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Wright County Truth In Taxation Meeting 12/5/24
Wright County City CouncilFriday, December 6, 2024
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[3:19] good evening everyone it is Thursday
[3:21] December 5th here at 6 o'clock we'll
[3:23] call the uh count right County uh public
[3:26] uh notice for budgets to order we'll
[3:29] begin with the of
[3:31] [Music]
[3:32] Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag
[3:35] of the United States of America and to
[3:37] the Republic for which it stands one
[3:39] nation under God indivisible with
[3:42] liberty and justice for
[3:47] all good evening everyone uh tonight
[3:50] here is the annual time of year that we
[3:53] review the proposed budget for 2025 and
[3:57] open up to the public for comments and
[3:59] questions regarding the 2025 budget if
[4:02] you are here today to question your
[4:04] valuation of your property uh this is
[4:07] not the correct meeting uh that meeting
[4:09] takes place in June uh and we can staff
[4:13] will help you to get you the information
[4:16] and put you in contact with the County
[4:17] Assessors so that you can uh contact
[4:20] them to get the valuation corrected uh
[4:24] so but this that's what you're here for
[4:27] I'm here for that yes okay I'll help you
[4:29] that's what the paper says right here
[4:31] December 5th that's for the the to talk
[4:34] about the levy the the the budget of the
[4:37] county it's not to talk about the uh
[4:40] valuation of your property the valuation
[4:42] of your property say that in the letter
[4:44] that they give us I guess I thought this
[4:48] you meeting pardon me I thought it was
[4:51] the truth and Taxation truth and
[4:54] Taxation meeting where we talk about the
[4:55] taxation of the the county operating
[4:58] budget yeah but the valuation so it's
[5:01] not talking about the entire statement
[5:02] the valuation of your property is the
[5:04] Board of Equalization and the Board of
[5:07] Equalization takes place in June and you
[5:09] actually will meet with the County
[5:11] Assessors to discuss your property and
[5:14] work with them with that and then the
[5:15] final appeal would take place in June at
[5:17] the Board of
[5:20] Equalization so according to this I've
[5:22] already missed the June meeting for for
[5:25] the previous year for PID 25 for PID 25
[5:29] your okay so property
[5:33] taxes didn't get these until two weeks
[5:36] no no so you get three statements over
[5:38] the course of the year the first
[5:40] statement you get comes in Lindsay gonna
[5:43] correct me if I'm wrong but I'm going to
[5:44] say April April is um and that is the
[5:47] one that gives you your property tax
[5:49] valuation the first one you get is
[5:51] property tax valuation your property
[5:53] every year on January 2nd gets assessed
[5:57] by the by the assessor's office that's
[5:59] when they determined valuation is on
[6:00] January 2nd of every year so what you
[6:03] have here is based off of that
[6:05] assessment from this year of January 2nd
[6:06] of 2024 that notice went out in April or
[6:10] March and then the second notice then
[6:12] you get a second statement which is your
[6:14] bill for 24 in that same kind of time
[6:16] period which includes your two stubs for
[6:18] paying the first half and the second
[6:20] half that's for pay 24 what you have
[6:22] before you right now is the preliminary
[6:24] Levy estimate for what you would pay in
[6:28] 2025 based off of the 2024 assessed
[6:31] value on January 2 of 2024 sorry I'm
[6:35] throwing out a lot of dates but we
[6:37] assess the year before we tax it so at
[6:41] this point we're kind of screwed as far
[6:43] as next year tax for the valuation you
[6:45] you can still take it to Tax Court they
[6:48] do have a conceal it does it does I will
[6:50] admit that it does but what you can do
[6:52] right now is you can sign up and talk
[6:55] with the assessor's office and your
[6:57] valuation for January 2 of 25 they can
[7:00] help address that but I did that last
[7:02] year I talked about it because I raised
[7:03] my property taxes up
[7:06] 2.3.7 and you know what you told me it
[7:08] is what it is I could take it to Tax
[7:11] Court but now what's that going to cost
[7:12] me to take it to Tax Court I mean you're
