[0:00] e [0:35] this meeting is being [0:58] recorded [1:28] e [1:58] e [2:28] e [2:58] e [3:28] e [3:58] e e [4:47] good morning everyone it is Tuesday February 18th we'll call the r County Board of Commissioners to order we'll [4:53] begin with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the [4:59] flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one [5:04] nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for [5:11] all so does anybody know did we make a record cold yet today it's it's got to [5:17] be uh darn close not even not even close I don't even know what the record is but [5:22] I I know my thermometer said 25 below it I don't know what the windshield was but darn [5:28] cold all right uh first order of businesses we have minutes from uh February 14 uh February 4th and February [5:36] 11th we can approve those three sets of minutes collectively or individually I'll stand for motions or [5:41] modifications so moved second motion by commissioner Shane second by commissioner Holland to approve the [5:47] minutes collectively yes all right any discussion hearing none all in favor say [5:54] I I CL same sign I all right uh minut minutes are approved 41 all right next [6:02] would be the approval of the agenda for today is there anyone that would like to have is there any additions to today's [6:08] agenda Mr chair yes I I would like to pull um this is the agenda not the [6:14] consent okay well is it part of appealing or the next if you want to [6:21] pull some off the consent agenda that would be the next item that would be fine yep so I'll make a motion to approve the agenda all right I'll second [6:27] motion by uh commissioner MOA second by commissioner Holland to approve the agenda as presented any [6:34] discussion hearing none all in favor say I I OPP same sign all right motion [6:40] passes unanimous next today's consent agenda would anyone like to remove anything from today's consent agenda for [6:46] further discussion thank you Mr chair I would like to remove c um number two just that first half that first [6:53] recommendation um and we can put it under items for consideration I guess C [6:58] Maybe from the carry forward [7:05] please see is so it's a motion to approve the consent agenda by [7:10] commissioner Dietrich uh with the removal of C1 Mr chair I think it C2 or C I'm sorry [7:18] C2 I'm sorry C2 uh with referring it down to items for consideration all right H is there a [7:26] second is there a second yes I'll second that all right the [7:31] second by commissioner MOA any discussion we're just discussing whether [7:37] it uh should or should not be pulled uh hearing no discussion all in favor say I [7:43] I I oppos same sign all right and motion [7:48] passes on a 32 all right next would be to uh move on [7:57] to timed agenda or yeah timed agenda items uh first one up [8:03] is Mr mati stepping in for uh Miss O'Hare the approve and adopt the [8:10] resolution to implement the Mississippi River uh St Cloud comprehensive watershed management plan good morning [8:17] Mr chair members of the board there's three actions in front of you today the first one being to approve and adopt the [8:22] resolution to implement the Mississippi River to St Cloud comprehensive Water Management plan um that then would [8:30] provide you with the next action was to do to do the jpa to implement that plan [8:36] and then the other resolution is to then um remove the Water Management task [8:42] force and to delegate the administration of the Water Management plants to the S [8:48] swcd um the other counties involved in this have all taken that action to this point so we're just uh one week behind [8:56] them actually all right any questions otherwise I'll [9:03] entertain a motion Mr chair I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution to delegate Administration and [9:09] implementation of the comprehensive watershed management plans all right motion by commissioner [Music] [9:15] dietr second second by commissioner MOA any further [9:20] discussion hearing none it is a resolution vote uh commissioner mono i i [9:27] i i i resolution passes unanimous thank you do we have to do two resolutions we [9:32] have to do two resolutions and approval of a signature so I will also approve [9:37] and adopt the resolution to implement the miss the Mississippi River St Cloud comprehensive Watership management [9:44] plan all right I'll second that motion by commissioner Dietrich second by commissioner MOA uh any other discussion [9:51] resolution commissioner Shane i i i i i resolution passes unanimously now we [9:57] just need the uh Jaa agreement yep authorization of signatures on such I'll make a motion to [10:03] approve uh to authorize signatures on the joint Powers agreement I'll second all right motion by commissioner MOA [10:09] second by commissioner Holland any other discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I I po same sign all right motion [10:18] passes unanimous thank you all right I know I saw Captain Ferguson out there [10:23] somewhere there we go and looks like Chief is making his [10:29] his way up here as well all right all right good morning Mr chair board uh looking to set a date for [10:36] the 911 committee the 911 planning committee we last met in [10:43] 2022 and laid out phases for some upgrades uh within the main [10:48] Communication Center in the Lac and also the backup center out at the rone [10:54] training center we have had at least four chairs turnover for members of that [11:01] committee so I'd like to catch the new members up uh including the two Commissioners to where we're at and uh [11:08] where we've been and where we're going so just looking to set a date for for that all right [11:14] uh so that would be commissioner MOA commissioner Dietrich that sit on the 911 [11:20] uh committee I guess I will uh leave it out there do you guys had some suggested [11:26] dates I did not have a suggested date I would def to the Commissioners everybody else on the committee as staff and [11:32] should be here uh and available have a particular what's your [11:38] time frame you thinking I guess are you looking sometime in the next uh two weeks or the next 30 days I guess we'll [11:43] help move it along in the next 30 days we find there are some supplemental funds that need to be spent by June of [11:50] this year that would be the only time constraint otherwise it's just the process that's been moving along I would [11:55] ask that we maybe move till that first speak in March um first or second week if that's okay yeah if we if we do a [12:03] Thursday I can guarantee I'm free so okay Thursday March 6th then looks like [12:12] that would work sounds good I'm wide open all right so [12:18] yeah I don't even know that we necessarily have to take um a motion on this because it's just the committee assignment so it's just informational [12:24] getting the date set yeah informational Mr chair we can schedule it um [12:29] I do have a one appointment on the calendar I I I would probably recommend starting at 10:30 if that works yeah I [12:36] think we'll just we we can figure out the the time frame between the three of us I think that day right sounds great [12:43] yeah that works all right very good then with that uh we'll just kind of let you [12:49] guys figure this out and now Chiefs [12:54] here morning Mr chair members of the board so we continue to kind of make progress towards our body War camera uh [13:01] implementation along with Oracle uh statute requires us to schedule a public meeting for comment and input related to [13:09] body cameras since we don't have one currently looking to schedule that with [13:14] uh board recommendations I think it's 30 days [13:20] that puts us to about April 1st I believe the first available board [13:26] meeting um at least 30 days or 30 days passed [13:35] so Mr chair members of the board this hearing does have to coincide with a regularly scheduled board meeting so [13:41] April 1 would suffice I'd say that would probably be for March 18th well I guess [13:47] I I wasn't aware of the 30-day requirement we're only 28 days out from then I'm good with April [13:55] 1 yep I think I am but might be in Washington [14:01] but I thought the 30 days was part of the uh amount of notice or public hearing but if it's not 30 days then [14:09] more is better okay I agree all right I I would suggest we just set it for uh [14:15] 9:30 on April 1st during the County board meeting would be my recommendation if anyone wants to make a motion for [14:20] that I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Shane I'll second second by commissioner Holland to set a [14:26] public hearing uh in regards to body cameras on April 1st at 9:30 during [14:33] the County board meeting all right any other discussion hearing none all in favor say [14:40] I I post same sign all right motion passes unanimous thank you thank [14:47] you we are moving along quite well here all right now moving on to items for [14:52] consideration we have the approve the resolution in support of the right Technical Center bonding request [14:59] yes Mr chair this was requested by um the right technical uh Center looking to [15:04] just give them a formal resolution support of their bonding requests as it goes through the legislature trying to just get this going I don't know if the [15:10] bill has been introduced yet in support of them but at least trying to be in front of it as much as we can on our [15:16] side well I make I'll make the motion to um approve that uh I hope that there's [15:24] some bonding happening this year but yeah yeah I will I will make a motion to [15:29] approve that I'll second all right motion by commissioner Holland second by commissioner Shane to approve the [15:34] resolution to support of the rec Technical Center bonding request any [15:40] discussion hearing none all right uh resolution vote I'll vote i i i i i all [15:47] right resolution passes unanimous all right next we have uh changes to the [15:53] commissioner handbook uh they were all included in there so I