[4:13] We There we go it's 9:01 on Tuesday November 21st we'll call the right County Board of Commissioners to order [4:19] we'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the [4:25] flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one [4:30] nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for [4:36] all good morning everyone uh we have a pretty robust agenda here today so we'll [4:42] start with with it uh first item would be the minutes uh from a variety of uh [4:48] meetings from October 16th through uh November 15th they can be approved [4:53] individually or collectively I will entertain any corrections modifications or a motion Mr chair yes uh starting [5:01] with the first one the committee of the hold 1016 I'd make a motion to approve all [5:07] except item two so you're except for the [5:12] 117 no not the other meeting minutes but just that one in particular I've got [5:17] some other comments on the other ones also I I didn't want to do a blanket okay so my motion was just going to [5:23] apply to the 1016 Committee of the whole except for item two which was the [5:30] facility lease rate for the dental clinic because I'm not in favor of that [5:35] but I would make a motion to approve the rest of them so we're just doing minutes not in favor of it just [5:42] there's modific it's not the recommendations it's just the uh minutes so if you have corrections to the [5:48] minutes and what was actually recorded would be entertaining at this point okay then uh I have a correction for the [5:56] meeting minutes on the County Board Workshop okay we're talking about the ashb discussion [6:02] and I made the point that I wasn't in favor of cutting down perfectly healthy [6:08] ash trees and that's not noted in there so that should be noted in the minutes [6:13] okay um otherwise uh commissioner catchmark are you okay with the approval of the minutes from 10:16 117 uh 117 uh [6:22] secondary meeting 11:14 the two meetings on that one well Broadband one is one [6:28] that myself and uh commissioner Shan on and the ways of mean would be myself and commissioner [6:34] Holland but I I just I got a question for you Mr chair on the protocol but I [6:40] wanted since we're all here to discuss this hazardous household waste committee that's under that 117 board meeting so [6:49] would it take a motion in a second and then up for discussion or should we just you can do it either way uh once I have [6:56] a you can have discussion prior to a motion but once a motion is made uh we need a second before we can have any [7:02] other further discussion okay then i' just like to open that up for discussion then okay so uh you want to discuss the [7:09] minutes otherwise if you want to discuss the recommendations the recommendations would be later on in the meeting under [7:15] items for consideration that's when a discussion about modifying the recommendations at this point we'd be [7:20] only discussing the language within the minutes but that County board meeting is [7:25] has got its own motion you know with in the meeting that's not going to be discussed again right that's the County [7:33] board meeting minutes from 117 so the meet okay the minutes itself [7:38] from the board meeting right yeah that one would not be discussed again so you want to discuss the minutes you want [7:46] we so you're looking to undo an action from the November 7th right and it was a [7:51] followup because we talked about the workshop but this is the first meeting that we are all here to talk about that [7:57] the only way you can undo in action from a previous board meeting is if you were in the descending vote you could recall [8:03] or if you were on the uh losing end of a vote somebody on the other side would have to flip the their vote to want to [8:10] reconsider it otherwise if you were on the descending side of the vote uh you wouldn't be able to reconsider it [8:16] prevailing side Mr chair can we just address this in the recommendation I think it's it's it's not a [8:22] recommendation though it's it's part of a meeting meeting agenda and it's now [8:28] part of the meeting minutes and we had talked about it at the workshop but we [8:33] weren't all here to discuss at that point and at the point of the workshop it was already done also so why don't [8:41] you talk in detail what you're what you're considering okay sure so thank you Mr chair so the Hazardous household [8:46] waste committee that was formed when I was gone at a workshop it was to appoint [8:52] two Commissioners I'm given it more thought I I it doesn't seem like I'd be a good [8:58] fit on it this is two districts away from District 5 I don't have a lot of input from District five people on the [9:05] wants and needs out there lead me to believe there's not a lot of them using it we had two Commissioners that are [9:12] right in that area that were very vocal and verbal about keeping it as is where is and I was surprised to read that [9:19] neither one is on this now when we talked at the workshop last week Mr chair you said hey I'd be fine being on [9:26] that if you don't want to be at this time I'd take you up on that offer if unless commissioner dck was interested [9:32] but this is the first meeting that all five of us have been at to otherwise I'm [9:37] speaking for you you're not here people are speaking for me I'm not here so uh so that's where I'm at I the passionate [9:45] part comment that you had made yes I but my passion has kind of come and went because the thing has gotten decided on [9:52] it's going to stay there it's in two districts away the it seems like it be [9:59] be more of a survey done by the locals per se plus we have some contract use from people not in my district also that [10:05] Barry has uh explained to us but so if you're still interested in that I'll stop talking Mr chair I mean at that day [10:12] I had it also you know said I would be willing to to be on that committee so [10:17] however it works out it's fine and as stated at the workshop uh it if you we had noted at the workshop if you were [10:24] not interested in participating in that committee there was a number of us that would be willing to take that role uh I will refer to you uh commissioner [10:30] Dietrich if you'd like to sit on it but if not I will happily fill that vacancy I can do that okay uh at this time I'll [10:37] entertain a motion to replace commissioner catchmark on the household uh hazardous waste uh planning committee [10:44] for the facility uh with replacing commissioner catchmark with commissioner Dietrich is there a motion I'll make [10:51] that motion motion by commissioner catchmark I'll second second by commissioner Holland is there any further discussion on this [10:57] matter hearing none all in favor say I I oppos same sign motion passes [11:03] unanimously at this time we'll come back to approving those minutes from uh 10:16 [11:09] to 11:15 I'll make that motion Mr chair second that with that one correction on [11:15] the meeting minutes which I think a minute taker has right okay 11 all right [11:20] so we have a motion by commissioner cat Mark second by commissioner Holland is there any further [11:26] discussion hearing none all in favor say I hi oose same sign all right motion passes [11:32] unanimously all right uh next item is the review and approval of today's [11:38] agenda is there anything else anyone would like to add to the agenda yes I would like to add um on an agenda uh the [11:44] cancellation of the public meeting on December 18th for uh CD 19 and 16 all [11:52] right we'll add the discussion of the public hearing that was scheduled for December 18th at 5:00 p.m. for County [11:57] ditch 19 and 16 uh we'll put that under items for consideration that'll be items for [12:04] consideration uh [12:14] B2 all right is there any other additions to today's meeting Mr chair you could also put under item G the time [12:20] item when Matt's here I guess we could do that H thank you uh attorney kryer I will move the actually that's a better [12:26] fit for it before Matt would leave let's move it to uh that to be G2 G4 actually G the end [12:34] all right G4 will be the ditch 16 and 19 [12:42] discussion all right is there any other modifications or Corrections today's [12:48] agenda hearing none I'll entertain a motion so moved motion by commissioner Dietrich second by commissioner Holland [12:55] any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I hi oh same sign motion [13:01] passes unanimously next is the consent agenda for today is there anyone that [13:06] would like to add or remove anything from today's consent agenda I'll make a motion to [13:13] approve second that all right motion by commissioner dietr second by commissioner Holland any further [13:20] discussion hearing none all in favor say I I oppose same [13:25] sign the consent agenda is approved unanimously moving on to today's timed agenda items the 9005 the approved [13:32] signatures of the wri County Board chair for on the US fish and wildlife certification on Wetland [13:40] easement uh good morning Mr chair members of the board I was reached out to by Blair mace with the US fish and [13:46] wildlife uh service to ask for approval on a signature of a wetland easement on [13:52] a parcel of property Blair is with us today to explain that easement and his [13:57] request good morning Commissioners morning uh did everybody receive the letter from [14:04] November 6th in regards to our easement that we are going to try to acquire yes [14:12] okay um we present every acquisition we are requiring to the county Boards of [14:17] Commissioners for certification and then to the land exchange board for approval [14:22] uh the land exchange this is due to a procedural agreement between the R and [14:29] the US Fish Wildlife service in 1962 requesting that we get [14:35] certification from County boards prior to going to the land exchange board for [14:41] every acquisition that we make um the land exchange board consists [14:46] of the governor auditor and attorney general and they meet quarterly and [14:52] these e or this easement will be presented to the land exchange board in [14:57] March February whenever their next one is didn't release the schedule yet um [15:03] this easement will be funded through the migratory bird conservation act the duck [15:09] stamp act and not tax dollars so every duck stamp that's purchased from Hunters [15:15] 99 Cents goes to 99 Cents out of every dollar