[7:15] talking probably thousands of dollars a
[7:17] do and it's like where I I can help you
[7:21] with what I would tell you if you if you
[7:24] truly believe and you have uh evidence
[7:27] to prove that that is overvalued then
[7:29] take it all the way to the Board of
[7:30] Equalization and then you would come
[7:32] before us here and present your
[7:35] information and which would be
[7:37] comparables that you have to your
[7:38] property so homes of the same year of
[7:41] build same square footage uh same uh
[7:45] features uh within a relative close
[7:49] proximity to yours if you take those
[7:50] comparables the assessors will bring
[7:52] their comparables in and then we weigh
[7:54] that in there if you can prove to us
[7:56] that you have a cracked foundation in
[7:57] your house which would create or or just
[8:00] I'm using that as an example okay
[8:02] business business you might
[8:04] have so I work in the county attorney's
[8:07] office as well it might be worth your
[8:09] time to talk to an attorney if you got a
[8:10] business okay I I can't I'll just give
[8:14] you that legal advice you can talk to an
[8:15] attorney it might be worth your time to
[8:17] talk to them when you have a business
[8:18] then your valuation becomes high enough
[8:20] and your payment become high enough then
[8:21] it might become you might be able to you
[8:24] might be it might be able worth your
[8:25] time people who have residential values
[8:27] that they take the tax Court usually get
[8:29] resolved through reconciliation process
[8:30] which is a very informal process that
[8:33] gets done rather quickly if you go that
[8:36] route for for residential so but if you
[8:38] want to we can sign you up to talk with
[8:40] the assessor's office they're not here
[8:41] today but they will call you back soon
[8:44] well I got that last year and what she
[8:45] told me it is what it is that's exactly
[8:47] what she told me and it's like okay
[8:49] that's not a good answer that is not a
[8:51] good answer it's good not a good answer
[8:52] not a good answer no that's why I was
[8:53] here and that's why you know went by
[8:56] this thinking I can come and actually
[8:57] voice my opinion on what's going on and
[9:00] it's like no it's not the right this
[9:02] this is only for prum Levy that' be the
[9:04] Board of Equalization so all right we
[9:06] can sign you up if you want um and try
[9:08] to help you out that way I mean I'm
[9:10] willing to do that yes absolutely cool I
[9:13] can show you where it is and if you want
[9:14] I'm I'm happy or any commissioner I'm
[9:18] sure from any of your districts where
[9:19] your businesses in right County would be
[9:20] happy to sit in with you on that
[9:22] conversation with the assessors because
[9:23] I don't want you to be able to get that
[9:24] same response back they should they they
[9:26] they need to and owe you the ability
[9:29] articulate how they came up with that
[9:30] number not just a that is what it is
[9:34] yeah
[9:35] so well mine went up
[9:39] 3.41% and uh I believe I was
[9:44] inadvertently uh
[9:46] reclassified well there is it
[9:48] agriculture property ma'am yes it is so
[9:51] there was some things that you needed to
[9:52] do with the assessor to enable to get
[9:54] your Green Acres credits you had to
[9:56] actually fill out some forms all that
[9:57] stuff was filled out it was
[9:59] yep and every time I try to go and talk
[10:02] to
[10:04] them I am told this is for our only you
[10:08] can't see this which is an illegal act
[10:13] which I'm happy to help facilitate that
[10:14] conversation with information under the
[10:17] government data Practices Act and the
[10:19] Freedom of Information Act so the county
[10:22] is illegally withholding information and
[10:25] I have made many special trips to
[10:28] taxpayers services and the assessor's
[10:31] office and made sure all the correct
[10:34] information and forms are there and this
[10:37] says it is too late to appeal without
[10:41] going to Tax Court so you're forcing the
[10:45] citizens into
[10:49] litigation and I believe that you are
[10:52] using a statute so what I'm going to
[10:55] tell you because I can't solve this for
[10:57] you here this isn't the right meeting
[10:59] but what I will say is myself or any of