guess [15:59] looking to get those formally adopted um I'll make a mo oh wait no [16:08] I'll make a motion to approve those yep it's it's largely [16:14] discussions that came out of the uh uh Workshop the other week so I I I would second that I just [16:21] would like to maybe just add a little bit if I possibly could because that one um I would just like to have something [16:28] in in there with anything that violates the procedure um and any fees that are [16:35] recruited that they be deducted from um the person's expense report to protect [16:41] our taxpaying citizens from obviously we have legal councel that we can rely [16:48] on I'll I'll make a motion with that Amendment then do you want to see actualized [16:55] language or are you okay with making the modification to the policy on the Fly um [17:00] and that's just the only piece that I want to in a Administration I'm going to defer over to you because what you have [17:07] in here is kind of a good framework it doesn't really what they're looking to do is if somebody does violate this what [17:14] is the recourse for it um I'll defer to you administrator yeah Mr chair I think [17:20] we can just take the verbatim record here uh the motion that was made and we can add that to the end of the the paragraph that's where I think that [17:27] would probably go all right so with that we have a motion by [17:32] commissioner Hall and second by commissioner Shane to approve the uh updates the commissioner handbook uh [17:37] with the addition of uh recourse for violation of said policy Mr chair we [17:43] having a discussion on this yes there I just opening it up uh commissioner dri do you have statement I would like to [17:49] say that the commissioner handbook um hasn't been uh followed or consistent um [17:55] for the couple years that I've been on the board um I will read the county commissioner expense reimbursement [18:01] County Commissioner's expenses will be reimbursed in excess of the annual budget allocation without without a [18:08] budget amendment no individual County Commissioner expense will be in reimbursed in EX in excess of the annual [18:14] budget allocation without a budget amendment you just added to your [18:20] commissioner expense in the previous uh motion on the [18:25] agenda for a carry forward to up your additional and if we're going if we're [18:32] going you're on you pull no I already I already I I know that we're um we're [18:38] talking about this is talking about the policies we don't if we're not going to follow the policies and it didn't get [18:44] pulled because you didn't approve it you didn't second it and it didn't get approved for discussion it did get [18:50] approved it got approved 32 it's pulled on this consent agend is C it's C it's on items for consideration [18:57] C2 Okay so we we will be get into that item to discuss right now we're discussing the addition to this policy [19:03] that uh pertains to contracted services and how how and when and who can [19:10] contract uh contact them and I would I would like to clar I would like to [19:16] clarify maybe one piece of that um if you're at a convention and the person is [19:21] presenting uh the information that um we're allowed and every commissioner [19:26] there is allowed to discuss with with the presenter the data that they're providing information on you you by all [19:33] means you can as long as you're not getting billable hours exactly yeah you're you're that we're not preventing that we are we are just stating that we [19:40] if individual board members want to actually go out for outside uh Council uh [19:45] individually what the rules are pring if you read that though it says you cannot talk to um any of our Council official [19:55] Council if you read through that you I mean they may or may not talk to you [20:00] back we are going to let them know our internal policies on this just because it puts them in a very very difficult [20:07] position when they are offering a legal opinion but the legal opinion is only from [20:12] a narrow scope of one individual not the entire board's perspective so their [20:19] outcome may be their response may be jaded just because they didn't get all the information information uh so that's [20:26] the reason we're trying to prevent them from being put into the crosshairs of the internal politics of a board can you [20:31] scroll down to this or can you can can you scroll down to this [20:38] Frank thank [Music] you I meant in the [20:48] packet 189 Frank I'm sure yeah page [20:55] 189 my computer was dying too that's why I didn't bring it out myself [21:02] it was the red right up above thank [21:11] you it states in there on the fourth line all contact with outside legal [21:17] council shall occur through the County Administrator County attorney or designated staff I just want to clarify [21:24] that if we're at a uh presentation at a conference and we're having discussions that um [21:31] doesn't preclude me from or any any other commissioner for having discussions so my interpretation