goes to purchasing easements with [15:22] the fish M life service um the Wetland easen I have today for your consideration [15:29] is with Daniel and amand the Hess of Anand Del Minnesota uh this is a wetland [15:34] easement that protects one Basin consisting of approximately 1.7 Acres it [15:41] is located in section 10 of French Lake Township and the Wetland easement [15:46] protects the Wetland Basin from being drained burned leveled or [15:52] filled if it goes dry naturally they can mow it and farm it or whatever they want [15:58] to do but they just can't do it unnaturally um the easement is Perpetual [16:04] the land owner continues to pay taxes on the property because the land stays in private [16:10] ownership we control and access are still part of the land owners rights is [16:16] there any questions no not here uh chair I'd have a quick question just to make [16:22] sure there's like no ditch along that property so there would be a conflict of [16:28] training no NOP the main reason we're trying to get an easement with thees is [16:34] because there's a waterfoul production area right next to them and we want to restore that one Basin that's shared on [16:41] the property line so that's why we're trying to do it this way Mr chair and I [16:47] haven't had any comment from the public for or against on this but heavily relying on waterfall production and [16:54] that's the purpose of this and you said 99 cents of every duck stamp money goes [17:00] how many people are buying how many duck stamps are being sold typically in Minnesota now they're they're down from when I was buying them that's a number [17:08] I'd have to get back to you all right well you threw it out there so I thought I'm I'm wondering but uh we can exchange [17:15] emails later okay thank you a duck stamp's required by every waterfoul [17:22] Hunter right so that's a lot well not as many as not as many as used to be yes in [17:28] perspective what you have to work with though thank you no thank you is there any further discussion on this all right [17:36] this time I'll entertain a motion I'll make a motion to approve it all right we [17:42] have a motion by commissioner catchmark second second by commissioner diet is there any further discussion hearing none all in favor say [17:48] I I hi Poe same sign the motion pass is unanimous okay thank you so much thank [17:55] you all right uh the item number number B on the agenda the attorney kryer on a [18:02] staff is requesting that the County Board of Commissioners schedule a date and time for a public hearing to consider adopting a moratorium on [18:09] cannabis uh attorney krysler do you have any comments yeah Mr chair members of the board staff is at the point where [18:15] we're looking to set up a moratorium for the recent cannabis legalization we are [18:22] looking at having the public hearing on either December 12th or December 19th at 9:30 um I gu [18:28] staff's preference would probably be the 12th try to get this going because I think the 19th will probably be a busier meeting as it gets near the end of the [18:35] year so the 12th would be a good one we are just looking at trying to with this moratorium it would place a freeze on [18:42] anything going with Planning and Zoning at that aspect for um opening new shops [18:48] within the unincorporated areas of the counties so the townships we would be looking at then undertaking a process of [18:55] studying and then regulating cannabis within the county at that point in time we have received a [19:00] number of consents or joint power agreements from townships and from cities I think a couple cities have um [19:07] don't have the exact numbers in front of me today right now but we are looking at partnering with a number of our jurisdictions here to regulate cannabis [19:14] in their area so this will help us start the studying process for that and to [19:19] really get into the meets and and everything dealing with the regulations of it I appreciate uh your comments on [19:27] that uh number of different Miss uh municipalities across the state have already even acted such uh moratoriums [19:33] uh we had discussions about this back in July uh we felt that it was a little bit too early to start that uh research uh [19:42] phase of it uh now we are at the point where we need to begin having uh bigger [19:47] discussions on what our involvement will be with that of the cities and actually start developing a plan on how we will [19:53] deal with this from a Planning and Zoning perspective as well as that from a licensing perspective Ive especially [19:59] as the state hopefully will be rolling out more information to us in the months ahead as we get closer to 2025 uh where [20:07] on sale licensing will be uh required to be available so with that do we have an [20:15] mpca meeting that same morning for some reason 10:30 yeah [20:21] yep will we have enough time I I'm not expecting this public hearing to be a [20:28] very robust although I could be uh wrong I have been wrong before uh largely at [20:34] this point there really isn't anything that we're stopping per se because there isn't really the ability to get license [20:40] at this point we're really making a declaration that we are going to begin the process of researching and uh having [20:48] deeper discussions in developing internal policies to how we will manage cannabis in the upcoming year Mr chair [20:57] is this typical mark atorium length then it's up to a year but no longer this one we can go all the way to January 1 of [21:04] 2025 uh so we we get a little bit more than a year because we we just have to be out of the moratorium uh as of [21:10] January 1 when sales are licensing is me needs to be available to the public to [21:16] be able to buy the licensing required to be able to sell cannabis oh okay thank you and Mr chair and for the board's [21:23] information as well here our office has been investigating and researching um what other jurisdictions have done in [21:30] Denver and Michigan and Illinois to see what they're at and I think now is a good time for us to start the study once [21:36] we've kind of gathered that information and come forward with some of the best practices we've seen from across the the [21:41] country as far as regulations and at this time I think it's good for us to start formulating our questions as we [21:46] can start sending them down to the State Office of cannabis so that they can maybe react on questions that we may [21:53] have locally uh there might be things that might get missed in this process so I think it'd be important for us to be [21:58] able to start developing those questions and submitting them down to the state so Mr chair could we could we set this for [22:06] 9:30 during the board meeting then my intentions would be at 9:30 on December 12th would be my intentions I'll make [22:11] that motion all right motion by commissioner catchmark I'll second that second by commissioner Holland is there [22:17] any discussion I think uh uh chairman I think our Public Health too uh will be a [22:24] lot happier once we start it's right now the big wild wild West and I feel sorry [22:29] for Sarah so I think it's good that we're moving forward [22:35] quickly no other discussion all in favor say I I oppose same sign motion passes [22:42] unanimously we have a public hearing now set for December 12th at 9:30 a.m. here [22:47] regarding on the Cannabis moratorium moving on to item C taxpayer [22:52] Services uh we have item number one the overall license center update Jesse [22:58] thank you good morning well I have some fun news to bring to you all today uh license center [23:05] is doing well so I provided you all with some numbers to show the growth that [23:10] we're seeing over the last three years uh I took a quick peek this morning and we've already surpassed our driver's [23:16] license numbers from last year uh and we still have a month and a little bit to go here in [23:23] November overall I just want to say our exam room is going great we seeing huge [23:28] growth in that um motor vehicle is rebounding those a lot of those [23:34] transactions went to the state when the online became really popular but people want to come and see us so everything is [23:39] going great DNR numbers will look good after December December's our second busiest month for DNR registration so [23:46] don't worry that that number looks a little small for what I had provided you'll probably be most curious [23:53] in that kiosk update that I provided I pulled some numbers off our kiosk April of 2 is when we opened through last year [23:59] we had 47,000 people check in to our license center uh this year January to [24:05] October we had over 57,000 people check into the kiosk so we've never been able [24:10] to quantify how many customers have used our office that kiosk obviously quantifies that so um it's been a huge [24:18] benefit to have that queuing system it makes our office run efficiently and then our drive-thru my clerks when [24:25] somebody pulls up and they determine they can process a transaction or provide the customer service to the drive-thru they direct admit them so [24:32] when I pull the direct admit reports last year we had just under 3,000 and we're probably going to easily exceed [24:39] 6,000 transactions so still room to grow in that D in that drive-thru I think um [24:44] it's still a service I'd like to Market and find different ways to get the word out there but our our service center is [24:50] growing the constituents seem to enjoy it uh and they're still coming from all over so we're still seeing uh lots of [24:57] people coming from surrounding areas and we get a lot of positive comments about that uh just in general in case if [25:04] you're curious we are still offering appointments we offer them pretty limited as the majority of people really [25:09] want to come in and just renew their tabs or their license when they have time they don't want to schedule but [25:15] some people like that so we're still offering appointments we are offering for about 35 to 40 written exam [25:22] appointments on our exam days and we still offer walk-ins on exam so that's been really beneficial to people who [25:29] waited a while to take a test unfortunately didn't pass they're able to walk into our service uh Center and [25:35] go ahead and take that exam the state did roll out some additional options we can offer the exam now in eight [25:41] languages when