this meeting is being recorded good morning everyone it is Tuesday January 16th we'll call the r County Board of Commissioners to order we'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all good morning everyone on this very chilly Tuesday morning I think it's right now at 5 below with a wind chill of about 20 below uh we'll get started here with the minutes from January 2nd in the workshop of January 9th we can approve these minutes collectively or individually I will stand for any uh edits or modifications Mr chair yes okay under the one 1224 minutes and I'll just refer to it as 3A and it was uh correction that I did to the minutes and it I had it typed out but somebody did some editing so I'm going to add a little bit that will be less uh heartburn hopefully on whoever didn't like it but second paragraph it talks about the board was advised by the county what what could be inserted there what I'd like inserted is to finish the thought of why I wanted legal advice and that's going to be I'll call it we were advised that this was an ineligible use of the money so I'd like that inserted as to why I was looking for legal advice on if the payment should be continued or needed to stop immediately so that's that's all I got there I'm I'm comfortable with that with it stating that as long as the that the initial advice was was recanted or was uh well because we were misadvised originally of that the information so make sure that that it wasn't that we're not paying ATT that we were advised that it it was that way when ultimately when they came back it was like no we got better clarification on it so right and but that was a you know removed from my correction but it still remains in quotes so it really isn't my quote anymore so that's why today I'm just going to insert U language that's more acceptable after clarification that we can just say uh based on being advised that it was an ineligible use of the money so with that I'll uh I'll approve the minutes with that correction from the board meeting all right so we have a motion by commissioner catchmark second by commissioner commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign and a Mr chair motion passes unanimously yes okay on the uh Workshop then number two just uh based on feedback and I mentioned it to you that constituents are calling about the flag and the seal and if the board's going to take a position on it and there's apparently a letter that's ready to go or is that yeah we'll we'll discuss that here as the agenda item I'll put I'll position on a quick discussion for you okay then uh I'll approve those Workshop minutes from 1 n to 24 all right motion by commissioner catchmark to approve the workshop minutes from January 9th I'll second second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I oose same sign Workshop minutes approved unanimously today's agenda I'm going to add to today's agenda under items for consideration a brief discussion and making sure that there is collective approval of the letter regarding the state flag and state seal uh for one item for discussion a second item for discussion under which will be B1 for the uh flag seal discussion letter and then will be B2 I'm going to petition on a brief discussion on the appointment to the uh cannabis uh moratorium committee uh there's some internal uh shifting here among the board so that'll be item B2 is there any other things that need to be added to the agenda today if not I'll entertain a motion I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Holland to approve the agenda I'll second second by commissioner catchmark any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign all right motion uh agenda is approved unanimously today's consent agenda would anyone like to remove anything from today's consent agenda for further discussion Mr chair yes Item B is in boy three the budget amendment report for discussion B3 right all right and I'll make a motion then to accept the consent agenda with that one item remove for discussion all right we have a motion by commissioner catchmark to approve today's consent agenda with the removal of item B3 I'll second second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I oppose same sign today's consent agenda is approved minus B1 or B3 B3 is now up for discussion I will uh I'm assuming Heather or Lindsay will make their way to the podium to answer any questions that uh board members may have floor is yours commissioner catchmark thank you Mr chair so I got this looked at at the end of last week and talked to third floor staff as time allowed but they were working on other projects and we were working throughout the day U getting responses from them I'll just looking at the report page one here it looks like a good start to to what happened um my questions what I got got it narrowed down to our okay there was money moved from One Fund to another in a lot of cases it was 60 something to 60 something and it just it looks like there was money and that's tax levy dollars that move from one fund to another that were allocated for another reason so I'm just I'm wondering if finance and the budget team is is keeping an eye on these items as far as Trends to see if is this ongoing that there's always extra money and then it it conveniently can be sent somewhere else I'm kind of looking for the pattern there they explained some of the individual moves that made sents and then I I got one this morning that was sent over the weekend that I didn't catch so I didn't have time but a couple of them like these Highway ones with lost funds those ones I can figure out on my own so I guess that's my question is a little more description as to why this money was available in its from its original place to move someplace else is is kind of what I wanted to discuss okay good morning chairman Commissioners um we're starting to get through this budget process and we're starting to see Trends as commissioner ketchmark had