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Housing and Redevelopment Authority Sept. 12, 2024
Edina City CouncilThursday, September 12, 2024
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[0:06] all
[0:09] right all
[0:12] right good morning welcome to the
[0:16] meeting of the Ed city of Edina Housing
[0:18] and Redevelopment Authority meeting this
[0:20] is September 20 SE September 12th um to
[0:25] Thursday September 12th at 7:30 a.m. and
[0:28] with that I will call the meeting to
[0:30] order uh executive director could you
[0:32] please take our roll call commissioner
[0:35] Pierce present commissioner Anno present
[0:38] commissioner Jackson here and with that
[0:41] we will stand for the Pledge of
[0:43] Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag
[0:46] of the United States of America and to
[0:49] the Republic for which it stands one
[0:52] nation under God indivisible with
[0:55] liberty and justice for
[0:58] all thank you now we are continuing to
[1:01] conduct these meetings in a hybrid
[1:03] fashion uh and when we get to community
[1:06] comment that comes up very quickly uh
[1:08] you can dial in uh or and we'll start
[1:10] with people in the audience if anybody's
[1:12] here and so uh could we please show the
[1:15] Callin information so here you go
[1:16] there's the number and the access code
[1:18] and remember to press star three when
[1:21] you're ready to speak and that will be
[1:23] Community comment is the only time this
[1:24] morning that we will be having um intake
[1:27] from the community so with that then
[1:31] let's move on to approval of the meeting
[1:33] agenda can I have a motion to approve
[1:36] the meeting agenda so moved second all
[1:39] right moved by commissioner agnu second
[1:41] by commissioner Pierce um all those in
[1:44] favor signify by saying I hi hi hi okay
[1:47] it passes oh and by the way if you're
[1:49] wondering where our normal chair is and
[1:51] our commissioner rer they're both unable
[1:54] to be here this morning so we are down
[1:56] to a mighty 3 um so now see I told you
[2:00] it come up quickly it's time for
[2:01] Community comment I don't see anybody in
[2:04] the audience and um director benat are
[2:07] you having any callers come
[2:09] online I do not have anyone on the the
[2:12] line at this point but because there is
[2:14] a slight delay in the broadcast I would
[2:16] recommend we wait one minute before
[2:17] moving on my clock shows it it's 7:33 so
[2:21] I will come back to you when I have a
[2:22] caller or at 7:34 whichever is first
[2:25] okay terrific thank
[2:28] you e
[3:26] 9 8 s not want to deny anyone the
[3:31] opportunity to participate it is now
[3:33] 7:34 and I don't have any callers so I
[3:36] think it's safe to move forward thank
[3:37] you the longest minute of the day um so
[3:40] it is our custom to respond to previous
[3:42] Community comment um have our executive
[3:45] director respond to that uh executive
[3:47] director Neil did we have any comments
[3:48] from last time we did not okay thank you
[3:51] so much and with that we can move on to
[3:53] the adoption of the consent agenda um
[3:56] may I have a motion to approve the
[3:57] consent agenda so moved a second moved
[4:01] by me uh commissioner Pierce and second
[4:04] by commissioner agnu all those in favor
[4:06] can uh signify by saying I I I I thank
[4:10] you it passes okay we have no public
[4:13] hearings this morning so we're straight
[4:15] into reports and recommendations and I
[4:18] will uh turn it over to our executive
[4:20] director Scott Neil to uh begin the
[4:23] discussion thank you madam chair the
[4:25] only item on the agenda for the HRA this
[4:28] morning is the approval of the proposed
[4:31] 2025 operating
[4:33] budget this is a budget that is separate
[4:36] uh from our general operating budget it
[4:38] has a separate tax levy associated with
[4:40] it the tax levy is approved first by the
[4:44] HRA and then is confirmed by the city
[4:47] council at the same time that the
[4:49] council approves the preliminary uh 2025