[11:01] these fellow board members would be more
[11:02] than happy to help facilitate those
[11:04] conversations so that we can Rectify it
[11:07] going forward in the future uh as for
[11:09] what you can do going backwards I can't
[11:11] necessarily help you potentially with
[11:13] that but going forward we can help
[11:15] facilitate these conversations so that
[11:18] we can figure out what is going on with
[11:19] your property and what it needs to be
[11:20] classified at so uh if you want any of
[11:24] our contact information I can helpy have
[11:26] staff get that to you uh we can connect
[11:29] you with the proper commissioner for
[11:30] your District so we can sit down with
[11:32] the assessors and help get that taken
[11:34] care of if people will stop giving me
[11:36] the runaround I would love that because
[11:38] I can never get the straight answer from
[11:40] any of them and I don't want to I I want
[11:42] to solve that for you Michael assessor
[11:45] and he tells me something completely
[11:47] different so this is becoming honorous
[11:50] and
[11:51] burdensome and you guys are
[11:54] hiding legal documents from people about
[11:58] their own property all right what I'm
[12:00] going to tell you is I'm guessing the
[12:02] three of you are probably going to sign
[12:03] up I'm guessing that there's three of
[12:06] you I'm going to tell the assessor's
[12:08] office they're inviting me to that
[12:09] meeting with you and the commissioner
[12:12] from your district will be invited as
[12:13] well okay not out of my I'm happy to
[12:17] meet with you with the assessor's office
[12:18] and we'll talk about it okay thank you I
[12:22] I I I wish I could do something for you
[12:23] tonight but unfortunately that is not in
[12:25] our statutory ability to do anything for
[12:27] you tonight D but I I think it should be
[12:29] able to be resolved without forcing
[12:31] citizens into Tax Court I I and I
[12:33] wholeheartedly agree and I think we can
[12:36] there's there's been some hiding of
[12:38] information
[12:40] here and and I'm sorry for that which is
[12:42] an illegal act yeah and which hopefully
[12:45] we can resolve this for you because I I
[12:48] know where your property is and we
[12:50] should be able to solve this for you so
[12:52] well thank you very much thanks for
[12:54] coming thank you so I'm just going to
[12:56] like to give you guys a second here and
[12:57] we'll continue forward with budget
[12:59] aspect of the meeting tonight tell
[13:01] there's a lot of concerned citizens
[13:04] here it's uh the the complexity the
[13:07] state system for property tax assessment
[13:09] in Minnesota
[13:12] is needs to be overly needs to be
[13:14] simplified for the for
[13:20] everyone I'll let Greg get all their
[13:22] information here before we continue on
[13:24] so we'll just take a short little brief
[13:25] four minute break here y
[13:39] hav sit here
[13:46] [Music]
[14:12] there's a
[14:18] separate
[14:22] changed losing his farm status I said
[14:29] you sold those pumkins that 20 acres so
[14:33] that you can show
[14:34] that don't that they have to assume that
[14:38] it's just not being agriculture so
[14:40] that's the you
[14:51] know so
[15:04] it
[15:05] was all
[15:09] right all right well we we'll resume the
[15:12] meeting now all right we're good all
[15:14] right uh at this time we will move
[15:16] forward with our uh public budget
[15:19] meeting for the few Mr chair I can go
[15:23] through the slides quick if you'd like
[15:24] yes please do all right so we have the
[15:26] 2025 budget um
[15:29] Frank if you
[15:31] could start moving it um just so
[15:33] everyone online and if anyone's
[15:35] walkinging on YouTube what the county
[15:37] vision is and what our our mission of
[15:38] the board is which is to lead with
[15:40] fiscal responsibility Innovation and
[15:41] compassion which I believe that this
[15:44] budget before the board um today meets
[15:46] those goals of the county and keeping
[15:49] the levy as flat as we can while also
[15:51] maintaining our our fiscal
[15:53] responsibility and Innovation and to be
[15:55] able to deliver a safe and affordable
[15:57] familyfriendly County
[16:01] again we kind of discovered market value
[16:03] questions we've dealt with that I think
[16:04] already so next
