[0:09] >> Welcome, everyone to the

[0:24] regular meeting of the

[0:25] Minneapolis planning commission.

[0:26] For July 7th, 2025 my name is

[0:29] Chris Meyer and I'm Chair of the

[0:30] commission. We have a new

[0:34] Commissioner before we take the

[0:36] role. -- roll. Mr. Dave

[0:40] shepherd. Would you like to

[0:41] tell us about yourself. Turn on

[0:43] the microphone. Yep.

[0:45] >> I'm Dave shepherd I'm a

[0:48] commercial architect for the

[0:49] past 30 years and I'm part of a

[0:52] firm in HPR, and that's the long

[0:55] and short of it.

[0:56] >> Great, welcome. Tell us how

[0:59] to She that, pard or do you mean

[1:02] Dave. (Laugh.)

[1:07] >> All right. With that I will

[1:16] ask the clerk to call the roll.

[1:22] (Roll call.)

[1:43] >> Okay. We have 8 members

[1:45] present.

[1:45] >> We have a quorum. Next we'll

[1:47] go to the minutes. Is there a

[1:48] motion to approve the minutes of

[1:49] June 16th, 20 that 25.

[1:51] >> So moved.

[1:52] >> Is there a second.

[1:53] >> Second.

[1:54] >> All right. Is there any

[1:55] discussion on those minutes?

[1:56] Seeing none, all in favor say

[1:58] aye.

[1:58] >> Aye.

[1:59] >> Opposed say nay.

[2:02] Abstentions? The minutes are

[2:03] adopted.

[2:04] Next we will organize the

[2:06] agenda. I'm going to read

[2:07] through the different items and

[2:10] we're going to put each item

[2:12] either on consent or discussion.

[2:13] If it's on consent then we're

[2:14] going to vote for them all at

[2:15] once. If it's discussion then

[2:17] you'll have an opportunity to

[2:19] speak on them. So if you want

[2:21] to speak against the staff

[2:23] recommendation when I go to the

[2:25] item, I'll say whether anyone

[2:28] wants to speak on that, raise

[2:29] your hand at that time.

[2:31] So staff of is recommending

[2:33] that items 6 and 9 be on

[2:38] discussion, and I am also

[2:39] putting 5 on discussion. Staff

[2:42] is recommending the rest of the

[2:43] items for consent so I'm going

[2:44] to read through those ones.

[2:46] First No. 4, 350 and 360 north

[2:48] 5th street, Ward 3. Is there

[2:51] anyone here to speak against the

[2:52] staff recommendation on

[2:54] Item No. 4? All right.

[2:57] Item No. We're discussing.

[2:59] 6 we're discussing. Item No. 7,

[3:03] 2900 Clinton avenue. Is there

[3:04] anyone here to speak against the

[3:06] staff recommendation for 20900

[3:08] Clinton avenue? All right.

[3:09] We'll put Item No. 7 on

[3:12] discussion.

[3:12] No. 8, 2801 is there anyone

[3:21] here to speak against

[3:23] Item No. 8? Seeing none.

[3:25] Item No. 9 will be on

[3:27] discussion.

[3:27] >> Chair Meyer. I would like a

[3:29] short presentation on 8. We're

[3:30] still going to get that; right?

[3:34] All right. Thank you.

[3:35] >> We can put that on

[3:36] discussion.

[3:36] >> Yeah, thank you.

[3:37] >> Okay. So to review, item 4

[3:43] on consent, 5 on discussion, 6

[3:44] on discussion, 7 on consent, 8

[3:47] on discussion, 9 on discussion.

[3:49] Is there a motion to

[3:51] approve the agenda?

[3:52] >> So moved.

[3:53] >> Is there a second.

[3:54] >> Second. All in favor say

[3:55] aye.

[3:56] >> Aye.

[3:56] >> Opposed, the agenda is

[3:59] adopted.

[3:59] All right. So first we'll

[4:01] move to the consent agenda so if

[4:06] you are here for items 4 and 7

[4:08] and just wanted to say something

[4:09] about it, now is the opportunity

[4:13] to do that. So I'm opening the

[4:14] hearing for it. Would anyone

[4:16] like to speak on any have those.

[4:18] All right. Is no -- any of

[4:20] those. Not seeing any we'll

[4:21] close the consent agenda. Is

[4:22] there a motion -- first, is

[4:23] there any discussion from

[4:25] commissioners? Commissioner

[4:27] Chowdhury? You had your light

[4:28] on. Sorry.

[4:33] Anyone else have

[4:39] discussion?

[4:39] All right. Seeing none,

[4:40] all in favor of the consent

[4:41] agenda say aye.

[4:42] >> Aye.

