oppose say nay. Okay, we have an agenda. Great. We have a new order for our business meetings starting in this new year. And so we are going to go immediately to the consent agenda. Items on the consent agenda are routine in nature and are generally enacted with a single motion. Any board member can remove an item for a separate vote though. So, do I have a mo a move to approve the consent agenda? I'll move approval. It's been moved by Director Bowman, seconded by So moved or second. Sorry. Okay. Director Hillbrand. Okay. Uh the consent agenda con contains uh funding transfer meeting minutes by monthly dispersements uh licensed personnel staff report non-licensed personnel staff report. So I do not see any hands up. This does require a roll call vote. So seeing no hands, I think we're ready to vote. Exactly. Director Basset, yes. Director Bowman votes yes. Chair Evans Becker, yes. Director Hillbrand, yes. Director Holmes, no. Director Long, no. Director Wuto, yes. And thank you. 52. 52. The consent agenda has been approved. Okay. We now we need to move on to unfinished business. Our unfinished business is a summary statement. After our last business meeting, we held a closed session pursuant to Minnesota statute to um evaluate the year-end evaluation for our superintendent. And so, as a result of that, I will be reading the summary statement from the superintendent evaluation. On Monday, June 16th, the Robbinsdale Area School Board met in close session pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.05, 05 subdivision 3A for the year-end superintendent evaluation. The board met for over three hours to discuss the br to discuss the rubric for the standardsbased superintendent evaluation and the performance of Dr. Stalo which was facilitated by Barb Dorne from the Minnesota schoolboards association. The majority of the board found that the work done by Dr. Terry Stalo, superintendent, was highly effective or effective in all areas. Because of this, a majority of the board voted to grant Dr. Stalo the full 10% of her salary as incentive as stated in her contract for meeting the goals that were set for her for the 2425 school year. We thank Dr. Stalo for her efforts and accomplishments and look forward to working with her on the challenges ahead in our district. Dr. Stalo. any comments? Sure. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Evans Becker and board members. Um, I think an important part of the evaluation process is reflection. Um, so I'd like to share an excerpt from the reflection that I attached to my evaluation materials when I submitted them to the board. As we end this first year together, I want you to know that I believe I have been an outstanding superintendent and leader for Robbinsdale Area Schools. I've burned into the fire and attacked multiple challenges in multiple departments and schools headon. I've been strategic and intentional in providing long-term and short-term solutions. I've communicated consistent consistently with transparency and focus. I have created systems that were needed and have done so in a collaborative manner. I provided optimism and joy clear while clearly stating facts and concerns. I've designed and facilitated the most robust community engagement process I've ever seen. I've built relationships with staff, students, parents, community members, organizations, partners, legislators, emergency responders, business owners, and police departments. Over the past 11 months, in spite of or perhaps because of the challenges that have been a part of my daily work life, it's important that you all as board members and this community know that I've fallen in love with Robbinsdale Area Schools. I made a promise when I said yes, and I will be relentless in my quest to help lead our district to excellence. The work is complex and intense and the problems I inherited will not be fixed overnight. However, I believe I provided evidence not just in my evaluation materials but in the work I have done daily that progress and improvement is being made. I want to thank the students, staff, families, community members, leaders and board members who have supported me throughout the challenges of the past year. I especially want to thank my team who have shown up day after day and are supporting and pushing to make me and all of us in Robbinsdale Area Schools better. I look forward to the year ahead. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, next on our agenda is new business. And the new business uh starts with an action item, a resolution accepting the June 2025 donations. I move approval. Second. It was moved by Director Basset, seconded by Director Bowman to approve the donations. There were over 5,000 uh dollars in donations that we got the district got in June. And since it's a it's money, it requires a roll call vote. So, it's been moved and seconded. Let's vote on accepting the donations. Great. Director Basset, yes. Director Bowman votes yes. Uh, Chair Evans Becker, yes. Director Hillenbrand, yes. Director Holmes, yes. Director Long, yes. Uh, Director Wuto, yes. We have a corn. It's unanimous. Thank you. Okay, we accept those those uh donations and thank you very much. All right, letter B, the 2526 calendar revisions. Um, Director O'Herd, are you speaking to us about this? Good evening, Chair Evans Becker, board members, um, Superintendent Dr. Stallow. Um, a memo was shared with you in regards to the two changes for the calendar for 2526. The first one is in regards to the compensatory day that would be changed from May 8th to June 4th. Um and and that the reason for that is because of AP testing. AP testing runs for three weeks. So it is the first week of May, the second week in May, and then the third week in May is makeup testing week. Those weeks are not designed by Rodensdale. Those are national weeks that we don't get to determine when those weeks fall. The second change is the professional development day and that date is changing from our recommendation is to change it from April 24th to May 1st and that is one week later to give us one more week of staffing time in case we want to use that date um as we bring staff together um from different schools as we are looking at staffing differently for next year. Okay. Um, Director Bass and then Director Hillbrand. So, um, uh, Director Amy, can you, um, kind of explain a little bit about the I guess a question first and so that is that the calendar committee still exists. Is that right? That is that is true. Okay. and the members of the count calendar committee or the way it works is can you just very briefly because we don't want to prolong it but can you just talk a little bit about that because this my I guess my underlying question is that this was something that went through the calendar committee correct the calendar committee is made up of teachers administrators directors um across the district and we meet um four times a year and we address not only the school calendar but then also various um athletics and activity the entire scope of the calendar for all schools. Um, so the calendar committee does a variety of different calendars as well. Well, that was my understanding. I just want to make sure that that hasn't changed. And then because I I've noticed that we have quite a few more. Historically, we haven't had as many calendar changes as we've had, you know, I mean, they come to the board, so I know. Uh, and so we it just seems like we have more. And so it looks like there's a little bit more change that's happening. I I don't know but uh it's more frequent and I think this year it is because of the AP testing and that those wind the window came out after the calendar came out so we didn't get that window um and so we have to change it because of that. So the calendar was out and then the national window came out. The second is because of our professional development schedule and wanting to adjust that date. Okay. And so in your opinion the calendar committee is still functioning quite well. Oh yes. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Um Director Helen Brand. Yeah. I've just I you know one thing I've noted about the calendar and I know for about five years now um community members especially I know the Jewish families group has been asking and all a lot of metro districts have been taken off Roshashana yum kipur Idal uh I'm going to pronounce it incorrectly fitter I think and I ala and that has not been taken into account in Robmsdale's calendars and I'm just curious why that hasn't been or and you don't have to answer that but just curious you know um we're kind of out of step with our community and just wanted to put that out there as something to consider and to keep in mind in future calendars because um it's pretty common now in the metro area that that we're keeping that in mind especially as we have more and more Muslim students as well as you know we have a you know Jewish community as part of our um district and for those kids they have to take those days off in order to celebrate their holidays or they have to choose between do I miss a test or do I go to or do I observe my holidays and that's not really a nice position to put students or and or teachers as well um in those positions. So just putting that out there publicly. I I hear you on that. Um in the last few years we have added Yamapour and Eid to um just one Eid though Eid Eid ala is um still a school day. Yeah. So, we do have more work. I appreciate that. We're halfway there. Yeah. Still have more work to do. I acknowledge that. Yes. Thank you, Dr. Holmes. Um I believe you were here for listening hour. We had a teacher come and speak about um teachers request not not finding the first choice of moving that date to the what is it this anyway? This to the after the end of school. June 4th. Thank you. June 4th. we're going through sixth and graduation and everything. Um, was there discussion around that? I know you're saying there are teachers on that committee and the RFT president is there, but how was that addressed and how was it pulled with the staff? So, the compensatory days, um, you need to have two in the first semester and two in the second semester. Um, one of the struggles that we have is that if when we're looking at the calendar and analyzing um number of hours of student contact, currently our seniors have an equivalent of 15 hours um that they are short of school of for the school year. So when we move the compensatory day to after the school year is over um that is taking um another day where they don't are not short an additional 6 hours and 10 minutes. So as we are looking at the calendar moving forward, we are analyzing every piece of the calendar um because we have an we have concerns around our student contact time currently and we need to do some adjustments for the 2627 calendar and look at when we I believe it was five years ago added three professional development days to the calendar and took away student contact days. We then took away those hours from instruction. We