said but it's a learning process as we get through this I know Chad had discussed and sent you an email about the leftover funds he was G to make it there he is do you have any questions on that specific item or no not Mr chair not on those specific and that I got this morning at 8:00 so I had responded that I didn't have time to really look into it or talk to anyone it's more some of these others that I mean the last thing I can figure out but just in general I just want to draw attention for the finance and budget team to see is there patterns here of money being you know stored that we historically haven't used but if we needed somewhere else it's conveniently available it it seems like and I'll defer to fellow board members here but but it would seem like if we ran a little tighter that there was less extra money there would be a process to actually come forward and say you know we don't have the money we got to appeal to the general fund per se instead of having extra pots here and there per se and this is something we're just starting to monitor as we get further into the process as we this is one of the benefits of Oracle before we didn't have so much detail of what was left over so we'll start monitoring Trends okay so how often do we see these again is it quarterly these are monthly monthly yep so next month now hearing what maybe there's others that are concerned as I am but will this get maybe cleaned up a little bit starting next month or yep I reached out to the budget analyst earlier and told her we would like to see more detail and more of a description on these so we she's going to make that change for next month and then at this year's budget meetings and and all that process then you'll look at the trend individ ually which which I've done in the past and I've had help to say okay this is a little off why when you never use this much do you continue to ask for this much but you're all going to take a closer look at that see how that applies to this all right Mr chair that's it I just want to draw attention because like I said it's a good start but you just I'm wondering why that's available in all these instances okay all right I discussion I was one question that I was going to ask was one on the uh and I see Chad's back there on the 230 from the right easement RightWay to the Professional Services and then at the end of the year I'm guessing they prepaid for maybe some contractual uh Professional Services into 2024 or they reconciled the contract that they didn't have enough money within their internal budget pardon me want me to come up yeah if you goodidea all right good morning everyone morning so um yeah we transferred 230,000 from easement basically right of way to engineering and in general when we're starting in June July doing budgeting in 2022 looking at 2023 we're looking four to 17 months out and in general what we start our starting point is on a reconstruction project we're you know in general your soft costs are 20 to 25% that includes everything and so we looked at our project said okay you know and we split between RightWay engineering and and testing and everything else and then two major things in this in 2023 is we took the intersection at 25 and 83 That was supposed to be last year and then we broke out bradock separately and we delivered that a year earlier so we had the engineering testing with that project and then the RightWay in general was under for 23 for lost because we didn't get to buy right away and Handover yet because that process to determine what the actual scope of the project was took longer than expected so one option is you know we could always just pull directly from Lost leave right away where it's at and then at the end of the year it just goes back into lost I mean it's rather than take it from that account but we figure we'll just keep it within the same budget year so like I said the nice part of a loss it doesn't go into General it just goes right back in whatever we don't spend just goes right back to that account so um and we can definitely provide more detail next time you know we were in a rush to get some inv is paid so we could have provided Finance more detail and we'll do that going forward no problem I appreciate the explanation so it makes sense so good thank you thank you now Mr chair I'll unless someone has another question I'll make a motion to approve those budget amendments for December 23 all right motion by commissioner catchmark I'll second second by commissioner Holland any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I poose same sign uh item B3 is approved unanimously now moving on to the timed agenda items we have Alicia hair from Soil and Water here to approve approve the re County aquatic invasive species prevention and management plan for 2024 through 2028 uh good morning Mr chair members of the board we show here with right Soil and Water um I just wanted to uh talk a little bit about invasive species um here and um just for any of you who might not be familiar with um AIS as I will refer to them aquatic invasive species um they are species that are not native to Minnesota and cause harm to economic Prosperity the environment and human health so very prevalent example of these is zebra muscles um they proliferate onto docks and lifts and uh cause problems in water intakes they'll cut your feet um so uh just as an example of uh a couple of examples of why species like this are uh detrimental to Minnesota's Waters um the state legislator recognized that in 2014 and established a item in the uh General budget of $10 million that is distributed among the counties a right County share of that is uh about $240,000 annually that pays for um our AIS inspection program to check boat stocks and lifts for invasive species uh treatment programs decontamination station and uh more that is given directly to the county first and then uh it goes to Soil and Water who actually administers the program uh