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Lakeville City CouncilTranscriptFriday, January 10, 2025
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[0:00] [Music]
[0:30] I call to order the January 9th 2025
[0:32] Planning Commission meeting please join
[0:34] me in the flag
[0:53] pledge Miss Erikson will you please do a
[0:57] um roll call of members
[1:06] here
[1:09] here here draus here M here all right
[1:14] agenda item number three approval of
[1:16] minutes so November 7th 2024 Planning
[1:19] Commission meeting minutes and December
[1:21] 5th 2024 Planning Commission work
[1:23] session minutes fellow Commissioners any
[1:27] changes all right then the minutes will
[1:29] stand
[1:31] um Miss Jensen any
[1:35] announcements uh only that if these
[1:37] aren't if these items are not table they
[1:39] will move forward to the January 21st
[1:42] city council meeting right thank you all
[1:45] right agenda item number five the
[1:47] Kenrick Corner second edition this is a
[1:50] public hearing to consider the
[1:51] application of mezen brink construction
[1:54] and Engineering for the preliminary plot
[1:57] of one commercial lot to be known as
[1:59] Kenrick corner second edition and the
[2:01] vacation of public drainage and utility
[2:03] easement located north of 205th Street
[2:06] and East of Kenrick
[2:10] Avenue sorry I'm taking a look to see
[2:13] who I
[2:21] have is there anyone here to for that
[2:24] project I don't have oh I do I'm so
[2:26] sorry
[2:28] Jennifer e
[3:06] hi hi good evening um members of the
[3:09] commission it's very nice to be with you
[3:11] this evening I have no idea what was
[3:12] said before I walked in anything very
[3:15] short okay uh so my name is Jennifer has
[3:18] Camp uh I am the owner of Camp real
[3:20] estate and development I work with mess
[3:22] and Brink construction and Engineering
[3:24] who is the applicant this evening uh
[3:26] they are proposing to essentially plat
[3:30] and Outlaw for purposes of building and
[3:33] developing a uh multi-tenant commercial
[3:36] retail space so the property is about
[3:40] 1.6 acres uh the land use and the and
[3:43] the zoning are both commercial so from
[3:45] that perspective what they are proposing
[3:47] to do is consistent uh with what the
[3:50] current guiding and Zoning is for the
[3:51] property uh it was an outlaw that was
[3:54] the subject of a uh development
[3:57] agreement uh and a master planned area
[3:59] prior it never got built on never was
[4:02] constructed uh there were some
[4:04] improvements that were made uh primarily
[4:06] landscape buffering that was required as
[4:09] part of that initial uh
[4:12] process those trees are actually mature
[4:14] at this point which is great uh we
[4:16] intend to keep the majority of those and
[4:17] then add to it so uh the project itself
[4:22] is about a 9600 square foot building uh
[4:25] we are proposing at this time that there
[4:26] would be two users so they would
[4:28] essentially be on either end of the
[4:30] project uh each of them would have their
[4:33] own um parking lot associated with them
[4:35] as well although obviously overflow uh
[4:38] could go in either you can tell uh the
[4:41] parking lot on what would be the East is
[4:45] a slightly larger parking lot uh because
[4:48] that tenant space is proposed to be
[4:49] slightly larger um so with that um let's
[4:53] see
[4:55] here we skipped really quickly
[5:00] uh from a a construction building
[5:02] perspective I think that it fits uh the
[5:05] character that is uh in the city of
[5:08] Lakeville today uh especially with some
[5:10] of your newer uh retail commercial
[5:12] spaces uh the majority of it is pro
[5:14] proposed to be a black brick uh
[5:17] construction material consistent with
[5:18] your material requirements um and so uh
[5:22] M and Brink uh does quite a bit of
[5:25] development in this area uh and so
[5:28] obviously we've designed some something
[5:30] that hopefully fits within what you were
[5:32] hoping would be here so um for
[5:35] that very short and sweet um and I'm
[5:40] just glad I kind of made it was close so
[5:43] close thank you so anyway with that I
[5:46] will turn it back over thank you thank
[5:52] you good evening
[5:57] Commissioners Jack can I get my
[5:59] PowerPoint
[6:03] no not that
[6:14] one oh you're fine
[6:33] thank
[6:34] you all right so this is the Kenrick
[6:37] Corner second edition it's a preliminary
[6:39] pla in easement
[6:42] vacation uh it is located north of 205th
[6:45] Street uh east of Kenrick Avenue if
[6:48] you're familiar with the Porter House
[6:49] Restaurant it is just North of that
[6:54] location uh here's the Zoning for the
[6:56] area it's pretty much just uh C3
[6:59] commercial the town homes to the north
[7:01] are the