we started we could only do two and we also have audio version available so we have headphones at every [25:47] terminal if the tester would like to utilize that so that's been heavily utilized by many of our [25:54] testers as far as the phone calls um we have found a a really great way to manage all of our incoming calls we [26:00] typically return all messages by the end of the day so that has been something that we've really been able to get a [26:06] good handle on uh if we can't get to anything or all the messages we return them the next business day so uh we are [26:13] definitely seeing a more manageable flow with phone calls coming in uh we were very overwhelmed with phone calls [26:19] previously so that's been good we want to get the customers their information back quickly too and then a little bit [26:25] of a I guess unplanned benefit of our drive-thru is we have been accepting property tax payments through the [26:31] drive-thru so we were having constituents drive up everything ready to go can I drop this off here why not [26:37] why not why make them pull around to come in to drop it off so during those heavy tax weeks we go ahead and bring [26:44] those down to taxpayer Services uh so that's been a positive we're trying to just let everyone know [26:51] we have that drive-through there uh don't come in and wait inside when there's long lines use that drive-through if you can and then as far [26:58] as legislatively it was a massive session this year so some really high level highlights we finally got some fee [27:04] increases that we get to keep on site here so that's been nice um Motor [27:09] Vehicle sales tax rate went up so my clerks have been having some difficult conversations people are just paying more at our counter they're paying more [27:16] for everything uh so they have been doing a very good job balancing that [27:21] good customer service while also understanding these are some pretty hefty bills that the customers are now [27:27] having to pay before uh the state did remove that requirement for new [27:32] residents coming in to test so we anticipated that to kind of put a decline in our exam room however with [27:39] the deal for all initiative it balanced out so we are seeing a positive influx [27:44] in exams for the deal for all initiative even though the expected decline in [27:49] those new residents coming in not needing a test so that's balanced out upcoming we have some exciting stuff [27:56] so we get another dollar increased search charge on all motor vehicle transactions that again we get to keep [28:02] internally that's to try to help offset all those online transactions that the state is able to process we also are [28:09] required to provide a new service which we will be able to collect a fee for my staff will start going undergoing [28:14] training we have to do driver and Vehicle Record requests and crash reports that are counters starting in [28:20] January 1 no idea what that's going to look like uh and how that works but we do get to retain a fee as well as we [28:26] will collect a fee for the state for that report uh we also have uh the veterans [28:33] will get a benefit here uh 100% service connected uh disability veterans will be able to get a free driver's license or [28:40] ID card and free vehicle registration starting January 1 I have worked with Greg already on that to let his uh [28:47] customers know so that is a no fee transaction we are required to provide by the state uh and then kind of [28:53] something a little bit fun it's fun to provide fun news is we have have some new specialty plates that we anticipate [28:59] to be very popular so the blackout plate it's all black plate with white lettering looks like the Minnesota plate [29:05] just black and the Vikings plate will be coming January 1 so we should be getting those on hand shortly and we'll be able [29:12] to sell them in the New Year twins Viking or twins wild lyns and [29:17] Timberwolves designs will be coming in the new year as well and then lastly the biggest news [29:22] you probably want to hear the state exam station they are moving so last day will [29:28] be November 29th here in Buffalo they will close for a couple of weeks and reopen at their new location on [29:34] Commercial Drive they're going from two days a week to 5 days a week they will be also offering driver's license and [29:42] permit applications on site so we don't really know how this will overall impact us they are following the state standard [29:48] of being by appointment only for written test classd and the road tests they will offer the CDL motorcy and motorcycle [29:55] written tests by walk-in but the all the other tests will be by appointment only [30:00] we'll see what their availability is actually going to look like how many tests they'll be able to perform um and [30:06] if they'll be able to handle all of those applications for those customers so after a couple of months we'll have [30:12] to assess the impact of that new station and how how that affects our flow [30:18] whether it be more customers walking in every day uh new customers how our exam [30:23] room looks but overall it's just been a It's been a busy year legislatively for our office uh we're seeing an increase [30:30] in customers overall but uh they're finding us they're liking our service center so so you're commented that the [30:39] one in Buffalo the new one that they're opening the state site is the road knowledge you said is can be appointment [30:45] by appointment only for both Road and knowledge yep that's the state standard unfortunately uh they switch during [30:52] covid to just go by appointment only for the class D Statewide and as of two [30:58] months ago they still confirm that is the route going forward and which is it's disappointing it's very [31:05] disappointing if you right now you went online and if you have to go to a state site for a Knowledge Test just to take [31:11] the actual Knowledge Test it's about running about 60 days out and you would be lucky to get that appointment to be [31:18] within 30 40 miles of where you're at road test you're you're out no chance [31:24] yeah no chance you're out about four to 6 months and will likely be driving to mano or uh very much out Grand Rapids [31:33] you're going to be driving quite far yes so we plan on continuing to offer our written tests by walk-in we encourage [31:40] appointments if they're available and that fits in the customer schedule uh but it's just not realistic people fail [31:47] and they're going to want to retry the next day uh so our walk-ins have you [31:53] know positively impacted we have still people driving an hour from an hour away to come come to our service center so [31:58] they're driving the distance for sure to go to state exam stations so it's really I don't know how we will be fully [32:05] impacted uh we have a pretty loyal customer base and we have parents that [32:11] are saying go to go to the license center they have it all down so and and at the end of the day I don't know how [32:16] many appointments they're going to offer well and I really appreciate Jesse your help that you've had here with the board [32:22] uh R county has advocated uh very hard over the last four years to the state to [32:30] help us help you is the approach that we've had we've made numerous suggestions and delegating Authority for [32:36] us to do everything from uh commercial knowledge tests to being able to take an unlimited amount of Class D knowledge [32:43] tests to motorcycle tests anything to lower their burdens so they can get these appointments into a more [32:49] reasonable time frame and to this point it has fallen on deaf ears at the [32:55] legislator and at the DPS off office um we'll continue that fight forward at [33:01] this time I I would rally citizens to uh cry foul on what DPS is doing and how [33:08] far they are making citizens drive to take a knowledge test or a road test it is truly truly unfair it is yes we get [33:16] the calls all day so we tried our best to to help them out but we'll gladly take any of the Class D knowledge tests [33:23] off anyone's hands we have an awesome um set up in our office since the state [33:28] didn't want to take advantage of it so we might as well but Mr Sher yes I would just have to pass on I've get feedback [33:35] of what a great job you do with C customer service in the process so thank you very much to all your staff yeah I [33:42] have a great team M Mr chair I just first off want to say thanks for taking that tax payment service I you know [33:49] taking them in that y that was that's a great service that you're adding in as just an extra so we appreciate that also [33:56] can you talk a little bit what is this CRA this is something new the crash report so still to be determined we [34:03] haven't gotten the training yet so right now currently you can only get these specific reports going through the state [34:10] uh I was under the impression it wasn't a large amount however when I was seeing uh some of the numbers that it was up to [34:16] 16,000 reports a month I'm a little bit like what is going to walk through our [34:21] door uh we will have to go through training on it there's certain people who are able to get the report so you [34:27] can't obviously access a report that has nothing to do with you or you're just curious um but again it's just another [34:35] thing that we have to take on another level of responsibility and it's really huge unknown we've never done anything [34:40] like that before but legislation push push that through that they want that I think more accessible to the public [34:46] which just means push it out to the license centers okay keep us posted yeah [34:52] sure I'd like to say thank you too I've heard such good things and you know the best part [34:57] is uh when anybody complains about the Taj Mahal I can always say but we have that drive-thru and they'll that'll stop [35:04] them in their tracks because they go oh yeah we love that yes so thank you for uh and and you know you guys just do a [35:11] great job everybody's uh very happy to have it here yeah I appreciate that [35:17] perfect yeah thank you oh thank you good morning it's good to hear on the Improvement for the call back at the by [35:23] the end of the day yes we don't have all the answers but those are calls we get that hey you know someone didn't call us [35:30] back around the compound here so thank you yes on those