good morning morning everyone it is Tuesday March 5th at 9:00 a.m. we'll call the right County Board of Commissioners to order we'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance I to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all it's another one of those great days where we get to recognize the uh wonderful employees of R County and the great work that they do for the citizens of the area uh so at this time uh we're going to call uh individuals forward for their years of service here at the County uh board members if we want to come forward and help pass out the uh certificates Mr Kelly all right thank you Mr chair as you mentioned this is the recognition for employees with anniversary dates between January 1st and March 31st 1 of 2024 um so this time I'll let you get into your spots uh why did we start with the five-year recognition employees so first is Amy Anderson with Health and Human [Applause] Services y we're doing right to left mix it up this time we all like um Austin Lynn with the Sheriff's Office Alexis ker with Health and Human Services Joshua Newbert with the Sheriff's [Applause] Office Alicia Anderson Health and Human Services Benjamin Grim Health and Human [Applause] Services Britney hos Health and Human [Applause] Services James gulford with the facilities group Cody Allen with Highway Crystal Le court [Applause] services Kevin Worster from facilities Diana zubad from Finance taxpayer services and David angel from it right includes our five-year recognition uh for 10-year recognition our first is jesselyn topf from Health and Human Services Jody toppel from Finance Megan yon from Health and Human [Applause] [Music] Services uh Denise lerg from Health and Human Services right he and Jennifer holler from Health and Human [Applause] Services all right those are our 10 years of recognition employees uh for 15-year recognition we have Terry Baxter the Sheriff's Office uh we have myself Lee KY from Administration I don't want to hold up the show Joseph VRE from the Sheriff's Office Brandon Steen from the sheriff's [Applause] [Laughter] office thank you Blake Baines from the Sheriff's Office Margo block from Health and Human Services Noel flesher Sheriff's [Applause] Office and that concludes our 15E recognitions uh moving on to 20 years of service Michael Fox from the Sheriff's Office Pamela Johnson from Health and Human Services for our 25 years of service recognition we have Eric kungl Sheriff's Office and also Richard Neva from the Sheriff's Office for 30 years of recognition Robin Krauss from Health and Human Services and for 40 years of service we have Brian Jans from Highway well thank you very much for attending uh this is a large number of folks that came out today uh and also congratulations we have some very large numbers of years of service to recognize today and that's always fun uh thank you for your dedication to the county as well as thank you for all the hard work that you do on behalf of our citizens uh we appreciate it so thank you Mr chair any comments you may have well Brian I want to say thank you 40 years on uh this list comes up maybe once every two three probably even maybe once every five years so uh your loyalty your commitment to R County and the citizens is uh tremens and I can't thank you enough we hope that you keep stick it out and put it to get the 50 cup you know we haven't I don't know have we given out a 50 year yet I don't know that we've had one so that might be a goal for you Mr chair and I've been with him for three quarters where he's managed the tires getting changed and the oil and I wish we had 10 more Brian Jan's here in Ray County thank you well said thank you we'll just take a short uh two minutes here let everybody that needs to exit exit oh you yeah you can grab them yep go ahead yep any department heads that's here uh feel free to grab your uh certificates and cubs cups for your uh departments for those that were unable to attend we're going to see how many cups Mr om Ali can carry thank you okay uh so beginning the agenda here uh we have to dispense with the minutes from February 20th and February 27th uh uh at this time I'll entertain a motion collectively or individually to approve the minutes from the 20th and 27th from the board meeting in the Personnel committee Mr chair yes I had a did you have a correction oh go ahead all right a correction I shared it with the minute taker regarding the appropriation I think it was page seven the vote for the Historical Society it shows 5 to Zer on one part and four to one it actually both should show a 4 to one vote with one opposed OS and that was shared with the minute taker that's all I have Mr chair all right Mr chair I have a correction in the green with the plant care um I want to read Shane said that the taxpayers of right County should not have care of interior Planters as an expense and recommended not to bring the topic to another meeting for further discussion all right Mr chair was that Up For Debate I thought we resolve the plan it was this is part of the minutes minutes oh it was just my comment oh okay all right so we have uh those two Corrections uh any other modifications otherwise I'll t uh entertain a motion to approve the minutes and that would be a motion for either individually or collectively for the two I'll go ahead and make that for collectively all right I'll second all right motion by commissioner Shane second by commissioner catchmark for the approval of the County Board minutes from February 20th and the Personnel committee from February 27th any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign motion passes unanimously next is the agenda today is there anything that needs to be added to today's agenda for further for discussion otherwise I'll entertain a motion Mr chair we had some bills that were coming up did you want to add those for so uh what I would want to say first we can uh either T have a brief discussion I'm you're talking about the uh Missing in the- Middle housing zoning uh the house file 409 and Senate file 3964 uh there was also a one that has to do with daycare uh vaccine mandate since we are meeting uh tomorrow uh as a topic for legislative items I think we should just go through a lot of them and then we can uh get appr at that time to uh submit letters on comments on either of them but we can discuss it now too but I would probably say since we're meeting tomorrow on that particular topic if you could hold off 24 hours sure we can unless we want to have some kind of collective type statement for tomorrow and shorten it up but then we'd have less to discuss with the legislators we'd already know where we stand but I'll defer to the other decision makers here if if if the interest is in submitting a a letter we can quickly just put that on there and discuss real quick on submitting a letter on either of these I just uh we have to have a discussion too with now we have uh about 15 20 items that we're tracking collectively we have to determine how many things that that how well we can track them and prioritize them so our lobbyists know which ones are they they need to spend the most amount of time and which ones they spend the least amount of time uh as it how they affect the county in operational in in expense perspective versus uh ones that we are more supporting for our uh partnering entities Mr chair I'd like to have that discussion tomorrow if that's okay and then we can approve the agenda moving forward today and and knowing that we'll have these discussions tomorrow all right is that a motion yes all right second right motion by commissioner uh Dietrich second by commissioner Shane to approve the agenda uh and we'll hold over the discussion on these legislative items to the committee the hold tomorrow for legislative uh initiatives yes and chairman can I add something at the end of the uh today uh a future agenda item I want to see at the next board meeting so you're uh requesting that you're and what I would say that could just be a comment that you'd be wanting to make to the to Administration that would necessarily have to be an agenda item so we can at the end of the at the end of the board meeting you can make that comment all all right thanks all right with that is there any other additions to the agenda today hearing none all in favor say I I oose same sign agenda is approved unanimously today's consent agenda would any board members like to remove anything from today's consent agenda for further discussion I'll make the motion to approve the consent agenda as written all right motion by commissioner Dietrich I'll second that second by commissioner Holland any discussion hearing none all in favor say I I oose same sign consent the agenda approved unanimously uh now moving on to our timed agenda items we are uh close enough I 9:20 but 9:17 we're I'd say we're relatively close so at this time we'll call uh J Jamie up here for the Health and Human Services portion of the agenda so uh first item on the agenda for the Health and Human Services is the consent agenda uh there is a four items listed on there would anyone like to pull any of these items for discussion otherwise I'll entertain a motion to approve the Health and Human Services consent agenda Mr chair yes I'd like to pull item one the first The District Two reappointment for discussion okay the uh Roman numeral three I guess it be for the renewal of the Genesis contract for discussion and Roman numeral four for discussion the request acceptance of the