Edina Planning Commission Reconsiders Building Design Rules for Southdale
The Edina Planning Commission held a work session on February 28 to explore changes to a 2020 ordinance governing building design in the city's commercial districts. The discussion centered on whether to relax requirements for ceiling heights and window transparency, and whether those rules should apply uniformly across all commercial areas or only in the Southdale District.
The commission is considering amending rules that currently require first-floor ceilings to be at least 20 feet tall and 75% of ground-level walls to be transparent (windows or glass). Staff proposed reducing the transparency requirement to 50% and lowering ceiling heights to 12 feet in commercial districts, while potentially eliminating the 20-foot requirement entirely in office and industrial zones.
The original 2020 ordinance was designed to create attractive, consistent streetscapes and allow buildings to adapt to different uses over time. However, staff noted that many developers have requested relief from these requirements, citing cost concerns and sustainability issues. Higher ceilings and extensive glass can increase energy costs, staff said.
A key debate emerged over whether these rules should apply citywide or only in Southdale, where the original design vision was most important. Commissioners expressed concern that uniform application could create awkward-looking buildings in smaller commercial areas like 44th and France Avenue. "I don't think it makes sense to have this like a 44th of France or other small areas," a staff presenter said, suggesting instead that the city create a special overlay district for Greater Southdale with its own specific requirements.
Commissioners also discussed whether buildings should meet material standards (brick, stone, or glass) on all four sides or only on sides facing public streets. Commissioner Ryan Day argued for maintaining quality materials on all sides, noting that cutting corners on less-visible facades "can look pretty cheap on commercial buildings."
No votes were taken during this work session. Staff will conduct further research on how to define ceiling heights, apply rules by district, and balance design goals with sustainability and development flexibility. The commission will revisit these proposals at a future meeting.
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introduction of an ordinance that we've talked about amending well really throughout last year regarding first floor ceiling height and building transparency on the ground level
what we're looking for tonight is just initial thoughts anything that you'd like us to go back and study
the idea was that um because you don't want to have to tear down a building um or force it into a particular use because uses change over time and so the idea was keep it at 20 ft for any kind of building regardless of what it was so that you have flexibility
with garages or ramps like 10 ft is a standard on post tension or any other kind of ramps they're not going to want to build yeah more height cuz it's more cost so like they could get by with France
do we're going to create an overlay district for the greater sou District that the same way we have different setback for so yeah we could you know yeah I don't think it makes sense to have this like a 44th of France or other small areas it doesn't really make sense
to me it certainly looks better to have it on all four sides or to require it on all four sides rather than to have I mean if you think of you know houses will do it for cost reasons right the first the road facing face of the house will be brick and then the rest of it will be siding but that can look look pretty cheap on IND on commercial buildings
lot of request to reduce from 75% so that's why we went to 50 see thinking that was because everybody's asked to reduce it but they're outs a lot of them are outside Southdale
Ordinances & Resolutions (9)
Existing ordinance established 20ft first floor ceiling height and 75% building transparency, derived from design experience guidelines.
Source of recommendations for the 2020 ordinance, emphasizing consistent urban streetscapes.
Cited as a reason to reconsider tall ceilings and extensive glass, as it may conflict with energy efficiency goals.
Zoning district where proposals include reducing ceiling height to 12ft and transparency to 50%; residential use on first floor is prohibited.
Zoning district where proposals include eliminating the 20ft ceiling height and reducing transparency to 50%.
Zoning district where proposals include eliminating the 20ft ceiling height and reducing transparency to 50%.
Type of development approval mentioned for the Macy's site, allowing for negotiated conditions like height.
Ongoing review mentioned by staff, which might influence the future structure of zoning districts and overlays.
Referenced in the context of land use categories within Southdale.
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