specialty team plates do you know who gets the revenue that [35:35] people pay extra to get a a plate that's supporting a professional private owned [35:41] team yes so it is their charitable organization that they pick um and that will be posted for each one so right now [35:48] the Minnesota United does not qualify to even get a plate because they don't have a charitable organization that they [35:54] support um but yes each team all the other sports teams have one it's just the other four are still in the design [36:01] process and they didn't get the designs through quick enough to be able to have plates drop January 1 okay but I know [36:06] we've been hearing about the Vikings plate the Vikings plate for years and it finally went through and last thing so you got a [36:13] deputy sheriff over there pretty regularly do you have any stats on a number of conflicts that he's had to step in and [36:20] resolve I don't have any stats on that I will say we can tell that when he's [36:26] there there there's no issues but when he's not there is when the customer interactions can get a little bit um [36:33] more inflamed quickly uh but when he's sitting there I think customers just they appreciate seeing him there but it [36:39] also just they're going to walk up to the counter with a clear mind people get frustrated when we have to tell them no [36:46] um and sometimes it just takes that little extra presence of coming in with a clear mind to the customer from the [36:53] customer up to my counter so but unfortunately Ely we haven't had a a [36:58] bunch of terrible incidents but we've had you know he's had to ask a few people to leave or step out and cool [37:03] down but okay thank you very kind yeah all right thank you for putting this [37:09] information together yeah you're welcome all right moving on to the [37:14] second item on the taxpayer Services would be the approve the resolution denying tobacco license for AA Vape in [37:21] tobacco shop 242 West Broadway Street monel Minnesota this is uh an [37:27] application that did not meet setbacks uh is there any discussion if not I'll entertain a [37:34] motion so moved motion by commissioner Dietrich I'll second second by commissioner Holland any further [37:41] discussion hearing none resolution commissioner catchmark I I I I I um [37:48] resolution passes unanimously uh second would be approve a resolution denying tobacco license for Anna tobacco El [37:55] Albertville l l c located on 5600 the Center Avenue Suite 111 uh for the same [38:02] uh does not meet setback I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Holland second [38:08] second by commissioner D or sorry commissioner Shane BR this would be is there any [38:13] discussion hearing none this would be resolution commissioner Shane i i i i i [38:20] resolution passes unanimously all right where time are we at here by 9:35 [38:28] we're past our public hearing time at this point we'll go right to our public hearing at this time we will have a [38:33] public hearing for the county fee schedule updates uh is there any [38:39] highlights uh Mr mati you would like to uh point out prior to opening up the public hearing uh good morning Mr chair [38:46] members of the board again um we have not made any modifications to the fee schedule since uh the workshop and the [38:53] one fee schedule related to the plat review of at the highway dep Department that was addressed at the board [38:58] following that that Workshop meeting so I don't have any highlights on that we have been having some discussion about [39:04] maybe making some recommended changes to uh the public hearing fees for Planning [39:09] and Zoning um that I communicated with earlier about potentially raising those [39:16] up to help offset uh cost of requesting Deputy presence during those meetings [39:21] and you're going to bring that forward at a different time once you have a better a better prepared are you had put [39:26] those you had sent out those proposal we have those recommendations based on pretty much what we feel are typical [39:32] hearings for like mining extraction we feel that uh $50 increasing the fees is basically $50 um per what we typically [39:40] see as a hearing so Mining and extraction usually goes three different hearings they not full full commission [39:45] meeting so that would be an increase of $150 from 750 to 900 um that's kind of [39:52] what uh what we're proposing and I can go through that laundry list if you'd like me to if you'd like to consider [39:57] increasing those for that no I only reason I say that is because you said there wasn't any changes after the workshop but that wasn't a change that [40:03] was proposed after the workshop and that's the reason I wanted to make sure that you were whether you were or weren't including them at this time I I [40:10] would only include them if uh they come up as part of the public hearing to adjust the fee schedule we're having the [40:17] hearing on that made a lot of sense to me but not Greg so he's gonna he's for [40:22] Greg is goingon to interpret Mark yes yeah Mr chair members of board um staff [40:28] has is proposing some fee increases and they would be Germain for this discussion today for the board to adopt [40:34] them if you'd like to make that Amendment today we'd like to adopt them if you'd like those changed okay so at [40:41] this time there is essentially a I'm going to call it uh one in onea fee schedule that's out there there's the [40:47] original one that was published out there uh the fee schedule then there is a 1A which would be some additional [40:53] Planning and Zoning costs to accommodate security needs that have come to our attention in the uh shorter period of [41:00] time uh so with that we will open up the public hearing uh they can comment on uh [41:07] both discussions is there anyone here that would like to comment on the fee schedule proposed for 2024 is there [41:14] anyone here that would like to comment on the fee schedule proposed for [41:22] 2024 one more time uh is there anyone here that would like to comment on the [41:27] proposed fee schedule for 2024 hearing none we will close the [41:33] public hearing we also did not receive any comment on phone or email or for the [41:39] period okay Mr chair yes so I know we talked about the Planning and Zoning [41:45] meetings for security but we got Board of adjustments 8:30 on a Friday now [41:51] typically there would be a deputy in the building somewhere but if that person is on vacation [41:57] is there going to be a a plan is there interest for the board of adjustment [42:02] which I sometimes called Board of attitude adjustments because sometimes they need that but that would be a [42:09] potential uh contentious meeting also so are we at [42:15] that time that would be some more fees that' be passed along to applicant so [42:21] just kind of for board discussion I I don't want to just assume that well it's between 8 and 4:30 there's probably [42:27] going to be a deputy in the building because things happen then we'd have to have some little asteris that said some [42:33] other department or division is going to send a staff person over for that 8:30 a.m. meeting on a Friday once a month [42:40] was there any consideration to that Mr chair members of the board staff did consider the board of adjustment but [42:46] given the fact we normally have a deputy in this building we didn't feel at a staff level that we should add a a [42:54] standard fee onto the board adjustment fees because there's generally already a deputy in the building yes there are [42:59] those occasions where the deputy here could be on vacation but I think on those dates we can try to coordinate [43:05] with the sheriff's office if you want but if you want to increase it it would probably be a nominal fee to make up for [43:11] those instances where we have to get overtime coverage when the normal Deputy isn't here but it I guess at the end of [43:18] the day it's a policy discussion that the board can take up staff at our level did not feel comfortable moving it [43:25] forward without talking to the board at this time so at this time I would say hold off on it would see how many [43:31] situations arise where there would be a vacancy with the current position that's [43:36] in the building at that time and we can maybe mitigate it in the short term uh but we can decide how see how frequently [43:43] that happens and maybe we can adjust the fee schedule next year if if needed but I don't think there's going to be enough [43:48] situations that would happen within the next 12 months that we need to be that proactive to change the fee okay Mr [43:55] chair so how about not fee but how about just an asteris about uh in lie of the regular Deputy [44:02] not here that there would be correspondence or communication with the court security division to provide I [44:09] mean so we're going to I'm going I'm going to just call it Germain to the fee schedule we will be having some bigger [44:15] greater discussions about internal uh security and that will be the discussion that will be having down the road at a [44:21] later date okay thank you all right so with that uh [44:28] I would entertain the board to adopt either the original fee schedule or the fee schedule I am going to call 1A which [44:35] would be the amended Planning and Zoning fees uh for increased uh security needs [44:41] uh at this time I entertain a motion for either one or we can have further discussion I'll make a motion to approve [44:47] one a all right we have a motion by commissioner detri for approval of the fee schedule with the modifications for [44:53] Planning and Zoning fees incorporating the security cost for which is 1A that [44:59] would be seconded by commissioner Holland is there any further discussion Mr chair yes just uh just to clarify [45:06] whether you're a contentious item applicant or not this cost is going to be uh relative or to everybody paying [45:16] some percentage whether whether it's three times in a mining uh whatever the [45:21] case it's going to be passed on somehow equally yep and every Planning [45:27] Commission meeting this is going to apply to we're going to be working with the Sheriff's Office to have an overtime composition at every Planning Commission [45:34] meeting and these fees will be then offset that overtime cost from the sheriff's department for those meetings [45:41] in 2024 and we already have a deputy scheduled for the