as part of this we have this AIS management plan uh it was originally developed in 2015 it was updated in 2017 um and then I'm here today to update it again this was a fairly significant update um it's just it was a learning curve um and then a lot has changed in the last uh six years so uh we took the plan and then I tried to take a little um uh the one Watershed one plan comprehensive manage Water Management plans it kind of took a a page out of their book to for the structure of it identifying our goals and then the strategies of how we're going to do it so the the purpose of this plan is to say here are our strategies that we want to go forward with for the next five years in how we're going to combat aquatic invasive species and the source of funding that will uh come from it it is primarily that state fund but the swcd uh contributes in kind uh for staff time as well as several local interest groups like Lake Associations do contribute to the actions for aquatic invasive species um as well it was uh publicly available so just real quick about the process we had a survey uh that allowed um residents to and um other people who recreate in Wright County to talk about how they prioritized AIS and how they saw them as a issue in Wright County uh we took that into consideration for writing the plan uh I created a draft which went through the AIS uh committee which includes two County Commissioners to S swcd staff and um some local interest groups uh reviewed the plan and then we released it for public comment so it was available for public comment for 30 days uh you have a list of those comments and the indicated responses is is part of the the packet as as well so now it is here for final uh approval I will certainly entertain any questions that you you have on the plan itself Mr chair yes I would just like to comment um I really just um love the way you put this together and it's really data driven um that was one thing I really um we've targeted ours um for inspections and um for decontamination and as well as the Partnerships that you work with with all the Lake Associations and and just everyone involved to address aquatic invasive species which has a huge impact in right County with all their lakes and U Rivers running through so thank you for your hard work welcome I think for board members one important thing to point out is the funding that we get around 238 240,000 is a relatively linear number over the last decade and the buying power that we have with that has diminished greatly over the last decade uh between the cost of treatments and the cost to do inspections we're probably seeing about 30% buying power loss over the last 10 years with the with that 238 to $240,000 I think that's probably one of the biggest key points to uh pull out of this uh management plan as we without new funding sources we are continually having to use this management plan to decide how to allocate these scarce funds because uh deciding between treatment and inspections especially the inspections this last year we had to have a very Frank discussion as to can we afford to even treat curly Leaf anymore because the cost of doing uh Starry Stone Ward and mil foil were so high that something has to give in that aspect so Mr chair yes and thanks again for coming in today Alicia so I'm wondering about these Lake Associations or lakes that don't have associations are there ever conversations to say uh if you wanted more you know if you did form a Lake Association this would be available to you you'd be able to fund it because I've had conversations about the ditches going through lakes and all that and they don't always want to subscribe to that but is there any movement to to get more Lake Associations or lake Improvement districts that would maybe be able to help with this it is always a um a topic of discussion and I'm certainly willing to help Lake Associations and Lake Improvement districts uh move forward with this they tend to uh save their money for the treatment of the aquatic invasive species as opposed to uh inspections uh if that's I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to um but uh generally their first priority is the treatment of the species that exist in there um and that is also part of the reason that we have adjusted our inspection strategy to be we concentrate it to the lakes that are the most risky those that have Zebra muscles and Starry Stone wart and are very popular um but then we also sporadically are out there um uh checking other Landings even if they're not um uh the most popular I mean you don't just do uh you know check the speeds of people on the main highways you might concentrate on those efforts but okay occasionally you go to some of the slightly other roads just to make sure that people aren't um you know viol you know speeding off there and causing a dangerous situation so that's some of the adjustments that we made to try to add that fairness to it just to to make sure that we're we're still checking um some of those um areas and there is availability for anyone to purchase inspections for their Lake then we usually try to add at least a little um to to those Lakes as as we can um and we are continuing to offer our uh treatment grants uh as well so the vast majority of the lakes in Wright County uh their Lake association's cost share in the treatment cost they do have money into it so I would say that's uh upwards of 80% of the lakes that that get treatment have some cier on it would i' say that's about an accurate number I think so uh but we do um issue our treatment grants to every single Lake uh that we have a cont for um that has always been the struggle is maintaining the contacts because they they tend to shift whether you know who who's the treasurer of this year I I don't know I'm not at all those those meetings but we try to at least send the information to every Lake Association to make sure that they know about our uh program so they can