are now digging in. Thank you, Director Hohheisle. And finding that because of that, the seniors are short equivalent of 15 hours or almost two little over two school days. So, with with that being said and the comments that my colleagues have made, is there any reason we can't postpone this vote and have a more in-depth conversation with the board around holidays? And as you're analyzing that, is there any reason we would need to do this right now? Adding additional holidays for the 2526 school year. There are no more compensatory days to add the holidays to I'm sorry I'm not just so we can have a broad conversation because there are points and kind of moving forward and it sounds like if you are analyzing the calendar right now instead of to director Basset's point changing them and changing them and changing them. Is there any reason we can't have a broader discussion? And you said you're analyzing all of the dates right now and looking at more days for the seniors. So is there any reason that we need to do this immediately? I guess the analyzing the calendar is for 2627. So this one is for next school year which is you know seven weeks away. So that the analyzing the calendar is for the 2627 calendar. That's the one that we are going to be digging into and figuring out how to add back minutes to that calendar. So next year the seniors are okay with their time. They are still short 15. So it is still being addressed then. Assistant Superintendent McDonald, did you have your hand up? Mhm. So I I would say the just to add a couple layers of complexity to it. It the in the time frame that uh direct or that um executive director Warhern is talking about the state changed its requirements for seniors. It used to be that the the 1020 hours was for um through 11th grade. And so that's kind of why I think Robin Stale's in this conundrum right now of how do we write what's going on. So, uh, that's the first thing is in the midst of all those co years and everything, the legislature said now seniors have to have the 1020 along with the rest of the secondary. I would say that with 7 weeks before we start the school year is a little late to make any other additional changes to the calendar. Uh the last thing I would say is any changes that would be made would be extending the calendar into the summer for next year farther. That's the only way you get the hours back. Or you don't do spring break or you don't do as many days over winter break. You you pre-labor day start you start earlier. Um so I think uh Director Holmes, the answer to the question is you could you could probably do anything. Um, anything that you change to the calendar is probably going to end up with additional people up at the board because the changes we're going to make are going to upset the apple cart for for a different group for a different reason. I understand that. Thank you. I I do. I just it seems like we're piecing this together and I don't the board's made aware of this after the fact. I don't I don't like hearing from a staff member that other teachers are not appreciative of this date change um and and having ample reasons and then we just get a a memo that doesn't have a lot of substance behind it or the the history that you all were just talking about. I think those are things that the board should be made aware of before we're voting on items. I think that gives us background information. It also speaks to the public about the complexities of the calendar and everything we are juggling. So then it's preventative and we don't get as many people coming to us and saying you didn't do you didn't do because we haven't we haven't. So that's my expectation. I would move that we postpone this vote until we can have a conversation as a board. I am motioning to I move to postpone this vote. I do second. Was there motion on the table? Was there already motion on the table? A motion already on the table. Director Holmes moved. No, we didn't have a motion on the table already to accept just for So, Director Holmes moved to Did you Did you have a time limit on that? I'm open to flexibility from the board, but I think it's something the board needs to have a conversation with administration on. So, I don't I'm not privy to the agenda setting calendar. So, you just voted to postpone it? Yes. to postpone. If it's more palatable, I'll accept that as well. If you'd want to put it at our next meeting, that can uh you know, we can have it um the discussion, but the discussion needs to be had. I guess my my question that I had raised my hand for after I seconded that motion um was just I want to know what what are the consequences that our district can have from MDE for our seniors being short their time in a school year and I think that needs to be something to discuss along with the calendar the um what ends up happening is the any of the seniors who qualify for compensatory dollars, then you can be you can have those compensatory dollars held back from you as a district. As a district. So, it's it's a it's significant that we get this fixed um and uh and work towards getting it where it needs to be. Um, that said, honestly, I I I don't know how many seniors in the in a graduating class at this point are fall into that category and what that total dollar amount would be um moving forward. But that that's how the process is structured to work. Director Basset, so um are you talking about this next class coming in? we already know that we're short or the class that just graduated and then both. And then um when did that law change so that those hours became in question? I would be totally guessing. I think it was 18 or 19, but I can look it up for you. That long ago, I believe so. I'm not positive on that. Well, I I would concur with Dr. McDow in that I'm a I at least recall that these hours back in 18 and 19. It could I don't know when it changed before that but I know these are the hours that existed that have existed since then. Okay. So the slippage or the deficit that our students are facing now if it was in 2018 or 2020 or before then this is not the first class that this is affected. That that would be my I yes I know the 20 class graduating class of 25 did not meet their hours and it sounds like from director O'Harn you were saying that this has been there this has happened before. Correct. So when we put the three additional days of professional development in in 2021 it would have adjusted those hours. Thank you, Director Henbrand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this adjustment can also be made by adding hours to the school day equivalent to 15 hours. So, it could be by adding 10 minutes to the school day. So, there are other ways to do it than adding days to the calendar as well. Correct. That is correct. However, I'm sorry. I know that would mess up. It doesn't it doesn't align with the uh teacher contract and busing and without adding staff. Yes. All right. I was just trying to be creative. Sorry. I appreciate that. Well, I think um to to director Hill Brandt's point and director Holmes's point, I do think that a conversation, in fact, I think when this was raised, I think I I attended agenda setting and I think I raised the questions that our board members need to be educated about is even what is the calendar committee and how's this work. So, uh I do think a deeper conversation about the calendar and the committee and then what are the remedies and I really appreciate your comments uh assistency. I have to think about your your total um but I really appreciate your comments and and actually all three of you uh because I do think that it's important that the board understand this and that we come up with a solution that works and I'm we're looking to you to kind of help talk about what those might be. Um but it sounds like there's some experience on this board to even kind of talk about some of that. So, so we have a we have a motion on the floor to postpone the decision on the calendar revision. Superintendent, I think assistant superintendent had a comment and then I have a comment. Okay. Okay. I would just caution the board this late in the game of not approving a calendar. I mean, the board has and I'm not suggesting that the board doesn't have the I I've done it long enough. You absolutely have the ability to do that. At this late in the game, there is I would make an argument there is not enough time for us as an administration to be able to explain to the level that you will be comfortable all of the nuances around the calendar in 7 weeks with the limited time we have in conversation for you to be in any better spot than now. I understand completely the the what's been shared. I don't disagree with you. It's why it's like, okay, we've got to get this fixed and reorganized. That I absolutely agree with. But between teacher contracts, other contracts, hourly requirements, everything that's going on, I I don't know how we would I would be I would be very cautious about expecting that we would be able to get it to a spot where for these two days in this in this year, you would be feeling that much better about it if you're not feeling good about it right now. And our our parents need to know the calendar. Thank you. Those were the two comments I was going to share is the families, you know, that's one thing families always ask for calendars to get out as quickly as they can so that people can plan their lives around that. So I would have the same concern with that. And the second thing is just a reminder that we do have a calendar committee. So while as administrators we bring forward a recommendation to the board, it's the committee recommendation that we're bringing forward as well. Uh director Bowman and then director. Uh thank you. Um the setting of the calendar is actually an administrative function. It is not a function of the board. And it to me it's counter productive and counterintuitive to think that we as a board are going to discuss calendar issues to fix them when we have no expertise. Excuse me for those of you who are in public education. there's a huge difference in some of you who are in it and some of you who are in leadership in it. So, um this is a function of the administration. We have a lot of things in this district that are in that are on uh in route, if you will, uh to be fixed and this is one of them. And there is many more important things for this board to be working on rather than and and no offense to our resident who spoke to us on this, but rather than a a a conversation that happens quickly uh with the intent that we're going to pull together all kinds of things, but I never know if we've pulled together all kinds of things. And because of that, I need to rely on this administration to do their job. that is their expertise and I don't it's a waste of time in my mind if we think we are going to find the fix. We have fixes that we need to take place on this board that we haven't tackled. So I would appreciate it if we could allow the administration to do their