suicide prevention Grant all right so uh uh so at this point pleas you're making a motion to approve too uh it it appears so yes I'll make that motion all right I'll second that all right motion by commissioner catchmark uh second by commissioner Holland to approve the consent a Jem uh consent agenda item number two uh any further discussion all in favor say I I I post same sign all right uh the consent agenda item two is approved all right the first item the approval of Health and Human H approve the public health task force two-year term reappointment uh so yeah thanks yeah so in looking through I just yesterday got the attendance report and it was explained to me why it was late um that was you know kind of stuck out there especially when I don't have it in front of me but it looks like this person made eight out of 15 meetings over the course of two years that's what I saw red marks with absent in the box and in the past uh other board members know I've looked closely at this and I'm GNA have a hard time approving an attendance report like that for a a board member I'm not on that task force so maybe if somebody one of the decision makers is on it can weigh in but uh without a good explanation I I have a hard time with that um yes I am on that public task force and I did ask sari yesterday about and and I was to to notice that he had been missing he's a valued uh member of this committee and they meet on Monday mornings and it's been he had a work shift that it's been hard for him to get to but he has made uh some amends in his job so that he can because he does want to um he does want to come at on a regular basis and I think now that he's worked himself in the position it's going to be easier for him to come but if s wants to talk or I could actually add a little bit to it um and I did explain there were some extenuating circumstances this individual also sits on our um mhack our mental health advisory committee our hsac our health and human services advisory committee um he's also on the um osac the opioid um settlement settlement advisory committee and his his participation at those is pretty good and I would agree with commissioner Holland that he is a valued member um a lot of times when people do have um absences they kind of just disappear and we can't find them that's not been the case with this individual he's been very um upfront with us relating to us what's going on he's made himself available to read the minutes and keep on top of things and obviously we would like people to be in attendance whenever possible we do see this more of a hiccup than a ongoing issue all right well yeah hiccup is one thing but this is like two years of hiccups it looks like I'm not going to approve I mean he's he's active on other committees apparently in showing up but we're here to discuss this one and I voted someone off the island in my district that had a poor attendance record and it wasn't this poor so I mean the person could have really came here and gave his own explanation also and that didn't happen either so I I'm not going to approve it well someone else can make the motion so I I'm going to just bu two cents in this uh these positions are in my mind largely just volunteer positions and having individuals that are largely committed especially on a holistic scale across a lot of the different areas in Health and Human Services offers a great level of continuity now I do understand the constraints of people's employment and they have to be able to earn a living and those constraints sometimes shift from time to time uh the truth in it being that he is working his way to try and stay committed to it and it sounds as though he has found a way that's going to be able to make it work more uh beneficial in the future uh i i w I say this time that to your point I get we want attendance but I don't think that that warrants it at this time but you're entitled to your opinion so and just one added thing um his position is as I believe a mental health professional so he would be leaving people unattended to by attending these meetings and he is trying to work through that to make um everything work in the schedule but I'll make a motion that we approve Bradley G gangan how do you say his last name gangan gangan uh for the um uh Public Health task force for the next two years all right motion by commissioner Holland I'll second that second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I opposed I motion passes for one thank you all right moving on to the consensus it agenda item number three uh request uh board approval for upcoming renewal of the Genesis contract for the center uh contract Center licensing and support contract thank you Mr chair so in looking the contract over and we've had discussions and meetings about this and phone systems around the county uh and this is to renew this contract so I was looking at the start and the end date the did this current contract end 228 at 24 that's that's what I'm I think I'm seeing and the proposal is to extend it to 227 of 25 so that that's correct there were some issues with with getting the quote um so we are requesting that it be extended for one year we understand there's going to be a project to look at uh is is it the right solution more in depth than what we have done okay so I guess the question for the leadership is when you know that you have a contract for a year coming up for Renewal that it doesn't and you know often the board meets and it's for $333,000 that we don't see it until the calendar date is passed for the current contract and I think it kind of uh potentially puts the board in a different kind of a spot here versus uh visiting other options and looking at this analysis with I which I think should have been started in further along than it is with as part as the rest of the phone system inquiry so can you explain how we don't see this on an agenda until a week after it's expired yes yes commissioner and I I apologize for that we did request the quote back in December and uh and it did not get delivered to us until late February uh the the uh provider kerasoft said that was due to issues uh getting the vetting completed for the nasbo contract which they've always been on the naspo contract they were approved for the naspo contract again now but they're quote they uh still had the dates on it for the for the contract period that we that we currently had and naspo is the state of Minnesota um purchasing contract purchasing contract so I think there were you know yes we would prefer also to have this more up front and have all this stuff kind of put to bed before it gets to be the late date and that's definitely our desire um sometimes we have a lot of balls in the air and things don't always come out as timely as we would like um we're within a week of the time it's um it's been a great product for us we were just here last month telling you about how this has um improved our services in um Health and Human Services um and yes we're asking for an extension for the next year I don't believe that this was part of the original phone contract because um I don't think this was being looked at as a phone system it's a contact center system but after talking with Clay yesterday it looks like we'll maybe slide it into part of that phone conversation it's just like not the same animal as a regular phone system because it's a b basically a software Mr chair so thanks for the background on the late arrival and I didn't have anything other than the dates begin and end uh no backstory so I've been looking at the cost because there's been some figures thrown around about the cost per employee for Genesis versus the cost per employee for the rest of the County's phone system and I don't know if Administration Finance or if you folks have those numbers I'm looking for two in particular the cost per employee for the Gen system and the cost per employee for the rest of the phone system that I believe the rest of the county pretty much uses yeah so I can give you I can give you the costs for Genesis I don't have a combined number off the top of my head but I will get that and get that to you the current cost for Genesis users that are in the the have the capabilities to take cued calls is $138 per month the county phone system cost I got those numbers from uh from the it administrator and that is uh $30 per month for the current AV system keep in mind the current Avia system is not a contact center and Health and Human Services is on track to take 64,000 calls this year the rest of the county I and I'm excluding Sheriff's and not and not all of our staff have that 130 that's only for that's where we're trying to get those um those customer service where we can funnel calls into a call center but uh people that just have their phone at their well on their on their computer and are not part of a queue they don't pay the we don't pay 100 and I'm going to stop this real quick here because I think we're getting way too into the Weeds on this item uh this item is intended to be reviewed through projects and be reviewed holistically when looking at the phone system and does this cont Center makes sense or is there a better option out there so all that's going to be looked at in the in the next 6 to 12 months hence the reason we're having the conversation about extending out the contract uh whether you agree or disagree that we should keep it in the short term going away from in the short term it would cause a great due or great amount of harm to our internal