December one Whatever [45:47] date December 12 14th 14 so the typical contract rate [45:53] if you want to rent a deputy I think is 3 hours of overtime is that pretty much [45:58] what they're quoting there was like a minimum where if it takes an hour you're going to get paid for three and what is that rate now [46:06] do you know what do we figure Greg it's like $15 or probably figured like [46:13] 96 okay so around 300 bucks is going to be divied up per meeting amongst right [46:19] however many people are on there on the agenda yep well it'll be divied up based [46:24] on these fees right but if there's we might have we might have two applications commissioner that meeting [46:30] where we're might not be offsetting that but the next meeting we might be making more than the offset we're hoping to [46:37] average that out over the year it should be pretty close it should be pretty close we'll be able to monitor that [46:43] after the first year to see what adjustments we have to make based off of that as well that seems reasonable I sometimes I [46:50] like to peek over the fence does anyone know what other counties do if they have gotten to this level of security for [46:56] Planning Commission meetings anybody know Barry you talk with your peers at all or unknown we have been talking to [47:04] some cities we have some notices out through our HR department to ask other people what they do for off hour [47:09] security we're seeing a lot of correspondents that there are deputies during these types of meetings at City levels of course more so at City Council [47:16] meetings at City Planning meetings those types of things so we're seeing more and more of that as as we move forward so [47:23] okay because those are the calls we're going to get sayy there was a uniform here who paid for it how much and if [47:29] it's the applicant that's been here before and hasn't paid those are the kinds of things that we are going to be [47:35] asked and have to answer and justify so that's why I'm asking all right thank you so we we got discussion fair [47:42] questions commissioner catchmark is there any other discussion uh hearing none this is just [47:49] checking no on a regular vote so all in favor say I I co same sign fee schedule [47:56] passes unanimously thank you thank [48:05] you all right now moving on to the oh sorry my agenda Pages got mixed up [48:13] here morning Mr chair thank you Commissioners morning morning three [48:19] Highway items today for your consideration the first one is to um [48:26] requesting approved res resolution and support of sponsor sponsorship for each [48:32] of seven local agency local Road Improvement program applications ELR program and this is um where we can [48:40] offer help and support sponsorship for these local Grant [48:48] applications there's seven um resolutions attached so board members any discussion [48:56] this is kind of an annual process that we do for those uh not annual but every couple years or so we get these grant [49:03] opportunities is it just seems like it's annually but maybe it is that so with that is there any uh [49:10] questions or concerns or comments I would just Mr chair I would just like to say thank you for helping that that's [49:16] with the townships and I appreciate um your staff um reviewing those for them sponsoring thank you Mr chair yes yeah a [49:25] couple of the in District 5 gotten a lot of attention the last year or two everybody's districts I think probably [49:30] represented on here to some degree one two or three so uh thank you for [49:36] including him I got some just individual correspondents saying hey could you send a letter of support or endorsement I [49:42] checked with third floor and they said well it's it's going to be U all inclusive today so I'll make [49:49] a motion to approve that resolution all right motion by commissioner catchmark a [49:55] second second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say [50:01] I I that's a resolution resolution oh it is a resolution there's actually seven separate ones so I don't know do they [50:07] have to be acted on separately Mr chair I think we could take them all as one if everyone is unanimous in the vote for [50:13] all seven and then just uh document it accordingly if that works [50:18] so resolution 1 through 7 Mr chair all right second's okay with that all right [50:23] then with that resolution uh I'll start it off I I I I I resolution passes [50:30] unanimously he thank you the the second Highway item is is to also approve resolution in support of two County [50:37] Highway applications for El rip uh funding Casas 6 in Howard Lake uh for [50:43] the railroad bridge trying to get some funding to help with that project to lower the or increase the clearance and [50:50] then County Road 137 in Albertville not seagull there's a corridor project there [50:56] that we're hoping can get some funding to help with that project also and there's two resolutions all right uh we [51:03] can pass these resolutions I believe collectively or individually Mr chair I'll make a motion [51:09] to approve those two resolutions all right motion by commissioner catchmark second second by commissioner Holland [51:16] any further discussion Mr chair just for the rest of the board I see some Snickers this is Bridge gate on Cony [51:22] Road 6 by the fairgrounds where once a month a a semi trctor trailer comes through [51:28] can't read the signs symbols whatever and the gate the bridge shaves off the top and turns it into a convertible or [51:36] they're going to windstock and it's hot and they find when they turn the air conditioning on that the air conditioner is left under the bridge in our Lake uh [51:45] railroad's not interested in raising the bridge because you'd have to go like five miles on either side to start that [51:51] gradual increase to that that deal now no one's been hurt or killed but this [51:56] opportunity came up and it takes resources couple hours of time for closing the road a deputy or Howard Lake [52:04] officer to sit there and the whole thing lot of shrapnel to clean up so uh little [52:10] background maybe more than you want to know about Bridgegate but thanks for working on that Maker's dealing with the [52:15] same thing but they have a have a place where the semis get to it and they have [52:21] to stop for a sign they figure out maybe I can't get there under there so they back up a quarter of a mile they've had [52:27] none that have gone under and we have one a month so it's interesting and they're worried about fixing their [52:34] deal but all right this would be a great project to get solved it's been an issue [52:40] my almost 29 years at right County and I don't know how much before that that's probably the number one but there's like [52:47] what two other ones in the county that are like that there's the one in Maple Lake that's on 55 is or did that one [52:53] it's still there none that none that get hit like this no yeah that yeah and a lot of them are recreational vehicles [52:59] but there are semis that this happens to also it's the U-Haul vehicles that they just don't drive them often enough [53:06] there's that too yeah and I'd like to say uh I'm very thankful about 37 [53:12] because uh to walk over that bridge we my husband and I do it illegally because [53:18] it says no walking across the bridge there's because there's just a little path but this will be nice to have all [53:24] that and a it's a busy it's a busy road it is [53:31] yes all right there's no other we got a did we get a motion by you commissioner [53:37] catch by commissioner Holland and there's no other discussion a resolution uh I I I I I resolution passes [53:45] unanimously okay thank you the Third Highway item today is another resolution we're requesting the board to authorize [53:52] mindat to conduct a speed study to determine the the safe and reasonable speed of our realigned bradoock Avenue [53:58] County Road 148 that just opened up so that we can post the appropriate speed [54:04] limit I'll make the motion all right motion by commissioner Holland second second by commissioner Shane any further [54:11] discussion Mr chair well I'm thinking of it uh the old cut across were they Hydro [54:17] seeded now is there any intent to put barricades I saw what I think was an employee cut through the Hydro Seating [54:23] today yes and then ended up going through the back lot but they went we've [54:29] noticed that also and and long term that'll be solved when next year's roundabout project happens because [54:34] that'll be a curb and gutter but we are going to put barricades up because we we've noticed the same thing before the [54:39] snowf Flies right yes maybe today okay yeah thank you I that could be a [54:45] disaster but yeah some days you just have to just shake your head right it just I couldn't then I was surprised [54:51] that I think it was a staff person by the parking lot they were headed to it wasn't public so I don't know yeah very [54:58] glad that it's done it looks nice thank you all right uh we had a motion and we [55:05] have a second on that uh commissioner Holland hi hi hi hi I resolution passes [55:11] unanimously thank you Ross has been waiting so patiently [55:17] in the back of the [55:22] room thank you Mr chair commissioners have before you two items for [55:27] consideration both are recommendations from our Park and Recreation Commission and both are appraising separate [55:35] properties one for uh humre aens Park about 10 acres and another one for uh [55:40] Stanley Eddie going through this process with our park and rec commission we have kind of a um um like a project oversight [55:49] or questions that we ask during the meetings just to make sure that this would Elevate itself to [55:55] um proceeding forward and both have um those reached that those kind of those [56:01] Pinnacles for moving forward uh the one at Humphrey erand is lo is about 10 acres located just to the south of the [56:08] park park itself has kind of an In-N-Out trail system so this would hopefully Aid [56:13] into uh creating more of a round or more of a kind of a circular trail system and [56:21] the one at Stanley EDI I think is Sim adds to the park uh it's also part of [56:28] the Stanley Eddie uh for property acquisition for the master plan so it's [56:33] provides habitat um protection for the park as well and potentially could add [56:38] some trail miles in the one at uh Stanley Eddie currently