[16:06] one agenda for today we're now at number
[16:09] three the 2025 budget overview followed
[16:11] by public
[16:14] comment so where we at are today um
[16:17] we've gone through all of the budgeting
[16:19] process from May June with the budget
[16:21] workbooks being prepared uh the County
[16:23] Board in August held a bunch of
[16:24] committies of the whole um looked at
[16:27] literally every line in this budget
[16:28] every department and went through it
[16:31] made Corrections throughout it in
[16:33] September we passed the preliminary
[16:34] budget and tax levy consideration with a
[16:37] 5.71% proposed Levy increase we are
[16:39] currently here for the truth and
[16:40] Taxation meeting which is our December
[16:43] public budget meeting uh after this
[16:45] meeting then the final Levy would be
[16:47] adopted and submitted to the Minnesota
[16:49] Department of Revenue after the December
[16:51] 17th
[16:53] meeting again where we are at here today
[16:56] um valuations as we kind of discussed
[16:58] earlier were sent out in March of 2024
[17:01] that's based off of your valuation from
[17:04] this says January 1 2024 um again then
[17:08] board reviews the final valuations um we
[17:10] have the truth and Taxation meeting
[17:12] which we are now at at the end of 2024
[17:14] followed by the adoption later on
[17:16] there's our timeline and then we have
[17:17] the payments due in 2025 based off of
[17:21] the prelim Levy or the final Levy
[17:22] that'll be adopted in about 10
[17:27] days so Warrior tax dollars are at work
[17:30] all of our highways we have 516 Mi of
[17:32] roads all of our patrols 911 nine Great
[17:35] River Regional libraries in the county
[17:37] all the programs we provide um across
[17:40] the county our Public Health financial
[17:42] and Social Services with Health and
[17:44] Human Services environmental services
[17:46] including recycling Water Management
[17:48] feed lots and our veteran
[17:52] services and your taxes as far as roads
[17:55] for the past year we had a four for this
[17:57] upcoming budget cycle we are looking at
[18:00] a $4.60 per capita per month cost to
[18:04] Residents that is a decrease from the
[18:05] 2024 amount just slight decrease as you
[18:08] can see in the graph over on the lower
[18:12] left and this is our 5-year Highway plan
[18:15] for 2024 we had a bunch of projects that
[18:17] are labeled in green on here 2025 are
[18:20] the pink projects we have some um in the
[18:23] Northeast part but the vast majority of
[18:25] them are down in the South and Southwest
[18:27] portion of the county for 2025 for our
[18:29] road Highway
[18:31] projects parks and trails for a134 per
[18:35] capita per month we are able to provide
[18:37] access to wri County residents on
[18:40] 4727 Acres of Parkland and outdoor
[18:43] recreation activities one of the big
[18:45] projects we had this year was the
[18:46] lighting of the Robert Nai Trail which
[18:48] started planning process of that almost
[18:51] 20 years ago in the mid ODS so took a
[18:55] lot of planning a lot of grant funding a
[18:57] lot of work to try to get it done and
[18:58] this will be the first winter where
[19:00] anyone going to Robert and I will be
[19:01] able to cross country ski and a lighted
[19:03] Trail this winter if we get some
[19:06] snow uh taxes for public health
[19:10] a131 gives us the the public health
[19:12] initiatives as you can see there's a
[19:14] huge decrease from 2023 after the end of
[19:16] the the co
[19:20] pandemic um law enforcement 911 dispatch
[19:23] that's looking at$ 1179 per month and
[19:26] that gives us the 911 access pays for
[19:29] all of our emergency services with the
[19:30] sheriff's department law enforcement the
[19:33] jail and 911 as I
[19:36] stated A1 31 per capita goes to the
[19:39] library Services again we have nine
[19:41] different branches of the Great River
[19:42] Regional Library in Wright County and
[19:44] that helps pay for it that Levy amount
[19:46] has been or per capita rate has been
[19:49] fairly flat from 2023 24 and
[19:52] 25 we're currently working on
[19:55] distribution of the opioid settlement
[19:56] funds from the litigation we endered
[19:58] into uh against the pharmaceutical
[20:01] Industries we're currently designing and