practices so I at this point I mean I get your concerned about the cost on it and we address the fact that we know that the cost on it is is quite large maybe potentially we don't know um and that's the reason we're projects is looking into it to see what other options are out there and to see if our current phone system could be leveraged to do it or if there's another provider out there I guess at this point are are you looking to say no to this contract commissioner catchmark Mr chair I I appreciate your feedback and then bringing me back into the weeds which I think I need to be out by appreciate you asking me though cuz I did have a final I was going somewhere I guess I'll say with it and it is that what the ask is is for another year and 333,000 and once we sign that if in six months we find out due to the fir the hard work of our team with the phone study we say hey this is uh very much off we could do better another way we're locked into another six month so I talked to Administration and they would be willing to contact the book of Genesis here and ask him if we could do like more of a one month month-to-month deal because the thing is under review and it sounds like part of the delay here is on the Genesis part why we got it late is what you're saying right you requested it in December well in the state of Minnesota because they were they were trying to get they were going through the state of Minnesota which is good for us to know that we have a solid product that the state supports um and just as far as um the cost just a reminder that because these are costs to our employees that work within these programs at the state of Minnesota we do get reimbursed for a portion of the cost of this as well so we get about across the board about a third back about $100,000 do back as on as part of ffp for the cost of this um I would personally say I don't think in six if we knew right now that we're going to turn it around in six months I don't think we could be prepared internally to change up all the processes we have in place in six months to even be ready to answer if phone outside of Genesis I mean it's a huge it's a huge component to our work so what I would say because I mean it's it's worth asking and looking at what that month-to-month price if they're even willing to do it is against the year because in all reality the chances that we we're probably three to six months out just on the vetting process and then there's an implementation if there is a change that would take us the the final part so unless it is and more often than not month-to-month contracts tend to be uh quite a bit more costly than going with a a holistic one-year contract but it's worth looking at it so I think by all means have Administration reach out find out what a month-to-month cost is and we can weigh them I think we have that I'm sorry to interrupt uh it's 170 instead of the $138 for a single phone if you go on the monthly contract month-to month would be would be so you're paying almost a 30% increase on on your on your per line cost that's right commissioner and we and and realistically as Jamie mentioned it's going to take us if we started today it would take us the better part of a year to get moved to another product so the only way we would save money is if we would be month-to month is if we would be done with it in seven months otherwise anything outside of that would be would be basically a no gain 7 we have transition out of it in seven to eight months and I know sorry I had a how did you get the information relayed to you on a month charge was this an email or a fee schedule that you have get your access or I was that relay to you it is it is an email I asked for that information yesterday okay well I would appreciate more of a personto person contact with it and say we've got a $333,000 contract here it's not like $33 and can you work with us here's what we're doing I I would appreciate that more than an email with Anonymous person to see if that price could be lower commissioner D sure absolutely I'm just curious Mr chair is this is has been budgeted for 2024 correct correct yes so so moving forward if there was cost savings if you want to look at that and and knowing that there's a long time frame in that I'd like to make a motion just to approve it as is um and acknowledging that admin and and uh Commissioners can work together with HHS to to review and if there's any changes uh that that would be ongoing for 2025 that's a long motion all right so you have a motion by commissioner Dietrich I'll second that second by commissioner Holland any further discussion oh Mr chair I just I just don't think it's laid out enough the what the expectation is and there's a lot of things that are budgeted that we automatically you know you get more information doesn't mean you're going to automatically send it through and I I don't have enough uh Clarity or definition to what that looks like so I'm I'm not going to I vote for it at this time and I understand your position on this um I'm going to say that uh knowing the numbers that I have on a month-to month at 170 and the current is 138 uh and knowing the fact that there's no way that we could transition out of it in less than seven months especially when we haven't we're not even 50% way through uh the analysis of our current phone system through projects there's just no way we're not going to we're not going to say money so with that I'm going to support uh commissioner dietr and commissioner Holland's motion Mr chair to that point I don't want to underestimate I don't know if she's in here uh but our project manager Elizabeth Carl's abilities we can't speak for her and what that time frame is maybe she already knows but I just want to point that out that none of us are on that project team to know what that's going to take I do know that the Genesis portion was just recently added to the scope of this so that part has is at Ground Zero so that that portion of it is hasn't even begun it's literally just starting now can I can I just mention two Commissioners this is a this is we've maybe had this or four years Genesis right this was fully vetted initially this wasn't like something that we just went out and got the board approved it it was part of a project it was implemented through it the board is very supportive of it at the time it was a higher price cost but that was right when we were starting our remote work and we had was actually at the beginning of the pandemic we had a seamless transition with our staff during the pandemic because of this unlike other departments that had a forward calls and things like that our clients were able um to get right through um this this is I just want to make sure that you understand that this was fully vetted and this was the board's approved product at the time is there something better now I haven't heard about it but potentially there is I think there's maybe one other I think when we looked at this a couple months ago when this came up there was maybe one other area that they could look at that proved to be more costly um but we're certainly open to looking at if there's a better cost product that can do the same things for us um but just like we didn't pull this out of the air this was a fully vetted pro project the board approved it at the time it was paid for a lot of it upfront with the covid dollars um that made us be more effective during the pandemic so it was a it's been a great thing for us so far I appreciate if um moving forward and we'll certainly keep the board in touch with how we B things out going forward I guess I didn't realize there was such a touch point right now otherwise we would have been in more communication no I I I think the the numbers themselves speak for it so I I don't I wouldn't say staff is is in the wrong here uh your your decision based on the numbers the 170 per month versus the 138 for a one-year contract and based on even if you wanted to Pivot you couldn't pivot away in less than a 12- Monon period of time so I think staff did make the correct decision on looking for a one-year renewal and with that we have a motion in a second second uh at this time any other comments hearing none all in favor say I hi post same sign hi all right motion passes 41 thank you thank you all right uh the last item was to request board acceptance of the suicide prevention grant for 2024 thank you Mr chair so my question is following the current legislative process is that there's a discussion about some something called the end of life pill and I don't know how many people know about it or have been following it but why I'm wondering about it related to this is that this would assist this pill would assist people to end their life in certain criteria and the cause of death this isn't Pleasant to talk about but I think we need to clear it up for me for religious purposes that's that's the reason um but it's not going to be ruled that they took the pill and took their own life it's going to be the cause of death is going to be the illness that they had that before that so I would like to know if any of this 400,000 would or could be set aside for a program a prescription like that is what it's going to be if that is going to pass and I don't know as we sit today where that bill is I will say no that is not a possibility this is a suicide prevention Grant well I I realize but you understand the logic with the is that once they take this they're not calling it suicide and this is this is not a