job. If you don't support it, you don't support it. That's okay. That's the right of the vote. But uh let's let our administration do the job and stop trying to second guessess is is my opinion on this. Dr. Basset. Um well um I guess I would say that um to the point of how urgent is this? I think that was your first question was how urgent is this to do that and and I and I kind of raised that again to make sure I heard that right because then what I would say is I think a time certain no later than the next board, you know, soon that we should be discussing it as soon as possible if we're going to have a discussion. And I guess my my my focus really is on the potential harm to students and to us not getting compensatory aid. Okay. If we're if we have not figured it out yet and that was in 2021, I'm thinking systems in the 22 23 24 25. If we haven't figured it out in this and then it's not pjorative, but I'm just saying that is a policy question as far as I am concerned. So I can have confidence that everything that we're doing all the things we should be doing. And so the fact that we're having this conversation right here tells me that I I have not known because I asked that question in the in the agenda setting, you know, I didn't have all this detail because we didn't have a conversation about it. I didn't I was letting the administration I mean I was like okay, you know, um but as this is coming forward, I didn't understand the implications of compensatory aid or any of those kinds of things. The board has a responsibility to know. And so to that end, the things that the board should know, I want to know. And because I had full confidence, my only question was, is it is the calendar committee still meeting? I mean, because I had confidence in that system. If the system has, you know, is changed or been tweaking, I don't know. But a conversation that will allow us to kind of understand it would be helpful to all board directors. You know, what gets attention gets placed on gets fixed. Um, uh, Director Holmes, Director Long, I have something to say. And Director Helen Brand, did you have your hand up, too? Okay, Director Holmes, I would accept a friendly amendment to put it for our next meeting if that's the direction you were going. Just to give you a heads up on that one. Um, I think a conversation is important regardless of the time. I am a parent in this district. I have four students, so I I completely agree that parents want to know the calendars. And as we had a staff member speak, they want to know and we're coming into negotiations on all of these contracts. So, I think staff morale is top of mind for me. Um, you know, Director Helenbrand brought up other things. I'm not proposing we're going to change those, but just an all-encompassing conversation about the calendar. It shouldn't be um that contentious. I the amount of questions and conversation we're having here um I think is evident enough to me that we should have had the conversation and that there are enough of us and I don't think it's disregarding anybody's authority here. I think it's a conversation with the board and um we can agree or disagree on what our role is here, but we it is up to the board right now as a vote. And so it's a simple motion to have a conversation um with more background information when it was identified because director Basset is, you know, I mean to have it be going on since 2018 or 2019 is alarming. I also have a senior who graduated last, not this school year, last year. So that's another parent parental concern of mine um that we didn't have that intact. So I think it's okay for a board to have a conversation and I don't think we should run from it. Um so if director Basset or somebody else friendly amendment to postpone this until our next board meeting, I'm open to that. Thank you. You were the secondary. Do you support that? Yes, I support the friendly amendment. Um, Director Homebrand. Um, I just wanted to say that, you know, first of all, I appreciate what you're saying. I did get a little bit in the weeds there, but I am concerned especially with in this time with federal funds being taken away and frozen and all the, you know, all these other financial on top of the fact that, you know, we have financial straits going on right now of money being left on the table, right? I mean that that is a concern and any we need funds for our students and that is that is where my concern lies. Um otherwise I'd be happy to vote and say sure we can fix these other concerns in the future but I am concerned about leaving money on the table that could be used to support our students. So that's why I' I'd like to post I would agree with the postponing um and hopefully having discussion to see if we can figure out a way without huge disruption to to solve this for this coming year. So that's my two cents. Director Long, Director Bowman, and then me. I I guess I also worry working in the educational field and I have seen this happen with other students that if you don't have your certain amount of hours in that I have seen other students have to come back the next year and complete those hours. So I'm worried of what impact this might have with our students. Could you imagine having to tell our senior classes that they have to come back and complete whatever it is those hours that were not completed? That's that would be horrible. And what would that look like? And what would that do to our budget? I just am really worried about this and that we haven't fixed it yet. And I feel like then we need to get on board and get it fixed. I'm worried about the transparency and our fiduciary responsibility to this issue. And I want to p postpone this so that we can truly be transparent and know what this issue is and and possible solutions to fix it and what ramifications will this mean from the department of education for our district. And I don't know if that means that I as a school board member need to call and have a conversation with them or if that's something that leadership is willing to call and have conversations with them about. Dr. Hisel, I'm completely willing to call and have a conversation about it. That that is my job. So, I'm totally okay with that. Um, as I'm thinking about the conversation with the school board, it's actually twofold. Um, you do have two grade levels that aren't that don't have to meet you have two standards uh by Minnesota state statute. One is number of days in attendance which is 165 does not apply to kindergarten and does not apply to seniors. So the number of days our seniors are actually attending class gets thrown out if you will. However, what does apply to every grade level and it varies depending on the grade level is the number of hours of which a a student must be in attendance. Um the primary grades, the elementary grades are less hours than our secondary grades. Our secondary grades are,20 hours, as Dr. McDow referred to. Um from what I can tell in Robbinsdale would be my first experience. From what I can tell when I came on and saw that our senior class was low, I can't see an impact, but I don't know that there hasn't been one, nor can I declare that there won't be one. I have zero problem making that call. The challenge comes in is and snow days will I mean we could very easily be back at the table having conversation about snow days because our hours are getting limited with others. So it's a relatively robust conversation. The challenge lies is with everything else that's happening for 2526 as Dr. McDow, Dr. Stalo have indicated is we do have you know food service, we have employment contracts everywhere. We have um you know families making plans. We have all of that. I am just going to say we are we are late and so I I completely understand I recognize that you guys understand that it is your decision to make. We will provide whatever ma information you need. Again I don't know the financial experience because I haven't been in a district where that's been a possibility. I am also not aware of my counterparts saying hey this happened to us. Um maybe it hasn't maybe others. it it's it's a statute that just is a may and not a must. I I don't have that answer. Um but that is what I know to be true as it relates to our situation. Director Bowman. Okay. I think we have three issues going on up here. What is listed in our agenda item as compensatory day and the professional development day and now we're talking about senior hours. And so that's that's not even on this agenda at this point. I I am grateful that it's been brought to our attention, but that sort of clouds the issue of what we're going to be voting on. Um because contrary to what's been said, I'm not running from this. It's just that tonight is not that's not even on the agenda, the stuff with the uh shortened hours for seniors, that is a whole another different discussion. And the Excuse me. I just talked about order. Thank you. Okay. Um what I'm saying is that is not sure the 2526 district calendar revision item that's on our agenda logistic realistically. So uh the the item that I'm talking about are the two calendar items of the professional development and the compensatory day. I'm not talking about the hours for the seniors. Um, I'm not running from it. Uh, uh, to imply that anybody is running from that is rather disheartening for the rest of us and rather an unfair statement for you to make about us in a derogatory way. I do not make derogatory statements about things that you say at the table. So please, and the other part of it is that when I'm told now that we have a now that we have a motion on the table for an item that I'm still kind of not clear about, when we talk I say that the job belongs to the administration and yet I hear things like uh an all-encompassing discussion about what about the compensatory days and the two professional days or is that a whole another discussion that needs to go on to the agenda item so Uh I would Yes. Thank you. Okay. We're just vote we're just going to be voting on the um two calendar revisions. And the motion that's on the floor is to postpone it for two weeks. I will be voting against it because I have confidence in the calendar committee and the work that they did and all the research that they did to get us to this point. Um, other things need to be talked about and figured out and I have confidence also. You you'll get to that and you'll figure it out. But for now, um, if there's no more discussion, did you say somebody else needed assistant superintendent? What just came to mind is you already have an approved calendar. You've already approved the calendar. So, right now there's a calendar for 2526 in. So the the question at the table for the board really is do you want to take up adjusting these two days from the calendar not the totality of the calendar itself because the calendar for 2526 has already been approved as is. These would be two amended days to the board's already approved calendar for 2526. Thank you. That's an excellent clarification