have an opportunity to receive funding and then there's about another 10 laks that Pur just individualized inspection hours on top of that that we use out of these funds so the majority do not cost share or purchase additional inspection hours but vast majority of them have their individual money from their Lake Associations into the treatment cost so yeah and if I may Mr chair um those um I believe it's about Seven Lakes that do cair on the inspection program they double the size of our inspection program so I just want to to highlight that that they it's those Lakes but they are the they are very popular uh Lakes as well so they are good places to do inspections and the just I don't want to understate the amount of energy and money that they put into uh into this issue thank you so at this time uh we'll be looking forward to uh uh get a motion to approve the management plan to start with Mr sh I'll make that motion and I just want to add we also um agreed moving forward with some educational piece that um we will be supplying or working with all the lakes for for um self cleaning tools that will be signage and education and so that they'll be be able to utilize those tools um going or going in or leaving the lake so I just that was an addition that we added and it was a really good idea so um all of the Lakes will have some kind of um of education and the tools um to help prevent the spread thank you and I'll second that resolution all right we have a motion by commissioner Dietrich second by uh commissioner Holland for the approval of the uh invasive species prevention and management plan and the aquatic invasive species prevention aid all right with that it's a resolution any other discussion hearing none commissioner catchmark i i i i i all right motion passes and unanimous sounds great thank you you moving on to the 920 Ed agenda item uh lindsy Meyer for the board chair signature on the change order to continue with the Oracle Support Services through 1231 2024 good morning Mr chair board what you have in front of you is a request for an amendment to our original support Master Services agreement we did budget the 114,000 in the 2024 year so during the budget process we had discussed this that my team would likely need um an amount of money and we had agreed collectively that 114,000 would likely suffice um what this um agreement is for is in the event that we have support that we need where for example um a ticket has been entered we can't internally figure it out with our staff members then we enter a ticket and request support from the Sierra Cedar team to um maintain the system this also incorporates uh previously in our agreement included only the quarterly updates for the ECM the um the financial side of it and now that we've gone live on the HCM the payroll HR type modules um the additional fee is another 7500 per update uh so it's an additional 30,000 above and beyond what we had originally anticipated for the quarter early updates that is all encompassed within this $114,000 change order question so um it's basically you're just doing all a cart now for Sierra cedar or do we still have them has been before that's what this specific agreement is for just it's an as needed basis okay and it's only time in materials so if we don't use up to that 114 we're not going to be a build for it okay Mr chair yes well thanks Lindsay I think this a good plan to kind of scale back um all the proservices on this so like this 23 I think we add 1.7 million into this for all these Consultants so that's going away and it's reduced to 114,000 is that right different agreements entirely the agreement that you're referring to is for our implementation services are we is that staying the same rate that we are now live so we are at the tail end of that agreement just wrapping up with what they call is hyperare just additional uh higher level of support as we go live so the majority of the 1.7 million is gone right we don't need it in 24 correct and we're going to be reduced to 114,000 potentially Max in 24 for ongoing support and maintenance right correct you have yes we've got we've got our phase one implementation costs which is over andone we are on phase two wrapping that up now um we have discussed with Sierra Cedar that for our hyperare period or our um higher level of support post go live we are kind of breaking that up into two separate spots areas buckets um one for the payroll HR which is go has gone live now um but then we've also asked them to hold hold off on that hyperare for the budgeting since we are not actively using it for another couple of months we've asked them to hold off on that and they're going to provide us that higher level of support when we start using that module actively okay well thank you I think that makes sense and that's better to hear than the past amounts I mean you needed it but still it's a big difference from 1.7 to now that we're live we only need the the support and maintenance at this point Okay so just kind of to overview a little bit like the 1.7 is kind of the what I'm going to call classify as kind of like the purchasing cost because that's the integrating it the manipulating it to meet right County needs so then you have the technical support contract which is that 114 is the I don't know how this works how do you help me that piece of it and then you have a third bucket which I'm going to say is your project management bucket which is also kind of coming to an end which was that uh Tony Klo C yes yes okay that person is kind of the uh in between of all those different aspects County staff the implementing team the tech support team and tying all that together so we still have a little bit left of that integrating that 1.7 which they're calling it The hyperare because we haven't started doing budgeting yet we don't know where the technical issues are so we might need to have them do some different programming changes because we haven't delve into