vehicle for anything like a assisted suicide or any type of pill this is doesn't cover for medication or anything like that okay well sorry folks but that was something current event that and so is this so I had to clear it up appreciate that yeah thank you any other uh discussion otherwise I'll entertain a motion I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner catchmark I'll second second by commissioner Holland any discussion hearing none all in favor say I hi hi post same sign motion passes 5 Z thank you and now moving on to the update on the opioid settlement Grant in The Advisory Council operations um yes and as it says this is an update and I believe we have Ellie with us to provide that good morning say Ellie vanas one of our Public Health nurses good morning let me log in quick [Music] [Music] okay uh yes as was stated I'm here today with an update on the actions of our opioid settlement advisory Council uh it's going to be pretty brief covering our current grantees and what's happening there as well as a brief slide on our future work that we're planning right now so of our seven grantees one of them is the Minnesota prevention and Recovery Alliance they are working on an anti-stigma campaign in partnership with our local mentorship education and drug awareness Coalition as well as they have know the truth services in a few of our schools I believe right now they are in the BHM School District providing some coaching and mentorship and some peer Recovery Services for those students um I believe they're looking at advancing this and that would take a review of their current contract to not extend the fund to not increase the funds but to just um allow them to cover another school district with said funds so they're currently exploring the expansion of that option as well um total expenditures right now we're looking at 16,500 sum of their $999,000 award um as a reminder those Awards end at the end of this year we also have um BHM parks at elementary they are working on implementing a social emotional learning curriculum as well as trauma-informed practices thus far they have um done some purchasing within the curriculum as well as some staff time and they have attended a training for I believe five or six of their staff to um spend that 14,000 some dollars and they have um a few things left to purchase within that curriculum as well as the staff time that it will take to implement that and some contract with some coaching for the trauma informed practices uh there's also our partnership between the Sheriff's Office and health and human services for the co-responder program in total there's $200,000 awarded to that program with 100,000 for each department um I have heard and I'm sure there's people here today who could tell you how well that is going um we're kind of low on expenditures at this point because they've been able to tap into other funds and so as you can see as of 216 there was just the $10,000 for the Sheriff's Office spent and that went toward training recovery Unleashed is working on some housing stiens for people who are in um treatment and recovery for substance use disorder they have spent that $3,600 on said stens for I believe it's six people for two maybe 3 months now of housing they're also working on peer recovery specialist training hoping that that can happen sometime this spring or summer Central Minnesota jobs and training also applied to receive some funds for peer recovery specialist training and job support after their training um they have not spent any of their funds at this point we do have a meeting with them in the next couple weeks to address how to um how we can help with their project Buffalo Police Department purchased a true Nar um narcotics analyzer they purchased that um pretty much right away when they received the the funding and in January all of their staff were trained on how to use it when we had talked to them in December it had already gotten I think six uses at that three or six uses at that point so it has been going very well from their perspective Mr chair just a quick question I've never heard of this technology do you have any independent background of how the thing works if not I can call over to Buffalo but I just thought I'd ask CU you said you heard it's working well um all what I know is that it is a mobile device that can be brought out to calls with them and test substances on site to see what the substance is which both can protect the officers involved so they know what they're dealing with as well as can help inform how to provide care in the situation um particularly when emss arrives and having that additional information for care beyond that I know our Sheriff's Office uses this as well um and might have more information or BPD would have information too that's fine thank you I was wondering if it tested the patient through something and and tell you what they were on or if you're actually picking up substance laying around and testing it so I don't believe you have to pick anything up to use itation thank you you're welcome those are all seven of our grantees that we currently have uh we have quarterly technical assistance meetings with them so like I said we met in December and then we will meet again in March to get another update from them our updates Circle back through the council to provide them so with some awareness uh and we starting in April we will have our grantees come present to the council so I believe we have three grantees coming to one of the council meetings and then may we have four grantees coming to that council meeting and they will provide about a 10 to 15 minute updates um we ask them to come and share stories to bring things with them so we might have Buffalo Police Department bringing the analyzer with them if it's available um and provide that Circle back to the council so they can know how the funds are being spent and what the projects look like as well as be able to ask questions something that uh we're focusing on in our next quarterly technical assistance meetings is how are we going to build on these Pro um projects to ensure sustainability beyond the opioid settlement funds and so that will be the focus of our conversations and hopefully we can um do some of that partnering together to build on some of these projects uh other work that we're currently doing we have a new a little bit of a new invoice process which is just a a better description of the funds being spent which was requested and hopefully that is providing enough information to you all to ensure that the funds are being spent appropriately DHS reporting is coming up at the end of this month we have all of our uh grantees reporting to us at the end of January and then we are able to take those that information and put it into this DHS report the DHS report is due yearly and needs to account for all of the money spent in the last calendar year um it's a pretty simple process however so we're able to kind of transfer information from the report we get into the DHS system finally what we're working on is planning for this year's funding as well as Beyond we've had some really fantastic conversations at the council about um just a whole host of barriers and problems and opportunities to resolve those issues uh we're talking a lot about treatment we're talking a lot about supporting our schools um we've also talked a lot about housing I think those have been kind of our three top conversations that we've had we know that there are things to resolve that don't necessarily get resolved with just funding and so we're trying to also problem solve how to work together how to um look at our you know Circles of influence to better those these areas um outside of being able to fund them speaking of funding we are a little backed up with funding right now we have about 500 some thousand that has not made it to us yet that we thought would get this last fall and then we thought we get it in January and we don't have it at this point that is certainly um lending to an inability to really figure out funding for this year for our rfps so we're certainly going to need to delay them we had initially planned on the spring um I think at this point fall is the best bet for when we be able to get out some more funds so that might be when you see us back again with our our our RFP and potential grantees that is all I have for today right you have any questions thank you Mr chair just a question we here and see members coming and going on the council can you advise if you have your 23 or however many you have on there I believe we are at more like 21 who come regularly um it is our spring task to review all of our council members and attendance and to be in contact both with folks who have been unable to make meetings recently and circle back with them and figure out if staying on the council is necessary and if we end up with more spots um do we need to go and fill those spots and how are we going to go do that so that is actually a conversation that's going to happen next week Tuesday at our council meeting and let not your heart be troubled I'm not going to press you for attendance on that because 21 is a pretty darn good number to get to try and agree with with something so I'm just asking because we see the numbers come and go but yes thank you certainly um I have a question we have two uh in Ray County we have two facilities that uh Minnesota adult and Teen Challenge have one is just opening up in Rockford um and that is basically what