the property [56:43] owner approached the county and asked if we were interested it was within our master plan and so there's a building on [56:50] there his house is on there now and so the thought is after talking with Barry and planning and zoning there's a [56:56] potential that we could split that property and then be just kind of looking to do the property appraisal on [57:02] just a split that we would be looking at and not taking the building and Tel portion so how much would you leave the [57:09] building on I gu how much of the property would you leave the building on eight Acres five acres five acres [57:19] yeah which I would rather see that I hate to see an entitlement just [57:25] be dissolved in that process yep certainly other options that we could pursue if we wanted to but that seemed [57:31] to be the one that would work best for us um and also we don't we currently [57:36] don't have any money set aside for property acquisition so this would just be for the appraisal process and that [57:42] would help us then oops sorry about that that would also then help us uh look at [57:47] acquiring like applying for grants for acquisition in the future Mr chair yes [57:53] well thanks for bringing us forward so on the Humphrey erands one did the property owner approach us or were you [58:00] that one too yep and what is a typical property appraisal cost for something [58:06] like that so we just did this for nine it was around $750 okay so then you'd get that cost [58:13] and then you'd come back and say here's what it costs and here's where what the funding source would be so we would [58:19] approach the property owner to see if they would be if like the one at n we got the appraisal they were not [58:25] interested at all proceeding after they saw the appraisal there was no in between with that so if the property [58:30] owner said yeah that looks like something I'd be interested in when they approach the county I let them know that [58:36] this is a lengthy process it's not one that we just get the appraisal back and we just write them a check and say here [58:41] you go so certainly you have to go through the process of um identifying funds to proceed and then would you with [58:48] that be able to provide like a trail uh development and maintenance [58:53] costs that would go with it for especially Humphrey errands because you're talking about expanding the trail [58:59] and certainly and if there there would be some potential hay ground or [59:04] something else that because I know in one case I don't know if the guy pays rent or not but they come in and cut hay [59:12] I don't know what the rest of this 10 acres would be used for besides Trail but I'd like to see what that 10 acres [59:18] would be used for is there any potential revenue or and what's the cost to [59:23] maintain and get the trail plowed in MH and there's no building entitlement with hum free errands right correct but with [59:30] Stanley Eddie I I don't know if we just write off that that we don't want that [59:35] but a building entitlement is potentially worth about 30,000 maybe I'd like to see what other [59:41] options there be for us to sell that off move it someplace else if that is an [59:47] option I don't want the rest of the board thinks but if there's some potential revenue and helping someone [59:53] that needs an entitlement somewhere else maybe that's something we could look at I think what they're intending to do with that one was to only purchase the [1:00:01] property that does not have the entitlement split off the one with the entitlement and then the uh seller would [1:00:07] keep the entitled property and probably sell it on their own so therefore we would get the property that would be uh [1:00:14] less expensive because we'd be buying the property that doesn't have an entitlement is that my understanding [1:00:20] correct correct yep there's a house on it and shed and yeah and we don't want to get into demoing cost and such so um [1:00:28] okay I thought there was some undeveloped part that had an entitlement the 10 acres does not have an [1:00:33] entitlement on the other one on the humy no so okay all right yeah I i' cautiously be [1:00:41] in favor of spending the 750 and then coming back and seeing I mean I I don't have a lot of feedback and concerns in [1:00:48] District 5 that says we need to have more Park ground Just For What It's Worth it's I have to look at that [1:00:55] consideration well it sure be nice to expand this park or that Park but yep [1:01:01] yeah this is certainly just a first step we would certainly develop a more robust [1:01:07] plan I guess at this point it's just a matter does the board interested in spending $4 to $1600 to get an appraisal [1:01:15] on the two properties to then use that to determine whether we want to develop a plan whether it's going after grant [1:01:21] funding or whatever property yeah part of the park commission you know this was discussed [1:01:26] and again we we we have a kind of a checklist of of discussion items to make sure it fits in with um our future plans [1:01:33] for the the park so it's not anything out of the blue it's not an odd piece of property or anything it's just um and [1:01:41] this is just the very first step again the owners could say no that's not going to work out for us but um so we're just [1:01:49] just approving I would like to make that motion to approve this um for the appraisal of these properties [1:01:55] I'll second that all right we have motion by commissioner Dietrich second by commissioner Holland any further [1:02:02] discussion hearing none all in favor say I I oppose same sign motion passes [1:02:08] unanimously thank you thank you thank [1:02:13] a all right next is the drainage to accept the [1:02:19] shade tree program uh bonding Grant from the Department of Natural Resources for [1:02:24] 426,000 thank you Mr chair members of the board yeah so we I have the approval on [1:02:30] today's agenda to accept that Grant um we had discussions about this Grant and [1:02:36] in EAB in general at workshop and there was some recommendations um but looking forward [1:02:41] to hopefully getting this accepted um standardly we would bring the grant contract here for signatures um I was [1:02:48] told by the minister Department of Natural Resources that they will be emailed to Derek and Lee for signature [1:02:54] atures at a later date so this is approving it but the signatures will come later through your email all right [1:03:00] Mr chair just wondering about that condition to not kill healthy trees [1:03:05] where where does that get because we got that later in the recommendation but we're taking this [1:03:11] before um and I don't know what the boards everyone wasn't at that Workshop [1:03:16] but I'm I'm sticking to that because it's speculation that that tree is a healthy tree is going to die but does [1:03:23] that have to be part of this to accept that we'd have to check a box that says we're only going to remove and replace [1:03:32] the sick and the injured or yeah I think that would be for the [1:03:37] board would that be more of a process of how we spend the money isn't this just accepting the money is a grant yeah this [1:03:43] is just accepting the money from the state but if you have to agree to but then the resolution coming later the the [1:03:52] the discussion about it as how we spend it is where where our our governing [1:03:59] body can dictate right well yes to a degree I think a lot of this is going to [1:04:05] be internal policy from it and I think they're going to use the guidance of the board and if you the guidance of the board is to avoid healthy trees at this [1:04:13] time they will adhere to that guidance okay and thank you I just wanted to clarify that part of um applying for and [1:04:22] being granted this you have to agree to be that proactive which to me is Extreme [1:04:28] I'll say that we're going to cut healthy trees and and if that isn't delineated [1:04:34] in there then we don't have to discuss that as part as of accepting the grant but you see what I mean some of these [1:04:40] things you have to agree to certain conditions and if the fine print doesn't say we have to then then I'm okay with [1:04:48] accepting that yeah there's more trees than we have grant money to cut so exactly [1:04:58] yeah Mr chair members of the board uh they've been surveying the asht trees in [1:05:03] the park System since about 2018 there's 651 ash trees identified in the [1:05:08] maintained areas of the park not outside in the forested areas you know there's nothing they can do with those if they [1:05:14] get disease they're going to die they're going to be cavity nesting trees they're going to be all sorts of good stuff [1:05:19] right that you guys maybe don't care about um but the trees that are in the maintain areas they've been suring those [1:05:26] surveying those with survey 123 with the gis application identifying their health [1:05:31] stresses all that type of stuff them are the trees that they're going to concentrate on are the ones that hit that survey that have poor health [1:05:38] they're being flagged they're having woodpecker activity um I think they [1:05:43] understand very well that they're not going to probably go down and cut cut down perfectly healthy ash trees they're [1:05:48] going to maybe start replacing those next to them during that time frame so that one if and when those trees become [1:05:54] diseased or have health issues that we have a replacement tree already established rather than cutting them [1:06:00] down and having am I right is um so that's that's their management plan that [1:06:06] they're working at on doing that and I think leaving that staff expertise on what's healthy what's not healthy is [1:06:12] what's key here because how are we going to be like who's going to come out and identify the tree if healthy or not [1:06:17] healthy I believe Matt and Matt's uh staff have the ability to do that and the knowledge and skills and abilities [1:06:22] to do that with that direction we're not cutting down perfectly healthy as trees however some perceptions are not reality [1:06:28] they could be having health issues that you don't see you know girdling or roots and stuff like that but giving them the [1:06:34] opportunity to manage that but that expectation I think is is good well I want to also do it with the notion of [1:06:41] health and safety I mean some of these there's there's timing