[4:43] >> Any abstentions or against?

[4:46] The consent agenda is adopted.

[4:49] All right. So we'll move

[4:50] to our first discussion item,

[4:52] Item No. 5. Staff is

[4:57] Hilary Dvorak. This is 3601 --

[5:11] 3701 and 3601 Washington avenue.

[5:27] >> Okay. Good afternoon,

[5:28] commissioners. I'm hurl Hilary.

[5:31] A principal city planner in land

[5:34] use preservation section. I'm

[5:35] here to speak to Item No. 5 this

[5:38] evening for the properties at

[5:40] 3701 and 3601 Washington avenue

[5:44] north. This is located in north

[5:47] Minneapolis just two blocks west

[5:49] of the Mississippi River and

[5:51] just south of Dowling avenue. .

[5:55] FOR ORIENTATION, DOWLING

[5:57] AVENUE OR NORTH IS ON YOUR RIGHT

[6:01] SO THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE

[6:04] SITE. WASHINGTON IS ON THE

[6:05] EASTSIDE OF THE SITE AND ON THE

[6:07] BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.

[6:10] THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING

[6:11] TO CONSTRUCT A 287-SPACE

[6:16] PRINCIPAL PARKING LOT ON THE

[6:16] SITE. THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE

[6:18] DIVIDED INTO TWO ZONES. THE

[6:20] SOUTHERN ZONE WOULD BE USED FOR

[6:22] RIDE-SHARING AND WOULD HAVE 74

[6:23] PARKING SPACES AND THE NORTHERN

[6:25] ZONE WOULD BE USED FOR PAID

[6:27] PARKING. AND WOULD HAVE 213

[6:29] PARKING SPACES. THE PAID

[6:32] PARKING SPACES YOU WOULD ORDER

[6:35] THAT SPACE WITH THE PURCHASE OF

[6:38] YOUR TICKET.

[6:39] AND I SHOULD PROBABLY BACK

[6:40] UP AND SAY THIS PROJECT IS FOR

[6:45] THE COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS

[6:46] CENTER OR CPAC WHICH IS LOCATED

[6:48] IF WE 01 -- OR WILL BE LOCATED

[6:51] 3701 WEST RIVER ROAD NORTH.

[6:53] THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE

[6:54] PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN

[6:56] JUNE OF '23 AND THEY WILL BE

[6:59] LOOKING TO BE PULLING THEIR

[7:02] BUILDING PERMITS UNCLEAR WITH

[7:03] OPENING IN -- THIS YEAR IN

[7:05] SPRING OF '27 SO THIS PARKING

[7:07] LOT -- BOTH THE RIDE-SHARE AND

[7:10] THE PAID PARKING LOT SUPPORTS

[7:12] THE COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS

[7:14] CENTER THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN

[7:15] APPROVED BY THE PLANNING

[7:17] COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL

[7:18] AND SO THIS IS PARKING THAT

[7:20] SUPPORTS THAT HUGHS

[7:22] -- SUPPORTS THAT USE.

[7:23] THIS WILL BE TWO-VEHICLE

[7:25] ACCESS POINTS LEADING INTO AND

[7:28] OUT OF THE SURFACE PARKING LOT

[7:29] ONE IS LOCATED MID-BLOCK ON

[7:32] WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THE OTHER

[7:33] ONE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE

[7:34] SITE. THERE WILL BE GATES AT

[7:37] EACH OF THE INSTANCES AS THIS

[7:45] FAR*

[7:45] PARKING LOT WILL NOT BE

[7:46] AVAILABLE ON DATES THERE ARE NOT

[7:46] EVENTS AT THE CPAC.

[7:47] AGAIN THE PRINCIPAL PARKING

[7:48] LOT WOULD SERVICE THE CPAC THIS

[7:50] IS A 230 SEAT AMPHITHEATER WHICH

[7:53] COULD HAVE UP TO -- SO UP TO 90

[8:00] EVENTS PER YEAR. TICKET EVENTS

[8:02] WILL NOT BE SCHEDULED FROM

[8:03] JANUARY THROUGH APRIL. THE

[8:05] EXPECTATION IS THAT THESE LARGER

[8:07] TICKET EVENTS WOULD HAPPEN

[8:09] MID-MAY OR LATER.

[8:11] FOR THE TYPICAL EVENTS AT

[8:13] CPAC SHOWS PARKING LOT OPEN AT

[8:17] 5:00 AND SHOWS END BY 10:00 PM.