the what they said is like the soccer mom and soccer dad kind of the that opioid you know they they get caught up in that do we can they apply for Grants or do they get any grants from us uh they C they can apply for op settlement funds as in their work is likely outlined in the state memorandum of agreements however the council more dictates what the next RFP will be and so if they if the council chooses to narrow that and it comes to board and it's approved then their work might not be applicable to that request for proposals so yeah it's a potential certainly um but without knowing what the RFP is it's not a certain at this point so as far as other funding I'm not aware of any other funding that changes hands with that um no nothing so support them in their work yeah Mr chair um just to Genie's comment I want to rest assured that um when this first was still all going on I talked to Mr loots about this and they are aware of this and he's keeping them you know in the forecast as well so just so at least they know about it yeah thank you great wel thank you comments thank you for the update all right director's comments yeah I just have a couple and these are just basically timed for things that are kind of relevant and coming up now and dynamics that kind of are happening within HHS and within our community um the first one is I wanted to just um bring up that um unlike child foster care where we're always looking for more you know recruiting for child foster care that's not the case with adult foster care so um interest in adult family foster care has been growing exponentially in the last couple of years several potential um providers reach out each week um to inquire on the ability to get licensed in rake County many surrounding counties have stopped accepting new applications and many potential providers are buying homes in right County with the hopes of getting licensed in right County um so long story short there's a lot of interest in becoming an adult foster care provider right now there's um significant financial backing from the state when you are an adult um foster care provider um and right now this for um for example we currently have 70 homes and if and um and that's a lot of work so we have I think the worker is here with me today um we have a number of we have quite a few homes in this area and I think because other counties are kind of shutting down some of their application process because they're not seeing a value or a need for this they're kind of getting funnel to right County we um we have a weit list right now that we have I think 19 families on a weight list for getting adult foster care licensed and we honestly don't have a huge need for that um so I'm thinking that I don't necessarily think it's even a board decision I think HHS may move forward with a moratorium on accepting new applications but just in the event that you hear from providers saying why can't we get licens and right County um I think henen county has 43 homes and we have 70 homes right now I'm sure county has like 40 homes and we have 70 homes and it is a big we have one worker and it's almost unsustainable right now with the number of homes that we're supporting um with one worker so just in case you get news from people looking at like why won't R County um license this this is kind of the dynamic that we're in at the moment and don't confuse it with child foster care because we are looking for child Foster Care Homes um the next thing I wanted to mention is just kind of um um I don't believe this has been budgeted it's a good thing though it's our budget is um our revenue is going up in the area it's not a good thing I guess in the fact that we're doing more TB tuberculosis um work with clients meaning that there is more TB present in our County however we never used to bill for TB Services before our Public Health um interacts with these clients and provides them it needs to be a face to-face kind of situation um because of the increase in TV cases we have started building Ma and the pmaps and so far to date we''ve I um I didn't bring my glasses $ 26,40 in revenue on delivering these services that we would otherwise not have seen if we hadn't started building for these services so we'll make sure we get um work with Lindsay and her team to get that budgeted as well um and my actually my last item was just uh I think specifically commissioner Holland is um always curious about our laundry events and I don't see it right now but we're having two more laundry events I think one in monacello and one in Buffalo um in April so I can send that information out to you if you'd like to share that with your constituents going forward I think they're pretty popular events and that's again through a $110,000 grant that we received to help people great thanks Mr chair so we can bring our laundry in that day there you go all right thank you Jamie thank you all right uh moving on to items for consideration we have a number of uh resolutions here to approve the first one would be the approve a resolution for the final acceptance of contract number 2 204 in the authorized final payment to Knife River uh in the amount of $1 14,51 uh at this time is there any discussion otherwise I'll entertain any motion I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Holland second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion Mr chair just the question in the past with the past regime we had Virgil here for these and now we got change in regime and I don't see the new engineer here is that is this the practice going forward or yeah um here you want to talk to speak to it Mark Mr chair members of the board uh commissioner catch Mark um this would a practice I would like to see going forward um it's a final payment it's already been checked off has been authorized by the engineering department of the highway um they've done the numbers and everything so rather than having Chad come and and speak on it we thought we'd do items for consideration with the enough background information to hopefully provide uh approval to these these things kind of Time Savings thing and that's fine I I guess it'd be nice to hear that ahead of time instead of looking around and saying what's changed I'm just saying that you know that save you from coming up here too because we'd all understand that maybe Mr chair knew that I don't know yeah just looking for some efficiencies with when working with department heads and making uh the best use of their times and when these ones here it checked all the boxes so there really isn't any legitim reason to deny final payment so for those reasons uh we went for it just as an a how would you say it uh function that we have to take care of now I'd make a motion to if we don't need a background on them i' approve one two and three if there's I guess I have to ask my attorney friend over there uh Mr kryer can they do them collectively or do they only need to be done individually Mr chair traditionally we do a roll call vote separately on every resolution well Mr chair we're breaking tradition already here so uh we actually there's four items but all right so be it uh so do we have a motion on the first one was there y commission Hall and second by Shane by commissioner Shane so we already have a motion uh any other discussion hearing none commissioner catchmark i i i i i all right motion passes unanimously all right second would be the approve of your resolution and the final acceptance of contract 2206 and authorized final payment to Knife River in the amount of 62990 I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Holland second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none roll call vote commissioner Shane i i i i i resolution passes unanimously next would be uh the enter into a Cooperative construction agreement number 104 6686 with the state of Minnesota Department of Transportation H I'll make that motion all right motion by Comm Holland second second by commissioner Shane resolution vote any discussion hearing none I vote I I I hi hi resolution passes unanimously and then uh item number four would be adopt a resolution approving lawful gambling application uh form LG3 230 for the Rockford Lions I'll make that motion all right all right motion by commissioner Holland second by commissioner Shane any discussion hearing none resolution commissioner Holland i i i i i motion passes unanimously all right well without doing it collectively I tried to do her pretty quick though all right so next would be to schedule a closed session to discuss uh a cyber security audit and the findings of that in the future 2024 status so this would be under Minnesota statute 13 d05 subdivision 3D and they're looking the suggests the date is March 19th at 10:30 a.m. be following the board meeting on the 19th okay yeah it's fine with me works with me looking like everybody's good can I get a motion for that so moved motion by commissioner Shane second second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign all right so then the other one here was the item that was uh put on uh by board member was to discuss the proposed legislation of uh middle housing Bill uh Shane from flan Hood will be available to speak on that tomorrow at our committee of the whole he'll be there he has some details from the league of Minnesota cities and efforts that they have on it as well as a variety of other aspects uh so if you want to have a discuss now we can but I I would I would encourage everybody just to wait till