that yet so those are the three kind of that we're at so right now we're talking purely about the technical support bucket bucket and that they're estimating a cost of about 114,000 for this next year for technical support for the entire phase one and phase two of Erp yes this is for the whole system that was a good summary thank you chair uh um if I could say thank you guys uh it was a stressful week I know for you guys I think Friday was really stressful from what I've heard um you guys deserved a three-day break break but thanks for all the work you did um we really appreciate it and we saw it and just want to congratulate you and getting it through getting through it thank you for that recognition they put in they put in the effort to get the job done Heather rolled in a c here this weekend I didn't you know I didn't hear of any anything terrible that you know nobody got paid or anything so oh no they had some late nights they they put in the effort to get it done nice Mr Sher yeah I just want to say thank you on that too and and just a reminder that we knew you know there might be things that come up and staff was prepared to address those and then just have a lot of Grace for each other moving forward um and and just work towards the solutions thank you look at that looks like there's going to be a department of the Year nomination coming out of this there's been a lot going on well done thank you okay uh with that I will entertain a motion to approve that uh ability for design that contract I'll make that motion all right motion by commissioner Holland no second second second by commissioner Dietrich any further discussion hearing none all in favor say i i f same sign motion passes unanimously it looks like we have Chad I don't think see Virgil in the room so Chad's going to make his way to the podium here we have a few different resolutions to approve for the resolution to support the city of Monell's active Transportation Grant as the first item on there good morning Commissioners yeah we have two resolutions the first one is uh city monel is applying for active Transportation Grant they are state city they can receive the money but some of the trail sidewalk work is within our right of way so they need a resolution of support to basically say that we're okay with the sidewalk being on our right away I'll make the motion that we does it approve the resolution of support for the city of Monell's active Transportation Grant all right motion by commissioner Holland second second by commissioner Dietrich any further discussion hearing none resolution commissioner Shane i i i i i resolution passes unanimously thank you thank you next item y next item is another resolution for a Mot detour agreement uh menot has some work on us12 in 2025 um and it'll be a short portion of Casa 3 and 35 in theer County all right well let's do number three first and then we'll come back to the srts oh did I miss one no sorry no that's all right it slid into another page so but this is the uh detour resolution uh is there any discussion or I'll entertain a motion I'll make that motion to approve all right motion by commissioner catchmark second second by commissioner Shane to approve the mot detour agreement uh 10553 N7 any further discussion hearing none resolution i i i i i resolution passes unanimously now we have approve a resolution to support of the city of monel safe routes to school uh sidewalk Gap project kind of the same story you know we there's a short couple short pieces of 39 I think 75 near the schools and um it's just to complete their project within our right away that would be a nice project to actually get finished up bet y yeah all right I'll make a motion all right motion by commissioner Holland second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none uh resolution commissioner Holland hi hi hi hi hi resolution passes unanimous thank you thank you and now Matt is making his way to the podium we get to adopt the findings and orders for dismissal of petition for abandonment of County ditch 16 this was an item that was brought forward to us two weeks ago um Mr chair I want to say we got this in early December or something like that yeah I know everything blurs together yeah no this one we got in early December and just so the board knows on these first three items you are acting in Your Capacity as the drainage Authority for cd16 everybody's putting their drainage Authority hats on all right uh so there there any discussions on this this was uh from back in that December meeting for the uh petition that we had for the abandonment uh there was no justification uh for us to be able to grant that was kind of the uh order that was we directed staff at that time to draft findings for denial or dismissal uh so at this time we're is formally looking to adopt that Mr chair just a quick question is that this now communicated back to the petitioners for this yes I can I believe you receiv received the original email and we could respond to that okay all right thank you m Mr chair commissioner dedri we are also going to be mailing copy of this order to all benefited land owners along the drainage system so everyone will get a copy of it that's in bullet point two of the order or guess bullet point B paragraph B of the order section thank you Mr chair yes thanks Matt now there was an appeal process for everything is that attached also in the notification to the folks that if you don't like this you can do this um I I don't think they can appeal this it didn't meet the minimum qualifications Mr chair and commissioner katchar you can always appeal everything even if they fail that's Mt I mean there's always a process but the the the appeal process is laid out in statute we don't have to notify them of it they they can read the statute I and follow that directive that's in there okay and I know you had the recommendation to draft findings so that they would have it kind of in a capsule if