[20:04] completing specifications for a new
[20:05] household hazardous waste facility at
[20:07] our Compost Facility to enhance
[20:09] efficiencies reduce cost of heating
[20:11] reduce um and any staff outputs out
[20:14] there as well we're currently in the
[20:16] middle of Designing and constructing the
[20:18] highway and Maple Lake out shop uh the
[20:21] law enforcement center roof got replaced
[20:24] uh Crow River Regional Trail Phase 2 is
[20:26] being currently worked on from for to
[20:28] Handover and monii county park is in a
[20:31] Redevelopment
[20:33] redesign so projects completed we
[20:35] completed round about at truck Highway
[20:38] 25 and Casa 83 Bridge replacement on
[20:40] casassa 2 between South Haven and Fair
[20:42] Haven schroer Park Campground
[20:44] Redevelopment we completed light our
[20:46] Imaging flight again as I mentioned
[20:47] earlier the Robert and I and one of our
[20:50] biggest ongoing cost savings we'll have
[20:53] with the highway department going
[20:54] forward is the construction and
[20:56] completion of a road salt brine
[20:57] manufacturing facility ility which will
[20:59] bring the cost of salt brine from
[21:02] $146 per gallon down to 27 cents a
[21:05] gallon saving almost over 100 to
[21:08] $125,000 a year in salt brine
[21:12] production so the 2025 budget the
[21:15] preliminary budget was set at
[21:17] 8,176 35 preliminary Levy was set at
[21:22] $1,427
[21:24] 279 for a
[21:26] 5.71 preliminary Levy increase
[21:29] tax capacity growth was estimated at
[21:35] 1.7% and here are the revenues where we
[21:38] get most of our Revenue as you can see
[21:40] the biggest line is property taxes
[21:42] followed by federal grants state general
[21:44] AIDS take categorical Aid charges for
[21:46] services and then the other revenue
[21:49] streams and the 2025 budget spending as
[21:52] always Personnel is our largest expense
[21:55] um followed by capital outlay and
[21:58] services and
[22:01] charges and how every dollar is spent
[22:03] General government which includes the
[22:05] recorder assessor veteran services
[22:07] Planning and Zoning Finance
[22:08] Administration Information Technology
[22:10] General things just to keep the
[22:12] government running and that impact
[22:14] everyone across the board just generally
[22:16] is $23 for every $100 spent Public
[22:19] Safety is $22 out of every hundred
[22:22] followed by Highway operations at 25 and
[22:24] Human Services at 15 and then the
[22:27] remainder breaks up public Health Parks
[22:29] conservation natural resources Debt
[22:32] Service is $6 and then we just have the
[22:34] other category at
[22:36] two here are comparable counties I think
[22:39] right County is sitting fairly well
[22:41] compared to some of our neighboring
[22:42] counties for our Levy increase this past
[22:45] year at
[22:47] 5.71% and this again information on the
[22:50] screen was provided by the Minnesota
[22:52] inter County Association and numbers may
[22:54] have changed since we originally pulled
[22:56] this data
[22:59] tax capacity versus rate you can see our
[23:01] tax capacity decreased in 22 23 over
[23:05] that time period um but our main goal
[23:09] here as Mr chair probably allude to
[23:11] later and the rest of the board our main
[23:13] objective and passing the budget is to
[23:14] try to make sure that we try to keep a
[23:16] stable increase for people so it's not a
[23:19] huge Spike year-over-year but to try to
[23:21] try to maintain consistency and to try
[23:23] to keep things as flat as we possibly
[23:25] can for
[23:27] people so Mr chair that concludes my
[23:29] presentation I'm happy to pass it over
[23:31] to the board or answer any questions as
[23:34] they come up here thank you
[23:36] administrator kryer uh at this time I
[23:39] don't see anyone from the public present
[23:41] but uh in case there's somebody in the
[23:43] room that's missing that wants to ask
[23:45] some questions please come forward and
[23:46] state your name would anyone like to
[23:49] speak would anyone like to
[23:51] speak would anyone like to speak if not
[23:55] I will close the public hearing and we
[23:58] will if NE some parting comments by
[24:00] board members we will conclude this uh
[24:03] public hearing at
[24:05] 6:20 with that all right thank you
[24:07] everyone