Dr. Holmes. That is why I stated that and there are other issues that are examining. I didn't bring up the senior hours to be quite frank. I didn't even know that was a problem until now. I think that is part of the the problem that I am struggling with. This was identified and instead of having it brought forward to the board, we're finding out this, but then there's something else that wasn't something a board member identified. Now it's opening up other things and to hear that that has been going on for so long. That's why I knew we had a calendar instead of that's the urgency of these two items. It's not massive changes. So that is what opens the dooration about the calendar and director Basset alluded to that we have had last calendar year multiple amendments and I think the goal is to stop that so we can have some consistency and faith in what we are okay I don't see any more hands up and before I see any more hands up we are going to vote so what we are going to be voting on is to postpone the decision on the calendar revisions till the next meeting. All in favor of postponing this until the next meeting, please say I. I. Oppose, say nay. Nay. Okay, we're going to need a roll call on that one. All right. Uh, Director Basset, Director Bowman votes no. Chair Evans Becker, no. Director Hillbrand, no. Director Holmes, yes. Director Long, yes. Director Wuto, no. Or three. Okay, so that means that motion failed. Do I have a motion to approve the calendar res revisions? So moved. Moved by Director Bowman. Second. Seconded by director. I don't see any more hands up. Let's take a vote on that one. I will. Okay. So now, uh, the motion is to approve the district recommended calendar revisions for 2025. That's those two days. That's all in favor, please say I. I. Opposed, please say nay. Nay. No. Um I'm calling that motion carried unless somebody wants roll call vote on it. Motion carried. Okay. So the district calendar revisions have been approved. The next item on the agenda is uh level three custodial grievance and uh executive director oh you're up again. Thank you. So in front of you is a memo a followup from last um two weeks ago. You received a memo from me also in regards to a grievance. This is a separate grievance memo. Same employee. The last grievance was filed in regards to a written reprimand. This grievance is filed in regards to a suspension without pay. So they are separate grievances. That's why there are two separate memos. I will state that the union has come forward already and asked that we um strike for arbitration because you have pushed the first one to an arbitrator and they are asking that we um would go to arbitration simultaneously with both um grievances instead of going to arbitration twice. And so we are working with our legal counsel if that is what you wish to go to arbitration only once for the same employee unless you would like to hear a hearing on the suspension without pay but send the written reprimand to an arbitrator. Thank you. The only question I had was why was the word strike in there? Um so what they do is they send us um a list of arbitrators and then between the union and the district we strike the arbitrators until we can agree on an arbitrator. Thank you. That clarifies that hopefully. Okay. So the recommendation is that in the event that the board receives a level three custodial grievance that the board foregoes holding a hearing and refers the matter onto arbitration. And so that would not only be for this one, but for you already sent the first one on to the arbitrator for the written reprimand. So this is a separate grievance and it's only for this particular grievance. It's not for all for future grievance. Correct. Okay. Dr. Holmes, I'm sorry. Did you asked if we needed a motion? Go ahead. Can you restate the the union is requesting or it's your recommendation that we move forward to pushing this to one arbitration? They had already emailed me and asked if you when when they received the response on the written reprimand to be sent to an arbitrator and they knew that the grievance was coming forward for the 3-day suspension. They said, "Would the district agree to go to arbitration only one time instead of going to arbitration twice?" And I said, "We would, but we have to hear from the board first on whether or not they're going to want to hear a hearing or they're going to want to send this on to an arbitrator." So, I guess that's where my confusion is because the board has gotten that email and they're they were asking the board for the hearing. So, where are they saying if if this is an afterthought because I feel like we're blurring the lines because the email we had received I thought was asking for a meeting with the board. Yep. And that's standard practice is they'll send a grievance to say I understand because we've been through this multiple times now. Yep. So, are they pulling that email back and saying they're just going to go or I don't know about pulling the email back. I'm just telling you what I know. So when he sent me the email setting up the arbitrator for the written reprimand, he asked, "Would you agree to go to arbitration once because it's the same employee." So instead of going to arbitration twice and having double the fees. And I guess what's just not clear for me is if that's already anticipating how this vote is going to go based on what it's done before. And that's where the blurring is. So, okay. I [Music] can we get a motion to I'll move approval. So, you're moving to forego the hearing and refer the matter to arbitration. Exactly. There is second to forego the hearing and and go to arbitration. Second. Uh, Director W second. Okay. And we can have discussion now. We can have discussion if you have f hands up. Director Long. Yeah. I guess I would just like to know when the transparency is going to come around these grievances for the board so that we can know what is happening, what's going on, where is the process in this. Also, is there an audit being done of that program to see what is going on there and why we're having so many issues in this department? Uh, I don't see any other hands up. I see director Holmes. Do will I get an answer to that question or in sometime in the future or? I believe some of what you are asking I believe came in a response that we answered from last week in what was how the how the questions are coming forward, who is bringing the concerns forward and um how the concerns are coming to the supervisors of the department and then how the supervisors are responding to those concerns. And I believe that memo came out to you. Um, was that the confidential memo from council? I believe was from Dr. Stallow's um about where concerns were coming. Yeah. I think you know at the end of the day um I think anytime there's change and there's a higher level of expectation that has been placed on people um I would offer a consideration for that. You know, I've been talking since the day I got here about excellence, and I think that um I've heard from board members at this table concerns about people being held accountable. And I I think that that could be part of what's happening is that there's a level of expectation around our facilities and the health and safety needs of our students in those. and if um if standards aren't being met, there is due process for employees. Um so I would just caution the board on um you know, obviously there are things you can't know about employees and there's processes that that we work through and um I think there's a other perspectives that maybe you're not hearing. So, um, can we get another emailed response about the questions that I just asked because I just feel like the answers was possibilities and not truly what might be going on. I don't know that there's an easy answer. I think every situation is different. I would say exactly what I said just said. I think the level of expectation of employees is at a level that I would expect and leaders in that department expect and I believe it's perhaps a change from where the expectation and accountability has been in the past. Well, that still just left me with possibilities. I believe that I've said as much as I can given data practices. So, can we have a followup, please? I I would need if you could answer specifically what your question is in writing and then see how I can respond to that with again not violating any kind of data practices. I would be happy to do so. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Dr. Holmes. I think for me it's just it's it's the said other perspectives we're not hearing. That's what I'm I'm what we are hearing are union members coming and speaking in force at listening hour and emails that are coming. So if there are these levels of expectations, what is that? What is what is the change? What what has been so drastic? Because we heard from the union say for 15 or 20 years. So things haven't been working for 15 or 20 years. And I like that's what we're saying to people now. And then we've also had individuals say that they have a disability that's not being recognized. And I believe some of the griev grievances resulted in the employees coming back to work. So I think it's an all-encompassing conversation of trying to really process the entire thing. And so I am more than willing to hear other perspectives that I'm not aware of. That's that that's our job, right? To hear all of the perspectives and then make a recommendation. But if I'm just or make a vote, I'm sorry, but if I'm just voting on this memo and then everything else that has been shared, I I it it doesn't feel like it's a rounded out conversation. And I think this becomes a performative vote because there is a lot of push back coming to the board. And I'm just still not comfortable with the explanation of what has changed because we also had a speaker come and say he observed everything and there was nothing about neglect in the buildings. And I I it just it's not making sense to me. The dot dots are not connecting. Um, and while we we don't oversee those managers or those employees that are running that department, we do work through you and how that is about change is. Yeah. And and I appreciate that, Director Holmes. I think we have an excellent leaders in a department that I identified pretty quickly some of the needs in our facilities and I think we are moving exactly in a direction of ensuring that um that our buildings are safe and healthy places for our students. I think uh CFO you were going to add something. Yeah, I thank you. I can completely recognize that Director Holmes and and quite honestly even the school board what you're your point right your your perspective or your experience is what is in front of you and what I would say and and the challenge is until you work until you see it until you know it you don't know you don't see um that that the person who toured the buildings shouldn't even have been walking around the buildings and um you know that the things we find and we don't I understand