Nowthen City Council — Transcript
Tuesday, October 13, 2026
Public Forum: Election Integrity and Council Conduct
Public Forum: Animal Ordinance and Property Use
Public Forum: City Spending and Development
2027 Overlay Project Feasibility
2026 Overlay Project Assessment Reduction
Assault Street Gravel to Asphalt Conversion Project
ISD 728 School District Referendum
Fire Protection Well Alternatives
Sheriff's Office Report and Flock Camera System
Votes (6)
2027 Overlay Project Feasibility Report
Dissent: None
Moved by Council Member Rango [00:39:15] · Seconded by Council Member Glazer [00:39:50]
Engineer Shane Nelson presented the feasibility report for the 2027 overlay project for Bailey Estates, Hunter Hills, and Milestone Ponds subdivisions. The project cost is estimated at $358,800 for overlay and $45,000 for patching, with the city splitting 50/50 with residents for overlay and covering 100% of patching. The resulting assessment of $4,600 per unit was noted as the highest for an overlay project to date. One road segment, 180th Avenue Northwest, was deemed too deteriorated for overlay and recommended for future full reconstruction.
2026 Overlay Project Revised Assessment
Dissent: None
Moved by Council Member Rango [00:42:04] · Seconded by Council Member Glazer [00:42:12]
Engineer Shane Nelson informed the council that bids for the 2026 overlay project came in under estimates, and construction costs were slightly lower as well. This favorable outcome allowed for a reduction in the original assessment amount from $3,660.80 to $2,900 per property, a savings of $760 for residents. The council was asked to adopt the revised assessment roll.
Assault Street Improvement Project (Gravel to Asphalt)
Dissent: None
Moved by None · Seconded by None
Engineer Shane Nelson presented a detailed report on the proposed Assault Street project, converting it from gravel to asphalt. Key points included: the project is not in the CIP, resident estimates ($170k-240k) were significantly lower than the engineer's estimate ($448k) which included culvert replacements, widening, and hill excavation. The project faces challenges with easements for widening and hill cuts. Attorney Rupy expressed concerns about the 'benefit test' for assessing $28,000 per property, recommending waivers from all 16 property owners to avoid court challenges and city costs. The discussion explored options for residents to donate in-kind work or cash to reduce assessments and the logistical challenges of splitting the project into two contracts (prep work vs. paving) due to competitive bidding laws and potential liability issues.
ISD 728 School District Referendum Presentation
Dissent: None
Moved by None · Seconded by None
Cory Fransson and John Nan from ISD 728 presented a detailed overview of the upcoming referendum to address projected student enrollment growth, particularly in Otsego and Rogers. The proposals include a new high school for 1900 students (with classrooms for 1500 initially) in Otsego, an E8 solution (elementary/middle school) on district-owned land, an education center for Level 4 special education students, upgrades to Career Technical Education (CTE) programs, and safety updates to school entrances. The cost for an average $400,000 home is $35/month. 'Vote No' alternatives include significant boundary changes potentially moving Nowthen students to Zimmerman, repurposing existing elementary buildings, and using more expensive lease levy options for safety updates.
Fire Department: City-Owned Fire Protection Well vs. Private Well
Dissent: None
Moved by None · Seconded by None
Fire Chief Miller presented an executive summary comparing two alternatives for a long-term fire protection water supply. The city-owned well at the fire department has an estimated cost of $289,883, offering permanent ownership, 650 GPM capacity, reduced liability, and better ISO rating potential. The private well alternative, an agricultural well, has lower initial costs but poses long-term concerns regarding liability, ownership, emergency access, and expenditure of public funds on private property. The Chief recommended the city-owned well. Questions arose about the specific insurance benefits of an improved ISO rating for residents and DNR permit requirements for the municipal well.
Sheriff's Department Report and Flock Camera Opt-Out Resolution
Dissent: Council Member Swenson strongly advocated for opting out due to privacy concerns.
Moved by None · Seconded by None
The Chief Deputy presented the September sheriff's report (136 calls, including 3 alarms, 17 medicals, 10 animal calls). Council Member Swenson then moved to opt out of the Anoka County Sheriff's Office's Flock camera pilot program, citing privacy concerns, data leaks, and misuse cases in other cities. He emphasized that his concern was with the system itself, not the Anoka County Sheriff's Office's integrity. The Chief Deputy clarified that in Minnesota, historical location data from Flock requires a search warrant, and emphasized the system's effectiveness in solving serious crimes like the recent sexual assault in Ramsey and Rapids. He also noted the importance of the associated drone program for fire response and confirmed the city's right to opt out.
Notable Quotes (16)
So that would would result in an assessment of $4,600 per unit. Uh which is just so the council's aware, I think it's our our highest uh assessment amount for Lake to date.