they want to look at it closer and and appeal it so I guess as long as there's at least a notification in there that says here's a statute to look at if we don't spell it out because we're the ones then that get get the call to say Hey how do I appeal this per se well we got to be careful because we would be treading on the area of offering po IAL legal advice at this point so we want to be careful uh giving them the information at that point they need to seek their own legal counsel uh if we start putting things in general that your process to appeal is here uh that is kind of in the area because we do have attorneys on staff that would could be perceived as us giving them legal counsel yeah and Mr chair commissioner catchmark some provisions of drainage law actually have appeal process stated in it and others do not which means then it goes underneath the general appeal process of red of ciary to either the district court or the court of appeals so um I don't like to give out legal advice to people because if we indicate one and we're incorrect it can be held against us later on so um we're best just to say go get your own attorney and figure it out okay thank you all right um Mr chair I'll make a motion to approve the adoption of the findings and order for dismissal of petition for abandonment of County ditch number 16 all right we have a motion by commissioner Dietrich I'll second second by commissioner catchmark any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I oppose same sign motion passes unanimous next next on the there is to adopt the findings and orders accepting the viewers report and accepting the redetermination of benefits for County ditch 19 uh 16 oh 16 you're right I'm sorry this one here is we had the uh public hearing a couple weeks ago and uh we are now at the point to uh move forward with the adoption of these uh redetermination of benefits and viewers report I'll make that motion Mr chair second motion by commissioner catch Mark second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I oppose same sign motion passes unanimous all right next would be the third item on their adopt the findings and orders and authorized signatures on the notice of drainage system interests for County ditch 16 Mr chair members of the board I can maybe explain what's going on here um underneath the drainage code we need to put something into the record um just notifying people that their parcel of property may have an interest in the drainage system and talking with John C this isn't the best practice of going forward when we do a redetermination of Ben benefits to then notify all the new owners that are in the system that there may be something such as an assessment or something on an file with the qu or the the auditor's office that a property owner should come and look at during a title review or search so this is just the best practice to putting people on notice that they should come and talk to us and the event their property is on this list I'll make that motion to approve Mr chair all right motion by commissioner catchmark second second by commissioner Shane any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I hi hi post same sign motion passes unanimously next would be to adopt the findings and orders for dismissal and Petition of Abandonment for County ditch 19 uh this is kind of the same as the first one this was one from back in December same petition or seven same but separate yeah Mr chair members of the board um now we're taking off our cd16 hat and pointing on our cd19 hat just so you know for the next three items um this is uh in conjunction with the first resolution you did on County ditch 16 this is kind of a joint petition for abandonment and staff um because these are different systems treated them separately in the orders that we're mailing out I'll make the motion Mr chair to adopt the findings for number four I'll second all right motion by commissioner catchmark second by commissioner Dietrich any further discussion hearing none in favor say I I oos same sign motion passes unanimously next would be adopt the findings and orders accepting the viewers report and adopting redetermination of benefits for County ditch 19 um once again same public same date of the public hearing that took place a couple weeks ago uh we are finally adopting those findings that we directed staff to draft soov second motion by commissioner Dietrich second by commissioner catchmark any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I oose same sign motion passes unanimously next would be adopt the findings in order to authorize signatures on notice of drainage system interest in County ditch 19 same as 16 putting it in the uh recorder's office for any future transfer of property second all right motion by commissioner Shane second by commissioner catchmark any further discussion hearing none in favor say I I I oppose same sign motion passes unanimously thank you thank you all right now moving on to items for consideration uh we will adopt all the numerous recommendations from the workshop on January 9th I think we went for a record there with a was it about a four and a half 5 Hour Workshop um I do do board members want me to read off all the recommendations are there any recommendations that you want to discuss Mr chair I would like to just um pull number four for comment please okay sure Mr chair yes uh I there's one I'm not going to go along with I I could make a motion for all of them except that one and number four initially here if okay so we'll discuss three and four and then then I'd U make a motion to approve the rest except for three and four all right so that I got a motion by commissioner catchmark to approve Workshop uh recommendations minus uh item number three and four do I have a second second by commissioner Dietrich all right any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign motion passes unanimously uh item number three score funding