[7:03] rm2 uh medium density Town Homes
[7:07] there uh this is the preliminary plant
[7:10] it's a very simple it's currently an
[7:12] outlaw it's being replatted just as a
[7:15] single lot so not a lot of change on
[7:18] that
[7:19] one uh they are doing an easement
[7:21] vacation the when the original uh
[7:24] Kenrick Corner plat was recorded it
[7:27] included drainage and utility easement
[7:28] on the outlet lot uh in order to keep
[7:31] the title clean as we record the new
[7:34] plat we're having them vacate this
[7:36] easement and they will be rededicated
[7:38] with the final plat so there's no change
[7:40] in easement
[7:43] there uh site plan Miss has Camp kind of
[7:46] reviewed that um dual uh multi-tenant
[7:52] commercial building parking lot on
[7:53] either side uh buffering Landscaping to
[7:57] the north fairly straightforward access
[7:59] off of the private Drive um and there
[8:01] will not be access from Kenrick
[8:04] Avenue uh grading plan uh as you can see
[8:08] there's they are not getting into the
[8:11] existing uh burm and buffer to the north
[8:14] um which helps buffer the view to those
[8:16] Town Homes to the
[8:17] north uh this is the landscape plan they
[8:20] do have plantings along the parking lot
[8:23] uh the foundation of the building on the
[8:25] side additional plantings here and then
[8:27] here are some of the additional trees
[8:30] that they are adding just to help fill
[8:31] in some of those gaps uh for
[8:35] those um as has Camp showed the building
[8:37] elevations talked about the materials um
[8:40] they do meet the exterior material cor
[8:42] requirements with 65% brick and windows
[8:46] on the site which is the grade A
[8:49] materials uh and then this is just the
[8:51] floor plan for retail and then the
[8:55] wellness clinic
[8:56] there um I did have one other item I
[8:59] wanted to mention the site does not show
[9:03] um a trash enclosure at this point if
[9:06] they are going to have an exterior one
[9:07] they need to update the plans to include
[9:10] that information otherwise if it's being
[9:12] handled interior then no additional
[9:13] changes are needed um if the Planning
[9:16] Commission chooses to recommend approval
[9:19] of the preliminary plat for Kenrick
[9:21] Corner second edition and the easan
[9:23] vacation staff does recommend it be
[9:25] subject to the six stipulations listed
[9:27] in the December 13th report and I will
[9:29] stand for any questions you may have
[9:32] thank
[9:33] you and this is a public hearing so
[9:35] anyone wishing to speak on the public
[9:38] hearing can please come
[9:43] forward Madam chair yes motion to close
[9:46] the public hearing second all right I
[9:48] have a motion and a second to close the
[9:50] public hearing all those in favor of
[9:51] closing the hearing signify by saying I
[9:55] I I all opposed all right the public
[9:57] hearing is now closed uh fellow
[10:00] Commissioners any
[10:01] [Music]
[10:03] questions Madam chair yes um are there
[10:06] uh are there tenants identified yet of
[10:09] of either of these two
[10:14] spaces Madam chair members of the
[10:16] commission so I don't believe that uh
[10:19] the actual leases have been signed but
[10:21] there are two tenants that they are in
[10:23] discussion with um and so hopefully it
[10:25] will be fully occupied once constructed
[10:29] great thank
[10:33] you any
[10:35] additional
[10:40] comments Madam chair yes uh I motion to
[10:44] recommend approval of the Kenrick Corner
[10:46] second edition preliminary PL and
[10:48] easement vacation subject to the six
[10:50] stipulations listed on the December 13
[10:52] 2024 planning
[10:55] report second I have a motion and a
[10:58] second Miss Ericson we please take a
[10:59] roll call
[11:02] vote
[11:03] i
[11:05] i
[11:07] i i
[11:10] i all right thank you um good luck on
[11:14] your project and it looks like this one
[11:16] would go to City Council on January 21st
[11:19] that is correct thank
[11:21] you all right agenda item number six
[11:25] this is the city of Lakeville this is a
[11:26] public hearing to consider amendments to
[11:28] Title 11 zoning of the city
[11:31] code and we have Tina good evening um so
[11:36] during the summer we've did quite a few
[11:39] zoning updates and then we discovered a
[11:41] few more and then we also had a work
[11:42] session and talked um primarily about
[11:45] parking ordinance and some changes that
[11:46] we wanted to make that would better
[11:48] align market conditions or Market needs
[11:51] for parking for different uses so I'm
[11:53] just going to go quickly through the
[11:55] staff memo um you received that um the
[11:58] ordinances and in front of you um in
[12:00] your packet or on your device um again
[12:03] anything that is underlined is proposed