Yes.
So we have good news to share tonight. Uh the original assessment amount was 3660.80. Uh and based on the actual construction cost, uh it's our recommendation that those assessment amounts can be reduced to 2,900 per property.
Uh the total estimated project costs with everything included uh would be 448,000. Uh so again, I wanted to take some time to go through this because it's a substantial difference from what was presented to us from the residents, the 448 versus the roughly 175.
I would have concerns with an amount assessment of 28,000 that we would not be able possibly not be able to be that again we're not sure what the I don't know all the different values of homes out there whether something commercial or all residential all of that plays a factor but it being residential I would have concerns about meeting that benefit test.
Typically a court if two people did challenge us in court. The court has a no county district court judge has the policy. He could combine them into one case or keep them separate. And so there is but either way there's going to be court costs and attorney's fees, engineering cost and appraisal costs and and staff time involved in any loss.
Uh otherwise it would just be completing a portion of the work out of a set of plans and specs which uh I've never bid out of just a portion of the work. Uh unless there's like an alternate bid or something, but I I in my in my mind that's what I think or that's how I'm seeing this going based on council discussion.
They are projecting that within the next 5 years they will surpass Elk River as the largest community in our school district area. They are projecting their ultimate uh capacity growout is going to be about 40,000 residents that they'll be planning for that city.
Meaning that in that future 10 year out mark when we're getting closer to those benchmark numbers that we're expecting, we can add on just the classroom additions at that time without having to do additions to utilities, parking lots, cafeteria, all that at the same time.
So on this sheet that you guys have and on our website even if you go to the front of it it talks about where you can learn on there when we do this there's a like blanket if I'm 200,000 300,000 800 900 it'll tell you what that monthly will be and the yearly and also if you really want to dive into the lease you can put in your tax identification number and it'll tell you what your tax increase is proposed to be.
More importantly, the private alternative creates a long-term concern for um, involving liability, property ownership, emergency access, maintenance responsibilities, insurance, future property transfers, and the expenditure of public funds on private property. These issues would continue throughout the city's use of the site.
Although the municipal system requires a larger investment, it provides a permanent city ownership and control, approximately 650 gallons minute of design pumping capacity, reduced liability exposure, and a stronger foundation for seeking available ISO public protection class [clears throat] for water supply credit.
U next question is you know one of the things in regards to the private well that's been some of the things that have been included is of course the access and that's the bulk of the cost. some of the costs to to utilize that wealth. Um, previously when you'd come to the council, the the estimate was roughly $375,000. Have there been things that have been backed out of that 375 that would still need to take place um that aren't included in that almost $290,000?
I do nevertheless feel like it's probably time to opt out of the pilot because my understanding from the sheriff is that each city is able to opt out of the pilot. The reason for it is just news story after news story, privacy concerns. data leaks, um, you know, security, uh, breaches.
If we are going to track someone's historical location using this system, we have to get a search warrant. It's required by state law. There are instances which the council member referenced where warrants are not required and that's for u a specific statute under exit circumstances where if it's an emergency like uh a child was just abducted on Ball Street, we can search for that vehicle or plate immediately.
I don't know if you all saw the um the sexual assault that occurred in Ramsay and Rapids. It was a stranger abduction that occurred. Um the first victim was able to escape by fighting back. The second victim, same suspect, was not able to escape. Ultimately, she was subjected to a violent sexual assault. And in that case, the flack cameras in the area, which we searched with a search warrant, provided a key link to the suspect vehicle, not the suspect, but the vehicle he was driving and ultimately led to him being arrested.
Ordinances & Resolutions (14)
Original agenda item number for the Flock camera discussion, moved to 7B.
Minutes requiring changes to subjective language ('argued' to 'stated') and omitted comments.
Minutes requiring changes to subjective language ('argued' to 'stated').
Resolution authorizing the update to the drug policy, pulled from consent agenda for new business.
Case ruling that cities have the right to choose paper or electronic poll pads.
Proposed revision to an ordinance, thankfully voted down, regarding banning guinea fowl.
Refers to city rules regarding animal units per acre and general regulations.
Resolution for approving the feasibility report and calling for a public hearing for the 2027 overlay project.
Resolution to adopt the revised assessment role for the 2026 overlay project.
City's plan for infrastructure projects; the Assault Street project is not currently scheduled in it.
School district proposal for facility improvements and expansions to address student enrollment growth.
Required for the city-owned fire protection well, limiting pumping to a million gallons a year for fire protection only.
Rating used by insurance companies; a city-owned well could improve the city's rating for water supply credit.
Proposed resolution by Council Member Swenson to end the city's participation in the Anoka County Sheriff's Office's Flock pilot program.