distribution to cities and townships uh coming out of the the recommendation was to Contin continue the current program as is through 2024 work the cities and townships to conduct a feasibility study that will guide the creation of a new program to implement in 2025 uh finance will work with planning and zoning and administration to reconcile the shortfalls of the budget to complete the pH feasibility study and develop a new program and offset additional staffing needs Mr chair I have a question can for the record have we confirmed with the mpca that there won't be any consequence to R County if we continue paying what's been called ineligible an ineligible use for the money Mr chair commissioner catchmark I don't believe it's an ineligible use it's just not best practice of the use so that's where we're implementing this change over a period of time um the npca given that it's not a best practice is not going to hold us negatively as a result of that and to my knowledge if we're making actions to do something better even more so that they would do nothing so well I just want to ask because I know we've drawn attention from them in the past before I got here on this funding so I wanted to clear that up Mr chair commissioner catchmark um they have not flagged it as an ineligible or illegal use is just simply a they're Simply Better practices out there and the npca um I I know there's many members of the business community that would feel otherwise but from a solid waste perspective they're probably one of the best Regulatory Agencies to work with in the state um I I think hopefully that came across during our Workshop from a couple months ago but um HEI the the outstate workers on this regulatory stuff is solid waste are absolutely some of the best to work with and they're they understand that changes in garbage take time and they're very willing to work with us on that and for anybody in the public that's seeing this in this change largely is coming from that the originality of of this funding giving out to the cities and townships was to get reporting information uh to meet metrics and to be able to quantify the amount of recycled Goods in the cities and Township but we have other reporting sources in the current time so that the need to do that is no longer uh necessary and with that being said then it would the npca would I'm reading into it the npca would like us to use that money elsewhere to leverage more better use of the funds since they don't want the money to be used for a duplication of information that we're already getting yeah all right so with that uh this is there a I'll make a motion that we uh approve the recommendation for the score funding distribution I'll second that all right motion by commissioner Holland second by commissioner Shane any further discussion Mr chair if I could just clarify U commissioner Holland you're moving the entire recommendation correct yes okay all right no other discussion all in favor say I I I oppose I motion passes for one all right next would be the economic development partnership uh presentation that would go to yes thank you Mr chair um I just would like to share my disagreement with um tying the appropriate the County's appropriated funding to the quarterly reports from EDP um the r County EDP has been a partner with Ray County for 30 years two Commissioners are now appointed to the EDP board to communicate the economic priorities of the county every city and right County and 94 private businesses are members of the EDP and right County should be leading collaborating and positively communicating with the EDP not coercing it uh by the threat of withholding funds um my recommendation was would be not to tie in in this not to tie the funding um to the Carly reports as there is no metric or threshold also identified with those reports so it would be hard to determine exactly when um those funds would be approved thank you commissioner Dietrich uh any other discussion no other discussion uh at this time I will entertain any motions uh for this chair I'll make a motion to approve the recommendations um um without tying the appropriated funds to the quarterly reports all right we have a motion by commissioner Dietrich to alter the recommendation in removing the requirement of the uh funds re receive approval on the April August and November prior to being sent to the EDP do have a second do I have a second do I have a second motion fails for the lack of a second all right Mr chair I'll go ahead and make a motion to the original Economic Development partnership um that it will be tied with the with the funding all right I'll second that all right we have a motion by commissioner Shane second by commissioner Holland to approve the recommendation as stated in the uh Workshop minutes or recommendations is that correct all right any discussion hearing none all in favor say I I I opposed I recommendation passes 4 one all right with that that receives all of the board Workshop recommendations are approved moving on to item B1 from items consideration all of you I distributed a letter that was created through Administration this is kind of a first draft at working on articulating some of the cost and concerns that we have regarding the state steel and state flag this is uh largely um a very generic one that's written out that we can use to for legislative or as well as governor's office alike and others to articulate our concerns um I just wanted to let uh the public know that we are taking a little bit of a stance because we have concerns on a variety of different aspects as well as uh helping to articulate to the making sure that the board is collectively in agreeance with these comments Mr chair thanks for I don't know who all drafted this but I haven't had a chance because I just got it can we take a minute yeah absolutely it's good to address it here sooner than later I got two calls late last week wondering what kind of position like I said