and I [21:39] will defer to legal counsel or to our administrator on it would be that it isn't an official communication unless [21:45] we're build for it uh so therefore you can have those conversations but it wouldn't be anything of a legal record [21:51] it's just a casual conversation we are really bounding ourselves as to if we are incurring a legal opinion and being [21:59] incurring a billable hours then uh this then this would pertain yeah I would [22:05] make that more clear in [22:11] there so please I I don't I don't I think it [22:20] it's I don't know how you want put on a delate that I mean it can you just say [22:25] all billable contact I mean I guess because anything anything [22:31] anything outside of that is is just a casual conversation when you talk it just it does say all kind conversation [22:37] so we can say I'll billable or whatever or official or however you want to word [22:42] that I'll defer to Administration yes I agree Mr chair [22:47] adding the word billable or official um would work I would probably lean more towards the official inserting [22:54] that if it's I mean the board wants to accept that motion [23:00] uh motion makers uh commissioner Holland commissioner Shane are you all right with the uh friendly Amendment friendly Amendment yes all right all right y all [23:09] right is there any other discussion hearing none uh all in favor say I I post same [23:16] sign I all right uh commissioner hbri uh updates are approved 41 all right next [23:23] we have the workshop uh recommendations we have a number of recommendations from the workshop uh [23:31] first one was informational with the scheduling of meetings we had the Historical Society great presentation [23:37] they're doing great work there uh that was informational only we had the recycling grant program and the mou and [23:45] then moving forward with researching a feasibility and desire of townships on uh refuse and recycling collection [23:52] programs and through it joint Powers agreement pardon me hiccups uh then we [23:57] also had the uh 2020 26 uh proposed budget schedule uh this was largely informational just to get uh front of [24:04] the Commissioners on what their plan is for administration with the budget and the timeline then we had the information [24:10] only on the American Rescue plant and general funds and where of all the money has gone and where it is at H sixth [24:18] would be the review request to gain opinion from outside Council uh which stemmed the motion that we just did for [24:25] the updated handbook uh and then the other one was just a closed meeting that took place at [24:33] 10:30 regarding property all right I'll make a motion to accept the [24:38] recommendations second all right motion by commissioner Holland second by commissioner Shane to approve the County Board Workshop recommendations any [24:47] discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I post same sign all right [24:53] recommendations passed unanimously next we have the approv one of the two [24:59] recommendations from the Ways and Means Committee uh that took place on February 11th so on February 11th Ways and Means [25:07] met the first was to approve the letter of intent and authorization authorized [25:12] signatures uh on per uh letter of attent on real property and then the other one [25:18] would be to move forward uh to a further discussion with that information Mr chair yes presented to you um from the [25:26] ways of Means Committee as the amended letter of intent for property located at 311 Brighton Avenue South in Buffalo if [25:32] the board has any discussion on it staff would recommend going to close session for that discussion if not I believe the [25:38] matter is ready for approval or for I should say for for [25:44] consideration so right now we're just looking to formalize the that uh that [25:50] recommendation from the ways and means which prior to that we had a group holistic discussion on it so it's kind [25:55] of on the same pathway so I just want to make sure that it is on the record that signing a letter of intent does not does [26:02] that require the county to pay any money if we back out of the deal later on no [26:08] no this is simply um a framework for drafting a purchase agreement [26:15] y all right then with that I'll entertain a motion so moved motion by [26:21] commissioner MOA second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say [26:28] I I oppose same sign all right motion passes unanimous all right uh now we have the [26:35] consent agenda item uh C2 uh was the approv the list of uh restricted amounts [26:42] required by law and authoriz a standard carry forward for the 2024 budget uh I know that myself was in there and I was [26:49] carrying a forward because I had spent uh virtually almost none of my travel account last year and with the [26:56] possibility of some other uh legislative conferences and travel that may take place this year may not uh I carry [27:03] forward it if not I will return it back as and turn back