that you're better off getting it earlier on than [1:06:47] others so I want take that into consideration as well Mr chair I'm wondering how this Falls underneath the [1:06:53] purview of the drainage coordinator when it seems like he's got enough on his plate already and you're coming up here [1:06:59] now in charge of of the ashbo detail so he manages a lot of the natural resource [1:07:05] aspects of the parks department that was added in there how long ago was some of the natural resource management I you uh [1:07:13] basically when when I left Matt Matt loves to do Matt Android's natural [1:07:18] resource aspect he was willing to take on some additional responsibilities later on today you'll be discussing [1:07:24] those changes in that job description chairman um uh Mike he uh wrote the [1:07:30] grant so that's why he's up here and I want to thank you for all the hard work [1:07:35] that's a lot of money and uh I appreciate that and uh all you do so [1:07:40] thank you no I and I agree but I don't still want you to get to stretched too thin to where you got all this ditch [1:07:47] stuff and now all these Ash projects and it just was surprising that it fell on his plate but I hope you got enough [1:07:54] support staff to make it all work and even out the work otherwise if you can't [1:08:00] you'll have to come and see somebody and say hey it's too much but yeah I think that was our parks department again I'm [1:08:07] a division within Parks main concern is there's a lot of trees that without this money staff would have to cut and treat [1:08:14] so with this money we'll be able to hire contractors which frees up our staff to do the 20 other things they have for [1:08:21] that day too so it'll hopefully be a net posit POS and save taxpayers money and [1:08:26] for our time so all right thank you this is another feather in his cap putting [1:08:31] the best people in the best roles they are able to leverage our internal Services as well as be able to leverage [1:08:38] outside funding to get the most bang for the buck for the constituents of right County the citizens you're awesome Matt [1:08:46] can't thank you enough yeah that's great so with that uh we have uh motion [1:08:55] do we I'll make that motion by second by commissioner Shane to uh accept the [1:09:01] shade uh shade tree program bonding Grant all right any discussion hearing [1:09:08] none all in favor say I I oose same sign motion passes unanimous uh next would be [1:09:14] the approval of the assessments to be levied against uh benefited land owners for County ditch systems this was [1:09:20] discussed briefly at the workshop last week uh is there any further discussion [1:09:25] on this matter if not I'll entertain a motion I'll make that motion motion by [1:09:31] commissioner Hollen second by commissioner Shane any further discussion Mr chair yes uh going back to [1:09:37] deputies at Planning Commission meetings if we decide down the road to have a presence at these ditch meetings is it [1:09:44] anything we'd have to consider here for assessments or would that just fall under a reg dit assessments are assessed [1:09:51] after the fact that would be one that would be added in those fee schedules [1:09:57] for next year if we had to incorporate those costs in the next year so we like [1:10:03] I said the cost is incurred first and then we Bild later so we will deal with that at this time a year from now if [1:10:08] those costs were actually incurred okay thank you all right is there any other [1:10:17] discussion hearing none all in favor say I hi post same sign motion passes [1:10:23] unanimous ly all right uh next would be the approved of the assessment tiers in [1:10:29] interest rate for 2024 once again this was discussed last week at the County Board Workshop uh this would be also [1:10:36] kind of a recommendation coming forward at the items for consideration but we will adopt it formally [1:10:43] here I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Dietrich I'll second that second by commissioner [1:10:48] Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I hi post same sign motion passes [1:10:56] unanimously next would be the approval to apply for the multi-purpose drainage management grant for County ditch [1:11:03] 19 yeah so this is a grant we apply for most years um we do have the deadline [1:11:08] coming up here in early December um so partnered with so and water um to identify a good projects or in this case [1:11:15] projects that we would apply for grant funding and if we're successful obviously I would bring that back for [1:11:22] approval all right uh motion motion by commissioner dri [1:11:28] second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say [1:11:33] I I I oppose same sign all right motion passes unanimously item number four [1:11:40] discussion the uh regarding the public hearing that was set for December 18th at 5:00 p.m. regarding County ditch 16 [1:11:48] and 19 uh commissioner Holland I yes uh [1:11:55] um I I would like to cancel that uh meeting because just of the situation of [1:12:00] uh security issues I think I'd like to see that moved on to later in to next [1:12:08] year so that we can figure out um a Safety and Security plan um and I would [1:12:16] just entertain a motion to uh cancel this upcoming one in December uh [1:12:21] commissioner Holland or yes Comm catchmark uh so this is one of those [1:12:27] ditch crises that I inherited it stopped and started many times for different [1:12:33] reasons we had uh something come up at a recent meeting related to this I've I've [1:12:40] spoken to staff about it too I think with an organization this large [1:12:46] and all the resources I would hope that this type of incident we could make [1:12:51] changes and resolve things and and keep it on schedule we have a lot of Ditch Projects that are in the works Matt and [1:12:58] the staff have worked really hard to get and keep this moving and I for those [1:13:05] Reasons I'm not interested in changing the schedule I think that we can we can manage it how we need to it it's a [1:13:12] District 5 ditch that uh I would like to see play out as would lots of [1:13:19] constituents on both sides of the fence here for against it seems like now what we're running across what I'm [1:13:26] hearing this is my opinion but the constituents have realized that the law [1:13:32] says that we have to fix the ditches when required now it almost seems like [1:13:38] there's different wrenches and hurdles and different things being thrown in that maybe have worked in the past to [1:13:44] slow down or stop these Ditch Projects and and I don't want to buy into them and then pass it along to somebody else [1:13:51] so that's that's what I'm seeing there's one or two maybe on each ditch and I [1:13:57] just I think we can get together and meet to resolve any concerns that that we have going forward without altering [1:14:04] the ditch schedule thank you Mr chair commissioner catchmark uh my suggestion is and I I I kind of agree that we are [1:14:12] just moving this along but uh I also understand that the reason this is contentious because it's expensive I [1:14:17] don't want to add any more expenses to this so my suggestion is that we move the public hearing from [1:14:24] on December 18th from 5:00 p.m. to 10:00 a.m. here and we have Security in the [1:14:29] building at that time so we wouldn't incur additional costs if we do it at 5:00 that night we'll end up having to Bill uh these homeowners more money to [1:14:37] put Security in the building uh that was driven uh largely by their own accord uh [1:14:42] so for that reason I would suggest we hold it on December 18th and move forward it's going to be contentious [1:14:47] whether it's December 18th or whether it's February 18th it's going to be contentious either way so I think at [1:14:53] that point if we do it during regular hours we have Security in the building uh we don't incur any additional costs [1:14:59] and we just move forward with it that would be my suggestion Mr chair yes I think that's a good that's a good mix I [1:15:05] I think uh given the situation that there should be clarification that there will for sure be a security staff here [1:15:12] that day and I'm I'm not going to deviate in the future to say every one of these now is going to be during the [1:15:19] day I'm still going to stick with in my district they prefer evening meetings but this one I'll I'll go with the [1:15:26] exception here because of the current state of this dit so I I'll recognize that and I think Administration will [1:15:32] work with the uh Sheriff to make sure that if for some reason somebody was on vacation that we'll be able to supplant that with somebody over there across the [1:15:38] street all right if we can get that as part of the record and then uh well [1:15:44] commissioner Holland whatever she has to weigh in here because she was inkling a motion another way but did can we ask Mr [1:15:52] chair could we ask asked the staff if they had any any thoughts here uh on that yeah Cher what about you Matt what [1:16:00] do you feel like um kind of a tough position for me to [1:16:06] speak on okay and that and that's I mean I don't I don't I'd like to let [1:16:14] tempers cool down and figure out a a way to get past this year and then think [1:16:21] about it you know at the beginning of next year um I it they you're right they [1:16:29] threw a wrench in it they're winning at the game um is there a reason that if we [1:16:35] did have it at 10 o'cl that we can have somebody in place of Matt be there I I [1:16:42] think attorney krysler you're tending to be there as well that would be able to help uh uh manage questions as well and [1:16:48] you have a great history with the 501 Mr chair Commissioners um I I I don't [1:16:54] believe Matt would have to be there at the meeting on the 18th um this is a viewers driven meeting they really [1:16:59] control it they're in charge of IT staff are really just there to answer any other questions and frankly the [1:17:06] questions generally that come up are not Germain to the purpose of the meeting which is the valuation of property and [1:17:13] to the benefit roles what we usually end up hearing at these meetings is why haven't you fixed my Culvert why are you [1:17:18] doing this why is the lake so high why is this so these are questions that frankly are not Germaine for these [1:17:25] meetings and we end up going down the rabbit hole