we're going to do so if I can have a minute Mr chair while he's reading um just just a additional comment to that I've gotten feedback um that a letter is a good start um but it also encouraging us to uh send a resolution of where we stand um to the state uh in that regards to the changes and the costs to the county and its citizens and the process and uh definitely open to that that discussion so if if at some point we want to do that we certainly can we just would have to uh put together a resolution so um we can have a discussion probably at a later date about that but this is a a good start and I wanted to make sure that everybody gets a chance to review this and we can certainly modify it outside of this meeting if we need to going forward but I want to make sure that everybody has something uh to share with their citizens as well as people at the State office uh about this move and the ramifications around it thank you all right so with that I this was already item that was approved already so it's just an item for information at this point the other item was item uh B2 um but Mike we can come back to this if you have some comments afterwards okay uh item B2 there was the appointment of commissioner uh catch marking commissioner Holland uh to appoint to the abis uh moratorium re um I'm going call it research or uh study group yep whatever we call it right um so with that uh commissioner catchmark and I have had a discussion and they were interested in making a swap from himself to myself is that correct commissioner catchmark yes Mr chair I I have had little to no feedback on this in my district so apparently if they need cannabis maybe they're finding their own ways to obtain it I don't know but uh you've had others feedback I think more so and I've heard it at the mayor's meeting too that they were more interested in City involved to whatever degree so it wasn't that we had to arm wrestle over it or anything but uh so I'm fine with you taking that all right so that'll entertain a motion to make formalize that uh change make that motion all right motion by commissioner change second by commissioner Dietrich any further discussion hearing none all in favor say I I post same sign motion passes unanimous okay and before wej I'm assum follow back here with commissioner catchmark to see if yes thank you Mr chair so I think you know it's still unanswered about we haven't been informed how this is going to affect local government versus state if we have state judges and other staff occupying our building does it them become a state building where there's different rules and then for some of these replacement items do we have to or maybe there's already uh Union contract language if if you're forced to make a change in your equipment is there language that says the county will take that on versus employees and that could be employees anywhere but that's to be determined or decided I guess so you know there's some unknowns in here I I don't want to be too broad that this is going to be way more than it actually is if we if we find a way to take care of this ourselves and we're going to lessen the amount or if the statute doesn't say that we actually have to do this that's what I want to just make sure that we get that research and don't depend on the state to just come with a big stick and say you shall do this because I just I haven't seen the back page to say if you don't do this by this date what's going to happen because our deputies are still going to be able to arrest people regardless of that logo on the badge yeah I think there's some ambiguity out there as to if you still are representing whether it's on a deputy's badge or on a seal in outside of a courtroom whether whether there will be and what would be the ramifications of having that being portrayed that that question can't be answered right now I don't think anybody has that ability to answer that I don't think the statute itself rendered itself any type of uh punitive punishment or financial implications for doing so um as long as we're as accurate as we can be at this point I guess that's the main thing in good faith Attorney K will appreciate that in good faith we're acting with these figures that we're not going to try and embellish you know the inflate the numbers per se to make our case right I think staff did a very good due diligence on this we actually took a conservative lower number we actually feel that in all actuality this number will probably be higher than this uh as we will we're anticipating to see the price of replacing these items to probably uh grossly inflate with the high demand and high volume but we didn't factor that in we just based it on uh the numbers that we have at this current time uh we also have concerns based on the timeline if we had to do it by January 1 of 2025 how even achievable that is that's factor that we want to articulate in this letter that that short Runway is very unrealistic Mr and unbudgeted yeah and unbudgeted there's there's numerous factors here and for something that's driven in St Paul and not here in Wright County uh this is a cost and a burden that I don't want to share on the citizens of Wright County uh this is be something that the state should burden if they should be burdening at all but that's big very different discussion so Mr chair I had approved the draft I I would ask the staff if we can get a clean copy as Commissioners that we can hit forward to constituents when they ask rather than me trying to convey the whole thing that's very easy I will send you electronic copy to head forward yep when everything is done that will get sent to you uh yet this morning okay then motion made all right so actually we don't need to even make a motion it was already approved in the recommendations from Workshop so okay with that uh if there's no other business to attend to today we will adjourn the County board meeting at uh 956 please note that we have leadership at 10:30