a particular grievance or multiple grievances are about singular people. I do believe the standard the training um what is happening is significantly stronger than what it was a year ago. I believe that um if that requires testimony of building leaders or others to help maybe round out the vision, we'd be happy to bring different perspectives in because you're right, people tend to speak not necess like the room doesn't get filled with positives typically. I mean, you guys know that it gets filled with people who are unhappy or or or a a louder voice. And so I would say my experience is the expectation is is to actually follow a standard of cleanliness. You know, all the things that we do. I I'm sorry. I I I need to cl I'm not arguing that point at all. Yeah. I understand the 30,000 foot perspective here. That's not the goal. I don't even know what we're changing in terms of that measurement though because we also had the experts the SEIU here saying the maintenance square footage wise that they're responsible for is more than their counterparts in other districts. So there's conflicting information for me and so it's not about it's not I'm not concerned about people coming and expressing their concerns. That's not where I'm going. I'm saying where is the dialogue with the board? Because if these are drastic changes coming about, it's not just about hitting the working class. You know, we've had them speak saying, "Where is our training? Where is the corrective action plan?" Those are things that are contractually required as well. And so, I just feel like we're in this back and forth angry cycle and that's not what I want when I envision excellence for our district. I 1,000% agree with you. I'm happy to provide the amount of training, the surveys that people have taken saying no more training is required and yet there's others that are coming and saying we haven't seen enough. Like all of that is documented. I have a binder about that thick that says otherwise. Again, I agree with you. Like we want a such strong culture. We want a supportive climate. We want all of that. The question is is what is needed and and where can we go with it as it relates to um truly just expectations of of a job and so you have a rounded out understanding that I I completely understand what you're saying. I'm saying I have data to support. I would like to get us back to talking about this particular motion that we have. There's a motion on the floor to move not the hearing to an uh arbitration. Move it the hearing on to arbitration. And so I would like to keep our discussion focused on whether or not we're moving it to arbitration. So if there's no more comments about whether or not we're moving it to arbitration, I would like to have a vote. I see no more hands up. Therefore, all in favor of moving this um to arbitration, please say I. I. I. Oppos say nay. No. No. Okay. We are moving it on to arbitration and we can have a discussion about maintenance another time. Okay. Number seven is policy. We have the second read on some policies and is there a spokesperson from the policy committee? That is the second read. We are not unfamiliar with these. Yep. These are all um all three are uh relate to financials and were um first reviewed by the financial advisory uh council and then by the policy committee um and they're all based on legislative um changes or um MSBA um suggestion uh uh sorry sample policies and they appear to be pretty minor changes. They're not substantial changes either. They're all they're all very minor changes. Okay. Director Holmes, I also want to make note that I've resigned from the policy committee and I've asked for a conversation around the policy committee itself. Thank you and thank you for your work on the policy committee. All right. Um I have quick clarification question. Do we vote on each one of those separately? We haven't. Okay. So it would a motion. So, we would need a motion to approve 701, 702, and 706. Director Long, just to uh go back to Director Holmes's comments. There have been uh as the vice chair, I've seen repeated emails to have conversation about the policy committee and so I'm hoping that that happens soon because otherwise it feels like we are continuing to ignore an issue um that is being requested. Thank you. Jesus Christ. Director Basset. Well, um, one of the, um, benefits of having seven directors and then having our committees and having several directors volunteer get appointed to committees is that then, uh, if you're on another committee, then you kind of see that you don't have to be all over the place. So I'm I'm troubled to hear that there's some challenges policy committee and different times different things have come up but the but the fact is is that I've kind of gone along with policy many of this there was a specific policy that question about so I'm um that in a quandry that kind of leaves me in a bit of a quandry because if I hear that if we have these policies that we're going to approve and there have been challenges on the committee itself that have been expressed and I I I don't understand. Okay, that would be two separate issues though. Yeah, I I re I realize that they are but anytime a subject comes up I'm going to speak to the subject. the subject at hand is passing policies and typically I feel like that if the policy committee has vetted them unless I have a specific about a policy and I raise it right here at this question or I send an email then um I guess want to feel like there's I can have confidence that the committee's doing the doing the work. Thank you. That's that's my comment and I think it's very appropriate right now for me to make it. It's not out in left field. So that's my comment and don't need a rebuttal. That's And yeah, since you were saying that, would you like to move approval of these policies? I'm sorry. Pardon me. Since you were saying that, were you going to be moving approval of these policies? Um, I did not raise my hand in that. I raised my hand to make my comment. Would you Oh, that you're just supporting it. Thank you. Well, I mean, I'm just I will I will um Are you recognizing me? Coleman. The committee itself recommended that these policies come forward. There was no disscent in the committee about the language in these policies. It was unanimous by the committee members that since the information in these policies is regulatory by nature or came by MSBA and it is not anything that any one board member has slipped in. Uh the entire policy committee agreed that these policies since they were vetted by our FAC that these policies were ready to come forward. And with that, I will move approval of the policies. And is there a second? I'll second. Moved by Director Bowman, seconded by Director Hill and Brand. And I don't see any hands up at the moment. And so, all in favor of approving these three policies, please say I. I. Post say nay. No. Okay, we have approved three policies and we can move on to administrative reports. Superintendent Stalin. Thank you and good evening, Chair Vince Becker and school board directors. Tonight begins a new meeting schedule and agenda flow. Uh as uh you already heard a bit about listening session is moved to 6:00 p.m. on the night of the first meeting of the month as we did earlier this evening with a longer business meeting to follow. We'll then schedule a brief business meeting on the second meeting of the month followed by a longer board study session. Um, as we work forward this fall with the re-imagine Ardale vision team recommendations, uh, statutory operating plan, um, or statutory operating debt plan and the, uh, the probability of closing of schools, we may find that we need to add additional study sessions. Um, and just as the board has always been able to call additional meetings, if that's needed to do the work, we will make sure that that happens. Our current practice is is that the land acknowledgement is read at the first presentation of the meeting. So tonight that means I have the privilege of sharing our land acknowledgement. We acknowledge Robbinsdale Area Schools is located on the homelands of the Dakota and Oji way people. We recognize the painful history of genocide and forced assimilation of the indigenous inhabitants of this land. We honor and respect the many indigenous peoples who live on and hold sacred these lands. And we stand with members of these nations to fight injustice in all of its forms. We uphold the preservation of Dakota and Ajiway languages, land-based education, and tribal sovereignty. At Robbinsdale Area Schools, our mission is to inspire and educate all learners to develop their unique potential and to positively contribute to their community. Our collective work is focused on this mission. And tonight I'd like to share some of the work in be in which we've been engaged in the strategic priority theme of academic achievement. We're thrilled to share that Armstrong High School senior Maren Faustst has been named a recip recipient of the national merit Grenell College scholarship. This is a tremendous academic honor. Marren was selected by Grenell from a national pool of merit finalists who plan to attend the college. Mir plans to study astrophysics a challenging and inspiring field. joins a distinguished group of more than 6,900 seniors from across the country who earned national merit scholarships in 2025, representing nearly 26 million in collective support. We're proud of Marin's hard work and academic achievement, and we wish her all the best as she continues her journey at Grenell College. In the strategic theme of student engagement and well-being, on July 4th, the Cooper High School Fighting Hawks marching band performed in the National Independence Day Parade in Washington DC. This is the official and largest Fourth of July parade in the country. The parade route took them past some of the most iconic sites in our nation, the Washington Monument, the White House, National World War II Memorial, and several of the museums. Cooper was nominated by US Representative Omar and we're proud that Robinsdale Area Schools was represented so meaningfully on a national platform. The opportunity was the result of months actually you can go back one Molly. Thanks. The opportunity was the result of months of intense practice and dedication by our students, staff and families. Congratulations to director Marcus Han and the entire band for an outstanding performance and for representing our community with such pride and excellence. In the strategic theme of collaboration and partnerships, each summer we use this time when schools are less occupied to take care of critical building maintenance as part of our long-term facilities plan. This work reflects our commitment to stewardship, ensuring that the investments our taxpayers make in our buildings are protected and extended through proactive care and planning. You may have noticed crews working on the roofs at Robbinsdale Spanish Immersion School in Cooper High School. These projects include