dollars which is a very [27:08] possibility and com commissioner Dietrich sure I just wanted to um I'm concerned about a carry [27:16] forward when you haven't expensed what you do have currently um we were told clearly at the end of last year from the [27:23] workshop that um you you fit your expenses into the allocated budget for [27:28] the Commissioners um in your own words at the workshop um you're setting the 2025 commissioner expense at [27:36] $2,700 as of January 1st but we'll actualize the overages from 2024 with a negative carry forward Commissioners who [27:43] went over their budgets in 2024 will have that amount removed from their expense allocations in 2025 any money [27:49] remaining in the commissioner's expense Accounts at the end of December will be return to the general fund so [27:55] essentially you don't have funds in your account um to move forward and then if you look [28:01] at the policy for the county commissioner expense reimbursement it states that county commissioner expense [28:07] will be reimbursed in exx of the annual budget allocation without it I'm sorry [28:13] no individual County Commissioner expense will be reimbursed in excess of the annual budget allocation without a [28:19] budget amendment so Mr chair I'm this isn't fitting with what we've approved [28:25] in the workshop and what we've approved for our Financial policy manual um so [28:30] I'm asking that this uh carry forward does not get approved um based on that information so that we're consistent um [28:38] with our practices and it should be a budget amendment not a carry forward according [28:45] to our uh right County financial policy manual for County Commissioner expense [28:50] would you like the wording changed should we change the wording I I guess I to me I think it's a split of the hairs [28:57] whether you I mean you have to expend them first the difference carry forward [29:02] it but you don't have funds in your account it's went to the general fund it says at the end of the [29:09] year in the in the in the workshop expense out any money remaining [29:16] in the commissioner expense Accounts at the end of December will be returned to the general fund it that's what happened [29:22] last year and the year before as well if you had any expenses it got put back into the general fund it did not carry [29:29] over we have a set amount annually that we have approved um I would suggest if [29:34] if you're going to have you know more expenses than you then the amount should be increased if we think of going to DC [29:41] or different things for the lobbying purposes which I'm not opposed to otherwise just fit it into the amount um [29:48] that you allocated in December of $2,700 and and if you go if you go over [29:55] and need a budget amendment to get reimbursed per our expense policy then [30:00] we do that chairman vet I you know what I think it's sad that we're to the point [30:08] where we're uh pigeon ho holding everybody into an expense report but that was because we had somebody uh uh [30:17] like way over budget um that we've never seen in the commissioner ranks before so [30:24] and then last year we did not realize that we need commissioner vetch to go uh [30:29] to various um lobbying efforts we uh and [30:35] and I don't feel for the last four years uh commissioner vetch has barely touched [30:42] his uh account I feel like now that we've had some things come up that we [30:48] need him to uh to go as our chair I feel like I would um entertain a motion to do [30:55] an amendment a budget amendment so that we can move forward Derek's um expense [31:03] report so that he can uh so we can send him to uh [31:09] Washington and then there'll be plenty of funds in there for that yeah commissioner Holland thank you [31:16] um you know it's I I look at this it's so weird because you know in in my 10 [31:23] years of being on here we've never ever had to individualize commissioner uh expens [31:28] accounts you know because of individuals that have spent more than their share [31:34] per se we've actually had to go to individualized amounts and because there was es and flows because you don't [31:39] necessarily some years you you have a lot of things that are in your district and a lot of things that you need to go to things and the amount can e and [31:46] flowing and hence the reason for a carry forward uh and some years you if you go over we allow you to carry for your [31:53] negative into your next year and spend vice versa uh [31:58] and it's unbelievable how this has gotten to be uh as controversial as it [32:05] has been uh like before I we had one po one line item that we shared amongst five Commissioners and we can't do that [32:12] anymore and now now it's even got to the point where we're we're questioning how each each other's how we all spend it I [32:18] mean I'm I'm interested in almost wanting to have a presentation that shows you how the money I've spent every single Dollar on every single [32:23] commissioner over the last couple years maybe we want to have