get going next year. It is very current. It's [1:52:58] always up todate. And despite our best efforts, construction is active. You [1:53:03] know, you've got rain events, you've got pipeline deliveries, contractor complications. Whenever we estimate [1:53:10] something, it's as good as the moment we estimate it. and then that changes. Even though we do our best, um it is the best [1:53:16] thing to do if you're ever concerned about getting around the city is to sign up for that. You'll get email updates [1:53:22] and you can see what's going on in real time. And then not but not uh not the least, I [1:53:29] want I just want to talk about what got voted. I I really liked uh what was it? [1:53:34] Uh clean Latifah. Um clean sweep. Yeah, something like that. But [1:53:40] clean Latifah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the community wholeheartedly uh selected LeBroom James [1:53:47] even though I think he's well over covered on ESPN. Just want to say that [1:53:54] grown and as always sign up for in touch updates. [1:53:59] So Chris, just a question about all that road construction. That's that's that's 2026. We know the water um [1:54:08] plant is not up and running until 2028. So in 20 but in 2027 we don't I it's [1:54:15] more like water treatment plant. The pipe should be done major road pipe issues done. So [1:54:21] essentially the the one thing we're coordinating is the work that's happening along radio drive with the county. So that those pipeline that [1:54:28] little section in orange if you can see in the screen that's the only section left and we're pretty proud that we're [1:54:35] uh at least a year ahead of the public works department and their water treatment plant construction. So we've [1:54:40] really worked hard to beat them and we're not even here to Yeah, they're not. [1:54:46] Yeah. Okay. Thanks for that clarification. Um All right. Good. Well, it's been [1:54:52] great having your construction projects all summer and you're off on that until May. And um city administrator update. [1:54:59] Thank you, mayor. Um two events I want to just uh speak real quickly about. Uh but first, I just want to acknowledge [1:55:06] the great work our staff's doing. You know, we we we had the tangible evidence of the awards that our communication [1:55:12] staff uh were awarded recently, but you know, a good example of the amazing [1:55:18] things that our staff is doing is tonight with Chris and his team, the water treatment plant and the road construction and managing all that. It's [1:55:25] a lot of work and it it's it's been a really um uh tiresome summer for staff [1:55:32] to keep up with not only just the project, but also handling, you know, communications. and I I couldn't be more [1:55:38] impressed as a newcomer to see how great everybody works together indirectly or directly as a team. So, just want to [1:55:44] acknowledge that. Um, so two events coming up. Uh, the first one is tomorrow. We have Welcome to Woodbury [1:55:51] annual event to uh uh inform and and uh [1:55:56] create a sense of belonging for our new community members. You don't have to have moved in, you know, a month ago. [1:56:02] It's for any new resident, whether that's, you know, a couple years ago, uh, or this summer. Uh, but it's a [1:56:09] really great opportunity for new residents to meet, uh, the mayor and the council staff, learn about some of the [1:56:15] great things that we're doing. Uh, we connect them with community resources. [1:56:20] Uh, and it's also familyfriendly, so there's a bounce house, there's giveaways. It's really a cool event. I'm [1:56:26] excited to be there tomorrow. Uh it's at the M Health Fairview Sports Center from 4:30 to 700 p.m. Uh and again, come one, [1:56:34] come all families, uh young professionals, whatever. Um we [1:56:41] hope to see you there. Uh a unique event that I don't think many communities do. Uh it shows you that we're we're trying [1:56:46] to engage and really care about all the people that come to our town. Mhm. [1:56:51] And uh the other event is uh the communitywide Central Park grand opening [1:56:58] uh which I'm really excited about. That's going to be held on Sunday, November 2nd uh at 12:00 p.m. So in [1:57:04] about 10 days. There has been a lot of progress at Central Park over the last two weeks. Uh there still has is more to [1:57:11] be done over the next 10 days, but um that event will be really the you know [1:57:17] touring you know almost all of the facilities, all the new spaces that the community can come and and really uh [1:57:24] utilize. Um so the you know the atrium the the greenery um in the kind of the [1:57:30] main uh part of the central park um the uh the community space the uh the [1:57:37] community rooms the senior center uh the playground of course which is now open [1:57:42] uh and all there's there's a lot of just little really thoughtful gathering places throughout the facility that I'm [1:57:49] really excited to see the community enjoy. So mark your calendars uh folks that are listening. November 2nd, 2025. [1:57:57] Uh, which is obviously this year at 12:00 p.m. Uh, should be fun. And, uh, [1:58:02] it's free. You don't have to RSVP. Just come on over. Mhm. And that's it. Thank you. Great. I I actually have a one quick [1:58:09] question. Yeah. Um, November 4th is the election. Are we [1:58:15] Don't we have to certify votes or results? [1:58:20] Because it's not a municipal election. the council is not the canvasing body. Okay, perfect. I just want to make sure. [1:58:26] I feel like that's one of those things where all of a sudden last minute something gets thrown on our calendar and I just wanted to know when that was [1:58:32] happening. Good question. Good question. Don't forget to vote though. Yeah, thank you Council Member Santi for [1:58:37] calling that out. A good reminder for the community members and go on our website to to to find out more if you're [1:58:42] wondering where your precinct is or or hours and operations. Terrific. All right, that covers our [1:58:48] agenda. I make a motion that we adjurnn. Second. Motion to second. All in favor? I I we are adjourned. Thank you everybody.