roofing repairs and our key a key part to our efforts to keep our learning environments safe, secure, and ready for the school year. In the strategic theme of community engagement, we're excited to invite everyone to the Great Ardell Get Together, our annual back to school community celebration. This year's event will take place on Saturday, August 9th from 10:00 to 2:00 at Lake View Terrace Park in Robbinsdale. It's a free event for all ages with fun activities, entertainment, and a chance to connect with families, staff, and community partners. We hope to see many of you there as we come together to kick off a new year with joy and community spirit. Uh, as I end my report, one final note that I didn't get a chance uh happened this morning. and I didn't get a chance to get in the report was at Freedom Schools this morning. We had a very special guest reader, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanigan uh was there reading with the students and taking part in uh Harami. Um so you know the energy those of you that have had the chance to be at Freedom School. So it was uh fantastic. Thank you. Enjoying it. Thank you. Okay. Uh let's move on to the legislative report with um Christian Ho, director, chief financial officer. Well, there you are, Hohisel and superintendent. Yes. And I'm saying very little other than we all know that it was a a long session with lots of back and forth and uh uh CFO Heisel is going to just give us uh some of the uh summary and impact as we move forward. So, thank you. Good evening. officially chair Evans Becker, uh, schoolboard members, uh, and Dr. Stalo. Tonight, I just wanted to touch on briefly the, uh, 2025 legislative update. When I say briefly, it is not meant to be all-incclusive or comprehensive as it relates to the state of Minnesota, potential policy changes, all of that. Just kind of a very highlighted version of some items that could impact our school district moving forward. uh finance big picture when looking at this uh no new general ed dollars for fiscal year 26 and 27. What that means is and it moves into the next bullet point is there was language um that had happened in a prior legislative session that put an inflation factor on our uh basic formula on our general education formula. And why it says there is no new money is we had already anticipated that 2.74 which is what is listed. That's what the state came out with. There was conversation about does that go away. Um they did not take it away. So that's why we still anticipate an increase as we move into um and I'll say next school year because I forget that we're in July now. So we're in the 2526 school year. As we move into 2627 school year, there's still that inflationary factor that's tied. That did not get removed. We will see that on the formula. I would say the range for that dollar amount depending on the 2 to 3% and the number of students. We're probably looking at 1.6 million to 2.5 million. That's the impact to us. It helps fortunately for us offset some of our declining enrollment as far as additional revenue that we get into the district. Um, special ed transportation reimbursement. What has happened is this used to be uh, special ed transportation was reimbursed at 100%. So for every $10 we spent, we would receive that back in state aid. It could be a buck. I mean, pick whatever the dollar amount is. We're no longer at 100%. Moving into this year, we're at a 95% um, reimbursement rate. Based on past numbers, we run about $8 million in special ed transportation, give or take. Um, that would equate 5% is approximately again 385,000 to 405 depending on $45,000. So, as we move into this year, that's actually going to be a reduction for us. We planned 100%. uh as we move into the revised budget that will be reflected that we will have again a 385 to 405ish loss best estimate at this time. As we move into the next school year, as we move into 2627, we go from the 95% reimbursement, which is the 5% loss, to a 90% reimbursement, which is 10% loss, which means it compounds itself, right? So, if we had a $400,000 loss this year, that means next year it's going to be an $800,000 loss. as we as we work our way through the budgets. School unemployment aid. This was um implemented I think last legislative session, maybe two removed now, where um unemployment became available for people who don't typically work the summer months. Um I I think of like a a food service worker would be a a standard example that you could use. Um the state put this into play. They had given money that was um set to expire um which would then fall on the backs of the school districts. They decided to um adjust some other funding mechanisms that didn't impact us and say, "Okay, as a state, we're going to put another $100 million to extend um their support of of um the school unemployment aid again as we move into the next round. The challenge is is it's out there, right? It's looming. and they extended it for one year. Uh my guess is they're not going to extend it in perpetuity. Again, it's a cliff that's hanging out there. It's just not what we're living in in today's world. Um and then the supplemental school lunch aid, what it will do in 20 the 27 28 school year. So it was here is reimbursement of 12 a.5 um state funding 12.5 cents per meal or different things. They're reducing that by half and going to 6.25. 25 again two years out um not impacting us today. Uh what also happened with school lunch aid is they are now um allowing students to p purchase a second breakfast or lunch if you've already received one that was paid for. So it was the prohibition I happen to have an older son and I can tell you breakfast and or the type A breakfast and or lunch was never enough to feed them. And then there was uh prohibition for them to be able to just purchase one on their own. Now the state has said, "Yeah, go ahead, buy buy the second meal if you need that to um help fulfill your hunger pangs." The district impact for state aid. Um when looking at 20 FY 26, this column is uh again will be reflected in our revised budget. the compensatory uh revenue again this the state was back and forth legislatively um there was talk like I hold harmless do people whatever they received a year ago they receive now doesn't matter what the counts are or you know what your free and reduced counts are your direct certification counts are that's what you're going to get um we did receive more than we were anticipating uh by approximately $970,000 that will be for this year so that will be positive impact for us and then moving forward um it will be based on what is our true student count. It's not going to be based off of past experience and just the whole harmless list the freezing of the numbers. So again as our student count goes down um depending on um the concentration of student need in our district. It is entirely possible that that number could go down as well if our concentration remains the same but our student population goes down. Um the other categories um are negatives. I would like to point out when you're looking at the different the four different years um it's not it's based off of the base year. So when you're looking at for example student uh support personnel aid of a negative $28,000 that we're going below what we expect or what we were had received in the past based on formula. That's not 400. I mean it is if you if you multiply it but the 205,000 is based off of today's number that so it it the reduction remains constant. It's not in addition to every year that we go out if that makes sense. So the categories where we will see a reduction is student support, personnel aid, uh school library aid, achievement and integration has a a slight tweak and then the illusion and I call this the illusion is the TRA pension allowance because um it is an illusion because yes there appears to be more money but the rate of contribution for TR eligible employees also went up. So, it's covering the if you went up um and I don't remember the exact percentage, so I'm going to use an estimate. If we went up 1% contribution level, this and if our cost is, you know, $500,000, they're saying the pension allowance will pay for $300,000 of that $500,000 cost. Again, I can have more direct numbers. This is just a highlevel view to say yes, we did get money there, but yes, there's an additional expense there. policy changes. Um, this is kind of a smorgus board of of of different things. Again, may or may not impact us. Um, you know, you look at data practices and and different rules around if someone makes a data request and then doesn't come and pick up their information, what can you do with that? Uh, remote meetings. If should you have a board member that is uh doing something virtually, they no longer have to post the address of where you are virtually when that happens. Um school start date. This is for 27 and 28. uh with Labor Day being so late um they had said that legislatively that you can start do a pre-LOR day start because I think like September 7th and September 6th are Mondays in the 27 28 and that pushes you well into um June potentially depending on what your calendar looks like. And so just looking through um policy changes that are out there u this does not impact us. I'm looking at like mascots. If we were to be um in a place where our mascot was um needed to be changed, there is going there's some replacement dollars that the state said, "Yes, we want we you need to change your mascot and we'll help you fund that change." Um again, these are not necessarily specific to us, but they are some of the things that holistically came out of the legislative session. Now, this one, this one we'll talk about because um when talking about financial impact, this is a policy issue. And I'll say it's an issue because it actually changed the last legislative session. I do not know if it was mentioned um but you're going to start hearing about it both because it impacts both the employer and the employee when uh Minnesota paid leave. And you can see the timeline down there. Minnesota down below. Uh little bit more challenging to read. The Minnesota paid leave becomes available to employees uh January 1st of 2026. And what that does is it essentially says um and I'll just use I'll use pregnancy. Should I uh have a baby in February, I am now entitled to Minnesota paid leave. It's governed and and uh and handled by the state of Minnesota, no different than unemployment. You receive a percentage of your wage for a block of time. Um, and then you can look, you know, does the district want to or can you can you use let's say it's 50%. I think it's greater than that, but let's just say 50% of my wage is paid from this fund at the state of Minnesota. Do I use 50% of my time, my sick time from the district and now I receive half a check from the state and half a check from the district? Do I not use any and just receive the half percent and keep my sick time? It's interesting in that a couple of things. First off, no different um than