[4:52] total tax levy um so what we're asking
[4:55] for uh today is your approval of a of a
[4:58] budget proposal
[5:00] that really is a 3% increase in our Levy
[5:03] um it's about a $7,600 increase in total
[5:06] revenue uh it's what we would we would
[5:09] refer to it as an incremental budget uh
[5:12] this has been a a pretty consistent 3%
[5:14] increase um with our HRA every year we
[5:17] use our HRA revenues to fund staff costs
[5:21] uh admin costs um legal costs associated
[5:25] with our housing and economic
[5:26] development uh functions in city
[5:28] government um if you have if you have
[5:30] specific questions about any of our
[5:32] numbers either me or our finance
[5:36] director patau can answer your
[5:39] questions okay so um in our memo uh well
[5:44] first of all I'll just turn to my fellow
[5:45] commissioners before I start talking um
[5:48] anybody have any uh questions or
[5:51] comments I'm good for
[5:54] now okay well um I just wanted to put
[5:58] out the for the the general public the
[6:00] total number so we are looking at um a
[6:04] total uh amount levied of
[6:08] $259,300 is that correct that's correct
[6:11] okay and that's a 3% increase from what
[6:13] we had previously and this is something
[6:16] we do annually is that correct that is
[6:17] correct okay and and uh what's the
[6:20] current rate of inflation do you know um
[6:23] approximately director to do you know
[6:25] what that is
[6:30] okay okay okay wonderful thank you um so
[6:33] we're right in line with inflationary
[6:36] increases here okay terrific thank you
[6:39] and there's no there are no special or
[6:42] other otherwise extra inflationary kinds
[6:44] of changes that are happening in this
[6:46] budget there are we could we'll argue
[6:48] next week in the in the larger City
[6:51] budget but in this budget uh there are
[6:53] not thank you very much commissioner agu
[6:56] thank you are there limits to
[7:00] how much this can increase in any given
[7:03] year no I don't think there is I think
[7:06] there's like a percentage that we can
[7:08] only have the H Levy be per I think our
[7:12] tax capacity It could only be a certain
[7:15] percentage of it and I don't have that
[7:16] percentage off the top of my head it's
[7:18] it's a percentage I of our market value
[7:20] which is which means that that maximum
[7:23] you I'm sure we could Levy two or three
[7:26] million do here well below it yeah we
[7:29] well below that number then most cities
[7:32] are okay that and that's helpful and and
[7:35] where my mind was going is I know we've
[7:36] had a few conversations in the past
[7:39] about the opportunity that might exist
[7:43] to
[7:45] um use these funds in another way and I
[7:48] just wanted to make sure that you know
[7:49] if we had a plan together in the future
[7:52] that we would still have the the
[7:54] possibility of increasing you if if
[7:57] there like next year yes I would
[7:58] acknowledge that um this Levy that we're
[8:01] uh that I'm recommending to you today
[8:03] would preclude those for 2025 but it
[8:06] does not preclude them for 2026 or
[8:09] Beyond thank
[8:11] you that prompt any questions from you
[8:14] commissioner Pierce yes thanks uh Madam
[8:16] chair
[8:18] um so as we move forward just the bigger
[8:22] context of the total Levy um and so
[8:27] we're we are asked to assess this and
[8:31] approve this today and then speak about
[8:35] how we determine the final Levy and how
[8:39] um if we decided to make some decisions
[8:42] that were different um as it within the
[8:45] respects of HRA then what would happen
[8:48] if we wanted to um say raise this for
[8:52] whatever reason in the context of the
[8:55] the broader
[8:56] Levy tax levy so commissioner Pierce
[8:59] you're asking asking how we determine
[9:01] the final Levy for the H or for the for
[9:04] the full City budget I'm asking both so
[9:06] I'm saying the final Levy for the city
[9:10] and then this as a subset of that okay
[9:12] um and then I'm asking um proc
[9:15] process-wise if we decided we wanted to