[8:21] AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT

[8:22] OF THE CPAC, THE APPLICANT IS

[8:25] REQUIRED TO DEVELOP AN EVENT

[8:27] TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN

[8:28] OR AN ETMP. THE PLAN IS TO

[8:32] DEFINE THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS

[8:34] AND STRATEGIES THAT WILL BE USED

[8:35] TO MANAGE TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE

[8:38] CPAC AND LIMIT TRAFFIC IMPACTS

[8:40] ON THE SURROUNDING

[8:41] NEIGHBORHOODS.

[8:41] THE DRAFT ETMP WAS INCLUDED

[8:45] IN YOUR REPORT ATTACHMENTS

[8:49] UNDER THE STRATEGIES

[8:50] IDENTIFIED ON THE ETMP IS WHEN

[8:54] THE DEVELOPMENT APPROACHES FOR

[8:55] COMPLETION WHICH WILL BE A

[8:57] MANUAL EVENT DAY OPENS. AFTER

[8:58] THE CPAC OPENS IT WILL BE

[9:01] MONITORED BY THE APPLICANT, THE

[9:04] CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE PARK

[9:05] BOARD AND THE ETMP WILL BE

[9:07] ADJUSTED AS NEEDED.

[9:10] SO FOR SOME BACKGROUND THE

[9:12] CITY AND THE PARK BOARD AND THE

[9:14] CPAC HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE

[9:18] PROPERTIES ON THE LARGER 53-ACRE

[9:20] SITE SO THIS IS ONE PARCEL OF

[9:22] THAT LARGER SITE.

[9:26] THE ETMP WILL NEED TO BE

[9:29] APPROVED BY BOTH CPED AND THE

[9:31] PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BEFORE

[9:32] THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS

[9:34] ISSUED FOR THE CPAC. THE CPAC

[9:36] WILL HAVE NO ONSITE PARKING FOR

[9:38] THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE MAY

[9:41] RECALL THIS CONVERSATION AND,

[9:42] THEREFORE, WILL RELY ON A

[9:44] COMBINATION OF YOU SHUTTLE BUSES

[9:46] RIDE-SHARE WHICH THIS

[9:47] APPLICATION IS FOR. OFFSITE

[9:49] PARKING WHICH ALSO THIS

[9:50] APPLICATION IS FOR BIKING,

[9:53] WALKING AND TRANSIT AS A MEANS

[9:54] TO GET TO AND FROM THE

[9:58] AMPHITHEATER. THERE ARE GOALS

[9:59] THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND

[10:02] WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF

[10:03] PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU CAN SEE

[10:04] THOSE MOLD SHARE GOALS FOR THE

[10:06] DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH ONE WILL

[10:07] GET TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THE

[10:09] RIDE-SHARE PARKING AREA WILL

[10:11] ACCOMMODATE 70 VEHICLES. THE

[10:16] ETMP PROJECTS 32 PERCENT OR

[10:17] PARTICULARLY 3,000 GUESTS WILL

[10:19] ARRIVE VIA RIDE-SHARE SO THOSE

[10:21] PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO TURN

[10:22] OVER AND OVER AND OVER LEADING

[10:24] UP TO THE EVENTS AND THEY WILL

[10:26] TURN OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE

[10:27] END OF THE EVENT.

[10:30] THAT THE PAID PARKING AREA

[10:33] WILL ACCOMMODATE 213 VEHICLES.

[10:36] IF EACH VEHICLE IS OCCUPIED BY

[10:39] AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHICH WE'D

[10:40] HOPE THAT'D BE IF NOT MORE THIS

[10:44] IS APPROXIMATELY 5 PE5 PERCENT

[10:48] THE OVERALL GUESTS.

[10:48] I'M GOING TO GO UP ONE.

[10:51] THE PARKING LOT IS LOCATED

[10:52] APPROXIMATELY ONE-THIRD OF A

[10:54] MILE FROM THE CPAC I'M GOING TO

[11:01] SEE TO GET YOU A LITTLE CLOSER.

[11:03] SO THIS IS THE PARKING LOT

[11:04] THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

[11:05] THE CPAC SITS RIGHT IN THIS

[11:09] AREA. WE'RE UNDER SOUTH OF

[11:10] WHERE THE ROAD -- THE PARKWAY

[11:14] WEST RIVER ROAD WHERE IT JOGS

[11:17] OUT TO THAT ROAD AND THE ARCH

[11:19] THEATER WILL BE SITTING HERE.