unemployment, the district needs to contribute to this fund. It is based on wages. So the total formula is 088% of total wages. The district is responsible to at least contribute 044. So we are responsible for at least half of that formula and then the employee is responsible for half. Can things be done? negotiationwise to say the district is going to pick up more of the cost. Sure, it can. We can't pay less than the 044. That said, that cost for an entire year for us, I think when I was running the numbers for this year and then looking out into next year, we're probably at about $600,000 of cost for this program. Plus, um I would strongly suggest that we as a district would be um having conversations about sick time, sick banks, you know, different things that are embedded within the contracts, um where this is meant to offset. Nonetheless, it's a financial impact. The halfyear is already built into your preliminary budget. I knew this was coming. This is more of just a reminder. I think it's there, too. Yep, there it is. Um and and you will continue to see the financial impact. So that was a big change coming out of the last legislative session. They define it, they being the state define it greater now on how we are to report it, what we need to notify employees of, how we need to notify employees. Again, right now it's designed where each um both the employer and employee absorb half, but it's it's dollars. Um, it's also going to lend itself to what do subs look like? What does it to covered labor? What I mean there's there's there's there's a lot of layers to the to this uh policy. So that is what it exists for Minnesota paid leave again January 1st and we start doing things um in fourth quarter of this year. So we start October one that information moving forward. And then earn sick and safe time. This is not new. Um, but as the state a as this has played out since the last legislative session, like with anything that gets put into play, what worked, what didn't work, what do we need to define more of, uh, have details more around. And so you can see in the really fine print, no shot at reading that, but weather events, um, you know, we can do different things now with language. um you can require if it's more than a certain number of days to say, you know, we need um more information. Before it was just kind of a broad sweep. The initial round coming out of out of the legislative session was employees are entitled to this and there wasn't a lot of um details that were associated with that. And I think now as it's played out in the state the last year, year and a half, it's like, okay, we're going to start nailing some of the details or issues or situations that have come up by the employers uh to address this. Uh I will say um that there was o and I am going to go as you talked about policy tonight and I just ran a list. There are pending model policy updates as it relates to the legislative session. 1, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11. I'm looking at 12 potential policies uh that would need to be addressed based on um based on what happened this year that that I'm aware of and I've seen. So, just so the board is prepared for that as well. Otherwise, that is what I have. Dr. Long and then Dr. Bowman. Um, so I'm just wondering about what about the special ed cross subsidy and the ELLL cross subsidy. Are they are those the same? I have not seen anything on those. If they changed coming from MSBA, AMSD, and the Department of Education, I've seen nothing. So then the percentage would probably still be the same as last. I would anticipate that. Again, I haven't seen it. Um, so I'm not I'm not I can certainly get back to you. I have not seen it as a change legislatively if there is a um again just like anything else else if there is an inflation factor if there's a dollar amount set um on particular categories and and the state as a whole have met that dollar so you receive less because others have gone up. Um it's possible that we could be receiving less. I would just really need to look into that formula to see the impact to us. But there was nothing legislatively changing what happened. Yeah. Cuz I was told with the increase of the special ed cross subsidy and the decrease of the special ed transportation that going to pretty much even each other out. When I spoke to MDE, I that's an interesting statement. I I I don't know that I would agree with that, but again, I'm not versed enough tonight to be able to say that is accurate or not, but I can certainly look into the details of that. You're welcome. Bowman, will you be so kind as to forward to the policy committee the list of 12 so we can keep it on our agenda so that Absolutely. I'll I'll actually Yes, I'll be happy to do that. I mean, I think Joanna, if you sent it to her or whatever, but um we have our meeting tomorrow night, so it' be nice. Well, yay. I think it's a perfect way to have I think it's on the agenda. Yeah, it'll sit right there and we can be faced with it. So, thank you. That was my only question. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, Director Basset. And then so on the sheet that you had that talked that listed all a couple of them that's this that one the one prior so um can you you know to your mic it would be nice to just the ones that as you go forward sorry to interrupt but we can't hear you Helen you speaking to your mic sorry sorry um so as you go for as we go forward as you kind of identify some things can you just kind of res you know resend that and just with some highlights about you don't have to go to the detail this is going to impact this will impact no impact no impact so we kind of know what to be yeah that just 50,000 but not even 30 you know thank you another time in the future executive director Williams um thank you um so and not not in relation to the state legislation I just want to make you all aware we are continuing to monitor what's happening at the federal Many of you are aware that there was a freeze on uh title title funding from the federal level that was due July one. Um that doesn't impact a large percentage of our programs, but it does impact our adult education programming just so you are aware of that. Um so we're just monitoring monitoring um the progress with that. So and it wasn't unanticipated given where this administration had been going, but it's still an impact. Thank you. To I'd like to address director of assets question as I look at it. Uh of that list of the 10 items listed mascots would be the only one that has no impact to us. She's creepers. Um the the read flexibility that's a that's a few pages of changes. Um I'm not the expert in the read but I can almost guarantee given the number of changes some of it is us. Um and the rest you're Yeah. So just a follow up. Hey director BS. Yeah. So really and and so really the fiscal impact is what I I mean the policy changes and so the fiscal impact is really kind of what I'm thinking about with regard to some of those things. So um I and so then the detail of how and how it works and what it will touch all those things I'm not necessarily asking for and and so as and that's why I said at some point in the future as you work your way through it you know so the the fiscal impact to the best of my knowledge is this the other stuff is words and how we deal with things or whatever that's helpful that's helpful right there thank you director So I'm hearing with the some of the changes to the read act that there's a renegotiation with the teachers training and things that need to happen with that. So I'm looking to the educators in the room. So excuse me. So, as I was going through all of the policies that executive director Hohheisel was just talking about, I have taken our policies and made all of the legislative updates to our policies and we'll be bringing all of that information to the policy committee tomorrow night for them to review. The one policy that um we do not have on our website because it looks as though Robinsdale has not adopted policy 621 yet is that read act and literacy aid policy. So that policy is on the agenda for tomorrow night as well. So there is work to be done. Um that policy has been sent to um the assistant superintendent, the senior director of teaching and learning and then the assistant directors of teaching and learning to review and give input into policy 621 and then we will also have that policy roll forward to the policy committee. So, policy 621, we have um additional heavy lift to do with that policy outside of just the legislative updates. Yeah. So, with respect to the read act, what um we're talking about, at least in the negotiations that I've been involved in, is um advancing training. So you we're entering year two of that first cohort. Um but there um the draftou is going to be revised to reflect additional training as the um second cohort moves in. Um and some districts are discussing how to deal with teachers who uh new hired teachers um and what training that will look like um before they come out of school with that training. So there'll be some sort of transition over the next few years that I'm sure the the actual educators know much more about, but that's where it's coming into negotiations. Thank you, Liz. Okay, any other hands up? Any other questions? Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. You're welcome. Okay, this moves us down to board committee reports and board reports. And just a reminder to the board um we're not separating out committee reports from the board report. So if you are on a committee uh make your committee report also part of your board report. So just we just one time and the first item up is the governance policy m procedure manual task force report. Okay. It is with such great pleasure that I pass a copy to each and every one of you. Um you will recall that last year in August MSBA published their first uh schoolboard governance policy handbook. Um, and it was at that time when I was board chair that, uh, I began to work on it. And then Gita and I picked up and started working on it. Molly and I have worked on it. Uh, we probably have been through every line of the handbook multiple times. Um, our our ask from this board is I believe this is going to come back for a vote in September, correct? So, our ask forum from the board is that you go through it, read it, make note of of questions you might have, concerns that you might have or things that you might like added to it. Remember though that the basis of this was not created by us. The basis was created by Minnesota Schoolboard Association. It aligns with their current policies that we of course adopt. So, um, this is just your assignment for a little light summer reading by the pool. Uh, and, uh, you know, Kita, did you have anything else you wanted to add? Actually, I do. I would really like to express our thanks to Molly Olsen. You will notice in here, um, there are things that are underlined. Are the aren't the underlines the links? in the online