Edina City Council — Transcript

Tuesday, July 30, 2024

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Edina Planning Commission Reconsiders Building Design Rules for Southdale

Building Materials and Facade Requirements

District-Specific Zoning Overlays

Notable Quotes (7)

introduction of an ordinance that we've talked about amending well really throughout last year regarding first floor ceiling height and building transparency on the ground level

Staff Presenter [0:42]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

what we're looking for tonight is just initial thoughts anything that you'd like us to go back and study

Staff Presenter [2:07]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

the idea was that um because you don't want to have to tear down a building um or force it into a particular use because uses change over time and so the idea was keep it at 20 ft for any kind of building regardless of what it was so that you have flexibility

J Stles [9:48]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

with garages or ramps like 10 ft is a standard on post tension or any other kind of ramps they're not going to want to build yeah more height cuz it's more cost so like they could get by with France

Commissioner [21:53]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

do we're going to create an overlay district for the greater sou District that the same way we have different setback for so yeah we could you know yeah I don't think it makes sense to have this like a 44th of France or other small areas it doesn't really make sense

Staff Presenter [24:19]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

to me it certainly looks better to have it on all four sides or to require it on all four sides rather than to have I mean if you think of you know houses will do it for cost reasons right the first the road facing face of the house will be brick and then the rest of it will be siding but that can look look pretty cheap on IND on commercial buildings

Ryan Day [31:19]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

lot of request to reduce from 75% so that's why we went to 50 see thinking that was because everybody's asked to reduce it but they're outs a lot of them are outside Southdale

Staff Presenter [46:13]
Proposed Amendments to First Floor Ceiling Height and Building Transparency Ordinance

Ordinances & Resolutions (9)

Ordinance (2020)Ordinance

Existing ordinance established 20ft first floor ceiling height and 75% building transparency, derived from design experience guidelines.

Design Experience GuidelinesPlan

Source of recommendations for the 2020 ordinance, emphasizing consistent urban streetscapes.

Sustainability PolicyPolicy

Cited as a reason to reconsider tall ceilings and extensive glass, as it may conflict with energy efficiency goals.

PCD (Planned Commercial District)Zoning

Zoning district where proposals include reducing ceiling height to 12ft and transparency to 50%; residential use on first floor is prohibited.

PID (Planned Industrial District)Zoning

Zoning district where proposals include eliminating the 20ft ceiling height and reducing transparency to 50%.

Pod (Planned Office District)Zoning

Zoning district where proposals include eliminating the 20ft ceiling height and reducing transparency to 50%.

PUD (Planned Unit Development)Permit

Type of development approval mentioned for the Macy's site, allowing for negotiated conditions like height.

Zoning AuditOther

Ongoing review mentioned by staff, which might influence the future structure of zoning districts and overlays.

Comprehensive PlanPlan

Referenced in the context of land use categories within Southdale.

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