tomorrow because there'll be a lot of information on it so Mr chair I appreciate that because I have several pages that I'd like to voice my concern for my constituents in my cities and I think we all have the same sentiment on that one this was the legislation that comes out there is uh quite interesting so all right clearly overreached yes okay uh so that one will just defer over to the meeting tomorrow uh number seven we discuss agenda for March uh board meeting Workshop so the first item for the workshop next week do you have any particular items I know I had talked with you with a few different items yes Mr chair we certainly would have our standing schedule meeting and any legislative or board updates that the board would like to make uh there was a discussion you had with me Mr chair about doing uh kind of a overview of Health and Human Services some numbers and metrics on that um and then there was discussion potentially about an update on strategic plan are there any other items that folks would like to add for discussion all right so sure we'll probably have enough items just as the legislative items that'll be always a standing item at least during the session so between those I think that'll be a fair enough robust Workshop so I do have a future uh a item for the next board meeting on March 19th uh so this past weekend we had the officer involved shooting that is both tragic and upsetting and will impact this deputy's life forever because of this I want at the next meeting a report from the Sheriff's Office and a representative from Oracle with a hard date on when our deputies will be outfitted with body cams I've been pushing for over a year and we have the money ready and waiting we are 10 years behind our neighboring counties and it's time to act so I would like to have those two entities come in front of us at the March 19th meeting the two entities meeting the sheriff and Oracle or the sheriff sheriff's department and Oracle who keeps giving us a date but then it keeps getting pushed away so at this time I had spoken with the sheriff earlier this morning uh on regards to this matter and wanting to be able to get it uh entertained he informed me that he would be able to present all of the details at the April workshop and be able to put together a timeline at that time um we can ask him I don't know that the the March 19th board meeting will work we may if we want to do it before the April board April workshop on the 9th I would say we'd probably have to look at a separate committee the whole I don't know that this is an item that we would want to be able to do at a board meeting so because there's uh a lot of the information is somewhat in flux still well I I feel like we keep getting pushed off and promised and I just feel for our constituents and for the deputies if Oracle really wants this contract they can have a representative here on March 19th I I'm getting tired of being pushed away and getting we were told by January they were going to be outfitted and then we're told it's every 6 months and we we cannot have those deputies out there without body cams it's so imperative and when when we're so when when I I said it's always we've always I've always said it's not a matter of if it's going to happen it's a matter of when our when happened on Saturday morning and that we crime does not watch the the boundaries of a County Crime will always come in and if we let these deputies twist in the wind we will lose them to other departments if they don't see an endgame and as our as our constituents and me personally I want an endgame I want Oracle to tell me exactly when we're getting these because it looks like from here that we are not pushing forward and I want I want it on record that we want a date and if they want this contract otherwise we'll go to Meer County and find out who they're using we'll go to Sherman County find out who they're using and go ahead and and use them so here's where we at in the short term and and I'm going to speak about this somewhat Loosely because I don't know all the fine fine details but I know enough to be uh dangerous with it so with that so what we have here in hand is we we could literally say we're done with a Oracle and instruct the sheriff but ultimately this is a question as to his managerial rights and him being able to decide what who he's going to do business with or not but that aside uh we could do that and we could go with the company and have it up and running within the next 90 days okay with with with an off-the-shelf product and that would cost us about $3 to4 million between between all of the backside implementation all that aspect all right where we are currently with Oracle is because we are using a prototype all right this is their first time in the market and they are giving us the hardware and software uh on it on a believe I'm going to say it was a three or four year contract issue uh for the for these items and the contract doesn't begin till we start using them all right now this product is very Cutting Edge very unique but it hasn't been used before so it's a very slow process and they are at the point now where I'm being told that they plan to do testing live with our deputies somewhere in the third or fourth quarter of this year and with the intention of rolling it out but what they don't know is when they test it what errors and hiccups they will have with it so that would delay them maybe into a little bit further into next year but they feel pretty confident that they will have it uh universally rolled out within the first at worst case scenario second quarter of 2025 sorry I got to think of the year so the question we have to ask oursel is do we want to separate that this relationship with Oracle and pivot to another way at the cost of three or four million do we've already invested a great deal of times within our Sheriff's Department within our legal department our finance department in getting this project to this point and the reason we chose this route is because it was a substantial savings and the Savings in the to millions of dollars now I understand your point that this process has taken extremely long and it has been grueling and yes there is there is risk in not having it out there and would I like it sooner absolutely if we were going to part ways with this I would have said we should have probably parted ways 12 months ago six months ago at this point we're so close I I would say to part ways and spend three5 $3.5 million is when we're almost ready to turn live I I would say I I Mr Che so you've actually seen talk to Oracle and and S and writing all this or are you just getting it from the sheriff so I have seen some of the information uh I haven't seen all of the information so it's it's a mix of some of the both so maybe Mr chair that goes back to the the ask that maybe they need to send a representative here and this needs to be a broader you know discussion and information for us so that we can rest easy this happened in my city and so I feel along like jeie it's like are we pushing this down for whatever reason maybe we just need some explanation maybe we'll be right with that that this is we are going down the path we need to have but I don't think it's unfair to ask that they come and talk to us so at least we're more informed right Mr chair I agree I mean thank you for your comments I mean it's been a tragic situation and and our hearts for for the deputy involved and everything but I also want to say that we they do have cameras on the cars as well it's not ideal I understand there could be shortcomings and I and I do appreciate your thoughts because you're you're thinking about everyone that's out there on the road um and and that impact so um I'm hoping maybe we do a committee the whole so we can have it just an update review ask questions get the details and um and then we can move forward confidently to know knowing exactly where we are and that would be my suggestion on it I think it's jumping the gun to say we're we want to get him in here and stretch and dry them and cut ties with Oracle the ask is just to to see and narrow here the source of data from The Source itself there's a risk to being the guinea pig for a new system and we've done it before we've bid on it before and sometimes it's bit us back there's a risk yeah it sounds good because you're going to save money but with that comes uh thean company changes hands it goes out of business all these things before the end goal and the end game so uh I'm all for bringing them in here and uh and hearing it right from them I guess I I don't have any other agenda there there's yes there is Squad cameras and Squad mics but depending on the circumstances that Squad could be pointed over here and your incident is over here and it isn't a lot of good and uh commissioner catch Mark to your to your point I I'm not against uh bringing them in I absolutely I think that is a very important part I I that should probably should have happened a long time ago I this is that that whole uh quandry as to the Sheriff's ability to manage his department and make decisions versus the County's uh purse and being able to fund things in that kind of uh quandry that always exists uh but that aside again uh I don't I think what I would ask at this time is that we pick a date and schedule a committee the whole sometime uh between now and April or or middle of April to we have this is going to be a loose thing because if you were asking Oracle to come in there