[9:17] adjust something within the HRA Levy
[9:20] what's that process how would we do that
[9:22] okay so those two levies and those two
[9:25] budgets are separate right the HRA is a
[9:28] is
[9:29] is a subsidiary organization of city
[9:32] government so when you set this Levy
[9:35] today you're setting the the maximum
[9:38] Levy that could be Set uh for 2025 so as
[9:44] we move forward uh to December and final
[9:47] approval of that Levy uh after today if
[9:51] this is approved as proposed you could
[9:53] only go lower you can't go higher okay
[9:55] um and that's the same the same is true
[9:57] with the general city budget as well
[9:59] okay thank
[10:01] you good question thank you I've
[10:03] forgotten that part of it um so uh
[10:07] without any further discussion um can I
[10:09] have a motion to approve resolution
[10:11] number
[10:18] 2024-25
[10:20] so
[10:22] moved second moved by member or
[10:25] commissioner Pierce second by
[10:26] commissioner agnu any further discussion
[10:29] all those in favor signify by saying I I
[10:32] I I all right and we've got it passed so
[10:36] um then we're on to Executive director's
[10:39] comments just uh one brief one today and
[10:42] that is that we are beginning to have
[10:44] some discussions uh around U our meeting
[10:48] schedule for
[10:49] 2025 uh we would like the the HRA to
[10:53] give some thought to whether or not
[10:54] you'd still like this format um of a
[10:57] 7:30 a.m. Thursday a morning meeting um
[11:01] we we have other options of course uh
[11:04] there were there were the first few
[11:06] years I was here we would try to tack an
[11:08] hre meeting on the end of a city council
[11:11] meeting uh those years meant that
[11:13] sometimes that h meeting didn't start
[11:15] till 11:00 at night sometimes after
[11:18] midnight um that's why we actually mve
[11:20] that meeting until an early morning slot
[11:23] um but we are thinking about whether
[11:25] this is a good time for you is it it uh
[11:28] staff can make it work whenever we
[11:30] whenever we choose but um our Thursday
[11:33] is the right day uh we've talked about
[11:35] whether or not to substitute this
[11:38] meeting uh for some of our work session
[11:41] time slots and do do an h meeting
[11:43] immediately prior to the city council
[11:44] meeting um so we don't have to decide
[11:47] that today but I'd like you to give some
[11:48] thought to it because we will bring uh
[11:51] sometime in October we hope or early
[11:54] November uh the 2025 meeting schedule
[11:57] back to you for an approval
[12:00] so comments on that yeah thank you so my
[12:06] initial reactions are I don't want to
[12:10] change it dramatically like I don't want
[12:11] to tack this on to the end of a meeting
[12:13] I don't want to go that late um and I
[12:16] also don't love the idea of using our
[12:19] work sessions for it because it feels
[12:21] like we always have things that we want
[12:24] to discuss in those forms as a council
[12:26] and so I I think it would be unfortunate
[12:28] to lose out on any of that time together
[12:32] um so my recommendation would be keep it
[12:36] mostly the same maybe bump it earlier
[12:38] like 700 a.m. so we can uh be sure to be
[12:43] out uh before the workday starts for
[12:45] some folks but I can continue to make
[12:48] 7:30 work if
[12:50] needed yeah so I I agree with
[12:53] commissioner agnu um although I don't
[12:58] know that I want to start at 7: but I
[13:01] think where she's coming from is spoton
[13:03] so the thing that's difficult to uh deal
[13:06] with is when we move beyond the end day
[13:10] or end time and so um either starting
[13:13] earlier so that we can ensure that we
[13:16] finish um as um expected or we need to
[13:21] build the agendas and control the
[13:23] conversation so that we're done on time
[13:26] and then it's easy to adjust this with
[13:28] our our day job
[13:31] schedules I will uh confirm you agree
[13:34] with my fellow Commissioners I think the
[13:37] one thing that comes to my mind is in