of all these other issues and literally the wrenches get thrown at [1:17:32] us and we tell people 10 times in the introductory statement that repairs are [1:17:38] not meant to be talked about here but it the message never gets received so I'll be there to help control the meeting I [1:17:45] don't think Mr dchen needs to be there the viewers can be there to answer any questions dealing with property [1:17:50] appraisal and with benefit roles yeah and we've done a pretty uh a pretty good job as a board holistically this year in [1:17:57] managing Germain on ditches uh we've had some ones in the past that have we've [1:18:02] let things go really really far down discussions that are not ger main to the public hearing but I think we can [1:18:08] definitely uh keep that on task so Mr chair I'll make the motion then to [1:18:13] appropriate staff be out at 10: a.m. hearing on the 19th of December for 18th [1:18:20] 18th for ditch 16 and 19 10: a.m. right [1:18:25] all right I'll second that motion by commissioner catchmark second by commissioner Holland any further [1:18:32] discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I oppose same sign motion passes [1:18:37] unanimously thank you Matt pardon me all right next would be [1:18:45] uh project Administration Elizabeth coming forward to adopt uh three separate resolutions offering support [1:18:51] for border to border grants uh good morning Mr chair board um [1:18:57] as you stated um I'm asking for approval of three separate resolutions offering support for border-to-border uh bradar [1:19:04] applications um the state of Minnesota opened up the grant round in October with applications being due at the [1:19:10] beginning of December three providers have um reached out asking for support [1:19:15] two are asking for financial support um Charter is planning to bring Broadband [1:19:20] to more than a thousand locations within the county and they are asking for a contribution of $60,000 um midco is asking for a [1:19:28] contribution of $50,000 and they will be bringing service to just over 450 [1:19:33] locations I don't have details on the frontier um application which is why the [1:19:38] resolution is more generalized in nature all right with [1:19:46] that is there any discussion otherwise I'll entertain a motion to uh support [1:19:52] all three uh applicants so we can do with that in one resolution so moved I'll second all right motion by [1:19:58] commissioner Dietrich second by commissioner Holland any further [1:20:04] discussion hearing none this is resolution uh Cher Dietrich I hi I I I [1:20:12] resolution passes unanimously all right next is uh moving [1:20:18] on to items for consideration the October 16th uh Committee of the whole [1:20:25] so we have the recommendations on there which we will be uh approving at [1:20:33] the later on resolution uh which would be the changing of the uh way the County [1:20:39] Board allocates its mileage as well as its compensation and then the second item would [1:20:45] be the consensus of the board to bring to the November 21st County board [1:20:50] meeting to approve the 2024 Community Dental lease rate that was the October 16th uh we [1:20:58] have the November 14th which was the uh variety of informational items as well [1:21:05] as uh a discussion on the reasonable accommodation policy which was to to [1:21:10] direct staff to make some modications to that application uh just being able to [1:21:15] add another box to be able to be checked uh another one would be allowing the Buffalo to have a Precinct here on [1:21:22] election day then there was the discussion of the application process [1:21:28] for uh tobaccos and licenses and how they come forward on the agenda there was a informational discussion as we [1:21:35] just went for that Grant here today for the emerald ashor uh then the other one was the ditch item which we already [1:21:42] approved uh then there was also the followup which is informational on our [1:21:47] leadership philosophy and then we had a discussion on formalizing a policy on [1:21:52] how citizen requests get onto the agenda that'll be coming as a a formalized [1:21:57] policy at a later date uh then the the employee engagement uh and then more [1:22:04] information and more discussion will be coming about that and developing some sort of a survey for internal and [1:22:09] external uh at a later date and then the uh we reviewed the committee list as we [1:22:14] move forward and making appointments at the first organizational meeting in January of 2024 uh November 14th we also [1:22:22] had a Broadband committee which we already uh supported those letters of recommendation just here in a moment ago [1:22:29] and then there also is the Ways and Means Committee which we approved in the uh earlier in the meeting the changes [1:22:37] to policies so with that uh open up discussions on the recommendations Mr [1:22:44] chair yes I was ready to make a motion unless someone else had discussion no [1:22:50] okay I would make a motion to approve all of the fine summary that you just gave except number two the Community [1:22:59] Dental rate I'll leave that for someone else but I'll make a motion to approve the rest Mr chair second that motion by [1:23:06] commissioner catchmark second by commissioner Holland uh to approve all the recommendations from subsequent meetings other than the October 16th uh [1:23:13] secondary item facility lease rate removed all right any further discussion hearing none all in favor say [1:23:21] I I post same sign motion passes unanimously uh lease rate uh [1:23:31] discussion I I I know yours is like a more of a like kind of a philosophical you've had that same kind of uh notion [1:23:38] to it uh is any other board members have any other uh dis uh discussion on that [1:23:44] this was a an agreed amount that we've had with Community Dental [1:23:49] uh working forward to basically get them at the regular rate it was kind of a a stepping stone to get them to uh their [1:23:56] traditional market rate as they uh upscale their operations so with that is [1:24:02] there any discussion there is I'll entertain a motion I'll make a motion all right motion by commissioner Holland [1:24:07] second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I Poe same sign I motion [1:24:16] passes 41 all right uh last one was the approval resolution setting Comm [1:24:22] Commissioners compensation uh for 2024 this was discussed at the October 16th [1:24:30] uh Committee of the whole this was a in the resolution there uh memorializes [1:24:35] changes that we are making uh in terms of how we are allocating uh meeting resolution or meetings and registrations [1:24:43] as well as uh the removal of mileage for County board members and uh the [1:24:49] continuation of the change in prium and no longer collect prium and shifting all [1:24:54] of that into a flat more trans uh transparent uh compensation Mr chair oh [1:25:02] I just I had a question just for clarification of who who's the keeper of [1:25:07] the the list as far as approved committees and boards and things that [1:25:12] people just want to take off and go to on on their own that they think is a benefit or an offshoot to the county or [1:25:19] something else that we're a member of who's the determining factor is it just purely discretion if we turn something [1:25:27] in that it's assumed to be good or I just so this is kind of an this is like a step one here that we're having of [1:25:33] step two uh so we'll have a bigger discussion because now that we put this kind of puts an individual dollar amount [1:25:40] per commissioner we can have a bigger discussion sometime in the the next [1:25:45] month or two about what those parameters are for that but be before there was we [1:25:51] didn't have have a box around each commissioner and and we also didn't have a box on what it could be used for and [1:25:57] we're now trying to hone that in and getting a better policy for finance to be able to manage it so I would conclude [1:26:03] that this is step one of two so there's room for discussion on that we do we do [1:26:09] need to have more discussion that we will be modifying in the handbook that will articulate uh what those that [1:26:16] budgeted amount can be used for in terms of uh registration and such okay I I [1:26:22] here's a scenario so I go to the Batcave and I take a car and I want to drive to [1:26:27] another state because uh it's a third cousen to some other board I'm on and [1:26:33] then I turn in for something or other or that Fleet cost for the gas and whatever [1:26:39] gets build to somebody that's my scenario Mr chair so in in your scenario number one [1:26:46] uh the county car would would be removed from it that's managing the fleet side of it but any registration [1:26:53] lodging Etc would be diluted out from that individual amount of that $2,400 on [1:26:59] your side of it uh the the relevancy of what you're going to uh at this point we [1:27:05] haven't put any parameters around it uh we can have some discussions about putting policies around that uh we [1:27:12] probably should put some but this is at least a first step that we've had in actually putting some boundaries around [1:27:19] a dollar amount uh so so this is like I said step one of two steps okay sorry [1:27:26] for the extra question but it no it's it's a good it's a good question cuz yeah working our way through it and [1:27:32] trying to build a much more uh robust uh fiscal policies around the County Board and the county holistically hence the [1:27:38] reason we adopted a lot of fiscal policy changes today in our fiscal policies [1:27:47] yes a good yep all right any other discussion [1:27:52] otherwise I'll entertain a motion I I make that motion all right motion by uh [1:27:58] commissioner dri second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none uh commissioner [1:28:06] catchmark hi hi I I I motion passes unanimous all right uh now coming to the [1:28:14] conclusion of today's agenda uh we will adjourn here is there any quick [1:28:20] announcements anyone has otherwise we were running a few minutes late already for uh or actually we know we do have [1:28:26] about four minutes before we have another meeting Mr chair I'll just wish everyone listening in the board a Happy [1:28:32] Thanksgiving yes it will take me four minutes very well all right well then we [1:28:38] will adjourn the County board meeting at 10:26 Beats at 3 [1:28:46] and