[11:21] SO FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WEREN'T

[11:22] HERE WHEN WE DID THE

[11:24] AMPHITHEATER IF YOU DO

[11:25] RIDE-SHARE DOWN HERE OR PAY UP

[11:28] HERE THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC

[11:31] ASSETS HERE GETTING PEOPLE TO

[11:33] TRAFFIC AND CARS WHERE THEY NEED

[11:34] TO BE. PEOPLE WILL WALK UP

[11:36] WASHINGTON TO DOWLING, CROSS

[11:39] DOWLING AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS

[11:42] WITH OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL AGENTS

[11:43] AND THEN DOWN WEST RIVER ROAD,

[11:46] MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE CPAC IS AT

[11:49] THE NORTH END ARE THERE. POINT

[11:51] OF VIEW RIGHT THERE. THAT WOULD

[11:54] BE THE PATH TRAVELED ON

[11:56] RIDE-SHARE OR IF YOU HAD PAID

[11:58] FOR A PARKING TICKET IN THAT

[12:02] LOT.

[12:02] SO IT IS ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF

[12:04] A MILE FOR GUESTS TO WALK FROM

[12:08] THE PARKING LOT TO THE CPAC.

[12:11] THE MAXIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE

[12:16] CORRIDOR IS ONE ACRE. THE SITE

[12:17] IS 2.93 ACRES, THEREFORE, A

[12:20] CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A

[12:22] PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR PUD

[12:24] IS REQUIRED. THEY HAVE APPLIED

[12:25] FOR THAT.

[12:27] PARKING LOT -- SURFACE

[12:29] PARKING LOTS AND ANY ZONING LOT

[12:33] IS ZONED AND SO THEY HAVE

[12:35] APPLIED FOR A CONDITIONAL ZONING

[12:38] PERMIT AND.

[12:39] THE FIRST ACTION ON THE

[12:40] AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC

[12:43] LAND CONVEYANCE FINDING THAT

[12:45] THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE

[12:48] COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE ARE

[12:50] ASKING THAT YOU MAKE THAT

[12:51] FINDING TONIGHT AS PART OF THAT

[12:55] APPLICATION.

[12:56] FOR THE PARKING LOT -- OR,

[12:56] EXCUSE ME, FOR THE CONDITIONAL

[12:58] USE PERMIT FOR THE PLANNED UNIT

[13:01] DEVELOPMENT THEY NEEDED 10

[13:01] POINTS OF AMENITIES TO EST

[13:04] ESTABLISH -- TO ESTABLISH --

[13:11] WHOOPS. OKAY, SORRY. HERE WE

[13:17] GO. OKAY. BE.

[13:20] I'M GOING TO START OVER ON

[13:21] THIS ONE. THAT'S WHAT I DO WHEN

[13:25] I CAN'T FIGURE OUT, I START

[13:28] OVER. LET ME GO TO THE

[13:31] LANDSCAPE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF

[13:34] YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT.

[13:36] >> WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING INTO

[13:37] THAT HILARY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS

[13:39] WAS GOING TO BE HELP US

[13:42] UNDERSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN

[13:43] IMPROVEMENTS THE EIGHT POINTS

[13:44] THEY'RE GETTING FOR THAT.

[13:45] >> UH-HUH.

[13:46] >> IF YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT

[13:47] THAT'D BE GREAT.

[13:48] >> SURE.

[13:52] IO. SO THEY NEEDED 10

[13:54] POINTS TO ESTABLISH THE PUD. WE

[13:56] ARE RECOMMENDING 16 POINTS.

[13:59] THERE'S ALSO SOME RATIONALE AND

[14:00] THINKING BEHIND THOSE ADDITIONAL

[14:01] POINTS IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO

[14:04] BE SEEKING A SIGNED PLAN FOR

[14:06] THIS SITE TO ADVERTISE THE USE

[14:09] AND SO THOSE ADDITIONAL

[14:10] POINTS -- THOSE 6 ADDITIONAL

[14:11] POINTS, 5 WOULD BE NEEDED FOR

[14:13] SIGNS SO THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE

[14:15] THE POINTS. THAT STILL WOULD

[14:16] COME BACK TO ALL OF YOU TO SEE

[14:19] THE SIGNS BUT THE POINTS ARE

[14:20] ALREADY THERE AND I CAN JUST SAY

[14:21] FROM WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS ON

[14:23] EARTH YEARS FOR PLANNED UNIT

[14:24] DEVELOPMENTS -- IT'S MUCH EASIER

[14:25] TO PUT THE POINTS OR THE

[14:29] AMENITIES FROM THE START THEN

[14:31] TRYING TO RETROFIT AND PUT WATER

[14:36] MANAGEMENT AT THE TAIL END OR

[14:39] AMEND IT FOR SIGNS.

[14:40] SO THAT IS THE RATIONALE

[14:41] FOR HAVING MORE POINTS ON THE

[14:44] RECORD IF YOU WILL SAVING THOSE

[14:46] FOR THE FUTURE FOR SIGNS.