[12:05] as new text anything that is stricken
[12:07] out is proposed to be removed sometimes
[12:10] you'll see sections stried and then
[12:13] moved um for just realignment um so it's
[12:16] not always just new text um so just a
[12:19] quick summary um in the definition
[12:21] section we're proposing adding a
[12:23] definition for commercial recreation
[12:25] facilities as one does not exist and
[12:27] this is a use that specifically ly
[12:29] allowed um in certain industrial
[12:31] districts we're proposing adding it to
[12:33] another one and it is defin definitely
[12:36] definitely different than what you would
[12:37] think of as a commercial um Athletic
[12:39] Club like a lifetime so we wanted to
[12:41] make sure that definition was created
[12:44] then within the parking section which is
[12:45] the bulk of this update um we went
[12:47] through and identified certain uses and
[12:49] adjusted the parking accordingly um
[12:51] based on our own research um input from
[12:54] our um planning um consultant Dan lick
[12:58] um as well as just understanding what
[13:00] we're seeing in the market um what the
[13:03] demand has been um and trying to adjust
[13:05] to that coordinately so that's the bulk
[13:07] of the
[13:07] changes and then um we had some
[13:10] amendments to the sign code um we have
[13:13] some major Parks um and wonder
[13:15] facilities being created in the city of
[13:17] Lakeville and they have a need for
[13:18] additional signage both from just a
[13:21] standpoint of helping people get to and
[13:24] understand where these facilities are
[13:25] located but also for sponsorship reasons
[13:28] so we need a little bit bit more signage
[13:29] allowed um so specifically um we want to
[13:33] add freestanding signage um in the Grand
[13:36] Prairie Park as well as additional wall
[13:38] signage for the permanent Pavilion at
[13:41] the new uh the new permanent Pavilion at
[13:43] the H Arena as well as in the Grand
[13:46] Prairie um um Park so the Grand Prairie
[13:50] is looking for a second Monument sign
[13:53] there's one that will be located on
[13:55] Cedar Avenue and they are looking for a
[13:57] second one to be positioned on Hamburg
[13:58] Avenue
[13:59] um that one doesn't meet the letter of
[14:02] the law because it's not on a major
[14:05] collector or arterial street so we want
[14:07] to create an exception because it's a
[14:09] community park um we feel that kind of
[14:12] Park is deemed um is warranted really
[14:14] for having that additional signage and
[14:17] then additional wall signage is proposed
[14:19] again on um the new Pavilion and then on
[14:22] the Grand Prairie um grand stand so that
[14:26] new baseball grand stand so hopefully
[14:28] you've all seen I was looking for one
[14:30] today to throw up on the screen I didn't
[14:31] find one late this afternoon but
[14:33] hopefully you've all visualized that
[14:35] Park and there's a um major grand stand
[14:38] and on the South Wall of that they want
[14:39] to have the sign for that as well as the
[14:42] sponsorship so we believe all of that is
[14:44] reasonable and we made these exceptions
[14:47] specifically to community parks and the
[14:49] special use
[14:50] Parks then within the M2 mixed juice um
[14:54] Cedar Corridor District um we found a
[14:57] discrepancy um this ordinance allows for
[15:00] multif family with a conditional use and
[15:02] then it has certain standards one of
[15:03] which is a standard for um area the area
[15:08] requirement and so right now it reads at
[15:11] 1,675 Square ft um per unit which meets
[15:15] the low density for that range but the
[15:18] comp plan for this um zoning area or the
[15:22] land use that this zoning area falls
[15:24] under um stipulates between 26 and 40
[15:27] units so we need to address
[15:29] that range so we're proposing changing
[15:31] that 1675 to 1100 to meet the
[15:34] comprehensive
[15:36] plan um within the i1 light industrial
[15:39] conditional uses um we received a couple
[15:41] of inquiries to allow um limited outdoor
[15:45] storage for auto repair uses right now
[15:48] that use is allowed as a conditional use
[15:50] but all the vehicles have to be stored
[15:52] inside so the amendment includes quite a
[15:54] few conditions to really limit this but
[15:56] to allow some outdoor storage provided
[15:59] it's not visible from a principal
[16:02] arterial provided that it's not more
[16:04] than 20% or 10,000 square ft of the lot
[16:07] area screened and so forth so we think
[16:10] those are enough um conditions to allow
[16:14] that but on a very restricted basis in
[16:16] the i1 again as a conditional use and
[16:20] then in the I2 section for conditional
[16:22] uses we're proposing adding that