we're kind of a little bit at the mercy of them but I think if we give them a DAT of saying that we know later than April 15th so we're giving them six weeks for Oracle to come in here and present to us and give us some good information as to where they're at and you guys can hear from the horses mouth as to when they think they can get this go live for us I think you guys all deserve that information uh as well as the public um so what I think we'll come back on the 19th and set the date on the 19th because that way you can reach out to Oracle to and the sheriff to get that date picked out is that sound like a reasonable [Music] expectation all right I this this was a very good discussion I think uh it is a discussion that'll hopefully uh yield us uh something well you all right thank you I don't know that we have to make any thing on that it's come forward in the March 19th all right next would be the committee recommendations we have the approve and adopt recommendations from the Personnel committee so the Personnel committee met on February 27th uh this we had a number of different items to review this was the first time with our uh was it I wouldn't call it quarterly uh this three times a year is that it is the trimester review of positions at the County uh so with that uh we had the there was U four different positions that were discussed uh in implementation within the county uh the first one was the egg and drainage coord coordinator position uh this was largely due to the increased number of Grants as well as the increased number of projects that we are administrating administering within our County ditches and being able to make uh this happen as well as being able to meet the needs of the citizens on these ditch systems who uh which is growing exponentially in taking a large amount of times uh so this would allow this position would allow the uh current uh drainage manager to be able to do with more of the uh administrative side uh the administrative of the grants as well as the uh uh reporting of those as well as the natural res resource position of his role well this one would be able to work with the uh egg drainage inspector and being out in the field and being able to have more conversations with uh individuals and their issues within their ditch systems the second item was the compost uh recycling facility assistant this position has been kind of uh articulated to us uh over the last six months this one has to do with the incre the need to increase hours out there as well as the uh constraints that we had with part-time Staffing being able to uh get them trained and be able to work long enough to meet the uh seasonal needs which are no longer seasonal and tend to run year round so this is uh making a permanent fix to that uh the other one here is the adult protection Social Services worker is a state funded uh a position that with these funds and and Grant funds that are available for it um the position would re be removed if funding would change and it's largely due to meeting case loads the other one is the uh reaching rural jail social worker this is a pilot program that we were in in the previous year and the has shown to be very fruitful there's been grant funding to extend this uh program forward once again the recommendation was to approve the position uh contingent that the funding is still available and when the funding is uh no longer available the position would be uh removed through attrition Mr chair very well recapped Mr chair uh well I I spent the better part of Friday and yesterday business hours looking at this and the supporting staff provided almost a 100 pages of information and I took the time to read it so I have I'd like to discuss each one of these not some more than others I mean I I know you got two that are go along with it so the bar is pretty low here that you know you're going to get one probably for sure to uh go with it I don't know but should I just start out with the first position here and okay so I got a pretty good understanding of how it works with Matt he he works hard and I understand the duties there's the the Manpower there's the equipment part and there's the uh dealing with land owners and public hearings and all that I see in the narrative here it says this cost Savings of the county to the county with this uh there's a little different part to this that we don't have with other positions in the county and that is that certain work that's directed to a certain ditch project can be built to that County ditch but once you take on a staff person you can't part out the staff work to that County ditch as you can a professional service let's say with your excavator or your consultant that helps with a meeting or your viewers those all are built to uh the county ditch that they're working on so one point to point out is that we have a district commissioner Holland that has very little County ditch in it right is that your District so with this kind of position then your constituents are paying for a position that they really are never benefiting from and I that's where I like the idea of a pay is you go rather than attaching a position to this and then then the people pay that are actually benefiting from it we have equipment we have a person trained well is getting trained because the last person jumped the fence for the parks department but we have a person that will be trained to operate the equipment as far as that goes we only have so much equipment and a guy to run it so that was my consideration with that one is I would I'm more in favor of pay as you go PR service if possible directed to that particular ditch and then the people pay for it that are benefiting from it commissioner vetch okay so not only does Matt do ditches he also writes a lot of Grants and I have in my district have had him burdened with um people wanting noxious weed grants and uh taking up his time with those various Wetland grants and so he's not just doing just ditches he's so so he will pay for himself over and above because he does get a lot of these grants he knows everything about how to get the grants and I think he just got the one of the ashbo one which is what like $300,000 didn't he just get that Grant like 412,000 yeah so I don't see that position I think because that is kind of a all-encompassing and that is you know his that's his you know expertise as Grant running writing and he's doing it so well he is very responsive to my district they really like him um but yet too they my ditch people like him as well so I think I think it's too much work to do both and I I think this way we have more grant writing that's going to benefit my district the county is old so to my you Mr chair also I um when you're talking about the ditches even some of those funds are grants that he writes to do some of those inlets and different things to offset water quality and and he his time can be paid for by those grants as well and so it also benefits then that those costs don't keep increasing on the ditches which which e you know get charged back to the land owners so um there's kind of a whole picture too with that um in that piece so I have a question about the noxious weeds in the cities how much are we responsible for with noxious weeds in in the cities we're not well you had mentioned a request from your but Matt's the expert on the granting so he's the one that helps support with supporting documents the mayor of Albertville for example so he's the one that helps find the grant pushes it to them helps do the supporting documents it's timec consuming so here's another aspect to that this uh position is going to allow Matt to go back to administering uh noxious or uh weed applicator licensing we had gone away with it because his capacity just wasn't there over the last couple years uh given all the workload uh this position will now be able to bring back the capacity where right now uh people or having to travel even outside the county to get those weed application weed weed applicators licenses uh this uh I would this was specifically asked in the meeting and this their goal is to been be able to bring that back within the next year uh and being able to administer them here in the county uh multiple times throughout the year uh that's one ask and the other part is you know what the inequity side of it uh commissioner catch Mark whether you know it or not we don't charge back feed lots for the our feed lot administrator we don't charge back people that are abusive to their kids for we don't charge back those child uh those social workers to that position there just there's always an equity and who benefits from what from a county workers's perspective sometimes you're broke sometimes you're flush and that's just the way it is if we start going down this role it in a lot of it we just can't so well thank you Mr but like I pointed out when I started this is a unique circumstance with the billing process that's really written in statute ditch laws they say that there is a process for building to the ditch but that's all I have on that the compost and recycling facility now what 90 pages of I can't remember all this but what's with this position of its Granite what do the expanded hours because it sounds like they expanded at January 1st already but what would the public see driving through the gate with this new position as far as more days or more hours in a week that it the gates are open did that get talked about you added uh yeah you want to take okay morning morning