that discussion and uh it's I because I'm fine with it because [32:30] I've literally most of my davel I spend and pay for all my fuel out of my own money out of my own pocket I don't use [32:38] any County vehicles never have driven a County vehicle never intend to drive a County vehicle um so to me it's about [32:45] leveraging the money to get as much bang for the buck for the taxpayer as we possibly can uh and with this likelihood [32:52] this is following the traditional pathway pathway whether uh staff may [32:58] have misguided me in telling me to use it as a carry forward or a budget amendment but to me I think they're they're all one and the same you this is [33:06] this process is no different than any other department head or even or Commissioners and it's within the [33:11] handbooks parameters in my opinion to carry forward it's just no different than a negative balance carry forward [33:16] that you have commissioner Dietrich I'm having a positive uh balance carry forward uh so Mr chair I think jeie um [33:26] made a motion so I'll go ahead and second that did you motion go ahead said I'm sorry if I should have cleared the [33:33] floor there if I missed that motion on that I just thought that was a statement so you have a motion by commissioner Holland and second by commissioner Shane [33:40] and the motion was to uh am move it forward yep Mr chair and commissioner [33:46] Holland commissioner Shane is the motion to approve everything as presented on consent or are you limiting it because [33:54] these other items staff is looking to have approved so I I know we're talking about only one specific item in the carry forwards but staff is looking for [34:00] everything to be approved and I don't want to make sure that the motion includes everything if we can sounds [34:05] like that's the direction the board is going so I just want to confirm that yes so you have a motion by commissioner Holland second by uh commissioner Shane [34:13] to approve the carry forwards as uh presented in the consent agenda Mr chair [34:19] also confirming the second item there which is to approve the authorization to designate fund balance in the special [34:25] Revenue Debt Service capital projects funds according to the County's fund balance policy and accounting standards [34:31] that was part two of that item C2 okay [34:36] discussion yes there's discussion um Mr chair I would just like to clarify that [34:41] the funds that I had spent as a commissioner um I had requested as per [34:47] your direction um on the board as the chair that we could request those funds [34:53] to be covered by those Commissioners that and remaining funds in The Joint uh [34:59] commissioner expense account to cover those and you guys went ahead and changed that policy to a carry forward [35:07] at a meeting in at the workshop in December that I was not attending and did not have input in and I'm so you [35:14] changed that policy um and then moving forward um I I just don't know where to [35:20] stand I don't know how to you say this is difficult when you guys are the ones changing the rules [35:29] I actually would like to have more discussion on this maybe at a workshop [35:35] um as far as the policy for that goes um I don't have it in front of me [35:40] but what does it say for how long you can carry forward just just because I wouldn't you know say I don't use [35:46] anything for four years I get to go on a heck of a lot of fun trips in my fourth [35:51] year so I just want to make sure that we kind of have more parameters about that [35:57] and maybe a a set process of a time frame of when you need to request that [36:02] if you're planning in October that next year you're going to do you know New [36:07] Orleans and DC that you're requesting to move funds forward and they need to be done by the end of the previous year um [36:15] I just think there'd be some good discussion on those topics so that there were parameters around it and and like I [36:21] said so that in year four I don't have $10,000 that I get to go out and you [36:26] know spend doing what whatever I I I I would agree with that I I've really liked this kind of uh this like you say [36:33] the handbook and the parameters to it are but I will go back when I came on [36:38] this board there was no handbook there was no policies we've this is growing immensely as we realize situations we've [36:46] added in and adopted policies uh I think this is a good discussion to clean that up and make it a better level of clarity [36:52] to it especially from a negative uh carry forward because I would say once you're elected term you can't carry over [36:58] into a next term so you any negative carry forwards would have to be reconciled before they you can't carry [37:04] into a negative bounce the same with the positive balance we have to have an articulable that you can't carry that [37:09] over from one election to another election as well so there there's pieces that we have to that we right now I [37:16] think we would assume would be inherited