[16:24] commercial recreation facilities this is
[16:26] something that we allow as a conditional
[16:28] use in the i1 District we've received
[16:30] some inquiries in the I2 we've kind of
[16:33] held off but we do have some older
[16:35] buildings that could benefit from this
[16:36] change and so we're at asking to add
[16:39] that with the same standards that are in
[16:41] the i1 so both those districts have that
[16:44] flexibility and then finally in the
[16:46] administr in the I3 under administrative
[16:49] uses um the Mac has submitted building
[16:51] permit plans for a remodel for their
[16:55] Maintenance building so if you've not
[16:56] been to the airport um where the flight
[17:00] school is located there's a maintenance
[17:01] building the remodeling that and they
[17:03] need to create a sleeping quarter so we
[17:05] have snow events um the max staff is
[17:08] able to stay overnight and so that's
[17:10] technically not allowed currently in the
[17:12] ordinance so we need to add that
[17:14] provision to the ordinance so that about
[17:17] sums up what is included in this um
[17:20] again this kind of ends the 20204 zoning
[17:23] updates staff apologizes that it took so
[17:26] long but we've been quite busy in our
[17:28] office um we're need to get ready for
[17:30] the 2025 update um but if you have any
[17:33] questions I would be happy to answer
[17:35] them thank
[17:37] you and this is a public hearing so
[17:40] anyone wishing to speak on this agenda
[17:42] item can please come
[17:51] forward mam chair yes motion to close
[17:54] the public
[17:56] hearing second all right I have a motion
[17:58] in a second to close the public hearing
[18:00] all those in favor please say I I all
[18:03] opposed all right the public hearing is
[18:05] now
[18:07] closed H
[18:09] commissioner um good road uh just for
[18:12] the public can you kind of like outline
[18:15] what some examples of the commercial
[18:17] recreation facilities might be yes so
[18:20] some of the um we've received some um
[18:24] proposals for indoor playgrounds um
[18:26] indoor pickle ball courts um there could
[18:29] be an indoor any kind of indoor um
[18:32] training facility for um Sports so youth
[18:35] or adult um there's facilities across
[18:38] the cities that are geared solely to
[18:40] baseball or solely to hockey um so it's
[18:43] really focused around those kinds of
[18:46] uses and
[18:47] amenities great thank
[18:49] you just oh you continue well yeah um
[18:53] just I think that all these changes are
[18:56] great I'm supportive of them all um I am
[18:59] especially kind of excited about that
[19:00] one I hope that we do get more uh uh
[19:05] people wanting to come in and uh develop
[19:07] that stuff I know there's definitely a
[19:10] um desire amongst members of the
[19:12] community that I've talked to for more
[19:15] indoor options during the winter
[19:16] especially for for young children so
[19:19] thanks to the staff for all their work
[19:21] on
[19:24] this any additional questions comments
[19:28] that looks like we're ready for a
[19:31] motion make a motion to recommend
[19:34] approval of the amendments to Title 11
[19:36] of the zoning ordinance of the city
[19:40] code second I have a motion on a second
[19:43] Miss ericon we please take a roll call
[19:46] vote
[19:48] i
[19:49] i i i
[19:54] i and this goes to city council too
[19:57] right January 21st all right awesome all
[20:01] right agenda item number seven we have
[20:04] some very special guests with us tonight
[20:07] um we were not able to have the Planning
[20:09] Commission have an opportunity to
[20:11] celebrate the retirement of Frank
[20:12] Dempsey so he is here come on up Frank
[20:16] and we have
[20:19] um here um and we've asked Daryl to make
[20:23] some comments um on behalf of Staff in
[20:26] the city and then um welcome any of you
[20:29] to to make any comments that you would
[20:30] wish and then on your screen is a map
[20:34] that Chris um prepared along with our
[20:37] GIS team to represent all of the
[20:41] projects across the city that Frank
[20:44] touched um it's overwhelming the amount
[20:47] of impact that he's had on this city
[20:49] that we all love um I think Daryl can
[20:52] probably jump into this and explain this
[20:53] map a little bit more but um we are
[20:56] thrilled with um all the contributions
[20:59] that Frank um provided over his 35 plus
[21:02] years thank
[21:10] you
[21:13] oversight good evening uh it's good to
[21:16] be back not as a staff person but as a
[21:19] former staff person for the new uh
[21:22] Planning Commission member and I use the
[21:23] term new Loosely new to me uh I'm Daryl
[21:27] Mur I am the former planning director
[21:29] and I worked for the city for 35 years
[21:33] 30 of which were with Frank and so I