document where this will be living. There are links of everything, all kinds of information. And so, uh, the links are just noted in here. The links are not included in here, but it was and then besides that, Molly had to renumber all the pages in the in the table of contents. And so, thank you very much for all the work that you did on that. And enjoy the light reading, everyone. and and the table of contents we have not reviewed at this point really in any earnest because we do know that um things could change and that the last thing we do will be to correct the table of contents so that we're doing that only once and just to clarify the items that are linked uh within the printed document you see that there's a link there we just have not have included the linked document within this so if you're interested in seeing what the linked document looks like you'll have to go online. Director Basset, you look like you have a question on that. No, no, that wasn't my serious look. No. Okay. I just want to uh because the links are all there. The links have been tested and uh uh Yeah. Thank you. Okay. So, now we're going to move on to the board reports and I would like to start with Director Basset because we had listening time tonight. I'll do you want would you like a little time? Well, I I'll go. I'll go. Well, no, I do want some time. No. Okay. Okay. I'll start at the other end of the table then. Okay. Board reports. I have no nothing to report at this time. Okay. Pass. Yes. Okay. Um so I did attend um district 287 meeting. Um they will be on a break for the month of July. So the June meeting that I attended was the last one for their uh school uh year and then we'll start back up in August. Um so at that meeting there was a human resources report that was given. Um when they have different reports that are given they give background information. We get a one um pager that has background information um fiscal impact and funding sources and um recommended action within the one pager um that we talk about. So, we talked about human resources. We talked about some board business um where we uh talked about the different memberships that we that 287 is involved in and paying for and talked about where in the budget that money was coming from. Um there was another human resources report where they went into the medical uh providers that they uh their committee decided to choose for this next upcoming school year. There was another human resources one about um pay raises for administrative staff. They said that for their administrative leadership staff they stick at 2% because they feel that that's what's fair for um their district um and for to make sure that they have um competitive pay for the people who are doing the ground level uh work with our students and especially with them dealing with federal setting. three, four um students um alternative schools and things like that where the studenttoteer ratio is much lower. Um they also take in mind that impact when um giving out raises to their leadership and knowing that the funding most of their funding needs to go to pay for those people who are working closely with the students. Um, did I talk about the dental one that we had to where they talked about the dental committee? Um, and uh gave us information about that. Um, and then as always, if you know the rest of the board members here would like to go on a tour of uh 287, just let me know and I can give you the dates and times uh when those tours are happening. Um, another thing that happened is I also had a um, city council member come to me with some issues with one of the schools uh, within that city. Um, so I was able to go to the superintendent of 287 and say this person would really like to talk to you about that issue. Uh, the superintendent would shared with me what the full issue was, who was involved with that issue. She did later then to come back with me out after talking with the city council member to give me a full report of what next steps were and what was shared with the city council member. And then um uh we didn't talk about the safety and security ad hoc committee. So director Okay. So, we are still waiting for a date on that and we still have not received uh the draft that supposedly the attorney sent over to the superintendent. We had a due date of May 30th for that and so that ad hoc committee still has not received that nor have we received a date when we can uh meet and talk about things as an ad hoc committee. So I feel like we are being um yeah blockage barriers are being put in our way our work um done. Yes. Okay. Me no report other than the enjoy your late reading on the policy manual. Uh Director Holmes no report. Director Basset. Well, we did have listening hour tonight and we had uh really a number of residents who came to listening hour uh to speak to the board and um so we had uh three and uh by agreement or policy change or whatever you want to call it. The board has had some discussion about not trying to regurgitate exactly what people said and get it wrong, but really more to summarize the fact that we had uh the number of residents who spoke to a certain issue. And we had uh some powerful testimony from three or comments from uh actually we have three who spoke to um the closing of the family literacy program. and uh and they all were very heartfelt, but in particular we had a mother come and and um her child came with her and she talked about what it's meant to have that program in. It was really quite um moving. Uh we also had someone who um came and talked to us about the budget and raised concerns about uh the board passing a budget that clearly has a deficit and um and just questioning um you know how that happened and what what our intentions are around budgeting. Um we also had another person who came and talked about first of all I thanked the or the district for continuing to invest in um gifted and talented and actually spoke to the fact that her student was actually attending 287 and was really receiving some great benefit from that and appreciated our district continuous involvement with that and um also kind of hoping that we will continue to have a robust programs around gifted and talented which of course has also experienced some legislative change over the last few years. Um then we had um someone come and talk to uh us about actually a staff member who talked about uh concerns around uh the changes to the district's calendar and um so we heard that uh and actually we've had quite a discussion about the calendar uh and changes to the calendar even here tonight at the board table and so um that was a concern and then um we had a general comment that would have been made by a person who felt that you know uh people have been coming now and actually we've had very robust uh attendance at our listening sessions probably for the last I would say maybe five to six weeks and uh in this district there have been many occasions over the years where we've had a robust discussion uh this time around we are having uh very heartfelt comments from people who are talking about those things and the view was they see because the you know people are here and they come several times. They come quite often and so they're here a lot and they feel like the feeling from this individual was that many people mention concerns and issues but they and they don't really see anything happening or no no action from that. So um I actually did take a minute and talk about the fact of listening session and its purpose. And the purpose of listening session is for the board to actually hear from the community so they are exactly where they should be talking to us about things. And along with listening session, we also get emails and all of those kinds of things. And um it helps board members understand the tenor of the community. And after all, that's our job part of it. uh and so um you know but we don't talk and give responses there because we're not going to be defending uh often the superintendent or other administrators may need to gather more data. So there are some reasons that we chose that approach and and we're pretty committed to it. Um you know uh but as the public can see we do kind of talk in greater detail about some of those issues uh as we should. So that's my listening area report and I will say that I did uh go to a number of other meetings uh you know in this uh short period of time. Uh actually in particularly because we're talking about labor, I was invited to the Minneapolis Lab Regional Labor Federation uh connecting elected leaders for labor uh back in June and um and many things were talked about with regard to labor and um I've referenced this a time or two, but in particular they talked about supporting public education and uh of course that got my attention, you know, along with many other things that were talked about. And so it was a a very good meeting. um was very well attended by elected officials, city councils, as well as school board members. Uh and we've talked in the past about this board being more active with our seven uh we have seven cities that we're part of. They're part of us, we're part of them. And so, uh city government is very important and and where we can find partnership. I think it's important that we try to look for that. And I know superintendent we attended you had the partners meeting earlier in the month you know and so I know that the district has tried to continue to maintain those connections and those connections are very important you know so um I there are a couple other things but in the interest of time and we have two additional meetings tonight so I'm going to pass at this moment and I don't know where you're going next well I'm going to director w yeah no official reports uh pass But I do want to volunteer my participation on the policy committee if necessary. Yes, we'd love to have you. Yes. You know, are you available tomorrow night? Yes, at 4:30 we'll be there. All right. Well, that worked out. Yeah. Okay. Um, oh dear, we're all out of out of agenda items. So, is there a move to adjurnn? So, move clarification though if because we have a closed session. So, do we still adjourn this meeting or do we do close session and then adjourn the meeting? Oh, thanks for asking. We actually full session. Read your Okay. On our agenda, it says we recess, but um No, on our agenda, it says we adjourn, but technically what do we do, council? Yes. Sorry, I was just looking at how it is um posted. Um so your your close session does have a call to order and roll call separate from this meeting. So I think you would adjourn this meeting and then convene your second meeting and then um go into the close session. Thank you. Okay. So a move to adjourn is in order. If I could hear one so moved. Moved by director Bowman. Second. Seconded by director Holmes. All in favor of adjourning. Please say I. I. Oppose say nay. We are adjourned. It is 8:44 and we will start our close session 10 minutes from now at 854 and it'll be in here.