in practices but I think we need to have it written and writing as well Mr chair [37:23] I think that's a really good idea because there was some um if you want to call it violations against things being [37:30] approved and not approved and just showing up so I think that would be a really good discussion because then you [37:35] don't just get to show up and charge the [37:40] taxpayers so with that being said not to delay it but would it be possible to remove the [37:49] the carry forward for your balance because I imagine you're not going to use it in in next week so could we just [37:57] put that on I don't know what agenda would be cuz I don't know when our next Workshop [38:03] isn't for 3 weeks Workshop is on March 11th commissioner MOA so it wouldn't be [38:08] until March 18th I guess agenda after we make those changes but just to make sure [38:14] that everything is in in line with the policy that we're developing absolutely that I I have no [38:20] problem with that like at the the end of the day uh I'm open to the discussion I [38:25] was looking forward to uh just having the options to work with uh members of [38:31] the board and help Drive uh the desires of the county and if they and I think [38:36] this is a great conversation so and like I said I I am if if that is not it like I said I am generally okay with using my [38:44] own money to do what I need to do uh to do the job so it doesn't bother me by any stretch but uh pointed out by other [38:52] uh individuals that I should try to use a more similar practice so uh Mr chair I [38:58] I wholeheartedly agree with that and I think that you have been using your own funds and your own vehicle um long [39:06] enough um I think the work that you do is very very important and we need you [39:11] to be able to show up and show interest and be there for our constituents here [39:17] in R County so would you like the emotion to [39:23] because we still have some carry forward we staff would like to approve that other items on the list yes please so [39:29] should we do it the second item all of the there there's two that were taken [39:34] off so it's just the second one of the two well you have the carry forward staff would like to get the carry forwards you can remove one of those [39:40] carry forwards which is the one we're talking about from that list for consideration later but we would like to move forward with the other items and [39:47] then number two part two yes we are looking to approve that as well or could we keep them um can we keep the [39:53] amendment we can make the vote we can keep it just for this year can we do this carry forward for this [39:59] one time only um Mr chair commissioner Holland the commiss the carry forwards are done annually on an annual basis and [40:06] approved by the board annually so if you were to do this again next year with another carry forward it would come to the board again and the board would be [40:12] able to review and see it at that point in time these only go forward for one year at a time oh so Mr chair there is a [40:19] motion on the table there was second we can at least you know we can run that through if it doesn't work then we'll go [40:24] from there I mean either way we have to have the discussion about how we're goingon to deal with this policy going forward so right now the motion is to [40:31] approve the uh C2 uh in its in verbatim what's being requested uh for the carry [40:39] forwards is are you amending it uh commissioner Holland commissioner Shane just leave it the way it is and then [40:44] we'll schedule a committee the whole to discuss the at a later date yeah Mr chair or the the item for discussion if [40:52] the board doesn't want to move that right now we'll add that to the agenda for consideration on March 4th setting [40:57] the agenda for March 11th the workshop that's usually how we do it but staff will make that notation so unless the [41:03] board wants to make a motion now but we always set the agenda on March 4th all right so right now uh I guess uh the [41:09] motion is by commissioner Holland is to approve C2 as presented with the stated [41:16] carry forwards uh and fund balance and uh special Revenue Debt Service and [41:21] capital projects according to the County's fund balance policy uh is there [41:27] any other discussion no amendments to the uh motion all right I will I'll amend to [41:33] take that one item off of your the motion maker would have to uh adopt the sure sure well what what commissioner [41:40] MOA had said was just take that one off your carry forward and we can address that at the workshop that's at the [41:47] motion maker in seconds uh piece so let's vote on this one and so now [41:52] there's a mo no other discussion all right motion by uh commissioner Holland second by commissioner Shane to adopt C2 [41:59] uh as presented all in favor say I I pose same sign I I all right motion [42:06] passes [42:12] 32 with that uh we end today's uh agenda as there's no other business to attain [42:19] to at [42:26] 9:37 e