[21:36] just wanted to say a couple things I'm
[21:37] going to keep it short I'm sure all
[21:39] these folks over here will be glad to
[21:40] hear that but uh it was a pleasure
[21:44] working with Frank for all those years
[21:46] uh I thought of three words that
[21:49] described Frank during his tenure here
[21:52] uh on my way in and they are dedicated
[21:56] hardworking and patient especially
[21:59] patient Frank dealt with so many people
[22:03] that had problems or complaints or
[22:06] issues or didn't agree with the
[22:08] ordinance or didn't agree with staff and
[22:11] he was immensely patient with those
[22:13] folks and as his supervisor for all
[22:16] those years I am forever grateful for
[22:19] that he did a great job city is losing a
[22:22] lot of institutional knowledge with
[22:24] Frank uh retirement I know these guys
[22:27] can to ATT test attest to that as well
[22:30] so uh we worked together really hard I
[22:34] think what we did here I'm very proud of
[22:36] the work we did together and I'm sure
[22:38] Frank is as well uh we had a lot of
[22:41] hundreds of Planning Commission meetings
[22:43] public hearings the time when there was
[22:47] five or six public hearings on an agenda
[22:49] and it was basically just he and I
[22:51] making the staff reports and
[22:53] presentations and we survived it and I
[22:55] think the city has turned out really
[22:57] well so I'm very proud of the work we
[22:59] did I was very happy to work with Frank
[23:02] and even though I'm not his boss or a
[23:04] coworker anymore I'm still Frank's
[23:06] friend and I'm very happy for his
[23:08] retirement welld deserved thank you
[23:10] Frank
[23:14] [Applause]
[23:30] got it getting out of bed I'm serious
[23:32] and it happened yesterday but it goes
[23:35] away rather quick any I didn't expect
[23:37] this it's nice to see it you know this
[23:39] chance to to see everybody again and I
[23:43] really didn't maybe it's good that I
[23:44] didn't have any prep preparation to
[23:46] share my thoughts but Daryl kind of
[23:49] mentioned a little bit what My
[23:51] Philosophy was and I I do I always
[23:54] enjoyed and I guess I do take pride
[23:56] in working with in difficult situations
[24:00] with people that are difficult in terms
[24:03] of um have expectations or trying to
[24:06] understand how things are planned and
[24:08] this is a growing city it has been the
[24:10] whole time I've been here and I I always
[24:13] went out of my way to uh you educate
[24:16] people on what we do the purpose of the
[24:18] of planning and in today's you know
[24:21] epidemic world we live in with
[24:22] misinformation and how things are done
[24:25] and very strong opinions I always try to
[24:27] get people people to understand the role
[24:30] of things and I do take some pride in in
[24:33] um bringing people along um different
[24:36] parts of the city neighborhoods people
[24:37] that were willing to learn be involved
[24:40] and understand um and so that as darl
[24:44] always said we work for good outcomes
[24:45] and involving people not ignoring them
[24:48] not returning calls not returning emails
[24:50] was something that we never
[24:52] did um and I got to tell you when I've
[24:55] had dealings with other with other
[24:57] cities that's not all always the case
[24:59] you know sure we're always busy and
[25:00] they're busy too but we always made an
[25:02] effort to make sure people are heard
[25:04] your calls are returned and so that's I
[25:07] hope that's sort of the Legacy I left
[25:09] with the Department is um is is is
[25:13] making sure the public understood that
[25:15] we're working on their behalf and it's
[25:16] important that they're involved so
[25:20] anyway thank you it's been really nice
[25:22] working with everybody every one of you
[25:24] and I
[25:24] know planning Commissioners over the
[25:27] years through neighborhood interest
[25:30] situations land use questions projects
[25:33] building additions all that kind of
[25:34] thing that goes from the neighbor the
[25:36] the mayor on down you know the um
[25:39] different project they've worked on and
[25:41] I was like that never know what's going
[25:42] to happen when you walk in one day and
[25:44] what your job's
[25:45] gonna be dealing with thank you
[25:48] everybody
[25:52] [Applause]
[25:58] anyone
[26:07] else well I do um agree with the patient
[26:11] part I feel like you're always very
[26:12] patient with all of my questions and I
[26:14] really appreciate that
[26:16] so um sad that you're
[26:19] leaving sad that you left it's all
[26:23] changing I guess that happens um but I
[26:26] think that's it unless anyone has
[26:28] anything else they'd like to add no all
[26:31] right then the meeting is adjourned
[26:47] [Music]