[13:39] both our work sessions and our H HRA
[13:41] meetings we've been dealing with such
[13:43] complicated issues that the time really
[13:45] feels tight um so I definitely don't
[13:48] want to get rid of the work sessions um
[13:52] but let's see we've got a little over an
[13:54] hour for a work session this is an hour
[13:56] and a half scheduled so if there 's any
[13:59] way to control the agenda where we can
[14:01] actually get things done in a timely
[14:04] fashion I don't know they things come at
[14:06] us from the outside world Fast and
[14:07] Furious um and we have a lot of
[14:09] complicated decisions to make but I do
[14:11] want to make sure that we have enough
[14:13] time for both our work sessions and our
[14:15] HRA meetings um this time does work for
[14:18] me do do any of the three of you have uh
[14:21] thoughts on you know one of when we'
[14:23] moved to Thursday mornings there we had
[14:25] this discussion about do you want to
[14:27] have HRA meetings synced with a council
[14:29] week uh or do you want it to
[14:32] be uh staggered does that have any
[14:36] anybody have strong feelings one way or
[14:37] another and that missioner Pierce uh
[14:40] thanks Madam chair I what's more there's
[14:43] two things that I would say important to
[14:45] me one is having the schedule as early
[14:49] as possible so that um I can kind of
[14:52] work that in the everything else um and
[14:55] then I think second would be
[14:59] we meet when we need to and so if that
[15:02] ends up meaning in a year for HRA we
[15:05] only need to have five meetings then
[15:08] let's just have five meetings um so
[15:11] whatever the need is let's schedule that
[15:14] but let's try to to um schedule it far
[15:17] enough in advance so that we can adjust
[15:20] okay personally um I found having two
[15:24] meetings in a week was exhausting I know
[15:27] it's hard to schedule vacations that way
[15:29] way um but having having to turn around
[15:32] two days later and deal with another set
[15:34] of complicated issues was uh very
[15:36] difficult and it can be done but I'd
[15:39] prefer to have that time to stop and and
[15:42] re refocus on being
[15:47] HRA yeah I agree with that as well I
[15:49] think there is so much preparation that
[15:51] goes into most meetings um today was a
[15:55] shorter packet right but in most
[15:57] meetings where it's it's I wouldn't be
[16:01] able to start consuming the packet for
[16:04] the Thursday until after the Tuesday
[16:06] because I would have too much on my
[16:07] brain and so I think for me I I like to
[16:10] keep it staggered um even though I agree
[16:14] it does kind of add some of that
[16:16] difficulty in scheduling uh travel and
[16:18] other other things but it's doable
[16:21] terrific okay thank you so did you get
[16:23] feedback in yeah that's helpful thank
[16:25] you and I and I will check in with the
[16:26] with the your two colleagues as well
[16:28] okay okay thank you so much okay and
[16:30] with that we move to HRA Commissioners
[16:33] comments and we'll start on my left
[16:34] commissioner agnu do you have any
[16:35] comments this morning no none this
[16:38] morning okay teric commissioner peers no
[16:41] nothing from me this morning thank you
[16:43] thank you so um I want to just remind
[16:47] people we are the economic development
[16:48] body as well as the housing uh
[16:51] development body and I want to remind
[16:54] people go shop at 50th in France and
[16:57] shop at 44th and France the construction
[17:00] has been very hard on our businesses
[17:02] there they can use your patronage
[17:04] they've got wonderful sales things are
[17:06] turning over with the new season and
[17:08] it's a great place to go down and uh see
[17:10] people and have some fun and spend a
[17:13] little money so with that I will
[17:15] entertain a motion to adjourn am moved
[17:19] second okay motion by commissioner agu
[17:21] second by commissioner Pierce all those
[17:23] in favor signify by saying I I I all
[17:26] right thank you and we are adjourned
[17:57] e for