so commissioner catchmark um those you correct those expanded hours were included on Jan one where we expanded um Wednesday 8 to 5 being open as well as reduction of hours from 9 to 6 on Tuesday Thursday but back down to 8 to5 on Tuesday and Thursday and then that second Saturday and third Saturdays of the month stay the same at 800 to noon but to answer your question about the the employee and what the public would see with an additional employee current well last year we utilized two part-time seasonal people that they both of those did not work a straight A right they they're part-time what we were informed of was that 67 day they get 67 work days from start to finish they have to start at the same time so if we start them on May 1st they're both done now by let's say if we go by last year September well we're still busy after September we don't slow down anymore if you looked at I don't know if you looked at the Excel spreadsheet of our customer intake last year we were up um to 8,300 that from the previous high of 7,400 and now we're not even counting the brush pile compost we can't keep track of those numbers so that's another 6,000 that we estimate so we're at 14,000 with the same staff so they would see additional help more efficient work and better problem material sorting where we're not taking in trash and having to sort out in our recycling bins and whatnot we'll have more eyes on people when they come in okay thank you another question on the score money that could be used to pay for this person's salary all or in part right well bar by law or by rule yeah but I think the payment goes through Planning and Zoning first then reimburse through score but by a rule I'll just say now I mean it's discretionary how we spend it we can spend it with with with staff yes okay so my consideration here is that we have the unknown with the score money to the cities and Township starting next year and there really hasn't been a plan laid out as to what that will look like I would like to see the plan and how it would relate to the salary of this position be before it's approved so in January it was my understanding that we were going to take a look through an RFP by the decision of the board with not giving the score money appropriating to me this year instead of prolonging it and allowing the cities and townships to maintain their budget it was requested at the board to have an RFP put out for countywide recycling take a look at all the things that we're doing and that process is is taking place currently where we have a meeting tomorrow to discuss and put it out there and to the point from a budgeting for this year from the egg bag savings If this job was this position was approved and began after vetting uh like a May 15 June 1 position it's going to be about 90 if not 100% funded for the year so based on some of the excess score funds that we may had available with the egg bag savings by removing that it should be it would be negligibly close because we'll have 48,000 yes because we estimated of the 44,000 we were spending in a bags we still had to spend in December which reflected some of the bills that we're we're getting in January so we were we just assumed let's call it $330,000 from that AG bag money plus the $166,000 for our part-time seasonal help so we had 56,000 to table begin with and like I saying that's we're saying May June started we we'll be negligibly close to being 100% funded for this position for this year and then it's just a bigger discussion on uh what we have to do with our score funding to make sure that there's enough score funding left next year when that's what they're going to bring forward to us in the next 60 days as to how we want to transition our score funding to the cities and townships or 90 days I don't know where guys could be months months yeah just depends on how long the vendor will take to take a look at everything but it was going to be brought forth by the end of the summer hopefully by at the latest mid-fall honestly it was we'll have it for an implementation January 1 so that way we can make sure there's enough left over funds to continually fund this position okay thank you that's all I had on that thank you next letter C very brief I'm okay with this and mainly because of the wording that says uh once there's any changes to the Future Grant proceeds would trigger a review of the position and that just allows for just that and not that it disappears someplace else so I'm good with that letter D the rural jail social worker and again a lot of material I looked through it but it looks like this would cost about 21,000 taxpayer dollars over two years if this was approved now I'd like to see an actual source of data on you you note 50 people you pick the number that you work with with this program and you take 50 on the other side of the aisle that didn't get help and you show us after a year or two years pick a time frame but not 90 days or 6 months for them to make a poor choice and reoffend but a longer period of time and see how many get captured again that had the program and how many did not and I'd like to see that instead of a speculation or something that says it's been working fine we think it'd work better if we had more staff but my understanding is that Jill that that study has not been tabulated in a some type of a document that we can look at correct well we have yep um and I thank you so much for your time Commissioners and looking at these positions as as we brought them forward um I agree with you commissioner katchmark that would be wonderful to have a more longitudinal study that would be able to look at program participants and those who didn't get you know kind of a control um sample if you have you um I've talked with Captain Ali the difficulty in that is that we don't have a system where we are able really to go back and track folks right now it's all manually done so our um current re-entry staff literally takes those the folks she works with and then in the 60 days goes back and has to go back to the jail system and relook at if anybody offended in that time and what that would look like so it's very int time intensive right now but that is something that we would love to have going forward so it is um definitely on our radar that if we continue to get traction with this with with this service that we would want to do that absolutely okay so Mr chair it sounds like the selling point was uh the grants for 100,000 we're going to try and get more data in the future and it's only going to cost 21,000 over two years if this is approved that's what it seems like and that it's even a less number because this position is going to be only working 50% within the jails and then they're also going to be doing other services so they'll be able to capture uh funds from uh y you're depending on how you look at the funding yes you are correct commissioner katmar the other part is that there's this cuss up um grant funding application and this is part of that Fellowship so this was the implementation grant for the first 15 months and then after that we'll be applying for extended funding which is pretty likely so hopefully that remaining dollar amount will be covered and I think I'm I might be misspeaking here but I think because we can apply these funds to our existing position our County ly dollars were decreased um for that position position for this year so that's not really shown here but because we can apply these same funds for that position our Levy might not be as high for that position that as it currently is so it's a savings yeah okay well I'll make this as painless as possible I'll make a a motion to approve HHS is going to be one for one or one on one but I'll make a motion to approve that letter C the adult protection services social worker just see are you not going to do anything with the other ones or no well I'm not someone else can make you catch that I can make a motion to approve those policy changes unless you want to if you want yeah those ones are pretty boiler plate if you want to make that too so that's okay we'll split it up I we'll join it together with my motion here all right the uh policy amendments A and B approve with letter C on the adult protection services social worker that's my motion to approve motion by commissioner catchmark to approve the dult protection uh Services social worker and policies 102 and 10 or 702 uh to the Personnel policy second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I po same sign all right motion passes unanimously all right we have to take action on the other three positions entertaining any motions or discussion I'll make a motion to approve those positions I'll second that motion by commissioner detri second by commissioner Holland to approve the egg and drainage coordinator the compost recycling facilities assistant in the reaching rural jail social worker any other discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign I motion passes for one all right that concludes today's agenda is there any last parting comments before we adjourn I have a last parting comment I'm sorry sure um March's women's history month and I just like to acknowledge that we have three very smart women on our board and it's historic that we have three women women our board so um congratulations and I think it's uh speaks very well for our County that we um are at this this position at this time thank you thank you thank you Jamie all right well then with that uh we'll adjourn here at 10:30